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== Query: semi-protection on User talk:2A02:A46A:194C:0:3535:788:EFF2:8E65 ==

Hello jpgordon. Back in December 2024 you ''indefinitely'' semi-protected [[User talk:2A02:A46A:194C:0:3535:788:EFF2:8E65]] after it was found that they had been using another IP to continue editing the page after TPA had been revoked. Isn't indefinite protection overkill, given that this is the talk page of an IP address talk page and not an indef-blocked account? Similar to how we almost never hand out indefinite blocks for IP addresses?

The [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A2A02%3AA46A%3A194C%3A0%3A0%3A0%3A0%3A0%2F64 block] on the /64 range of that IP address had expired in just a day or so after the semi-protection you placed, so I'm not sure that the protection needed to be ''that'' long. —&nbsp;[[User:AP 499D25|<span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP&nbsp;499D25</span>]] [[User talk:AP 499D25|<span style="color:#1A527D">(talk)</span>]] 02:07, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

:Yeah, good catch, I must have been pretty pissed off! I've unprotected it. Thanks! [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 02:20, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
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== RM for ctops question  ==

Hello, if you have time for a question, I tried Teahouse but didn’t really get anywhere. Are non-ec users allowed to participate in RMs for contentious topic pages? I know that ecr says "can use talk pages only to make edit requests", but [[RM:COMMENT]] says "all editors are welcome to contribute". 

I’m not sure if I should strike non-ec comments in ecr RMs. [[User:Mikewem|Mikewem]] ([[User talk:Mikewem|talk]]) 14:36, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:I really don't have any better answer than what you got. An RM is essentially an edit request; I'm not sure what precedent is in this regard. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 14:48, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
:{{tpw}}: I'd say non-EC users are not permitted to participate in RMs for pages covered by [[WP:ARBECR]]. The old standard, which is still present in community-authorized ECR regimes, is that "internal project discussions" were disallowed for non-EC users, and this explicitly included RMs. When ArbCom upgraded from that standard to the current ARBECR, it would be unusual to construe the language change as an decrease in restriction with regard to RMs. [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] ([[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers|contribs]]) 14:59, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
::So it’s probably true that non-ec can initiate a ctop RM, but cannot vote/comment on one? [[User:Mikewem|Mikewem]] ([[User talk:Mikewem|talk]]) 15:42, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't think a non-ec can initiate or comment in an RM. It's not unreasonable to consider an RM opening to be akin to an edit request, but edit requests are only for non-controversial changes or ones that have prior consensus. If we're going the RM route, it's expected that the move is potentially controversial. BTW, I'm assuming when you say ctop, you mean specifically topics that have ECR. Not all do. [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] ([[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers|contribs]]) 15:49, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
::::Yes, explicitly ecr covered topics. Good point about presumptively controversial move requests being akin to a (disallowed) controversial change request. Thanks so much for shedding some clarity on this, I was struggling with this one. [[User:Mikewem|Mikewem]] ([[User talk:Mikewem|talk]]) 16:02, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

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