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== Hello there. ==
Nice to see someone else contributing to railroad articles.  I assume you are the same user who was hitherto editing anonymously?  Welcome in any case, and hope you enjoy it here! [[User:Morven|&mdash;Morven]] 12:01, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

== Thank you! ==
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== Another well-deserved barnstar ==
[[Image:Railroadbarnstar 2.jpg|thumb|left|For your exceptional work improving railway articles [[User:Gwernol|Gwernol]] 14:23, 11 January 2008 (UTC)]]
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==List of LNER A1/A3 class locomotives==
I see you are linking the names of the locos to the racehorses they are named after. ''Flying Scotsman'' is currently linked to that loco' article. [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 22:33, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
:: I have changed it, so that the '4472' and '60103' link to [[LNER Class A3 4472 Flying Scotsman]], and ''Flying Scotsman'' links to [[Flying Scotsman (train)]], which is after all, what the loco was named after. [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 10:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I see you undid my addition. The title of the article is List on LNER A1/A3 class locomotives. As such, it should cover all A1/A3 locomotives, or be retitled! [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 22:25, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:: If the article name was just '''A1''', then I would agree with you. But as it is '''A1/A3''' it implies that it is only the  [[LNER Class A1/A3]] locomotives. Perhaps a "for..." link at the top for the [[LNER Thompson Class A1/1]] and the [[LNER Peppercorn Class A1]] would be an idea for those unfamiliar with the LNER. By the way, Tornado is already on the Peppercorn A1 page, at the bottom of the list. [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 22:39, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Iain, there is a dispute at [[LNER  Peppercorn Class A1]] over the structure of the article.  I have made extensive comment at [[talk:LNER Peppercorn Class A1#Article RFC]] relating to this.  It is my view namely that Tornado should be considered separately from the original 49 engines.  [[User:Biscuittin]] is in general agreement with me, but would appreciate it if you would read all the arguments from both sides and then add your input.  One editor in particular is refusing all compromise and insists on [[WP:OWN|owning the article]] and listing the replica with the original 49 engines.  I assume that since you have ''Locomotives at the Grouping'' by H.C. Casserley, you understand the importance of having accurate stock lists, i.e. the engines as owned by the railway companies.  Thanks for your help. [[User:Tony May|Tony May]] ([[User talk:Tony May|talk]]) 15:17, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== NP Edits ==
Howdy! Please stop moving the NP locomotive roster lists from the [[Northern Pacific Railway]] to a separate article. It was not my intention to set it up as a stand-alone article and I found its removal both counter-productive and ''discouraging''. After a brief survey of North American railroad pages on Wikipedia there seems to be plenty of precedence for maintaining a roster summary on the page of the specific road itself. I listed several in my most recent update, I am sure there are more. The ATSF seems to be the most extreme example -- if a roster ''and'' painting summary is available, NP steam and diesel rosters are small potatoes. JP3. (Small NP credential: past editor NPRHA's ''Mainstreeter''.) [[User:Qy0f|Qy0f]] ([[User talk:Qy0f|talk]]) 09:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

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== Thanks for your help ==
Re: the LT&SR locomotives. [[User:Tony May|Tony May]] ([[User talk:Tony May|talk]]) 23:47, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== LMS - W. V. Wood, Lord Stamp, Presidents, Chief Executives and Chairmen! ==
Hi Iain, just a quick note to say I have re-edited the notable people section of the LMS article to remove the bracketed "Chairman and Chief Executive" text after the title for the section on Presidents.  I have done this because I can find no source which actually refers to the President as the Chief Executive, but rather the President of the Executive. The source I am using (Whitehouse and St John Thomas, 2002) only indicates that the role of President was analagous to that of a modern day Chief Executive, so I included that in the text further up the article to provide a comparitor for the lay-reader.  Also, according to my source, W. V. Wood was never actually Chairman of the LMS: as far as I can tell, that post remained vacant after Lord Stamp's death, so while Stamp was President (from 1 Jan 1926) and Chairman (from 1927), holding both offices concurrently, Wood was only ever the former.  Of course if you have a source that gives different info, feel free to revert my edit.  I have clarified slightly by adding Stamp to the Chairman section, dated 1927 to 1941. :o)  [[User:ColourSarge|ColourSarge]] ([[User talk:ColourSarge|talk]]) 15:13, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

==K&ESR==
Re the 0-5-0, nice catch! Presumably a bigger variant of the [[0-3-0]]! [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 12:17, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

== CR NSU page ==
Thanks for the clean up of the page - it is looking a lot better.

I have removed the ref to the "U" series you added in. I cannot find anything to support the SULZER L series having a "U" variation. THere was the "L" (inline) either as a single bank or two parralel banks with a common output shaft, and the "V" series - common crank.

If there was a "U" series would be very interested in it.  [[User:Sulzer55|Sulzer55]] ([[User talk:Sulzer55|talk]]) 05:47, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

:See [[U engine]] article. [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 16:22, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
:: Thanks Ian - this page appears to describe "U" as a generic classification, rather than something specific to the Sulzer Traction Engines. "U" was not, as best as I can find, used to describe any of the Sulzer variants [[User:Sulzer55|Sulzer55]] ([[User talk:Sulzer55|talk]]) 00:51, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== SD40-2F ==
Iain, was the [[EMD SD40-2F]] a London only model?
Jeff. [[User:Wuhwuzdat|Wuhwuzdat]] ([[User talk:Wuhwuzdat|talk]]) 13:45, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
: Yes - 25 “Red Barns” for CP (c/n A4806–A4830) [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 13:58, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

==General Motors Diesel Division==
Just to let you know there is a lot of confusing information on the [[General Motors Diesel Division]] page.  GMDD was the Canadian operation of GM, building military vehicles, buses, and locomotives,  The US operations were GMC for buses, and EMD for railway locomotives. The page includes details on vehicles not built by GMDD and therefore is inaccurate.  GMDD was based in London, Ontario, with a plant later built in St.Eustache, Quebec to satisfy the 'buy Quebec' rule for buses in Quebec. [[User:Jsp3970|Jsp3970]] ([[User talk:Jsp3970|talk]]) 11:45, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

== [[Locomotives of the London, Midland and Scottish Railway]] ==
Thanks for adding the rest of the NSR fleet.  I was just settling down to do it myself and found to my delight that you'd beaten me to it. [[User:Nthep|NtheP]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 10:49, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

: No problem. I did wait 3 hours before I started — having been on the receiving end of an [[Help:Edit conflict|edit conflict]], I know infuriating it can be at the end of a long edit. [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 11:05, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

:: I know what you mean. :-) [[User:Nthep|NtheP]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 11:27, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== [[LNWR 2-2-2 3020 Cornwall]] ==
Thanks for adding the ''Cornwall'' image [[:File:HLB Lok 2.jpg]]. It has made [[LNWR 2-2-2 3020 Cornwall|the article]] look a lot better. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 16:22, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
: I found the image on commons with an incorrect description and in the “unidentified locomotives” category. So it’s more to luck than anything that the image and the article were linked.  I haven’t a clue how the image ended up in a German archive. [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 14:29, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== [[SECR K and SR K1 classes]], [[SECR N1 class]], [[SR U class]], [[SR U1 class]] and [[SR W class]] boilers.  ==
Hello, Iain. I've noticed you have Haresnape's book on Maunsell locomotives (I borrowed it a while back, but its been returned to the owner, and I didn't write any page reference numbers down, more fool me!), is it possible for you to clear up the air of mystery that surrounds the manufacture of the boilers used on the above locomotives? I believe the N1 and W class used the remaining N class boilers at Woolwich, so they could have been anything from NBL, Stephenson and the other manufacturer (can't remember it at this time). What I really want to know is where were the boilers used on the U, U1 and K/K1 classes manufactured? This would help clear up a bit of a mystery on these articles, as it has been assumed that all boilers were sub-contracted out to NBL. Any help (and reference page numbers) would be gratefully received. Regards, --[[User:Bulleid Pacific|Bulleid Pacific]] ([[User talk:Bulleid Pacific|talk]]) 08:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== [[FM OP800]]==
Iain, I have reverted your category changes to this locomotive article, as the equipment diagram [http://southern.railfan.net/images/archive/southern/dieblue/dpc.jpg here] ''(also referenced in the article)'' clearly shows the driving wheels to be on the rear truck. [[User:Wuhwuzdat|Wuhwuzdat]] ([[User talk:Wuhwuzdat|talk]]) 14:32, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

== Southern Railroad ==
Thanks for fixing names at [[National Register of Historic Places listings in Blount County, Tennessee]].  However, please note that this is a list of places under their official names as they're listed on the [[National Register of Historic Places]].  If you want to write an article about either of the properties designated as "Southern Railroad Bridge" or "Southern Railroad Freight Depot", please do so and we'll pipe the link, but the official NRHP name remains "Railroad".  If you think it's a major problem, you could always [http://www.nps.gov/nr/about.htm#contactus contact the Register people] to try to get it changed.  Don't think that I'm telling you this to get rid of you — the NRHP wikiproject has reported a large number of errors to the Register people and seen them fixed.  [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 13:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

== [[Narrow gauge railroads in the United States]] ==
Thank you for the very nicely done improvements to this article. [[User:Thewellman|Thewellman]] ([[User talk:Thewellman|talk]]) 19:21, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

:No problem. As I have managed to borrow a suitable reference book, I’ll see if I can expand the list. [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 20:57, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

==Hi==
Just in case you wondered what was going on - WP:OVERCAT - and including mother with child cats at WA steam locos - there are also some very weird bits of misinformation creeping in to some of the arts - trust my edits look ok - please let me know if I have done something that might look odd - cheers [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 01:29, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
The more I look at some stuff - I think some of the ''mother'' cats are a bit askew in australian railway categories - but will wait till i here from you first to elaborate on that [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 02:03, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
: I took the liberty and modified [[:Category:Western Australian steam locomotives]], making it a child of [[:Category:Western Australian locomotives]], and removing it from [[:Category:Rail transport in Western Australia]]. I also added a {{tl|Commons category}}. Otherwise everything looks fine. [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 12:50, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
OK I think I am having a serious think about ''defunct'', ''disused'' and ''closed'' in relation to railway lines and railway stations for the whole of WP - any thoughts on that one?  If there is one standard - the actual article is defunct - do you think that is the best? (I will have to change a lot of the ones i created in australia) Some idea of my way of thinking is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Good_Olfactory#Another_pedant_from_west_of_your_location  [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 12:56, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
: I prefer ''defunct'', as it has the broadest scope. It can cover stations closed to passengers where the line is still open for freight/goods; and lines that have been embargoed because the company wants to abandon it, but doesn't want to go through the formal close process (see [[Weymouth Quay railway station]]). [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 13:31, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you very much for that - if you and GO both say that - then I shall start a process of changing applying at CFD the cats that I have created - and others that dont conform - within the next week or so - I think the ''Disused'' bothers me so much I might even start before then :) [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 14:04, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Thank you for your help in cleaning the cats up as well - cheers [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 14:17, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
::::One of my big gripes across a whole lot of projects is the constant doubling up of mother and child cats - at South Australian locomotives - the cat ''Locos by railway ''and '' Locos of OZ ''- surely that is a case where the mother and child are being doubled up? [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 14:24, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:::The child categories of [[:Category:Locomotives of Australia]] are being used as both ''Locomotives by Railway'' and ''Locomotives by State'', with one being explicit, and the other implicit. The trouble is that for SA and VIC the former is explicit; and for the NSW, QLD, TAS and WA it is the latter which is explicit. Ideally, they should all be one or the other, not a mixture. There might be enough suppor to have cats for both, e.g. ''NSWGR locomotives and Locomotives'' of ''New South Wales''. Which brings me to another point – if the category is by state then should it be ''Locomotives of <state>'', rather than ''<state>ian locomotives''? [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 14:37, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:::You may be interested in my rather poorly expressed ideas at:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_January_6#Category:Western_Australian_locomotives - I am getting embarrassed at the way I expressed myself there - this does just touch what you have mentioned[[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 14:50, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

::See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Locomotives_by_railway for the standard practice [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 14:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Similarly at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Australian_Railway to me listing both the state and lines cats is another mother-child double up - what do you think? [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 14:28, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Well as the article is in [[:Category:Railway lines in Western Australia]], then it should NOT be in [[:Category:Rail transport in Western Australia]] as well, as the former is already a child of the latter. And ditto for South Australia. [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 14:43, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
::I agree totally - thank you so much for letting me sound this out - having had the conversation I will feel much more on safe ground pulling out many mothers from some very odd overcategorised items - [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 14:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

::Apologies for spring all this on to you - the server lag is so bad I am getting off - will check here again tommorow - cheers [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 15:04, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

== Goodbye ==
As it has become [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wuhwuzdat|painfully obvious]], my contributions are no longer welcome or needed here. In light of this situation, I am leaving this screwed up bureaucracy for the conceivable future. Good luck, my friend and keep fighting the good fight. '''''ILLEGITIMUS NON CARBORUNDUM''''' [[User:Wuhwuzdat|<span style="color:#21421E; font-family:Papyrus;">'''Wuh'''</span>]][[User talk:Wuhwuzdat|<span style="color:#CC7722; font-family:Papyrus;">'''Wuz'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Wuhwuzdat|<span style="color:#AA0022; font-family:Papyrus;">'''Dat'''</span>]] 02:41, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

== SW900RS model correction needed ==
Hi. I have been researching the British Columbia Electric Railway (BCER) / BC Hydro (BCH), now Southern Railway of BC (SRY). I have dug deep into its diesel motive power and have learned that all 12 of the EMD / GMD SW-type switchers they purchased are model SW900, not SW900RS, and that, in fact, there was never a SW900RS model produced by EMD / GMD. My sources for this info are Doug Cummings, a former BCER/BCH employee and retired locomotive broker, and EMD itself. I received an official corporate response recently, from two employees in their Service Parts Engineering Group, Jim Rusin and Yuk Mui.

The main [[SW900]] article is correct, because it does not mention an RS designation anywhere and it also correctly lists the info for BCER. However, a page linked to from that page, [[List of GMD Locomotives]] does have an RS category, and I was told that you were the editor that added the SW900RS entry.

I am happy to share via email the messages from the sources I listed above. Thanks. — [[User:Kent Sullivan|Kent Sullivan]] ([[User talk:Kent Sullivan|talk]]) 01:08, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

:The source would have been ''The Canadian Trackside Guide'' (1987 and 1990 editions). It might be that the editors of that publication are incorrect, as Pinkepank (1973) ''The Second Diesel Soptter’s Guide'' doesn’t mention the SW900RS at all. Feel free to merge the SW900RS model in the table into the SW900. — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 13:20, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

::Thanks. I am in touch with the authors of CTG as well and gave them the same research. I changed the table just now to remove SW900RS and increase the total of SW900 to 97. I also changed the date of the final production to 1969. — [[User:Kent Sullivan|Kent Sullivan]] ([[User talk:Kent Sullivan|talk]]) 06:37, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

== Tank engines ==
Hi Iain, I notice you have edited [[Exe locomotive]] and other loco pages to change the wikilink to [[2-6-2]]T to [[2-6-2T]], which is merely a redirtect to the original link. This seems inefficient and counter to Wikipedia guidelines (which suggest avoiding redirects where possible)- so perhaps you can explain the reason for doing this? Regards, [[User:Lynbarn|Lynbarn]] ([[User talk:Lynbarn|talk]]) 10:59, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:While it (and the other tank engine wheel arrangements) is (are) at present a redirect, someone may decide to create it (them) in the future. The 4-4-2T and 4-6-4T are the best examples, as they have little in common with their tender counterparts. Secondly: another editor has started creating categories for the tank engines, so while I’m amending one, I may as well amend the other. — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 11:07, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

::* Screw the "Wikipedia guidelines", they're wrong (that's if they even exist). 
:: Redirects are useful. One of the places they're particularly useful is in a situation like this, where we can hide the current redirect from 2-6-2T to 2-6-2. This allows us to write a vast number of articles ''as if'' 2-6-2T was already a separate article (which it does indeed warrant). Then when we get round to creating it in the future, we're already linked. In the meantime, redirects handle the linkage to the best article we can currently offer. Even better than this, it's quite likely that an article on 2-6-2 will already / soon will have a section within it on the tank variant, and we can make the redirect point to that section within the article, for very little new effort at all.
:: What would you suggest instead? Remove all the redirs to 2-6-2T, delete the redirect to save precious bytes? Then in a year or two, when we have even more articles on 2-6-2Ts which are poorly linked to 2-6-2, some poor fool could then spend ages going back and fixing them up all over again - rather than avoiding the whole lot by some pro-active thought like this up front. Is there a sudden crisis of server capacity? Have we run out of space for Pokemon and X factor applicants?
:: What I really ''love'' about WP is wasting a whole evening on an edit that really shouldn't have been necessary in the first place, then to be told that it's "counter to Wikipedia guidelines" by someone who doesn't even understand MediaWiki or what a redirect is ''for''. Thanks a bunch. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 11:49, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

:::That's a trifle harsh, Andy! I was only asking Iain why he was doing this! I agree that redirects are useful - I have used them myself, and if a future 2-6-2T article is intended, or 2-6-2T is a valid Whyte notation, then I can see the reason for it. It isn't as if I've be reversing any of the edits that are putting these redirects in place.  If it is a good idea, then I'll support it - I just wanted to know, that's all! I might even help with some of the changes, but please, less angst! Your comment: ''someone who doesn't even understand MediaWiki or what a redirect is for'' wasn't really called for - especially in a third party's talk space. What happened to ''assume good faith''? Regards, [[User:Lynbarn|Lynbarn]] ([[User talk:Lynbarn|talk]]) 12:10, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::: Harsh maybe, but I don't like my effort being dismissed as less important than a few processor cycles. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 15:10, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

==List of shipwrecks in 1947==
Hi, do you have a nationality for ''Belpamela''? If so, would you add the relevant flag? [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 18:44, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
:I didn't at the time of my edit, but in wandering around uboat.net, I found a [http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/ships/392.html photograph] of the ''Belpamela'' on the page of the sister-ship MV ''Belmoira''. Both were Norwegian. — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 10:06, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

==NMBS/SNCB class 40==
Thankyou for the message about the [[Palestine Railways H class]]'s 70 sister locomotives on NMBS/SNCB. As you have the published source about them, do you fancy writing a [[SNCB Class 40]] or [[NMBS Class 40]] article? As the Belgian and Palestinian Baldwins were consecutive in the War Department number series, 810–870 and 871–920, it would be nice to cover both classes and interlink the aricles. [[User:Motacilla|Motacilla]] ([[User talk:Motacilla|talk]]) 23:39, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
: I really don't have much more to add. The only bits in that source (about half a page, incidentally) that I left out was the identity of two early casulaties – one that didn't make it to the 5-digit renumbering, and one that was in the Russian zone of occupation at the end of WW2 and not repatriated. — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 13:24, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

== Sharp, Stewart & Co. ==
Hi, regarding edits such as {{diff|LT&SR 1 Class|prev|438754233|this}} - it's not necessary, see [[WP:NOTBROKEN]]. The only necessary changes following a page move are to the redirects, which have all been done. So long as the redirects are fixed, links within article pages should be left alone.

Also please note that {{diff|Sharp, Roberts and Company|prev|438728205|this}} is incorrect, because Sharp, Roberts and Company isn't "a region, state, principate's holding, city, city-state or such" - the previous template {{tlx|R from old name}} (which is an alias for {{tlx|R from former name}}) was correct. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#d30000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 15:53, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
: I just was trying to clear up after the move. As the the Redirect template, there are so many of them, it's hard to know which one to use. — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 16:16, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
::Sometimes linking an article to a redirect is intentional. Where the article that you want to link to has redirects from former or alternative names, it's generally best to use whichever redirect most closely matches the company name given in your source text. So, if I were writing about a particular class of locomotives, and my source book stated that they were "built by Sharp Roberts & Co.", I would link to <code><nowiki>[[Sharp, Roberts and Co.]]</nowiki></code>.
::There are two lists of redirect templates, but I don't think that either of them list every R template. There is [[Template:R template index]], which lists the main ones (unfortunately omitting {{tlx|R from former name}}), and groups them into categories with a short summary of when its use is appropriate. By contrast, [[Wikipedia:Template messages/Redirect pages]] lists the most, but is sorted alphabetically (not terribly intuitive), and its explanations are essentially the same as the template text. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#d30000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 16:40, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

==DYK for SR Battle of Britain class 21C151 Winston Churchill==
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== Talkback ==
{{talkback|Talk:GNR Stirling 4-2-2|GNR Classification}} --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#d30000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 15:29, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

==Huh?==
Since when does anyone in Australia use ''Cape gauge'' or does the tasmanian engines of ages ago belong to metric specifications?  Please show some trains project decision that I have obviously missed -  Australian usage has always used the term 'narrow gauge'' and never 'cape gauge' - cheers [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 10:32, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
:[edit comflict] The category [[:Category:Cape gauge railway locomotives]] is relatively new, having only been created in the last couple of days (and not by me). Since the creator only populated with 3-foot-6-inch gauge South African locomotives, I just added a few more locomotives of the same gauge of different countries. If you think the category would be better if renamed something like [[:Category:3ft 6in gauge locomotives]] then please feel free to take it to [[WP:CFD]]. — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 10:50, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
:: - Cape gauge is a problem - not doing anything for the moment - but hmmm, grrrr, etc etc [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 13:31, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
::: - Actually ''Cape gauge railways'' has the qualifier ''This is a category for all railways of Cape gauge (3' 6" / 1,067 mm) in southern Africa'' - it is '''not'''  saying Australia etc. [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 13:35, 17 August 2011 (UTC)



::So what happens to the category http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Narrow_gauge_railways_by_country ? [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 10:40, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
:::‘Narrow gauge’ is relative. In South Africa and Japan, 1067 mm is the standard; in India 1000 mm is “medium gauge” (there being 762 mm and 610 mm gauges). There is also a [[:Category:Track gauge by size]] by the way. — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 10:50, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
:::: I take your point on that - I am wondering whether an inter-country comparison article is required to explain it all away :(  13:31, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
:::::Stumbled across this - I'd argue that 'Narrow gauge' isn't relative at all. Standard gauge is 4' 8.5"; anything less is 'narrow gauge', anything more is 'broad gauge', Q.E.D. - [[User:The Bushranger|The Bushranger]] <sub>[[User talk:The Bushranger|<span style="color:maroon;">One ping only</span>]]</sub> 17:20, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

== Whyte links ==
Hi - is there any reason why you're replaced a number of {{tl|whyte}} templates with direct links to the wheel arrangements? The advantage of using the template is that it produces two links, one to the wheel arrangement and one to indicate the meening of the suffix (e.g. {{whyte|0-4-2|ST}}). Replacing this with [[0-4-2ST]] simply gives a redirect to the first link.&mdash;An&nbsp;[[User:Optimist on the run|<span style="color:#A00000">'''&nbsp;optimist'''</span>]]&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;''[[User Talk:Optimist on the run|run]]!'' 11:40, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
: I feel that the template has several problems:
:* It takes longer to type <code><nowiki>{{White|4-6-2}}</nowiki></code> than to type <code><nowiki>[[4-6-2]]</nowiki></code>;
:* It puts a space between the wheel arrangement and the tank code; something I have never seen in print and could be construed as [[WP:OR|original research]]. 
:* It dates from before the creation of the tank engine redirects (<code><nowiki>[[4-6-2T]]</nowiki></code> and others). Once the tank engine wheel arrangements are forked out of the tender locomotive articles, Template:Whyte becomes either broken, a maintenance nightmare, or both.
:* Some of the wheel arrangement articles have a tank engine sections, e.g. [[4-6-2T]], and the redirect is to that section.

:Yes I know the second point can be fixed, but then hint that there are two different links is lost. Overall I can't see the need for the template and I was thinking of taking it to [[WP:TFD]].
:Apologies for late reply, been AFK for a few days. — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 10:11, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

::To reply to your comments:
::*The length of code is more or less irrelevant - the text should be designed for readers, not editors.
::*As you acknowledge, the second point can be fixed, though the space was discussed at the time (see [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains/Archive: 2008, 2#Whyte notation template]]). Possibly it's non-standard, but I don't see how it's OR.
::*The template can be modified to link to (e.g.) [[0-6-0T]] when and if the content is forked. I can make changes so that in the meantime, it links to the anchor.
::*The template had other advantages, for example, {{tlx|Whyte|4-4-2}} links directly to the relevant article rather than the dab page [[4-4-2]]. Currently a lot of articles that point here, that need disambiguating. Also as I stated above, it also provides a link for what the suffix means. Feel free to nominate it for TfD if you like, but IMO it has more benefits than otherwise, and I will replace it in articles where I feel it necessary.&mdash;An&nbsp;[[User:Optimist on the run|<span style="color:#A00000">'''&nbsp;optimist'''</span>]]&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;''[[User Talk:Optimist on the run|run]]!'' 07:39, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

:::Follow-up - I've recoded the template so that (for example) {{tlx|Whyte|4-6-2|T}} now links directly to [[4-6-2T]], so that future content splitting will not cause problems.&mdash;An&nbsp;[[User:Optimist on the run|<span style="color:#A00000">'''&nbsp;optimist'''</span>]]&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;''[[User Talk:Optimist on the run|run]]!'' 09:19, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

== Boards of Directors ==
Hi, re the Boards of Directors that you have been adding to railway company articles - could you please state their period of office, since some of these companies existed for several decades, and it's unlikely that any one individual served continuously. Also please give the source of your information per [[WP:V]]. Thanks. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#d30000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 17:09, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
: I have added a source, but its hard to add dates unless you have access to a full set of ''Bradshaw’s'', something that even the British Library doesn’t have (according to their online catalogue). — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 19:29, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
::Surely there's something in books dealing with the specific railways. For example, in [[George Dow]]'s trilogy on the MS&LR/GCR, he lists the Directors and their periods of office in the appendices at the back of each volume, and in the main text gives the dates of election and reason for leaving office. If all you have is the 1905 list, it would be best to explicitly state in the articles that these were the directors in 1905, so as not to give the impression that they were also directors in, say, 1855. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#d30000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 13:52, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

== hlist in navboxes ==
Hi, re {{diff|Template:British Rail Locomotives|prev|462319597|your edit}} to [[Template:British Rail Locomotives]] - I've {{diff|Template:British Rail Locomotives|prev|462396257|finished it off}}. You had left some {{tag|div}} pairs in place, and had omitted to convert the {{para|below}} section. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#d30000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 11:46, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
: Thanks for that. Missing the {{tag|div}} was my error; not doing the {{para|below}} section was intentional, as during a conversion of another Navbox that I did, the preview showed it to have gone pear-shaped, so I reverted that change, and left that section as-is since then. — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 12:07, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
::Ah, then you probably didn't spot that the {{para|below}} ignores {{para|listclass}} - when there's a bulleted list in {{para|below}}, you need to add {{para|belowclass|hlist}} --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#d30000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 15:34, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
::: I should have guessed that {{para|belowclass|hlist}} would have solved it. Again, thank you. — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 19:21, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

== Rhodesian locomotives ==
Great to see someone is making a start on the RR locomotives! André Kritzinger 18:13, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
:Thank you. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of information on Rhodesian locomotives — so once I have translated the 20th class article from de.WP, I'll be down to creating stubs. Regards — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 12:25, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
:PS — Thanks for all the hard work you have done on South African locomotives.

== R&W Hawthorn ==
Hi, re {{diff|NER 38 Class|prev|526033551|this edit}}: the merger of R. & W. Hawthorn with A. Leslie & Co. was in 1884; although I don't have the actual date. The source that I used when I added the building information definitely shows "R. & W. Hawthorn & Co." It's possible that the merger occurred before the first loco was delivered, but I prefer to go with what is actually stated by the source and not to adjust company names. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 17:31, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
:I did have second thoughts about making the change – but Nock states “Hawthorn, Leslie & Co.” If your source differs, we may have to put a ‘sources differ’ note on that page. Incidentally, the [[R and W Hawthorn]] page states the merger was in 1880; the [[Hawthorn Leslie and Company]] page states 1886. The former is unreferenced, the latter is referenced by a dead link. I think more research (and referencing) is required; so feel free to revert. Regards, [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 21:21, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
::I should have given my source for the 1884 amalgamation: it's 
::*{{cite book |last=Lowe |first=James W. |title=British Steam Locomotive Builders |year=1989 |origyear=1975 |publisher=Guild Publishing |id=CN8274 |page=313 }}
::It's certain that the amalgamation had happened by 30 July 1889 - see {{London Gazette |issue=25959 |startpage=4109 |date=30 July 1889 }} (top of first column) and {{London Gazette |issue=25967 |startpage=4634 |date=23 August 1889 }} (bottom of first column).
::Anyway, I do have Nock (two copies: one is the 1954 original (in hardback), the other is the 1974 paperback reprint), and he does state "Hawthorn, Leslie & Co.", but that is only one of four books which I have checked that gives the post-amalgamation name. One source, so far not mentioned but somewhat older than the others, is
::*{{cite book |last=Ahrons |first=E.L. |authorlink=E.L. Ahrons |title=The British Steam Railway Locomotive 1825-1925 |year=1987 |origyear=1927 |publisher=Bracken Books |location=London |isbn=1-85170-103-6 |page=269 }}
::which states "R. and W. Hawthorn", and so by omitting any mention of Leslie, this agrees with Baxter and with Boddy et al. Could it be that the amalgamation occurred whilst Hawthorns were building these locos, with the result that some were delivered under one builder's name, the rest under the other? --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 22:23, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
:::It’s quite possible. I do have a note of two locomotives supplied by R&W Hawthorn to Alexandra (Newport & South Wales) Docks & Railway in February and March 1884 (Works nos. 1976 and 1977; A(N&SW)D&R 0-6-0ST nos. 13 and 12). Not sure where I made a note from, but if you have the RCTS books on GWR locos, it should be in one of them. Regards, [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 09:30, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
::::*{{cite book |last1=Davies |first1=F.K. |last2=Firth |first2=J.M. |last3=Lucking |first3=J.H. |last4=Thomas |first4=R.E. |last5=Allcock |first5=N.J. |last6=Sterndale |first6=A.C. |last7=Barrie |first7=D.S.M. |last8=Reed |first8=P.J.T. |last9=Mountford |first9=E.R. |editor-last=White |editor-first=D.E. |title=The Locomotives of the Great Western Railway, part ten: Absorbed Engines, 1922-1947 |year=1966 |month=April |publisher=[[Railway Correspondence and Travel Society|RCTS]] |ref=harv }}
::::AD nos. 12 & 13 (GWR 664/5) were purchased new from R. & W. Hawthorn & Co. (Nos. 1977/6) in 1884 {{harv|Davies|Firth|Lucking|Thomas|1966|p=K12}}; AD nos. 16 & 17 were from Hawthorn, Leslie & Co. (Nos. 2146/7) in 1889 {{harv|Davies|Firth|Lucking|Thomas|1966|p=K13}}. No months are given for any of these. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 17:21, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

== [[LMS Stanier Class 5 4-6-0 44767]] / [[LMS Stanier Class 5 4-6-0 4806]] ==
Does one of these need a rename, and if so, which one is it?  I'm assuming the first as "LMS 4767", but is there any clear guidance around on this, and does it depend on build dates?  I can see some argument to listing all of them, BR-built too, under the consistent BR numbers. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 12:50, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
:My preferred name is the first identity:– 4806 was built at Derby in July 1944, therefore LMS number is appropriate. Nº 4767 was built at Crewe in December 1947; I would like to see it moved, but others might argue that its LMS service was insignificant, and the BR number better known ([[WP:COMMONNAME]]). To which I would argue that '''BR Stanier Class 5 4-6-0 44767''' would be a better name, as the present one is a mongrel. — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 13:08, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
:: I think "service" is indeed irrelevant. "Did it ever carry the LMS 4-digit number?" should be enough, whether it earned a day's revenue or not. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 20:58, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

And for that matter, [[Category talk:Individual locomotives#Sub-cat to Category:Individual preserved locomotives?]]  [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 12:54, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
:Your idea has some merit – I sometimes look at [[:Category:Individual locomotives]] and wonder which ones have been scrapped. — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 13:08, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
::I have heard it said that articles about individual preserved locomotives should reflect the present-day identity. That has its merits; but there are some locos which get a fresh repaint every two years, which sometimes goes together with a change of identity. I don't think frequent article moves is a good thing. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 13:49, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
:::I agree – continually renaming articles is counter-productive. Better to (1) keep the article under a name consistent with other locomotives (I prefer the first number) and (2) use redirects to catch people looking for other identities. —  [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 14:05, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

== Thanks ==
Thanks for adding images to [[Steamtown, U.S.A.]]. --[[User:Ishtar456|Ishtar456]] ([[User talk:Ishtar456|talk]]) 23:33, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

== [[Iain Bell]] ==
Do you know the composer [[Iain Bell]] ? --[[User:Piers Gaveston|Piers Gaveston]] ([[User talk:Piers Gaveston|talk]]) 00:20, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:No (not me!), and no relation (at least that I know of). I had never heard of him, until you pointed to the article. Thanks and regards, — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 09:39, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

== Apparent vandalism ==
Hello Ian,<br>Re [[Forty-and-eights]]. A certain twit [[User:Cak22]] [[User talk:Cak22]] has twice; if not three times, turned the article into a redirect. I only realized this when I checked the revision history after I corrected the redirect. So I felt justified to turn it back to where you had it. [[User:Peter Horn|Peter Horn]] [[User talk:Peter Horn|User talk]] 19:07, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
:I havn’t been that active on WP, so I missed that change; thank you for catching that. I’ve updated the talk page – the projects were classed as Redirects.
:The [[Forty-and-eights]] and [[Merci Train]] need some work: the former needs references and both need "Main article" links to each other.
:Regards, — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 10:01, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

== Nasmyth, Gaskell and Company:  ==

Are we going to be given a reference- I can't sleep waiting in anticipation. -- <span class="vcard"><span class="fn nickname">[[User:ClemRutter|Clem Rutter]]</span> ([[User talk:ClemRutter|talk]])</span> 11:56, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
:Yes, I will be adding references. — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 12:03, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

== List of Chemins de Fer de l'État locomotives ==

Hello,
 
I added two new images of 030 C 815 and 140 C 231. Cheers, [[User:Krest12|Krest12]] ([[User talk:Krest12|talk]]) 18:44, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

: Thanks for finding one of 030.C.815. — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 09:58, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

== Quote marks ==

Hi, I just noticed that in {{diff|SR V Schools class|prev|605593485|this edit}}, you altered {{para|name|SR V "Schools" class}} (with straight quotes) to {{para|name|SR V “Schools” class}} (with curly quotes). Please don't do that, per [[MOS:QUOTEMARKS]]. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 18:57, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

== [[Template:Convert/TonCwt to t]] ==

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==ISBN templates==
Hello. I noticed you had created a template [[Template:Rowledge-Engines of the LMS]] - I'm not sure on the usage of this - if this is a standard method could you add a note to [[Wikipedia:ISBN]] on the creation of these things. Not sure if this is the same as [[Template:Cite isbn]] which alos creates a cire book link. Thanks.
:It's a quick, and consistent way to add references to relevant articles. See the explanation at the top of [[:Category:Rail transport book citation templates]] — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 13:34, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
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== Template:0-8047-1731-1 ==

If it's all right by you I was going to merge {{t1|0-8047-1731-1}} with {{t1|Hilton Narrow Gauge}}; per [https://www.worldcat.org/title/american-narrow-gauge-railroads/oclc/492981624] they appear to be the same book, with the same publication year and the same number of pages. Best, [[User:Mackensen|Mackensen]] [[User_talk:Mackensen|(talk)]] 04:36, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
:The only problem I forsee is needing to accomodate more than one ISBN – the one I created was for the hardback edition on acid-free paper – I don’t know how many other editions have been released and what differentiates them. Regards — [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 10:23, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
::{{tps}} the ISBN that you give in a ref should be that of the edition which you actually consulted. No others are necessary. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 20:15, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
:::(Love that there's a template for that) I think so long as the content and page numbers correspond the ISBNs are fungible. Where they potentially aren't I've seen different versions of the template created. Near as I can tell these two are the same for reference purposes. [[User:Mackensen|Mackensen]] [[User_talk:Mackensen|(talk)]] 21:31, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
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Hi, I saw you added a lot of information to [[Locomotives_of_the_Southern_Railway#Joseph_Hamilton_Beattie_.281850.E2.80.931871.29]] back in 2011. Do you happen to know where you got this information from? I'm trying to match up this information with a serialized article in "Locomotive, Railway Carriage and Wagon Review" and finding that some of the information on the page is conflicting or incorrect. (e.g. Eagle- and Falcon-class, the magazine combines and describes as identical apart from driving wheel diameter; and for the listed Gem-class the magazine states wheel configuration 0-6-0 for no. 57-59 as opposed to the 2-4-0 listed on the page). Any light you can shed would be appreciated. —[[User:Hawke666|Hawke666]] ([[User talk:Hawke666|talk]])  <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 20:54, 15 September 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Hopefully the info came from
:*{{cite book |last=Bradley |first=D.L. |title=Locomotives of the L.S.W.R.: Part 1 |year=1965 |publisher=[[Railway Correspondence and Travel Society|RCTS]] |location=Kenilworth |isbn=0-901115-08-8 }}
:which is generally reliable, and not from
:*{{cite book |last=Burtt |first=F. |editor-last=Morris |editor-first=O.J. |title=LSWR Locomotives: A Survey 1873-1922 |date=March 1949 |publisher=[[Ian Allan Publishing|Ian Allan]] |location=London |id=21/230/50/349 }}
:which has a number of problems. Bradley later produced a multi-volume set that was even better than his 1960s pair. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 22:51, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
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== MGWR Class D ==

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Thanks for creating the Category:Midland Great Western Railway locomotives.  I have enhanced the [[MGWR Class 7]] article to emphasise the source Shepherd on p123+p131 specifically states R&W Hawthorn, Leith.  My sprint on wikipedia trains and MGWR locomotive articles is essentially over but I may do tweaks and may do a little on the Dublin Sligo line at some point.[[User:Djm-leighpark|Djm-leighpark]] ([[User talk:Djm-leighpark|talk]]) 17:07, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

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== Merger of List of Indian locomotives with locomotives of India==
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The reason that I created ''List of Indian locomotives'' is to make sure that both a list type and descriptive type article exists. I initially started List of Indian locomotives in the locomotive india but it wouldn't fit in. So what should I do ?--[[User:Hdmanohar|Hdmanohar]] ([[User talk:Hdmanohar|talk]]) 05:14, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
:I tagged it for merge, since it looked like a duplication; but on reflection [[Locomotives of India]] is a large article (it's a large subject) and is a bit of mess. You could re-write it, so that is is just an overview article with several “Main article:” links (use {{tlx|Main}}) that point to other (new) articles, such as “List of diesel locomotives of India”, “List of electric locomotives of India”, “List of steam locomotives of India”. As [[List of Indian locomotives]] only list diesel locomotives, you could rename it and then move the electric and steam locomotives to articles of their own.
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== List of railway stations in Colombia ==

Hi Iain - I wasn't aware that this article existed until you tagged its talk page with the Colombia WikiProject a few days ago. I've lived in Bogota for over a decade now, and although trains aren't really my thing, I'm familiar enough with the local transport system and the stations, and I'm thinking this list article should be deleted. It basically seems to consist of a list of stations that operated in Bogota and its surroundings 67 years ago (about half of which no longer exist), which is just a duplicate of the list at [[Bogota Savannah Railway]]. The remainder of the article is pretty vague, mentioning some other towns and departments (the equivalent of an English county) without being very specific about actual stations.

The article is correct in saying that there are currently no passenger services at all in Colombia, and hence none of these stations are in use for services other than goods and coal transport, save for five stops on the Bogota Northern Line (Ferrocarril del Norte) which are used for a tourist train running at weekends from Bogotá to the salt cathedral at Zipaquirá. So I'm not sure what this list is aiming for... if it's stations currently used for passengers, that's zero... if it's a list of all the station buildings in the country, well, there are/were hundreds of them, not just in Bogota and its surroundings, and most of the buildings still exist. But most of the track throughout the country has been removed, so most of these buildings exist without any rail track near them, and some have been converted into museums, municipal buildings or other uses. So is there any point in listing railway stations that have not functioned as such for decades, and many of which are abandoned and delapidated?

As I said, all the relevant information in this list article is already in either the Bogota Savannah Railway article, or the [[Rail transport in Colombia]] article, so I don't see much reason for this separate article to exist. But as I'm not a rail enthusiast, I thought I'd run it by you first and see what you think. The Bogota Savannah article is certainly worth keeping and expanding as a historical article, and three of its lines still have the existing track: the Western, Northern and Northeastern lines, and in fact the first two lines are going to be renovated over the next decade for the planned [[RegioTram]] light railways, so they are still very relevant. [[User:Richard3120|Richard3120]] ([[User talk:Richard3120|talk]]) 02:36, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

:I only discovered it while trying to reduce the assessment backlog on WikiProject Trains (it was listed as a stub!). I have no emotional attachment to the article, so feel free to be bold. You could rename it as "List of former railway stations in Colombia" and expand it, or you want to mark it up as a Proposed deletion, I won't mind. – [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 11:11, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
::Thanks – I know there are many other "List of railway stations in xxxx" articles on Wikipedia, but the key is that those are all in countries with operating rail networks and working stations carrying passengers... I'm not convinced of the usefulness of a list of repurposed, abandoned and derelict railway stations, and I can't see where I would find a list of every station that ever existed in Colombia.
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: Fixed. Thanks for finding my error – its a pity I didn't notice it back in 2016 when I created the page! – [[User:Iain Bell|Iain Bell]] ([[User talk:Iain Bell#top|talk]]) 20:14, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
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