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Hello, [[Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers|welcome]] to Wikipedia. I noticed your question at [[Wikipedia talk:Talk page]]. There is already a page about the band at [[The United States Of America (band)]]. See [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation]] for more info on what to do when page titles clash. 

If you have any questions, you can ask at the [[Wikipedia:help desk|help desk]] or on [[User talk:Angela|my talk page]]. Two useful tips are that you can sign your name using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) and you can preview your changes before you save using the [[Wikipedia:show preview|show preview]] button. You can regularly find new tips on the [[Wikipedia:Community Portal|Community Portal]]. I look forward to reading your [[Wikipedia:How to write a great article|great articles]] and I hope you enjoy editing here and being a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedians|Wikipedian]]. :) [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 02:11, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hi Henry, if you look at [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=The_United_States_Of_America&action=history the history of the original page], you'll see that [[User:Jengod|Jengod]] [[Wikipedia:How to rename (move) a page|moved]] it on June 3. The reason it hasn't yet appeared in Google is probably because not many places [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=The_United_States_Of_America_%28band%29 link to it] so Google hasn't has a chance to find it yet (see [[Wikipedia:External search engines]]). Try to find some pages to link it to, and it will appear in Google. [[List of bands]] is a good place to start. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 13:40, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hi, if you want to see [[Art]] improved, why not vote for it here: [[Wikipedia:Article of the week]]. [[User:Bmills|Bmills]] 12:18, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

== Solaris band ==

I deleted the article because it was [[WP:PROD|proposed for deletion]] (prod) on June 30 as other editors felt it did not meet the [[WP:N|notability requirement]] for [[WP:MUSIC|musicians]]. Per the procedure for prod, if it is left unchallenged (the prod tag is not removed) for 5 days, the article can be deleted without further discussion.

Also, the article does not assert why it is notable, or what albums they have released, which also contributed to my deciding to delete it. --[[User:Soumyasch|soum]] <sup>[[User talk:Soumyasch|talk]]</sup> 06:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at [[Draft:John David Ebert]]. Thanks! [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 15:45, 27 May 2018 (UTC) </div>

== Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:John David Ebert|John David Ebert]] (May 27) ==
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{{divbox|blue|3=The subject may be a "neglected writer", but it is not the job of Wikipedia to draw attention to him, only to summarize what [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] have written.  

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== [[Draft:John David Ebert]] ==

Here are a few more comments about your draft on John David Ebert.  He may indeed be a neglected writer, but it isn't the job of Wikipedia to provide him with primary publicity.  If other critics or [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] have stated that he is more important than is recognized, then Wikipedia can include an article on him.  Your draft has no references, and so does not establish notability, and it is even more important for you to establish notability than usual.  There have been two deletion discussions, and the more recent one, in 2014, deleted the article.  I am not sure that was the right decision, but it isn't my job as a reviewer to second-guess a deletion discussion, but only to take its conclusion into account and review the draft considering the history.  Since you didn't provide references, I don't even have a real choice.  We can discuss further on the draft talk page, [[Draft talk:John David Ebert]], or we can ask the advice of other experienced editors at [[WP:TEA|the Teahouse]].  I would be interested in seeing an improved draft on Ebert if you have reliable sources, in particular commenting on his influence on other writers.  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 18:48, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi! [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] I'm a bit of a noob with communicating inside Wikipedia. so forgive my uselessness that way. I responded to the Teahouse thing on Ebert. I will acquire references to his work over the next few weeks and edit the article. Hopefully that will make it more acceptable. I'm really not into the intricacies of wikipedia so I don't really know much about previous articles on him beyond what I could scrape and re-assemble-rewrite-reconfigure. Your points are fair (within the context of contemporary wikipedia as I have come to understand it) so I will do what I can to make the article more up to snuff with references etc. The reason why I want this article up there is that I think he's an interesting thinker. I don't agree with most of what he says, but I think he has a number of decent insights, and he's published tons of books. I think this is exactly the kind of person who *should* have an article on wikipedia.