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== What is a 'reliable source' ? ==

What makes a source reliable, and another source unreliable, and given that I disproved your so called reliable sources which claim GR was experimentally verified, and shown all those experiments were completelly fucked up by idiots who have no clue about basic refraction physics, doesnt that show that they are completely unreliable ? [[User:Marvas85|Marvas85]] ([[User talk:Marvas85|talk]]) 00:16, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

: See [[wp:reliable sources]].
: You probably need to stick to your blog for this. WIkipedia is not a publisher of original research. And please mind your language. Edit summaries such as [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Criticism_of_the_theory_of_relativity&diff=prev&oldid=1213426029 "FUCK YOU and your stupid bots/moderators that delete the proof that GR is WRONG"] are utterly unacceptable here. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 00:20, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
::So no criticism of any theory is accepted by wikipedia, despite using widely known science and formulas ? I did not invent v=c/n, nor f=v/lambda. I just applied them to the Pound and Rebka experiment, and got a blueshift/redshift from this formulas. [[User:Marvas85|Marvas85]] ([[User talk:Marvas85|talk]]) 09:05, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
::Even on the wikipedia article on refraction it says that refraction changes the wavelength. So in Pound-Rebka experiment if they use helium and air guess what happens ? They change the wavelength from refraction. And also by the Compton scattering which redshifts the gammaray. And no, I did not invent Compton effect either. Look it up, its on your wikipedia page too. [[User:Marvas85|Marvas85]] ([[User talk:Marvas85|talk]]) 09:08, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
::: {{rto|Marvas85}} Assuming you are referring to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gravitational_redshift&diff=next&oldid=1221865309 this revert], resulting in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMarvas85&diff=1221880487&oldid=1213426160 this warning] by user {{u|Johnjbarton}}, no, criticism of any theory by any editor is ''not'' accepted by Wikipedia. Wikipedia does not criticise. Wikipedia reports what is found in the literature, and which is sufficiently notable to be quoted by sufficiently many others. That is what encyclopedias are designed for. If some criticism of some theory is widely published in the established literature, ''then'' Wikipedia can mention that as a ''fact'', not as ''criticism by a contributor''. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 13:55, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

== An edit I wish to make ==

@[[User:DVdm|DVdm]]

This is a paragraph I wish to make to add to the [[Daboia palaestinae|Daboia Paelestinae]] page:

"The [[LD50]] of this viper's venom is 0.34mg/kg.<ref>{{Cite journal |last=Senji Laxme |first=R. R. |last2=Khochare |first2=Suyog |last3=Attarde |first3=Saurabh |last4=Kaur |first4=Navneet |last5=Jaikumar |first5=Priyanka |last6=Shaikh |first6=Naeem Yusuf |last7=Aharoni |first7=Reuven |last8=Primor |first8=Naftali |last9=Hawlena |first9=Dror |last10=Moran |first10=Yehu |last11=Sunagar |first11=Kartik |date=2022 |title=The Middle Eastern Cousin: Comparative Venomics of Daboia palaestinae and Daboia russelii |url=https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6651/14/11/725 |journal=Toxins |language=en |volume=14 |issue=11 |pages=725 |doi=10.3390/toxins14110725 |issn=2072-6651}}</ref> The mortality rate of people who were bitten is 0.5% to 2%.<ref name=":0">{{Cite journal |last=Momic |first=Tatjana |last2=Arlinghaus |first2=Franziska T. |last3=Arien-Zakay |first3=Hadar |last4=Katzhendler |first4=Jeoshua |last5=Eble |first5=Johannes A. |last6=Marcinkiewicz |first6=Cezary |last7=Lazarovici |first7=Philip |date=2011-11-14 |title=Pharmacological Aspects of Vipera xantina palestinae Venom |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3237004/ |journal=Toxins |volume=3 |issue=11 |pages=1420–1432 |doi= |issn=2072-6651 |pmc=3237004 |pmid=22174978}}</ref> The venom includes at least four families of pharmacologically active compounds: (i) [[Neurotoxin|neurotoxins]]; (ii) [[Hemorrhagin|hemorrhagins]]; (iii) [[angioneurin]] growth factors; and (iv) different types of [[integrin]] inhibitors.<ref name=":0" />"

I'm informing you ahead of time to make sure you don't jump the gun and try to block me without warning based on a mistaken assumption that this is original research. The issues that might confuse you are (a) that the LD50 is not mentioned in abstract of the first paper. However it appears in the body of the article in a graph. (b) The name of the snake used in the second article is not Daboia but one of the other scientific names of this snake (which appears in the synonyms tab of the [[Daboia palaestinae|Daboia Paelestinae]] page). While you might think that concluding that the paper talks about the same snake as the wikipedia entry is synthesis and therefore original research, in fact it isn't.

Please respond if you agree or not.
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[[User:Vegan416|Vegan416]] ([[User talk:Vegan416|talk]]) 09:13, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

: Read [[wp:SYNTHESIS]] and draw your own conclusion. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 09:50, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:DVdm|DVdm]]
::# I read the relevant policy pages many times. I know well that NONE of what I did here is original research according to the policy pages. As regarding this particular case let me quote the following from [[Wikipedia:These are not original research|"These are not original research" page]]: "Identifying synonymous terms, and collecting related information under a common heading is also part of writing an encyclopedia. Reliable sources do not always use consistent terminology, and it is sometimes necessary to determine when two sources are calling the same thing by different names. This does not require a third source to state this explicitly, as long as the conclusion is obvious from the context of the sources."
::# But I still feel I need to get your approval because the combined effect of the following facts: a. You seem to have an extreme interpretation of what is original research, much more strict than the policy pages. b. You have threatened to block me without warning if I'll make again what YOU think is original research. c. The incident of the Brooklyn papyrus show that you are not beyond jumping the gun.
::# Of course I don't know if you really have the power to block me without warning. I see that you have been editor for many years and have made an impressive number of edits, but I don't know if you have any administrative powers in wikipedia. Still, because it is better to be safe than sorry I'm afraid I'll have to continue to check edits with you beforehand, at least until you walkback on your threat.
::[[User:Vegan416|Vegan416]] ([[User talk:Vegan416|talk]]) 13:42, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

==Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman==
My removal of content was repeatedly explained, and therefore I consider your revert with the assertion that it was not to be in bad faith. [[Special:Contributions/2601:642:4600:D3B0:56C:3F16:53EF:5265|2601:642:4600:D3B0:56C:3F16:53EF:5265]] ([[User talk:2601:642:4600:D3B0:56C:3F16:53EF:5265|talk]]) 16:54, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

:After the first time that your edit was reverted ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Surely_You%27re_Joking%2C_Mr._Feynman%21&diff=1216628951&oldid=1216609553]), you should have gone to the talk page — see [[wp:BRD]],  [[wp:CONSENSUS]] and [[wp:NOCONSENSUS]]. Re-reverting it amounts to edit warring. It's good that you went there after the second revert ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Surely_You%27re_Joking,_Mr._Feynman!&diff=prev&oldid=1216730146]). There you should find the explanation why the content belongs ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASurely_You%27re_Joking%2C_Mr._Feynman%21&diff=1216730711&oldid=1216730326]). - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 17:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

== Spacetime and squared interval ==

About your message at [[User talk:2A01:CB10:85B:9D00:487D:6A2A:2128:BC24#April 2024]].

On [[Spacetime]], I read this after the paragraph where I made change:
:The squared interval <math>\Delta s^2</math> is a measure of separation between events A and B that are time separated and in addition space separated either because there are two separate objects undergoing events, or because a single object in space is moving inertially between its events.

So, why is <math>\Delta s^2</math> not the squared spacetime interval?

On the French Wikipedia (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intervalle_d%27espace-temps), we read:

: Le ''carré'' de l’'''intervalle d'espace-temps''' (translation: squared spacetime interval)

Moreover, on https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intervalle_d%27espace-temps#Expression_en_relativit%C3%A9_restreinte, we read:

: Dans la géométrie de l'espace-temps de la [[fr:relativité restreinte]], on écrit le « carré de l'intervalle d'espace-temps », noté <math>\Delta s^2</math>, entre deux événements A et B de coordonnées (<math>t_\text{A}, x_\text{A}, y_\text{A}, z_\text{A}</math>) et (<math>t_\text{B}, x_\text{B}, y_\text{B}, z_\text{B}</math>) dans un espace-temps à quatre dimensions (une de temps, soit ''t'', et trois d'espace) sous la forme
:<math>(\Delta s)^2 = \, c^2(t_\text{B} - t_\text{A})^2 - (x_\text{B}-x_\text{A})^2 - (y_\text{B}-y_\text{A})^2 - (z_\text{B}-z_\text{A})^2</math>

(Translation:) In spacetime geometry of special relativity, we write the '''squared spacetime interval''', noted <math>\Delta s^2</math>...

You say: '''Note''': check the cited source, where the interval is defined as a square.

Where is the '''cited source'''? If it's the ref 32 '''D'Inverno, Ray (1992). ''Introducing Einstein's Relativity''. New York: Oxford University Press.''', I don't have access to it.

Moreover: still on [[Spacetime]], we read:
: In a different inertial frame, say with coordinates <math>(t',x',y',z')</math>, '''the spacetime interval''' <math>ds'</math> can be written in a same form as above.

So the spacetime interval is <math>ds</math> or <math>ds^2</math>?

I can understand different convention on different article on Wikipedia on different language. But not different convention on the SAME article.

In short:
* what is the name of <math>s</math>?
* what is the name of <math>ds</math>?
* what is the name of <math>ds^2</math>?

On French Wikipedia ([[fr:Intervalle_d%27espace-temps#M%C3%A9trique]]), <math>ds^2</math> is named: le carré de l'intervalle ''infinitésimal'' d'espace-temps (translation: the square of the infinitesimal spacetime interval).

Thanks for your help. [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB10:85B:9D00:8561:9255:3884:112C|2A01:CB10:85B:9D00:8561:9255:3884:112C]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB10:85B:9D00:8561:9255:3884:112C|talk]]) 00:11, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

: Thanks for coming to my talk page. See <ref>{{cite book |title=Introducing Einstein's Relativity: A Deeper Understanding |author1=Ray d'Inverno |author2=James Vickers |edition=illustrated |publisher=Oxford University Press |year=2022 |isbn=978-0-19-886202-4 |page=27 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=LGxvEAAAQBAJ}} [https://books.google.com/books?id=LGxvEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA27 Extract of page 27]</ref>
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:: "''In this picture, the square of the '''interval''' between any two events <math>(t1,x1,y1,z1)</math> and <math>(t2,x2,y2,z2)</math> is defined by <math>s^2 = (t1-t2)^2 - (x1-x2)^2 - (y1-y2)^2 - (z1-z2)^2</math> and it is this quantity which is invariant under a Lorentz transformation.Note that, formally, we always denote the ‘square’ of the interval by <math>s^2</math>, but the quantity <math>s</math> is only defined if the right-hand side of (2.12) is nonnegative.''"
: So, indeed the phrase "''the square '''of''' the interval ... is defined '''by''' <math>s^2</math> = ...''" can be paraphrased to "''the squared spacetime interval is defined as <math>(\Delta{s})^2</math> ...''"
: I have undone my edit and put the citation with the link in place in the article ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spacetime&diff=1219369023&oldid=1219282987]) and struck my comment on your user talk page ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A2A01%3ACB10%3A85B%3A9D00%3A487D%3A6A2A%3A2128%3ABC24&diff=1219369258&oldid=1219283540]). You were correct. My apologies. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 10:22, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

== Discussion of disruptive editing by [[User:A.Viki Wiki7]] at ANI ==

Good day, I have started a discussion at [[WP:ANI|ANI]] on disruptive editing by a user you have interacted with, [[User:A.Viki Wiki7|A.Viki Wiki7]]. If you'd like to take part, the discussion can be found [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:_A.Viki_Wiki7 here]. Thanks! [[User:Nfutvol|nf utvol]] ([[User talk:Nfutvol|talk]]) 15:16, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

== Experiencing Wigner Rotation ==

Hello. I see you have participated in talk regarding the Wikipedia page on Wigner Rotation, (which looks to be well done, BTW.) I have been working for a few years on a simulation environment, and in it, you can easily undergo four equal-sized acceleration bursts in each of four orthogonal directions. The resulting rotation is clearly seen. Please visit http://RelativityLand.org, I have just made it publicly available. I am trying to publicize this work to physics educators, anything you can do to “spread the word” would be appreciated. Thanks. [[User:Randallbsmith|Randallbsmith]] ([[User talk:Randallbsmith|talk]]) 22:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

:{{rto|Randallbsmith}} You might have the wrong person in mind, as I have made no edits to [[Wigner rotation]] or [[Talk:Wigner rotation]]. Also note that Wikipedia is really not the place to “spread the word” about new developments {{smiley}}. Cheers. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 22:58, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

== Vedic heliocentrism  ==

some one had readded the statement about heliocentrism in Vedic scriptures in [[heliocentrism]] article the subsection of ancient India talks about is{{talk quote|Vedic era philosopher Yajnavalkya (c. 900–700 Century BCE) proposed elements of heliocentrism stating that the Sun was "the center of the spheres}} can you see whether this reference provide is reliable and secondly the reference is based on the work ''Discovery that changed the world'' by a person named Rodney castleden who isn't even a historian nor a physicist nor his work isn't even an scientific journal [[User:Myuoh kaka roi|Myuoh kaka roi]] ([[User talk:Myuoh kaka roi|talk]]) 10:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{rto|Myuoh kaka roi}} best to bring this up at the article talk page [[Talk:Heliocentrism]]. Cheers. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 11:47, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks I had already added it in the talk page so that changes will occur and secondly I think most of the information of Vedic heliocentrism comes from this article [[Yajnavalkya's theory of heliocentrism]] which already has unreliable and questionable sources [[User:Myuoh kaka roi|Myuoh kaka roi]] ([[User talk:Myuoh kaka roi|talk]]) 12:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

== Sandbox error ==

Hello. I see you've [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ADVdm%2Fsandbox&diff=1239951882&oldid=1237758660 just added] two problematic html tags with errors on your sandbox page. <nowiki><p/> and <p /> </nowiki> are [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Lint_errors/self-closed-tag selfclosing tags] (a tracked syntax error), and should not be used. If you are testing something here for a short time, that's fine, otherwise I ask that you remove them and use something else, <br/>like <nowiki><p>text</p>, or text{{pb}} text</nowiki>. Thank you, and best wishes. [[User:Zinnober9|Zinnober9]] ([[User talk:Zinnober9|talk]]) 17:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

: {{rto|Zinnober9}} Yes, I removed the problematic stuff {{smiley}}. Ok [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ADVdm%2Fsandbox&diff=1239956292&oldid=1239951882 like this]? - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 17:26, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
::That's fine. Thanks! [[User:Zinnober9|Zinnober9]] ([[User talk:Zinnober9|talk]]) 17:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

== Quotation marks ==

Hi, where exactly is this written: When quoting a full sentence, the end of which coincides with the end of the sentence containing it, place terminal punctuation inside the closing quotation mark."?   Regards [[User:Denisarona|Denisarona]] ([[User talk:Denisarona|talk]]) 11:01, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
:{{rto|Denisarona}} in [[MOS:LQ]]:
{{talk quote|
::If the quotation is a single word or a sentence fragment, place the terminal punctuation outside the closing quotation mark. When quoting a full sentence, the end of which coincides with the end of the sentence containing it, place terminal punctuation inside the closing quotation mark.
::*{{xt|Miller wanted, he said, "to create something timeless".}}
::*{{xt|Miller said: "I wanted to create something timeless."}}
}}
: Cheers - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 11:34, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

== About the External links section of Twin Paradox article ==

Now that I've checked it out, I agree too.

I followed the line of reasoning without thinking too much, just trusting what was already there. Since I saw the URL as apparently dead, I looked for the most recent archived one I could access and added it (following the example I saw in the first item on the list in the same section). I think that, in this case, removing the entire line (fourth item on the list) may be viable and serve as a learning experience (in the editorial sense) for other colleagues too.

I'll leave it as it is, but my personal wish is to: 
*remove the first (this item actually denies access to the resource and the archived version serves as a workaround to access it) and the fourth item on the list.

Regarding the second and third items, some resources are not accessible via Android, but work on larger devices with more 'robust' operating systems. 

Thanks for reminding me how important it is to trust without failing to verify.

[[User:GKNishimoto|GKNishimoto]] ([[User talk:GKNishimoto|talk]]) 14:16, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

: {{rto|GKNishimoto}} If I recall correctly, the first link was agreed upon by the contributors, perhaps as being written by a recognized authority. In any case, it survived by de-facto [[wp:consensus]], so removing it might need proposing to do so on the article talk page. I personally think it is at least okay to leave it sitting there, since the old Usenet sci.physics.relativity group is no longer alive. Cheers - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 14:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
::Okay, I think I understand. Once again, I thank you for your attention and guidance.
::
::[[User:GKNishimoto|GKNishimoto]] ([[User talk:GKNishimoto|talk]]) 18:30, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

== [[General relativity|ΦII]] ==

[https://doi.org/10.1016/j.astropartphys.2024.103036 .] [[User:A55124231343Z|A55124231343Z]] ([[User talk:A55124231343Z|talk]]) 22:22, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{rto|A55124231343Z}} what do you mean? - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 22:36, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
::The article contradicts the statement: no such theory exists: as is indicated [https://interestingengineering.com/science/general-relativity-quantum-physics-united here] [[User:A55124231343Z|A55124231343Z]] ([[User talk:A55124231343Z|talk]]) 23:24, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
::: Not a [[wp:reliable source]] for Wikipedia. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 03:37, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
::::if you will: what exact qualities of the source makes it unreliable?   [[User:A55124231343Z|A55124231343Z]] ([[User talk:A55124231343Z|talk]]) 18:27, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
::::: [https://interestingengineering.com/science/general-relativity-quantum-physics-united This] with [https://interestingengineering.com/about-us this about-page] clearly identifies as a private initiative, and thus is a counter-example of [[wp:reliable sources]]. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 22:23, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

== Whiskey GoGo zappa  ==

Release date is June 21 2024. April was press release. [[Special:Contributions/2600:1001:B026:A5CC:79DD:37A7:9D2C:F4D2|2600:1001:B026:A5CC:79DD:37A7:9D2C:F4D2]] ([[User talk:2600:1001:B026:A5CC:79DD:37A7:9D2C:F4D2|talk]]) 02:31, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
:Standing corrected: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frank_Zappa_discography&diff=1249313043&oldid=1248635319]. Thanks.
:Please consider [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|signing up for a useraccount]]. Makes lifes much easier. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 08:13, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

== Missing citation for added text ==

Hello DVdm! You removed my edit to the Infinity article. It’s the same source as the forgoing text, the Morris Kline book. Here is what the (most) relevant part of the already cited section by Morris Kline says:

“The point O′ corresponds to the imagined meeting point at infinity of AB and CD, but because this point does not actually exist, O′ is called the principal vanishing point. It vanishes in the sense that it does not correspond to any actual point on AB or CD, whereas other points on A′B′ or CD′ do correspond to actual points on AB or CD, respectively.”

https://books.apple.com/us/book/mathematics-for-the-nonmathematician/id623642918

Does this clear up the matter sufficiently? 

-Zxywvoids [[User:Zyxwvoids|Zyxwvoids]] ([[User talk:Zyxwvoids|talk]]) 14:22, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

:{{rto|Zyxwvoids}} Yes, I have a copy of the book, and indeed, this passage can be found at page 221, but the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Infinity&diff=prev&oldid=1252358404 content that you added] does not directly appear in the book. It is an interpretation of the source, We can paraphrase or quote some content from a source, but interpreting the text as you did is an example of [[wp:original research]], which is not allowed, whether your interpretation is correct or not. Hope this helps!
: By the way, I have [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Infinity&diff=1252490223&oldid=1252426449 replaced] the cited source template with one that is easier to access. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 16:00, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
::DVdm, I understand what you are saying. Thank you for the prompt reply and consideration! [[User:Zyxwvoids|Zyxwvoids]] ([[User talk:Zyxwvoids|talk]]) 16:29, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
::: No problem, keep up the good work! - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 17:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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== Frank Zappa ==

I merely edited one sentence, removing a not especially relevant portion of the quote and substituting a better explanation for the choice of Frank Zappa for a memorial.[[Special:Contributions/72.173.82.128|72.173.82.128]] ([[User talk:72.173.82.128|talk]]) 00:34, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

: With [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frank_Zappa&diff=1256806702&oldid=1256756476 this edit] you removed sourced content together with the source pointer, and replaced it with an unsourced explanation. See [[wp:Verifiability]]. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 13:33, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

== Help undoing dismiss of specific watchlist page announcement ==

{{helpme-helped|There was an announcement (about blacking out or something) on my watchlist page and instead of going to the page link, I accidentally clicked the ''dismiss'' link. How can I undo this?

Logging out and in again does not do the trick, and I didn't find anything on the [[Help:Notifications/FAQ]]. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 20:27, 14 November 2024 (UTC) }}

:Never mind: Found it with [https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=wikipedia+undo+dismiss+of+watch+list+announcement Google]. First hit on [[MediaWiki:Watchlist-messages]] has all the recent announcements. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 20:31, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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== About the blank summary ==

Thanks for the heads up/reminder. Sometimes I don't summarize the edit for fear of making a mistake (since I'm not a native English speaker).

This is not the first time I have made an "insignificant" edit and, shortly after, an anonymous "wrong" edit comes along that is later corrected by a more experienced editor. Having lived in Japan, I have a bit of a habit of only talking/responding when asked.

I'll try in the next ones, but in that case I just imitated the pattern I saw in other images in the same article.
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