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== Short description ==

Following up from discussion [[Wikipedia_talk:Short_description#User_pages|here]] with @[[User:Pbsouthwood|Pbsouthwood]], I'd like to add the [[WP:short description|short description]] "Wikipedia editor" to non-subpage user pages that have this template and don't have a different short description defined. Sandbox is [[Special:Diff/1052160383]]. Are there any concerns, or shall I implement? <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 18:37, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

:{{Done}}. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 23:40, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

== Template-protected edit request on 1 April 2022 ==
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For some reason, this template's currently coded so that one can't show both the Wiki'''pedia''' logo on the left ''and'' the Wiki'''media''' logo on the right. Can someone please fix that? -- [[User:PK2|PK2]] ([[User talk:PK2|talk]]) 09:03, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
:{{not done}} this ER isn't ready to go, feel free to mock up in [[Template:User page/sandbox]] , test, then reactivate. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 11:06, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
::I added <code>2</code> after <code>logo</code>, and <code>right</code> with <code>yes</code> in the <code>imageright</code> parameter, and I also added <code>-en</code> after <code>File:Wikipedia-logo-v2.svg</code> in the <code>image</code> parameter. Someone must have coded that particular part of this template incorrectly. -- [[User:PK2|PK2]] ([[User talk:PK2|talk]]) 01:00, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
:::{{done}}; another '''[[Template:User page/testcases#Standard with logo left and right|test case]]''' has been added. '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I.&nbsp;Ellsworth</span>]]'''''&numsp;-&nbsp;[[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<sup>put'r&nbsp;there</sup>]]&nbsp;<small>06:36, 5 April 2022 (UTC)</small>
:::{{to|PK2}} wouldn't say that the template had been coded "incorrectly". Before your edit, the template had been coded so that users could ''choose'' one of the two images to display. Your edit makes it possible for users to make both images appear. That's an "added feature" rather than a correction. The {{para|logo|right}} has been restored so as not to break existing usages. '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I.&nbsp;Ellsworth</span>]]'''''&numsp;-&nbsp;[[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<sup>put'r&nbsp;there</sup>]]&nbsp;<small>07:26, 5 April 2022 (UTC)</small>

== Template-protected edit request on 16 May 2022 ==

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Please remove the extra line break this template now forces before it on user talk pages after recent edits (not sure exactly which one caused the change); see my talk page for an example. The exact change to be made doesn't really matter, as long as the line break is removed. [[User:Modernponderer|Modernponderer]] ([[User talk:Modernponderer|talk]]) 19:30, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
:{{done}}<!-- Template:ETp --> I don't see a line break on my browser, but hopefully that is fixed for you now? &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 20:54, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

== Turning off short description ==

{{re|Fayenatic london}} I don't understand your recent edit — adding a short description to user pages was exactly the point, and it's been working successfully for months until you just turned it off. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 13:51, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
:It does not seem helpful for this template to put user pages into [[:Category:User pages with short description]], which is currently under discussion at [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 1#Category:User pages with short description]].  
:I thought it would be more useful to categorise just the user sandboxes that are draft articles (where the user had copied {{tl|short description}} from another page), excluding the main user pages. 
:How is the short description "Wikipedia editor" accessed or otherwise useful on a user page which transcludes this page header template? – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 16:28, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
::[[File:Search results.png|thumb|400px]] @[[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic london]], the purpose of short descriptions is outlined at [[WP:SHORTDESC]] — namely, it's to aid in search results. For instance, in the screenshot, my bot has a short description, which could potentially help novice editors better understand what it is, but my user page no longer does. I don't have any strong opinion about the category, other than that maintenance categories should serve our editing needs, not vice versa; the short description should be kept on its own merits rather than because it populates/depopulates some category. Are we good to cross back over to the right side of [[WP:FENCE|Chesterson's fence]]? <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 02:01, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
:::Thanks for explaining where you have seen it – I'd never seen that, as shortdesc is visible mainly in mobile view, and I use desktop mode rather than mobile. But if someone searches without typing "User:", then user pages will not come up in the search results; and if someone is typing "User:" then they already know they are searching for Wikipedia editors. And then, this standard short desc does not discriminate between search results e.g. by stating nationality, time zone or language. So what is the use of transcluding a short description via this template? – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 08:39, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic london]], the screenshot above is desktop (albeit [[WP:New Vector|New Vector]]), not mobile. On usefulness, you're right that the description isn't going to do much in most cases, but there's a small chance it'll help out someone, such as a newcomer who doesn't know that user = editor for this purpose (more newcomers than you might think), and that can be weighed against virtually zero downside. Overall, it just helps make the library of short descriptions more complete, which is something we should want if we've committed to it as a system. On making the description more specific by adding something like nationality, we could perhaps tackle that in an automated way in the future, but for now, because the <code><nowiki>noreplace</nowiki></code> parameter is used, if you add a more specific short description to your user page, that'll override the one this template generates.
::::Given all that, I'm going to restore the functionality per [[WP:BRD|BRD]]; if you have any other questions or thoughts, feel free to lmk and happy to discuss. Best, <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 00:32, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

== Template Use ==

How would one implement this/a template into their article or user page? Thanks so much! -J47k [[User:J47k|J47k]] ([[User talk:J47k|talk]]) 15:18, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
:{{replyto|J47k}} You don't put it in articles. It is only for use in user space (not necessarily on user pages), and the usage is given at [[Template:User page#Usage]]. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 22:16, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

== Edit request for dark mode compatibility ==

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 Kindly merge changes in [[Template:User page/sandbox]] for dark mode compat. —'''Matrix(!)''' <nowiki>{</nowiki>''[[User:Matrix|user]] - [[User talk:Matrix|talk?]] - [[Special:Contribs/Matrix|<sub><small><s>useless</s></small></sub>contributions]]''<nowiki>}</nowiki> 12:07, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}}<!-- Template:ETp --> [[User:Sohom Datta|<b class="skin-invert" style="color:#795cb2;">Sohom</b>]] ([[User talk:Sohom Datta|<span class="skin-invert" style="color: #36c;">talk</span>]]) 04:23, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
::I've reverted this because it wasn't displaying as centered on userpages.  Could this new color palette perhaps be included in an optional parameter?  ⇌ [[User talk:Jake Wartenberg|Jake Wartenberg]] 17:43, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I've fixed the issue and reapplied the change. [[User:Sohom Datta|<b class="skin-invert" style="color:#795cb2;">Sohom</b>]] ([[User talk:Sohom Datta|<span class="skin-invert" style="color: #36c;">talk</span>]]) 18:05, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
::::I've updated the documentation to reflect the new default values for the "border-c" and "background" parameters.  Just out of curiosity, why was it necessary to change the colors for compatibility with dark mode? ⇌ [[User talk:Jake Wartenberg|Jake Wartenberg]] 18:21, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Jake Wartenberg|Jake Wartenberg]] It's recommended per [[mw:Recommendations_for_night_mode_compatibility_on_Wikimedia_wikis]] to make the template play nice in vector22's dark mode (in some cases templates can be completely unreadable in the new dark mode if these styles are not applied.
:::::That being said, can you post a screenshot of the difference in color scheme you are seeing, this should have caused a major difference in visual appearance outside of vector22 and dark mode. [[User:Sohom Datta|<b class="skin-invert" style="color:#795cb2;">Sohom</b>]] ([[User talk:Sohom Datta|<span class="skin-invert" style="color: #36c;">talk</span>]]) 18:46, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::I don't know if it's a ''major'' difference, but you can compare the [[User:Jake Wartenberg|original]] and {{oldid|User:Jake Wartenberg|1039079476|current}} appearance of the template on my userpage.  ⇌ [[User talk:Jake Wartenberg|Jake Wartenberg]] 19:00, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I took a look and made some changes, it should now display in the old color scheme for non v22 users. [[User:Sohom Datta|<b class="skin-invert" style="color:#795cb2;">Sohom</b>]] ([[User talk:Sohom Datta|<span class="skin-invert" style="color: #36c;">talk</span>]]) 13:08, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Seems to be working!  I took a shot at updating the documentation after your previous edit.  You may wish to do so again now that the color is different depending on the skin being used.  ⇌ [[User talk:Jake Wartenberg|Jake Wartenberg]] 16:15, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
===Slight tweak may be needed===
I just had to implement [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AJimbo_Wales&diff=1276248034&oldid=1275003197 this workaround] at Jimbo's user page to fix this template's display in dark mode when a color was not specified. Is there a tweak to the defaults of this template that would have made my edit unnecessary? – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 19:40, 17 February 2025 (UTC)