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==Useful stuff==

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*[[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ships)]]
*[[Ship prefix]]
::But please note that the GF II seems to be called just ''Gorch Fock'' (on the German Navy web site). In other places I have seen ''SSS Gorch Fock''&mdash;she does '''not''' use the NATO prefix "FGS"! "SSS" probably means "'''S'''egel'''s'''chul'''s'''chiff". The "FGS" prefix is reserved for modern warships of the German Navy. I'd just refer to her as ''Gorch Fock''; or maybe ''Gorch Fock (II)'', in places where confusions might otherwise arise. (They do the same on the German Navy web site!) [[User:Lupo|Lupo]] 08:31, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
*[http://www.sailtraining.de/links.php lots of links, English and German]
*[http://www.apparent-wind.com/sailing-page.html#tallships enormous list of links]
*[http://www.esys.org/bigship/bigship.html more links]

==To do==

===Gorch Fock (author)===
[[Gorch Fock (author)]] from [[:de:Gorch Fock (Schriftsteller)]]
:Done. [[User:Kosebamse|Kosebamse]] 09:11, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)


===Gorch Fock (ships)===

German tall ships. Ship type: [[Barque]]: square sails on fore and main mast; gaff rigged fore and aft sails on the mizzen.

*[[Tovarishch]] aka ''Gorch Fock I'' (article at [[Gorch Fock (1933)]]): Main article at GF I, Tovarishch as a redirect. Should also cover the other sister ships, which also would redirect to GF I. Or do separate pages on all or some of them?
** GF I done. (First draft) [[User:Lupo|Lupo]] 12:33, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
** Separate article on the ''[[USCG Eagle]]'' done. [[User:Lupo|Lupo]] 13:36, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)
*''Gorch Fock II'': article at [[Gorch Fock (1958)]] Covers the 1958 GF, with link to GF 1.

*[[Gorch Fock]] as a disambig page for the writer and the GF 1 and GF 2 article.
**Done (thanks to [[User:Stan Shebs]])

===Sources===

(most in [[German language|German]]):

*[http://www.uscg.mil/hq/eagle/first.htm USCG Eagle] (ex ''Horst Wessel''): U.S. governmental site of the U.S. Coast Guard; has pictures and info (in [[English language|English]]). Interestingly; http://www.uscg.mil/hq/eagle/ redirects to the [http://www.cga.edu/eagle/eagle.htm USCG Academy] web site... A [[public domain]] [http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/WEBCUTTERS/Eagle_1946.html text] from the U.S. Coast Guard also exists!
*[http://www.janmaat.de/towar.htm JanMaat] &mdash; Info on the Tovarishch.
*[http://www.janmaat.de/gfock.htm JanMaat] &mdash; Info on the Gorch Fock (II).

*[http://www.esys.org/gofo/ ESYS] &mdash; most comprehensive site. Also covers all the sister ships. Note that JanMaat is more up-to-date, especially concerning the ''Tovarishch''&mdash;ESYS doesn't cover the recent re-acquiry and planned rebaptising to ''Gorch Fock''. Still a lot of useful info at ESYS.

*[http://www.deutschemarine.de/80256B100061BA9B/vwContentFrame/N255AV3D386MMISDE German Navy] &mdash; official ''Gorch Fock (II)'' web site. Has info on her cruises, technical data, and history -> rewrite would make a good stub (will work on it, [[User:Kosebamse|Kosebamse]]; done now, [[User:Lupo|Lupo]] 13:28, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)). No pictures, and anyway, the whole site is copyrighted. (Well, one nice picture <nowiki>[click on the "Über die Gorch Fock" link]</nowiki> actually that I ([[User:Lupo|Lupo]]) would like to have. Maybe worth asking for permission?)

*Another image (the GF II in a storm) is here [http://www.sku-duesseldorf.de/mbxws/mbxwsg02.htm]. Might also be worth asking for permission. [[User:Lupo|Lupo]] 08:53, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I have asked the German Navy Publicity Office whether they could provide me with public domain or GFDL images of the two ''Gorch Fock''s. I'll report their answer here, when and if I get one. [[User:Lupo|Lupo]] 21:35, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
:Never got any answer. [[User:Lupo|Lupo]] 13:28, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

*[http://www.gorch-fock-stralsund.de/] : Info on the GF I (has been re-baptized to ''Gorch Fock'' on Nov 29, 2003).

===Images===

Note that all of the above web sites (except for the U.S. Coast Guard sites on the ''USCG Eagle'') are [[Wikipedia:Copyright|copyrighted]], and thus cannot serve as image sources!

However, here are a few useable images (fair use):

*[[:Image:Gorch Fock 2.jpg|Gorch Fock (II)]] (has the fair use rationale)
*[[:Image:GorchFock 2a.jpg|Gorch Fock (II)]]

*[[:Image:Gorch Fock 1.jpg|Gorch Fock (I)]] with fair use rationale.

*[[:Image:USCG Eagle.jpg|USCG Eagle]] (ex ''Horst Wessel''; public domain)
*[[:Image:Eagle Horst 1.jpg|Horst Wessel]] May 1938; public domain.

*[[:Image:Sagres II Opsail 2000 Crop.JPG|Sagres II]] at OpSail 2000 in [[New London, Connecticut]]; public domain.

Interesting side note: the ''Sagres I'' is the ''Rickmer Rickmers'', which is now a museum ship in [[Hamburg]].