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==User:205.222.240.2==
: Hi BDD. I put this information on the user page to identify this account as a school with shared access, not to be rude.  My intention was to alert admins who might be tempted to hand out a permanent ban. The ip is (presumably) shared by many students and we should try to avoid long term blocks in this case. [[User:Duk|Duk]] 16:18, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the line, Duk. I practice a policy of "hating the sin, not the sinner," so I wasn't really upset at you. I understand your intentions, given that this was a vandal, but I also feared that your actions could easily be misconstrued as inconsiderate or rude. I, for one, would not appreciate someone posting the location of this IP, another public school, even though there is a vandal or two who uses the same address. Thus, I still think that my actions were justified. Could we agree to keep the IP accessible to administrators (or even law enforcement officials) via the page's history, without showcasing the school's information to anyone who comes across it? --[[User:BDD|BDD]] 16:34, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:Registered users have anonymity, not even admins can access the IP's of a registered user (developers can). But wikipedia does not let unregistered users hide their IP; in fact, an unregistered user's account name _is_ their IP. Anyone can do a reverse dns search to find this type of information. I always do this when dealing with unregistered vandals, to see if the IP is shared,  static, or re-allocated.
:I put back some of the information on the user page, you can trim it if you like. We should retain the fact that it is a shared school account.--[[User:Duk|Duk]] 17:59, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
::I understand the proceedures; I just wanted to have minimal protection rather than none. Could we compromise by keeping a note that it is a shared school IP and let people check the details via the history? I know I probably sound pretty petty, but I just feel like we shouldn't humiliate the guy or anything. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] 12:50, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:::Yes, sounds good, make it so :) --[[User:Duk|Duk]] 17:49, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
::::Jolly good show. Workin' together... that's what Wikipedia's all about. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] 18:49, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==[[List of notable U.S. presidential relatives]]==
You sound offended Alex, and I'm sorry if you are. I was not questioning the accuracy of the statement, only it's relevance. There is nothing notable or even unusual about being a liberal or even an atheist, so why mention it? He never was arrested for these actions motivated by his views, as far as I know. RR Jr. strikes me as a very ordinary person rather mediocre who's had his 15 minutes of fame for being his dad's son. Do his views deserve your supplying a wider broascast? [[User:Vfp15|Vincent]] 04:03, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:[[Ron Reagan]] is an atheist and very much liberal. (''Anon'')

Not so much, Vincent, no, I'm not really offended. Initially I felt a bit blown off since you were acting like what I wrote wasn't even true, and apparently hadn't even looked at Ron's article. I believe that his views are mostly what he's known for. I mean, I know Wikipedia is a place to come to learn, but I hadn't even heard of his ''Saturday Night Live'' escapade. I knew him as the leftist son of the 20th century's right-most president who endorsed John Kerry and wrote against George W. Bush. To me, keeping the article as it was would be like mentioning some point where Billy Carter got into a traffic accident and giving no mention to [[Billy Beer]].

The bottom line, I think, is that I am following the title of the article closer, whereas you are following the text at the top more so. I agree that his beliefs aren't scandalous, and I agree that being liberal in and of itself is not notable. It's simply the context that makes it notable in this case. If [[Jerry Falwell]] had an atheist son, it would be notable. If a grandson of [[Adolf Hitler]] heavily supported Martin Luther King in the civil rights movement, it would be notable. And if you do think this is unfair, I would be fully supportive of adding similar cases to other presidents. I, indeed, am a liberal, but if Chelsea Clinton started interning with Rush Limbaugh, even I would jump to add that to this page.

I can understand where you're coming from. How about you? --[[User:BDD|BDD]] 02:19, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

''Hope this was concise enough. What I was originally writing here got wiped before I could post it.''

== AMA Meeting Proposal ==

Hi!  I put together a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AMA_Meeting_%28suggested_topics%29#New_Membership_Meeting_Call proposal for another AMA meeting] that I'm hopeful you can chime in on.  --[[User:Wgfinley|Wgfinley]] 19:47, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==NASCAR == 
BDD: I appreciated your ironic correction of Mark Holmberg. Thanks for taking the initiative to fill in all those columnists ( ...and correcting the one original misspelling!). Could you edit the sports page section to add a bit on RIR and NASCAR races. I myself don't read the RTD sports section but I know car races and other events at RIR are popular. The backgound is I just created the article on [[Richmond International Raceway]] yesterday and then realized that the RTD sports section might have a reference to it... and I found that it doesn't. I just don't know what to say. [[User:MPS|MPS]] 13:55, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. I'm really not big on NASCAR, but I do hope Henrico County gets the Hall of Fame. I'll see what I can do; I'm glad you appreciate the work. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] 14:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

== Invite to Star Wars Wiki ==

Come on over to the '''[http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Main_Page Star Wars Wiki (aka Wookieepedia)]'''. We'd love to have another Star Wars contrib. [[User:SparqMan|SparqMan]] 21:56, 11 May 2005 (UTC)[User:Riffsyphon1024|Riffsyphon1024]] 05:57, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)

==Altar Q==
I'm not the right person to ask about restoring this page as it would be against proper procedure for me to do so. If you feel strongly that the page should be undeleted your best option is to list it at [[Wikipedia:Votes for Undeletion]] and present you arguments there. - [[User:SimonP|SimonP]] 19:58, May 21, 2005 (UTC)

:Thank you, Simon. I didn't know any better, but will now be removing my comments from your talk page to put them on VfU. Thanks for directing me to the proper place. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] 20:31, 21 May 2005 (UTC)


==Reverting an article==
Hello, I don't know if anyone's answered this yet but after reading your User Page I thought I'd help you out with reverting articles. Here are the steps:
1. Go to the Article's History page
2. Choose the "correct" version of the page (i.e. the one prior to the vandalizement)
3. The version of the article you selected should come up
4. Choose to edit the page
5. When you are on the edit page, simply put "rv" in the Edit Summary and choose to save the page
The page will then be reverted. Sorry if this didnt make much sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revert go here if you need more help. -[[User:CunningLinguist|CunningLinguist]] 22:15, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

== [[Altar Q]] ==

...has been undeleted. It's presently on VFD, per proper process. Please contribute to the vote, and add your newly found information to the article. Yours, [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 07:21, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

== Collectivism ==

I suggest you take the time and read the writings of the eminent twentieth-century Russian-American philosopher Ayn Rand.  They will dispel the blatant myth of collectivism that you have quite obviously fallen prey to.

Also, stop calling yourself a "liberal".  That term properly belongs to individuals such as myself, Ayn Rand, Barry Goldwater, Murray Rothbard, Michael Badnarik, and P.J. O'Rourke.

Thanks! [[User:Kmweber|Kurt Weber]] 19:48, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

== Human Rights Servey on Wikipedia (The final post of I_sterbinski) ==

::Dear all,

:Wikipedia was recently a subject of intensive research of an huge international human right organization. A team of people from different nationalities and ages were acting on Wikipedia for 20 days, investigating previously noted anomalities of Wikipedia free editing and forming a final report, which (between the others similar reports) will later be a guide to all future moves of the organization concerning Wikipedia. Acting under an account of a real person, their privacy is to be held private. Therefore, very few private information will be revealed.
:Also, this is a result of the lack of final possition of the organization concerning Wikipedia and human rights, which was still not formed.

:The team's final post on Wikipedia, where they explain their actions can be found on the following addresses:
:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:I_sterbinski
:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macedonia#Human_Rights_Servey_on_Wikipedia_.28The_final_post_of_I_sterbinski.29

:The team would like to thank to all the persons who took part in the correspondence with us.
:We also want to appologise for keeping our identity secret for a longer period.

:Best regards,
:Aleksandar, Biljana, Asparuh, Christos, Valjon, Michael and Ana Luiza
:[[User:I sterbinski|I sterbinski]] 01:06, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

== [[Samuel H. Shapiro]] ==

Since you added fraternity information, I would suggest that you also add college information.  It looks a little odd to talk about the former without even a mention of where he went to college. -- [[User:DS1953|DS1953]] 14:12, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
:I will certainly look elsewhere, as the AEPi manual gave no mention of the specific college. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] 16:15, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

==[[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Template/Workshop]]==
You, or any  Wikipedia user, can contribute your suggestions and comments to the /Workshop page of any active arbitration case. Comments on evidence or proposals can help in understanding the import of evidence and in refining proposals. Proposed principles, findings of fact, or remedies may be listed on /Proposed decision and form part of the final decision.  [[User:Fred Bauder|Fred Bauder]] 18:38, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

==Flitwick's drink==
Any particular reason you removed Flitwick's drink preference?  Too obscure a detail?  Just wondering, [[User:Kam Tonnes|Kam Tonnes]] 00:14, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:Exactly. It seemed very out of place. I've read all books and seen all movies, so I don't think I'm missing anything that would render that significant. Do you think it's worth inclusion? --[[User:BDD|BDD]] 18:52, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
::I think I was just trying to include as much information as possible for a minor character who doesn't have a whole lot of information available.  You are probably right, though.  I don't mind it staying out. -- [[User:Kam Tonnes|Kam Tonnes]] 01:26, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I certainly understand that, having an article outlining all we know of him. As long as you don't mind it being removed, though. I'm just not sure its inclusion does much. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] 13:24, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

== AMA ==

Hello, you are receiving this message because your name is on the list of members of the [[Wikipedia:Association of Members' Advocates|Association of Members' Advocates]]. There is a poll being held at [[Wikipedia talk:Association of Members' Advocates]] for approval of a proposal for the revitalisation of the association. You are eligible to vote and your vote and input are welcome. [[User:Izehar|Izehar]] 22:16, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

== AMA, II ==

You have voted '''Neutral''' on the vote currently held at [[WP:AMA|AMA]]. I have voted '''Oppose, request split of voting'''. I suggest you do the same, otherwise, the rules will pass without objection. Thanks — [[User:IanManka|Ian Manka]] <sup>[[User talk:IanManka|Questions? Talk to me!]]</sup> 03:14, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks, Ian. That does better express my position. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] 03:34, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

== New AMA poll ==

Please have a look at the [[Wikipedia talk:Association of Members' Advocates|proposed election parameters]] under the section entitled ''An election proposal...'' and cast a ballot. [[User:Wally|Wally]] 23:27, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

== AMA Coordinator Election ==

Dear AMA Member,

You are entitled to vote in the AMA Coordinator election, set to begin at midnight on 3 February 2006. Please see the pages [[Wikipedia: AMA 2006 Coordinator Election|on the election and its candidates]] and [[Wikipedia:AMA Coordinator Election Procedure|the procedure and policy]] and cast a vote by e-mail!

[[User:Wally|Wally]] 10:59, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

== AEPi ==

Hey, thought you'd like to know I came up with an AEPi userbox. Interesting that you're not Jewish and a member, but oh well. Thought you might like it.

Just put {{t1|User aepi}} on your userpage, and the box will show up and automatically put you in the "Wikipedians in Alpha Epsilon Pi" Category -- [[User:Pm shef|pm_shef]] 00:10, 27 March 2006 (UTC)


== Important AfD ==

*The article for the G10 Group of Prestigious Canadian Universities is up for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/G10_%28Canadian_universities%29 Deletion], please go and support Education related articles in Canada. This is a very important group of schools, Canada's version of the Ivy League, and it needs your support! -- [[User:Pm shef|pm_shef]] 04:06, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

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==Dr. McNinja==

Thank you for endorsing undeletion! I was unaware that Dr. mcNinja was a memeber of Dayfree Press--I've added that to the article draft (if you find any other purtinent info, please feel free to add it directly to the article). I hope this one pulls through. ~ [[User:PHDrillSergeant|<span style="color:blue;">Porphyric Hemophiliac</span>]] [[User_talk:PHDrillSergeant|<span style="color:green;">§</span>]] 22:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

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== mongol expansion ==
thanks! I like your userpage motto by the way, it especially is true if you look through random pages --[[User:Astrokey44|Astrokey]]<small>[[User_talk:Astrokey44|44]]</small> 10:40, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Solicitud de ayuda a AMA ==

Hola, gracias por tu ayuda. 

El caso es que he sido bloqueado de forma permanente (infinito) en la es.wikipedia [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portada] por el usuario Dodo [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Dodo]. En la es.wikipedia no existe ningún mecanismo de resolución de conflictos [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution]. Me he dirigido al usuario Angela de Meta para consultarle que podía hacer sobre este tema y su respuesta viene a ser que las wiki locales son autónomas [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Angela&diff=prev&oldid=382024]. Creo que esto está en contradicción con las bases de Wikipedia [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Foundation_issues], aunque parece acorde con la definición de usuarios retirados [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banned_user]

El usuario Dodo, además de ser bibliotecario, tiene un peso específico muy importante en es.wikipedia [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Dodo&dbname=eswiki_p] y en las acciones del resto de bibliotecarios.

Me he dirigido a este usuario, de acuerdo con las instrucciones que se dan al usuario que ha sido bloqueado cuando intenta editar, a través del IRC y allí me han insultado y me han bloqueado.

He solicitado que se retirasen de mi página de usuario los datos personales y solo han sido retirados tras mediación de otro bibliotecario en base a mi "Derecho a desaparecer" [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Right_to_vanish] sin embargo no han retirado ni mi página de discusión ni me permiten editarla. De esta forma han realizado una redirección de mi página de usuario a un comentario en el que se indica que yo he solictado retirarme de Wikipedia. Lo cual no es cierto.

La causa por la que he sido bloqueado no es la de vandalismo trivial [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vandalism] sino la interpretación que se aplica de forma sistemática a todas las personas que discuten alguna política en es.wikipedia aunque bien es cierto que en alguna ocasión debido al círculo vicioso he incurrido en alguna edición que pudiera ser objeto de penalización.

Te agradecería tu mediación, en la medida de lo posible. Caso de que sean necesarias más referencias o documentación te las facilitaré con mucho gusto.

Manuel Joseph [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Mjoseph] contribuciones [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Mjoseph&dbname=eswiki_p] [[User:Mjoseph|Mjoseph]] 15:25, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

== AMA Roll Call ==

There is currently an [[Wikipedia:Association of Members' Advocates/Roll call|AMA Roll Call]] going on. Please visit the page and sign your name to indicate whether or not you're still active. :-) <small>[[User_talk:The_Thadman|אמר]]</small> [[User:The_Thadman|<b style="color:#0033CC; font-family:monospace, monospace;">Steve Caruso</b>]] <sub><b style="color:#000000;">([[User:The_Thadman/Desk|<span style="color:#000000;">desk</span>]]/[[User_talk:The_Thadman/Poll|<span style="color:#000000;">poll</span>]])</b></sub> 17:57, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

== Dear BDD, please email me ==
Dear BDD,

Can you please email me? My email address is MichaelDWolok@aol.com     This is not spam.  I am sending this email to four other advocates today.  I am having a hard time with Wikipedia and am looking for an advocate with a lot of experience with Wikipedia to help me.  Thank you.    Email: MichaelDWolok@aol.com

[[User:Michael D. Wolok|Michael D. Wolok]] 18:31, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

==Felipe Calderón==
If it's frivolous then I'm sure you will have no trouble providing a source, preferably an English language one. I have not reverted your edit because I am no longer allowed to edit without being blocked. Regards, [[User:Freestylefrappe|freestylefrappe]] 02:46, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

==Regarding [[WP:AMA|Association of Members' Advocates]]==
Hi, you are receiving this message because you have listed yourself as an active member of [[WP:AMA]]. If you aren't currently accepting inquiries for AMA, or if you have resigned, please de-list yourself from [[Wikipedia:AMA Members]]. If you are still active, please consider tending to any new requests that may appear on [[:Category:AMA Requests for Assistance]]. We're going to put AMA on wheels. :)  Sorry for the template spamming - we're just trying to update our records, after we had a huge backlog earlier in the week (if you've been taking cases, then sorry, and please ignore this :)).  Again, sorry, and thanks! <strong>[[User:Martinp23|<span style="color:blue;">M</span>]][[User:Martinp23/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">a</span>]][[User:Martinp23|<span style="color:blue;">rtinp23</span>]]</strong> 20:50, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

== [[User:152.163.100.201]] ==

This user is an AOL user, and not only is it sometimes shared by many different people, but every time someone logs back into AOL, their ''IP changes.'' BAnning someone over an offense has no merit, because they can just sign back out and sign in again (I've seen it happen before); what's more, it would ban many someone ''else''s. -[[User:Patstuart|Patstuart]]<sup>[[User_talk:Patstuart|(talk)]][[Special:contributions/Patstuart|(contribs)]]</sup> 16:40, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I saw that... my problem was that the casual user looking at that page would get an illusion of leniency towards vandals. Maybe AOL users shouldn't be given "ultimatum"-type warnings. You don't threaten someone with banning if you won't actually ban them, mm? --[[User:BDD|BDD]] 21:18, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

== Monarchies/Republics ==

A monarchy differs from a republic in that a monarch is the head of state. Like here in the UK: we may elect a government but Her Maj technically wields supreme executive power. Not like the good ol' US of A of course, where a system of checks and balances ensure President Dubya wields supreme executive... er... never mind. --[[User:81.79.29.103|81.79.29.103]] 02:05, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

== Are you an AMA member ==

Are you an AMA member? If so please make sure your name is on the membership list. --[[User:CyclePat|CyclePat]] 04:16, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

== Reply to Premier League Top Scorers ==
Well if we included those who scored fewer goals and gave fewer assists, we'd end up with way more than the top 10: it'll be like the top 20. When the season goes on and more goals are scored, then it'll be clearer, as you said. Right now it's best to stay less than 10 rather to have way more. [[User:The does|The does]] ([[User talk:The does|talk]]) 15:19, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Respectfully, I disagree. It helps to know who's in the 4-goal range, since it makes it easier to move someone up when he scores his fifth. And at this point, when just one of them does so, we're at an even top 10 with everyone who's scored 5 and up and we're both happy. It probably won't happy today or tomorrow, but next week if any one of those 6 players scores, we're good. Or even if someone at 3 goals gets really active. So what do you say? Perhaps we can agree that the table won't look the way we'd like it to early on, but err on the side of more, rather than less, information? I think that's a good overall Wikipedian principle. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] ([[User talk:BDD#top|talk]]) 15:29, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Alright, I see someone added a note with the 4-goal scorers. I can live with this compromise, but I think you'll see if you look at previous league tables, the convention is to include the top 10 scorers regardless of whether it's ten men or not. Hopefully a few goals next week solve the problem for us. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] ([[User talk:BDD#top|talk]]) 15:52, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

== Appearances in CL top goalscorers reply ==

Hey,

I'm sorry, but minutes played is not there to offer insight on scoring frequency. It's there as a method of ranking. If two players have scored 5 goals, the player that has played the least amount of minutes played gets placed higher. Appearances are not used for that purpose, which is why I removed the column. [[User:Digirami|Digirami]] ([[User talk:Digirami|talk]]) 23:22, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
:Well, I'm quite sure it serves both purposes. It has a function in the rankings, yes, but it need not. Look at the corresponding table in [[2010%E2%80%9311 Premier League|this season's Premier League]]--there really isn't any reason we couldn't just rank players alphabetically who have the same number of goals. And as long as we record minutes played, it's helpful to include a number of appearances. After a while, the minute counts just get to be very big numbers. And we frequently compare appearances to goals scored on an individual level; it's prominently displayed in the player templates, even for goalkeepers. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] ([[User talk:BDD#top|talk]]) 00:24, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
::It does not. It is clear from the UEFA's site that minutes are used for ranking purposes. When players are tied in the number of goals scored, the player with the least amount of minutes played gets ranked higher. Appearances do not even show up in their goalscorers list. If minutes did not matter, then yes, alphabetical order for players with the same number of goals is the logical choice. [[User:Digirami|Digirami]] ([[User talk:Digirami|talk]]) 04:27, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Sure, but while the UEFA table is the primary source for ours, it's not just a copy. This is Wikipedia! We're going to have more information than just about anyone else anyway. What's wrong with including a statistic as basic and important as appearances? --[[User:BDD|BDD]] ([[User talk:BDD#top|talk]]) 04:35, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
::::It's not important in this case because it is not used the purpose of ranking. Including it would also be considered original research, and that's a no-no. [[User:Digirami|Digirami]] ([[User talk:Digirami|talk]]) 04:48, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Player nationality and club affiliation aren't used for ranking, but we include them. Also, appearances are readily available from the UEFA site, so it really doesn't even come close to violating [[Wikipedia:No original research|Wikipedia's policy against original research]]. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] ([[User talk:BDD#top|talk]]) 05:48, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::But appearance count does. [[User:Digirami|Digirami]] ([[User talk:Digirami|talk]]) 06:24, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::How? Click any player's name in that same table and you'll get his appearance count. It's not a number I or anyone else just made up or is guessing at. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] ([[User talk:BDD#top|talk]]) 15:34, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Not all players. And it also boderline against [[WP:NOT#STATS]]. The only stats should be in that table are those pertinent to ranking. Appearances do not factor in to it. Anything else is extra fluff. [[User:Digirami|Digirami]] ([[User talk:Digirami|talk]]) 19:51, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

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== Thanks ==

Thanks for your support on [[Talk:Unfulfilled religious predictions]].  What a hopeless article that is. [[User:Phiwum|Phiwum]] ([[User talk:Phiwum|talk]]) 14:50, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


== Requested Move for Artificial Intelligence ==
Isn't AI a proper noun as it is a unique field of study?  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Varagrawal|Varagrawal]] ([[User talk:Varagrawal|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Varagrawal|contribs]]) 04:37, 6 April 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:That's generally not the sort of thing we'd capitalize here. Compare, perhaps, [[international relations]], or [[organic chemistry]]. You may see such capitalization in a course catalog, to refer to a specific class on the topic, but otherwise, this capitalization calls to mind an organization. Lowercase is the default for a topic, including fields of study. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] ([[User talk:BDD#top|talk]]) 15:02, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

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== Public outcry ==

Redirects should be nominated at [[WP:RFD]], not [[WP:AFD]]. I moved it there for you. <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|What did I screw up now?]])</sup> 20:56, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

== Merge proposal for Government / Political system ==

Hi Beland, I noticed you didn't create a discussion section for your proposed merger of [[Political system]] into [[Government]]. I thought you might want to know another user began [[Talk:Government#Objection to the "merge the Political System page with the Government page" suggestion|a section]] in opposition to your proposal. I thought you might want to give some of your reasons. As such—perhaps just because the only respondents so far are opposed—it's hard to see it going anywhere. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] ([[User talk:BDD|talk]]) 02:45, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks for the heads up! -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] ([[User talk:Beland|talk]]) 08:11, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

== GOCE request completion ==

Hi, I saw your edit summary asking if it matters whether you use {{tl|done}} or {{tl|completed}}. No, it doesn't matter how you signal the completion, so long as I can spot it. Thanks for asking. Rgds, --[[User:Stfg|Stfg]] ([[User talk:Stfg|talk]]) 21:39, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks! I didn't really expect anyone to answer. :) --[[User:BDD|BDD]] ([[User talk:BDD#top|talk]]) 22:31, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
::Just saw your HTML comment in the leaderboard. Yes, 10K counts as 2, and 22990 (sheesh!) will count as 4. If you survive it :)) --[[User:Stfg|Stfg]] ([[User talk:Stfg|talk]]) 13:21, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

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== Haitian Creole ==

You previously made a comment about a move request [[Talk:Haitian Creole language#Requested move|Talk:Haitian Creole language]].  Just to let you know that [[Haitian Creole people]] was moved to [[Haitian people]] after [[Talk:Haitian people|a related move request]] in case this affects your opinion in the former case.  — [[User talk:AjaxSmack|<span style="border:1px solid #000073;background:#4D4DA6;padding:2px;color:#F9FFFF;text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em"><span style="font-family:Georgia;">&nbsp;'''AjaxSmack'''&nbsp;</span></span>]] 03:00, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

== For the see also section ==

*[[List of Indian snacks]]

Best, [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak|talk]]) 05:37, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks! --[[User:BDD|BDD]] ([[User talk:BDD#top|talk]]) 20:24, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

== Croats of Bosnia and Herzegovina ==

Hi, I left you a message on my [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wustenfuchs#Copyediting_of_Croats_in_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina talk page].

Thx for working on the article. --<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">[[User:Wustenfuchs|<span style="font-size:medium;color:Black;">Wusten</span>]][[User talk:Wustenfuchs|<span style="font-size:medium;color:Dimgray;">fuchs</span>]]</span> 15:32, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

== Thermopylae ==

Just visited your user page.  I'm not Greek myself (though my RL name forces me to explain that some folks), but I too was into the Battle of Thermopylae long before it was cool.  It's always been near the top of my list of tremendous Ancient History episodes, thanks to a history teacher whose emotional telling of it was like a work of interpretive literature.  Good to run across another whose historical knowledge antedated computer-enhanced cinematography.  Happy editing! [[User:HuskyHuskie|HuskyHuskie]] ([[User talk:HuskyHuskie|talk]]) 02:29, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

== Barnstars for May 2012 GOCE drive ==

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==Twitter issue==
As you had participated in the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Twitter users|previous AfD]], your views would be welcome here [[Talk:Use_of_Twitter_by_celebrities_and_politicians#Proposal_to_merge]]. §§[[User:Animeshkulkarni|AnimeshKulkarni]] ([[User talk:Animeshkulkarni|talk]])  16:32, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
==Talkback==
{{talkback|Mendaliv|Field support for MS degree|ts=16:05, 16 June 2012 (UTC)}}
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==Category renaming fiasco==
Hi. Thanks [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category_talk:Singers_awarded_knighthoods&oldid=498196841 for helping straighten out the mess I made]. I usually screw up stuff like renaming requests, etc.  [[User:Rms125a@hotmail.com|<span style="color:orange;">'''''Quis separabit?'''''</span>]] 17:38, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

== Deletion debates ==

I have to admit, deletion debates are where I get in the most trouble as a Wikipedian. I never have trouble collaborating outside of deletion debates, for the most part. Every time one arises, I tell myself, "Maybe I shouldn't even participate in this, because I'll get in trouble." But then I say, "Well, why not, I can just civilly express my opinion, and make a useful contribution to the discussion." But somehow it tends to go awry. Maybe it's partly because I create and edit articles on controversial subjects, and people's feelings and biases (including mine) end up tainting the discussion with emotion and personal opinion, when it really should just be dispassionate application of policy and collaboration to salvage the article, if it can be. I'm not really sure what to do about that, because if I create articles, then I am inevitably going to end up dealing with AfD at some point.

Also, people frequently say, "Policy says x," and then I ask where it says that, and they get offended. I suppose they think I'm wikilawyering, which maybe I am. But people try to have it both ways. On the one hand, they want to use policy to play wikiprosecutor, but then I can't point to the policy (or lack thereof) as a defense. If the issue is courtesy rather than policy, then I think people should say upfront that it's a matter of courtesy rather than policy. Although in this case I think there may have simply been some confusion about policy rather than an attempt to have a double standard.

Anyway, that article is probably going down in flames, but I don't see why it needs to when the information is so reliably sourced as to meet the [[WP:GNG]]. There must be a place on Wikipedia for the information somewhere, no? Maybe I'm wrong, who knows. It kinda blows when you go to the trouble to look up a whole bunch of mainstream media sources, which if not the gold standard of notability (academic journals seem to get more respect) are at least the silver standard, and the article still gets deleted. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 17:34, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
:That wikilawyering issue is a tricky one. Plenty of people wave around a bunch of initialisms like it's an alphabet soup contest. But the user you responded to on that AFD should have pointed somewhere instead of just saying "I think that's policy." But templates like the one you used are bound to feel like an attack when you respond with one alone. It may seem pedantic, but a quick statement like, "I'm not familiar with that policy—which one are you referring to?" is going to sound much more civil (even if you don't mean it!).

:As for the article itself, did you know you can create a draft article in your own user namespace? See [[WP:UPYES]] under "Work in progress or material that you may come back to in future." Just open a page like [[User:Leucosticte/Controversial cases involving sex offenses]] and you'll have effectively unlimited time to hone an article that will pass muster. You can even get other editors to help you, and eventually launch it into main space when you think it's ready. My warning: policies with legal foundations, such as [[WP:BLP]], may still apply to such pages, though I'm not sure. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] ([[User talk:BDD#top|talk]]) 17:55, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
::The downside is that it's not possible to wikilink from mainspace to the article in userspace. Traffic to the article aids collaboration on it, and incoming wikilinks, google hits and mainspace search results assist with getting traffic to it. Of course, traffic to an article that isn't yet up to par is exactly what the immediatists and/or deletionists want to prevent. It's kind of a catch-22, because without adequate collaboration, it may never get up to par. Also, I think in this case, the BLP concerns would have been issue even in userspace, and it could have ended up at [[WP:MFD]], a decidedly unfriendly environment. I of course don't agree with the BLP concerns, because Rodriguez has already received a lot of media coverage, so it's no secret from the Internet what his history is.

::The template was a bit of an attempt to inject humor into the situation, but I suppose humor in AfDs was deprecated a long time ago, since a lot of users got offended by whimsically-worded votes. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 18:05, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

== Thanks for your response ==

I've tried to address your concerns with an update to my FAQ at [[User:Born2cycle/FAQ#Change_guideline_first]].  --[[User:Born2cycle|Born2cycle]] ([[User talk:Born2cycle|talk]]) 18:49, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

== Upcoming RM ==

Perhaps the RMs I am working on are of interest to you: [[User:Kauffner/RM incubator]]. [[User:Kauffner|Kauffner]] ([[User talk:Kauffner|talk]]) 13:11, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

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