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:Thanks a lot, Sandahl. But I'm here since... 6 years ! ;D Happy new year. [[User:Alvaro|Alvaro]] ([[User talk:Alvaro#top|talk]]) 23:21, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
::OK. I saw the notice at the top of your page and thought you might be a new user needing help. Just go ahead and remove it. Happy new year to you also.—[[User:Sandahl|Sandahl]] ([[User talk:Sandahl|talk]]) 00:35, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I had a big smile when I saw the advice relative to <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> but the links are useful, especially the last one. Thanks a lot. In fact, I'm partly a new user, doing now more than interwikis or fixing links, I <small>(try to)</small> write! [[User:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>]]  [[User talk:Alvaro|☎]] 00:43, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Looks like you are doing  [[Canal du Loing|fine]]. This [[Template:Infobox Canal|template]] might be of interest to you relative to your canal articles.—[[User:Sandahl|Sandahl]] ([[User talk:Sandahl|talk]]) 01:31, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Thanks for the « nice » and the template (cf [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_Waterways&diff=prev&oldid=264254125 my question], 6 years in wp:fr make me very careful ;-). [[User:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>]]  [[User talk:Alvaro|☎]] 14:12, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:You are welcome.—[[User:Sandahl|Sandahl]] ([[User talk:Sandahl|talk]]) 16:06, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Don ==

Hi Alvaro, good work on the French rivers! About the Don, the most notable river Don is the one in Russia, then there's two reasonably long ones in the UK, a small one in Canada. I just checked the Sandre site: in France there's a [http://sandre.eaufrance.fr/app/chainage/courdo/htm/I20-0400.php?cg=I20-0400 30 km long Don], tributary of the Orne, and a [http://sandre.eaufrance.fr/app/chainage/courdo/htm/J791580A.php?cg=J791580A 20 km long Don], tributary of the Canut (but géoportail calls the Canut Don, and the Canut/Don is a tributary of the Vilaine). Since there's two rivers called Don in France, I would call the river you're talking about [[Don (Vilaine)]]. [[User:Markussep|Markussep]] <sup>[[User talk:Markussep|Talk]]</sup> 15:05, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:OK, merci Markussep. [[User:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>]]  [[User talk:Alvaro|☎]] 16:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

== Moder ==

There's no chance that the Moder comes into Germany, because it would have to cross the Rhine (that forms the border there) for that. Anyway: according to geoportail the Moder flows parallel to the Rhine for 2 km, and joins the Rhine just below the weir (barrage) of Iffezheim. Neuhaeusel is the closest village to this point, but it is on territory of Beinheim. I chose Neuhaeusel, no big deal IMO. [[User:Markussep|Markussep]] <sup>[[User talk:Markussep|Talk]]</sup> 14:33, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
:Ok + no big deal IOO (In Our Opinions ;-) [[User:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>]]  [[User talk:Alvaro|☎]] 14:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Bouzanne ==

Hi. You're doing a great job, but as you've asked for some help, I thought I'd add my two penn'orth. As an example, in the article on the river Bouzanne, I've introduced the <b>convert</b> template to all km measurements, for us Anglo-Saxons who prefer miles and I've one-worded directions like 'northwest' and swapped 'to' for 'of' in a couple of places. [[User:Dickeybird|Dickie]] ([[User talk:Dickeybird|talk]]) 09:46, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

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== Lignon ==

Hi Alvaro, first of all: good work on all the river articles! About Lignon: since the article [[Lignon]] already exists, but covers a not so notable village, I think the way to go is to move Lignon to [[Lignon, Marne]], and create a disambiguation page at Lignon. I will do that, with your two rivers on it. 

Something else: you've probably been copying river data from French wikipedia sofar. Do you have access to books or internet sites with river data (discharge, basin area) that's not in the Sandre database? It would be good to add references to them, let me know if you need help doing that. [[User:Markussep|Markussep]] <sup>[[User talk:Markussep|Talk]]</sup> 15:41, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

== Disambig. ==

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== rep ==

Coucou

Merci pour la bienvenue {{=)}} Mais je n'imagine pas rester dans le secteur pour autre chose que des interwikis, déjà sur simple, j'ai du mal  ;D. --[[User:Mica|Mica]] ([[User talk:Mica|talk]]) 18:36, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

==Demographics sections==
I am removing the demographics sections from French communes as I update the population to the 2006 in the infobox.  The existing information is now obsolete.  I don't know what you mean by garbage.  [[User:Ksnow|Ksnow]] ([[User talk:Ksnow|talk]]) 18:27, 22 April 2009 (UTC)Ksnow

:Sorry, that was a cut-and-paste error.  [[User:Ksnow|Ksnow]] ([[User talk:Ksnow|talk]]) 18:36, 22 April 2009 (UTC)Ksnow
::Sorry, I must have been half asleep this morning.  I don't know where you are, but it was very early when I did those.  It's a good thing you were watching.  I will try to be more careful.  [[User:Ksnow|Ksnow]] ([[User talk:Ksnow|talk]]) 15:12, 27 April 2009 (UTC)Ksnow
:::Alors pourquoi on parle en anglais?  J'aimerais bien y ètre moi-mème.  [[User:Ksnow|Ksnow]] ([[User talk:Ksnow|talk]]) 15:35, 27 April 2009 (UTC)Ksnow
::::Oui, je suis suissesse, mais j'habite Seattle. [[User:Ksnow|Ksnow]] ([[User talk:Ksnow|talk]]) 15:54, 27 April 2009 (UTC)Ksnow


== Re. Thanks, but... ==

Sorry about that. It seems I hit the revert button and moved on, without huggle loading and telling me it had already been reverted. It happens in times of high vandalism. Again, sorry, and happy editing. [[User talk:Leonard^Bloom|Lәo]]<sub>([[Special:RandomPage|βǃʘʘɱ]])</sub> 16:12, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

==Wolf Rock, Cornwall article==
Bonjour, Alvaro. I've just tagged [[Wolf Rock, Cornwall]] as a copyvio. Because it was a copyvio from day one (verified source pre-dates article through Internet Wayback Archive), has no substantive additions from others, and no clean version to revert to, it's tagged for speedy deletion. (Note to readers of this talkpage: Alvaro isn't responsible for the Copyvio.)

You mentioned on the talkpage you'd made [[:fr:Wolf Rock (Cornouailles)]] from it; the concern you subsequently expressed on the talkpage about it being a copyvio is correct. Am letting you know so you can take care of the fr-wiki version. Merci.&nbsp;–[[User talk:Whitehorse1|Whitehorse1]] 16:44, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:Thx for the tagging. Don't worry about [[:fr:Wolf Rock (Cornouailles)]], I rebuilt it from scratch [http://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wolf_Rock_(Cornouailles)&diff=33573384&oldid=33363111], 8 days after I had put the msg about the copyvio in [[Talk:Wolf Rock, Cornwall]]; it's a light and very personalized version of [http://www.trinityhouse.co.uk/interactive/gallery/wolf_rock.html Wolf Rock (Trinity House)]. Thanks for your job here. [[User:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>]] [[User talk:Alvaro|☎]] 21:16, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

== Ton courriel ==

Salut Alvaro,

Merci pour ton message. Ca donne à réfléchir, effectivement. En très résumé : je me sens un peu impuissante. Et... pour le reproche direct lié à l'arbitrage, je vais faire une réponse d'un niveau intellectuel stratosphérique : "C'est pas moi qui ai commencé, m'sieur, c'est Bapti !"

Je <s>répondrai</s> essaierai de répondre plus longuement par mail, mais je voulais juste accuser réception et te faire un coucou.

++,

--[[User:Moumine70|Moumine70]] ([[User talk:Moumine70|talk]]) 08:13, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

PS: Ce 70 est dû au fait que mon pseudo sur fr: était déjà pris ici, mais c'est bien moi :D

« c'est pas moi qui ai... » Arf ;D Vrai, j'avais oublié ça ; sans doute qu'il faisait ça, dans la série « faut être 2... » et donc ''taper'' sur les 2 ?

Merci d'avance pour ta réponse, mais bof, sauf si tu as des trucs vraiment ''spéciaux'' à dire, ne t'en donne pas la peine, je crois que nous nous sommes compris sur l'essentiel ; et puis, tout ça ne sert à rien ; comme on peut le voir sur le BA en ce moment, le blocage, créé pour lutter contre le vandalisme, est devenu une arme pour empêcher les gens de contribuer ! On marche vraiment sur la tête ! Mais ceux que ça gêne... préfèrent rester silencieux, veulent pas d'embrouille, veulent pas jouer au redresseur de torts, au chevalier blanc...

Oui, j'imagine bien que « c'est vraiment toi » comme chantait [[Téléphone]] ;D

++ [[User:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>]] [[User talk:Alvaro|☎]] 09:48, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:Bon, alors je ne vais pas répondre, n'ayant rien de spécialement spécial à ajouter ^^
:Mais... as-tu lu le dernier paragraphe de l'avis de Chandres dans l'arbitrage ouvert par Vol de nuit et que j'approuve ? En plus, j'ai l'impression que plus on joue le chevalier blanc, plus on se fait agresser, par tout le monde, pour trois mots écrits un peu de travers. Et se faire agresser, ce n'est pas ce que les nobles wikipédiens recherchent. --[[User:Moumine70|Moumine70]] ([[User talk:Moumine70|talk]]) 19:03, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::Non, je n'ai pas lu (je vais essayer d'y jeter un oeil) ; j'ai fait un drastique nettoyage de ma liste de suivi ; aucun Wikipédien, noble ou pas, cherche à se faire agresser. Eh oui, quand on ''joue'' le chevalier blanc, on se fait agresser ; résultat : aucun désaccord ne doit être exprimé :-( [[User talk:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>]] [[User:Alvaro/Saloon|'s saloon.]] 22:08, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

== Ola Alvaro !!!==
::Nice to see you !!! Pour employer le ''language'' des indigènes !! Va voir ma rép à ta note sur ma PdD - Trop cooooool de se retrouver ici, dans une '''vraie''' encyclo conviviale --Phil from Brussels 10:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Holalala but aca ça cause french ! Pas croyable ! yo no puedo crear ! jajajjajajajajja merci de l'accueil rapide et chaleureux ; je me sens déjà dans mes p'tits souliers tranquilles, bon je vous offre une p'tite tournée générale ; waou mon english écrit est un désastre.... Have a good time !--[[User:Butterfly voyages|Butterfly voyages]] ([[User talk:Butterfly voyages|talk]]) 16:58, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::::On en perd son latin :) Sinon, Alvaro, quand tu auras terminé toutes les rivières de France, tu pourras t'inspirer de cette devise lue sur la page d'un nouveau contributeur de fr: « Les ruisseaux deviennent des fleuves ». (En espérant toutefois que ce seront de longs fleuves tranquilles.) Bye ! [[User:Naevus|Naevus]] 19:13, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Hmmm... pas bien suivi ; doit y avoir un truc... euh... implicite ? [[User talk:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>]] [[User:Alvaro/Saloon|'s saloon.]] 22:11, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Non, le seul seul truc implicite qu'il pourrait y avoir, c'est que je trouve parfois heu... un peu ''dommage'' que tu consacres autant de temps aux articles de rivières et canaux sur la wiki anglophone. Je m'explique : d'une certaine manière, tout le monde peut faire le travail que tu fais sur les articles de la wiki anglophone, mais tout le monde ne peut pas forcément remplacer ta connaissance/expérience (appelle ça comme tu veux) de la wiki francophone. Autrement dit, si tu n'as pas le temps de rédiger tous les articles sur les sous-affluents de la Garonne, d'autres le feront; par contre tout le monde ne pourra pas remplacer l'expérience que tu as accumulée du fonctionnement de WP fr et les capacités de diplomatie/apaisement que tu y as déployées. Si je suis tombée de l'excès d'obscurité dans l'excès de franchise, sois indulgent, c'était [[Wikipedia:Assume good faith|de bonne foi]] :) [[User:Naevus|Naevus]] 10:54, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
¬ Oki, I uderstand much better ;D
#Je prends du plaisir à écrire ces articles ici (bien que vus seulement entre 50 et 100 fois par mois), c'est un truc à pas perdre de vue ; bien sûr, je préfèrerais bosser à l'amélioration de wp:fr, mais là... y'a pas l'obstacle de la langue ;D<ref>En moins cryptique : sur fr: je donne bcp plus facilement mon avis et je sors très vite des seuls articles ; alors que sur en: faut que je tourne 7 fois mon clavier dans ma main avant de me risquer ds une conversation.</ref> et ça me gonfle de contribuer à un projet où l'on peut se faire traiter en toute impunité de nuisible, menteur, con, surtout par des admins ! dont certains sont, par ailleurs, extrêmement pointilleux sur les ''attaques personnelles''.
#Ce que tu appelles mes connaissance, mon expérience, mes capacités de diplomatie/apaisement... les arbitres, grosso modo, ont appelé ça ''mon attitude qui consiste à me placer en position de...'', me l'ont reproché et m'ont même bloqué une semaine ! La vision que tu as de moi est peut-être partagée par pas mal de monde (?), en tout cas pas par tout le monde, surtout pas par une certaine bande de bruyants (avec des potes plus silencieux qui ne l'ouvrent que rarement, donc plus ''crédibles'')  !
Bref, si en: peut se passer de ''mes rivières'', fr: peut se passer tout autant de ''mon attitude''. Quant à ton excès de franchise, je n'en ai pas même vu l'esquisse de l'ombre ;D [[User talk:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>'s]][[User:Alvaro/Saloon| saloon.]] 14:10, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
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::*Sur le plaisir de contribuer. Rien à dire, ce qui sera moins long à lire :) Si, tout de même : j'ai vu des gens agressés se recentrer sur des sujets de prédilection (l'équivalent de tes rivières) ou, pour faire vite, des refuges intellectuels, et ne plus en sortir, parce qu'ils y étaient trop bien. Les grandes gueules ont fait la moitié du travail en les marginalisant, mais ils ont fait eux-mêmes l'autre moitié, si tu vois ce que je veux dire. (En réalité je ne pense pas que ça t'arriverait, mais le fait qu'on puisse contribuer soi-même à sa propre marginalisation est un truc pervers à ne pas perdre de vue.)
::*Sur l'avis des Wikipédiens, de la majorité. Serais-tu prêt à mettre la vision que tu as de toi aux voix, surtout si ce sont les plus bruyantes ou les plus nombreuses ? Note que je ne sais pas s'il y a une bonne réponse à cette question. En tout cas, on peut légitimement avoir l'ombre d'un doute :) [[User:Naevus|Naevus]] 11:18, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
*Ouf, thanks pour la concision de ta réponse quant au plaisir de contribuer ;D Oki avec toi sur ''l'auto-marginalisation'' mais bon, si en plus, une ''institution'', comme le CAr, marginalise qq1, reste plus grand chose à faire. Et puis, qd les grandes gueules parviennent à moitié marginaliser qq1, ne pas la fermer c'est se retrouver à 75% marginalisé ;D et quand on en a marre, soit on s'en va, soit on se marginalise tranquillement dans une ''niche écologique'', soit on se retrouve bloqué pour des motifs parfois à peine croyables.
*« Serais-je prêt à... » oui, mais comment faire ? ce n'est pas moi qu'il faut mettre aux voix, c'est ''ma vision''. Et ma vision, elle est déjà dans nos divers textes : dialogue, respect, consensus, cordialité... Perso, j'ai mis ma vision du truc (pas ma vision de moi) aux voix, en me (re)présentant comme arbitre, en mars dernier. Programme assez clair : « marre du 2 poids / 2 mesures ». Presque 50/50, mais courte majorité de « contre » ; et écrasante majorité, parmi les « contre », de ''Power Users''. Euh... à la réflexion, je viens de relire, et je n'ai pas vraiment compris cette phrase : « Serais-tu prêt à mettre la vision que tu as de toi aux voix, surtout si ce sont les plus bruyantes ou les plus nombreuses ? » Il faudrait que je mette ma vision de moi aux voix les plus bruyantes ou les plus nombreuses ? My brain is boiling ;D 
[[User talk:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>'s]][[User:Alvaro/Saloon| saloon.]] 13:14, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:Non, façon de dire qu'on peut voter sur une vision de l'encyclopédie, mais pas sur une personnalité (et pourtant par exemple la procédure d'appel à commentaire sur un contributeur se change parfois en vote sur une personnalité). Donc ne pas trop rester sur les reproches voire sur les ''ad hominem'' car en définitive et comme tu le dis plus haut, c'est bien sur le terrain du fonctionnement de Wikipédia que se joue le vrai débat. T'es libre, je ne te persécute pas plus longtemps :) [[User:Naevus|Naevus]] 17:41, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
*Merci pour la fin de la persécution ;D I thought you had a brilliant idea, « mettre aux voix... » unfortunately not :-(
*Ben oui, c'est con, de ''rester coincé'' sur de vieux trucs ; mais bon, qd j'interviens (en dehors de tte polémique) sur le bistro et que qq1 rappelle que le CAr « a demandé à Alvaro de réfléchir à son positionnement... » en clair, je ne peux plus rien dire ! que je reste, ou pas, coincé sur de vieux trucs.
*L'auto-marginalisation... elle est à l'oeuvre perpétuellement ; combien de gens, d'admins, ne participent <u>plus</u> sur le BA, combien de gens ne participent plus aux PàS ? aux débats sur les AdQ ? L'immense majorité des gens ne sont pas sur WP pour batailler et préfèrent ''battre en retraite'' face à des gens qui voient ça en terme de ''guerre'' ; oui, oui, j'ai vu l'expression écrite « si tu veux la guerre, tu l'auras. » Et quand on en a marre de ne plus participer à ça, à ça, puis à ça... on quitte WP, le plus souvent sans rien dire, l'écoeurement gagne petit à petit et il suffit d'un événement, très souvent insignifiant (au moins aux yeux des autres) pour faire déborder le vase.
[[User talk:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>'s]][[User:Alvaro/Saloon| saloon.]] 16:14, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
:Il y a peut-être quand même une solution: sur [[:fr:Wikipédia:Prise de décision/Changement de la dénomination d'administrateur (2)]], plusieurs personnes, qu'elles soient ''pour'', ''contre'' ou ''neutre'', pointent la nécessité de réfléchir sur les fonctions des administrateurs et l'étendue de leurs pouvoirs. La question des blocages et d'un rôle "éditorialiste" a été soulevée. La page de discussion se fait l'écho de ces interrogations ([[:fr:Discussion Wikipédia:Prise de décision/Changement de la dénomination d'administrateur (2)#D'abord réévaluer les fonctions de l'administrateur|là notamment]], [[:fr:Discussion Wikipédia:Prise de décision/Changement de la dénomination d'administrateur (2)#Terminologie et réalités : administrateurs, opérateurs... ou éditorialistes ?|et ici]], voir aussi [[:fr:Wikipédia:Sondage/Création d'un nouveau statut de technicien|ce sondage récent]]). 
:Or, il n'y a pas actuellement d'espace de réflexion ou de débat sur ces fonctions, leur définition et leur encadrement, alors qu'apparemment pas mal de personnes ont envie d'en parler (sur la pdd autour du nom d'opérateur, ce serait un peu hors-sujet et le vote a commencé). Une discussion communautaire serait sans doute utile pour clarifier la question. Sous quelle forme mener cette discussion ? Sondage ? Prise de décision, comme l'évoquaient certains si j'ai bonne mémoire ? En tout cas, il semble qu'il y ait un flou sur les pouvoirs liés au statut d'admin, ou bien des vues différentes, et la sortie du flou artistique passe peut-être par une discussion collective. [[User:Naevus|Naevus]] 17:40, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Oki, understood. Pas d'espace de réflexion... pas la peine, « tout va bien sur wpfr » et « on est là pour rédiger une encyclo ». En ce moment, sur fr: , on est dans la phase « tt le pouvoir aux admins », c-à-d, en réalité « tt le pouvoir à qq admins ». Une modification éventuelle, imho, ne peut que passer par une prise de conscience collective des + de 90% d'admins qui ne font pas partie de ces « qq admins ». [[User talk:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>'s]][[User:Alvaro/Saloon| saloon.]] 15:52, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

== Ailette ==

Hi Alvaro, what exactly do you want to do (if you can't express it in English, try French)? You can create an article about the lake if you like. From what I see on geoportail, the lake is actually called [[Lac de l'Ailette]] or Plan d'eau de l'Ailette. The article [[Le Lac d'Ailette]] is about a holiday village at the same lake, it doesn't look very notable to me, but well. [[User:Markussep|Markussep]] <sup>[[User talk:Markussep|Talk]]</sup> 15:09, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

:Hmmm, not sure, I think I'd rather keep them separate. [[User:Markussep|Markussep]] <sup>[[User talk:Markussep|Talk]]</sup> 15:36, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
==Hi - msge==
I just left a msge on your Fr PdD as well as on the Mo/Al Arbitrage's one. Just check out '''the mad moudjik''' not having removed/censored them. Cheers Phil ( ' forgot to log ! )  [[Special:Contributions/62.235.205.167|62.235.205.167]] ([[User talk:62.235.205.167|talk]]) 13:17, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
::J'ai pas bien saisi le pourquoi du comment (MdR translated Lol) de ta prop d'arbitrage Alvaro-Phil sur la page des témoignages ! C'est vrai que j'ai un peu planté sur la forme de la procédure en ne le mettant pas au bon endroit ( un autre l'avait aussi déjà fait avt moi ) mais moi y en a pas compris le sens, la portée de ta demande d'arbitrage Alvaro-Phil. J'ai dit/fait qq chose de pas correct à ton égard ? Si c'est le cas je m'en excuse mais j'vois pa koua ! Et puis, comment ferais-je pour y participer puisque je suis ''officiellement'' banni ? Faudra encore que j'emprunte des IP à des potes ... qui a tous les coups seront bloqués par la ''clique'' ! Profite bien de tes hollydays ( t'es remonté en Icelande pour tes vacs (Lol) ? ) Hasta + [[User:PHILTHEGUNNER60|--Phil from Brussels 10:23, 27 September 2009 (UTC)]]

== French Connection ==

Hi Alvaro, 

You may remember me as you welcomed me here in September. Since then, I mostly contributed to wp:fr because I find it's a good opportunity to practice my French (I live in Germany and work in English). My favorite subject is art, but there are not so many people around this subject in wp:fr. Would you know about French speakers contributing here but interested in art? It would be very kind of you of checking my latest contributions and giving me some advice. --[[User:Anneyh|Anneyh]] ([[User talk:Anneyh|talk]]) 16:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
:Aïe tooooo Alvaro !
:It depends on what kind of art, but… perhaps the Gunner :D
:Je ne faisais que passer. Ciao ! [[User:Wikinade|Wikinade]] ([[User talk:Wikinade|talk]]) 18:13, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
:: I currently focus on Medieval art and the Quattrocento (only 10 centuries). I'm a bit ashamed of the state of my [[:fr:Représentation des animaux dans l'art médiéval]] that I started during the latest Wikiconcours on wp:fr... --[[User:Anneyh|Anneyh]] ([[User talk:Anneyh|talk]]) 19:41, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Désolé, je ne pourrai pas trop t'aider ; 1) je ne mets plus trop les pieds sur wpfr 2) plus nul que moi dans n'importe quel domaine artistique, tu meurs ;D 3) tu devrais trouver des gens sympas et moins béotiens que moi sur wpfr. [[User talk:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>'s]][[User:Alvaro/Saloon| saloon.]] 15:09, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
:::: Merci quand même, j'ai fini par trouver deux élèves de l'École du Louvre. Je m'accroche à wpfr parce qu'en parlant anglais et allemand toute la journée. --[[User:Anneyh|Anneyh]] ([[User talk:Anneyh|talk]]) 17:09, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

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:Hi! I'm just letting you know that I've [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Pending_changes/Straw_poll&action=historysubmit&diff=383729357&oldid=383661063 undone] your [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Pending_changes/Straw_poll&diff=prev&oldid=383661063 addition] to [[Wikipedia:Pending changes/Straw poll]] because you added it after the poll was closed, at which time no more comments should be added. Regards, [[User:Airplaneman|<span style="color:blue;size=2">Airplaneman</span>]][[User talk:Airplaneman|<span style="color:#33dd44;size=2">  ✈</span>]] 22:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::Ok, if you think you can erase others' testimonies, that's good. [[User talk:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>]] 23:08, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:::''poll is closed; please do not modify it'' you say ; that's why I used the syntax <nowiki>''#:More a testimony''</nowiki>; so, I did not modify the poll. [[User talk:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>]] 23:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Modify means "edit" in this case. I or you can repost your comment at [[Wikipedia talk:Pending changes]], if you'd like. [[User:Airplaneman|<span style="color:blue;size=2">Airplaneman</span>]][[User talk:Airplaneman|<span style="color:#33dd44;size=2">  ✈</span>]] 23:17, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::No, thx. I think nobody cares about my testimony, not even me ;D [[User talk:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>]] 23:28, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::A last question: I did this way, because I saw that it was the syntax used for the addition by [[User:Od Mishehu]], who ''added it after the poll was closed, at which time no more comments should be added''; so, what did I wrong?  [[User talk:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>]] 23:46, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
{{od}}Well, the discussion did say not to add anything else to it; it was closed. When it's closed, that basically means "don't modify this page". Hope this clears things up; I was not looking to antagonize, and I'm sorry if I came across that way. Again, re-post at [[Wikipedia talk:Pending changes]] if you want. Best, [[User:Airplaneman|<span style="color:blue;size=2">Airplaneman</span>]][[User talk:Airplaneman|<span style="color:#33dd44;size=2">  ✈</span>]] 01:40, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

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==Ornière==
Alvaro, ''please'', ne tombez pas dans l'ornière des 3RR. Restez dans la page de discussion, il n'y a que là que l'affaire pourra se régler. Cordialement, 

--[[User:Frania Wisniewska|Frania W.]] ([[User talk:Frania Wisniewska|talk]]) 14:36, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
==[[Hibernation]]==
C'est silencieux, ici. Tu gardes des forces pour le printemps ? :) J'espère que le dégoût dont parle ta page sur Wiki-fr ne t'a pas rattrapé sur Wiki-en. Ici non plus, c'est pas le paradis. [[User:Naevus|Naevus]] 17:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

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== [[Phan Dinh Phung]] ==

I am more than a little surprised to see that you accepted an IP's revision to this article, given that I had previously rejected the same revision as an NPOV violation. There appears to be a dispute as to the historical facts involved, and [[WP:NPOV]], which is policy, requires that our article present both sides of such a dispute, rather than having Wikipedia editors themselves settle the historical question. Please also note that the Vietnamese Wikipedia's version of the event apparently reaches the opposite conclusion, although it does report both sides of the argument. [[User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|Hullaballoo Wolfowitz]] ([[User talk:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|talk]]) 23:20, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
:Thanks. I'll try to keep an eye on that talk page and see what develops. My French skills are pretty creaky, but my skills in Vietnamese are pretty much nonexistent. [[User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|Hullaballoo Wolfowitz]] ([[User talk:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|talk]]) 00:47, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

==Fr==
C'est toi qui as raison. Et je ne suis pas assez têtue. </br> Take care, [[User:Naevus|Naevus]] 21:01, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

== Battle of France ==

Hello Alvaro! [[File:smile.gif]]

Thank you for showing goodwill to contribute to the article [[Battle of France]]. Another discussion about the lead image is on-going and we would appreciate if you give us your point of view about a proposition of collage including the current photo and three others.
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Best regards. [[User:Mouloud47|Mouloud47]] ([[User talk:Mouloud47|talk]]) 17:28, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
==Just Hello==
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== hydronymy ==

I am interested in hydronymy as the language of prehistoric Europe is reflected therein. I left a message on the wikiproject rivers talkpage, just looking for editors with similar interests to exchange information.[[User:Aldrasto11|Aldrasto11]] ([[User talk:Aldrasto11|talk]]) 07:32, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

== You're welcome! ==


&nbsp;&nbsp; ([[You're welcome|... re your thank-you]] notification.) As an [[obsessive-compulsive]], i'd have found it hard ''not'' to do something about that garble. I was reasonably sure i'd gotten it right, but i'd hate to advocate that as an acceptable editing standard! I'll sleep better, for your having responded. [smile]<br><!--
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==Good work==
In reverting in August the many river name changes that a certain unknowing editor was making.  I don't know if you got all of them or noticed all the other wrongful renaming of articles that this editor is conducting. [[User:Hmains|Hmains]] ([[User talk:Hmains|talk]]) 02:58, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

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Bonday!

Tu are very difficile à finder, old chap. Je don't sais if je dois write to toi en french ou in anglais, therefore comme tu es a bit more active ici que sur fr:, I mélange les deux: happy anniversaire donc {{smiley|biggrin}} [[User:Litlok|Litlok]] ([[User talk:Litlok|talk]]) 07:26, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

:+1 Par-delà les années :') [[User:Naevus|Naevus]] 19:03, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Plop==
J'espère que tu vas bien. 
Ouaip, ça fait des années et j'ai presque oublié la syntaxe ici ;)... mais je voulais te dire que je pense encore souvent à l'Arbitrage. (Ou plus exactement, aux multiples arbitrages). Et avec le temps et le recul, eh bien... je pense toujours que ce que tu as fait était juste. 

Fallait que je le dise; c'est loin, mais pas oublié ;D

Amitiés [[User:Naevus|Naevus]] 23:25, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
:. Arf, le plop
:. Waouh, je réagis trop rapidement, ton message n'a même pas 6 mois d'âge ! ;D 
:. Donc, je vais bien ; où je vais… bah, comme tout le monde, à terme un nutriment
:. Les arbitrages… je n'y pense plus, sauf quand je tombe sur des souvenirs précis des susdits en sérendipitant sur l'encyclo, mais c'est rare. 
:. *Juste* ? Hmmm… probablement, bien que sans doute pas fait de manière optimum. J'ai été blessé par certains que je croyais des *bons* et avec qui je ne m'étais jamais pris la tête quand ils s'en sont pris à moi durant ces arbitrages, je ne comprenais pas. Depuis, j'ai appris l'existence d'une secte malfaisante, ça a cicatrisé mes blessures, mais reste la déception (et, toujours, l'incompréhension) de voir que des gens *très bien* peuvent faire passer des copinages (sans doute croisés dans la vraie vie) avant le projet auquel ils ont consacré tant d'énergie
:. Merci pour ton message, ça m'a fait plaisir et sourire (et zeugmer ;-)
:. Cordiamicalement, @+ [[User talk:Alvaro|Alvar<small>☮</small>]] 09:04, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
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== Bon anniversaire Alvaro ==
[[File:Smile (2734998878).jpg|thumb|left|Smile]]




Où que tu sois aujourd'hui, bon anniversaire à toi, cher parrain d'autrefois... S'il t'en souvient comme il m'en souvient de loin.

Amitiés --[[User:Bruinek|Bruinek]] ([[User talk:Bruinek|talk]]) 07:38, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

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