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Note: Any changes made to this template's content needs to be checked as workable in the tables on the references which include it directly:
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== Purpose ==
::And what exactly is this template for? Promoting higher bandwidth usage? [[User:Halibutt|Halibu]][[User talk:Halibutt|tt]] 22:11, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

:::I found it useful.  I'm categorizing redirects for an eventual paper edition, and was able to use the template to put all ASCII redirects into [[:Category:Unprintworthy redirects]], since "See: Spelled exactly the same, minus the dots and squiggles" in an alphebatized print volume is a waste of space.  That's just my hack of the system, tho': the real reson d'ee of this template is that categories & text appended to redirects are automatically deleted if they're not all on the same line as the redirect itself.  The template allows an easy escape from this quirk of the system.--[[User:Polyparadigm|Joel]] 23:49, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

== Description ==
I'm going to un-link the word [[diacritic]].  There's simply no need for the diacritic page to have thousands of "What Links Here" references to redirects that are '''not''' about diacritics (by definition).  Anybody that's confused about the meaning of the word can easily look at the category page.  Same for "See also".
:--[[User:William Allen Simpson|William Allen Simpson]] 12:04, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I've finished converting all those miscategorized here to {{tl|R from title without diacritics}}.  Hopefully, the better explanations will help folks use the templates. 
:--[[User:William Allen Simpson|William Allen Simpson]] 16:47, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== Deprecated ==

Hi, using templates within redirects is deprecated, so the <nowiki>{{R from...}}</nowiki> templates shouldn't be used anymore, although categories in redirects are probably safe. See [[Wikipedia_talk:Redirect#Content_of_redirects:_templates.2C_categories.2C_multiple_lines|discussion]]. [[User:Wmahan|Wmahan]][[User talk:Wmahan|.]] 05:16, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

== Template & /doc code needs fixing ==

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Hi- I think there are errors in the code, some of the categories on the /doc pg need to be in "includeonly" on the template page. The ones in "includeonly" on the /doc pg would only categorize the template, not its transclusions, right? --[[User:Funandtrvl|Funandtrvl]] ([[User talk:Funandtrvl|talk]]) 20:11, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
:Should be fixed now. <span style="font-family:verdana"> — [[User:Edokter|<b style="color:#008"><i>E</i>dokter</b>]] • [[User_talk:Edokter|<span style="color:#080">Talk</span>]] — </span> 20:43, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

== Update needed ==

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'''Withdrawn.''' &ndash;&nbsp;'''''<small>[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:Segoe Script">Paine Ellsworth</span>]]</small>'''''&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<b style="font-size:x-small; color:blue;">''C<small>LIMAX</small>!''</b>]]</sup> 00:55, 1 September 2013 (UTC) <br />
<s>To ensure that only mainspace redirects are sorted into [[:Category:Unprintworthy redirects]], the line in '''<span class="plainlinks">[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:R_from_ASCII&action=edit this Rcat]</span>''' that contains that category needs to be updated.  Please modify that line as follows:</s>
* from this...
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[[Category:Unprintworthy redirects]]
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* to this...
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{{Main other|[[Category:Unprintworthy redirects]]}}
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Thank you in advance! &ndash;&nbsp;'''''<small>[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:Segoe Script">Paine Ellsworth</span>]]</small>'''''&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<b style="font-size:x-small; color:blue;">''C<small>LIMAX</small>!''</b>]]</sup> 13:25, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
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I shall leave this to administrator discretion...
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{{Main other|[[Category:Redirects from titles with ASCII]]
[[Category:Unprintworthy redirects]]}}
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Perhaps this should be a mainspace-only template for both categories? &ndash;&nbsp;'''''<small>[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:Segoe Script">Paine Ellsworth</span>]]</small>'''''&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<b style="font-size:x-small; color:blue;">''C<small>LIMAX</small>!''</b>]]</sup> 01:44, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
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== Proper usage ==
{{Help me-helped}}
'''I've missed something, haven't I?''' – 18:35, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
:Well, heck – I hate to make this more complicated, but I looked at the pages that link here by transclusion, and I don't see any ASCII code in any of those titles in the first 1000 pages.  Am I missing something? &ndash;&nbsp;'''''<small>[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:Segoe Script">Paine Ellsworth</span>]]</small>'''''&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<b style="font-size:x-small; color:blue;">''C<small>LIMAX</small>!''</b>]]</sup> 12:42, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
* Hello there {{U|Paine Ellsworth}}.  This template is often misused (although, technically, I guess every latin character is [[ASCII]].  Feel free to clean up the category or whatnot. :) I'll be watching this page if you need further assistance. Happy editing! [[User:Technical 13|Technical 13]] ([[User talk:Technical 13|talk]]) 19:04, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
*:Thank you and to be frank with you, Tech, I know what basic ASCII looks like.  It's a 7-bit code of ones and zeros, and perhaps that was needed long ago.  From the looks of things, I feel like deprecating this template and slapping a history tag or template on it.  What's your take on this? &ndash;&nbsp;'''''<small>[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:Segoe Script">Paine Ellsworth</span>]]</small>'''''&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<b style="font-size:x-small; color:blue;">''C<small>LIMAX</small>!''</b>]]</sup> 20:22, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
*:: I would personally support it, but it appears this template has survived a TfD before, so it should probably be brought back to TfD for consensus before deleting. [[User:Technical 13|Technical 13]] ([[User talk:Technical 13|talk]]) 20:40, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
*::: Fully agree.  And I shall begin the process. &ndash;&nbsp;'''''<small>[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:Segoe Script">Paine Ellsworth</span>]]</small>'''''&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<b style="font-size:x-small; color:blue;">''C<small>LIMAX</small>!''</b>]]</sup> 00:21, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
*::: [[Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/Not deleted/August 2005]], previously listed with several others. 00:36, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

== Page move ==

{{to|HJ Mitchell}} – wonder if you could do me a favor and lower the move protection to include template editors or, if you feel this template should retain its full move protection, would you be so kind as to move this template as follows?

{{tl|R from ASCII}} → {{tl|R from ASCII-only}}

This uncontroversial move is to a name that is more descriptive and coincides with a proposal to move the category in [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 16#Category:Redirects to titles with ASCII|this discussion]].  I've already moved {{tl|R to ASCII}} → {{tl|R to ASCII-only}}, and if you decide to move this page yourself, I shall be happy to make the followup /doc, /sandbox moves and fix any double redirects. –&nbsp;''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<b style="font-size:85%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">Paine</b>]]''&nbsp; 08:04, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|Paine Ellsworth}} I've lowered the protection. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]] 18:14, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
::You? the Greatest! and the pink full-protection notice still existed on the move page, yet I was able to rename it anyway.  Thank you very much, [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]]! –&nbsp;''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<b style="font-size:85%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">Paine</b>]]''&nbsp; 18:38, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

== Template-protected edit request on 30 September 2017 ==

{{edit template-protected|Template:R from ASCII-only|answered=y}}
Append to the "{{!}}to{{=}}" parameter that <code><nowiki>they are ''not'' [[Typographic ligature|ligatures]] – use {{tl|R to ligature}} ''instead''</nowiki></code>. [[User:Wumbolo|Wumbolo]] ([[User talk:Wumbolo|talk]]) 15:50, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
:{{ping|Wumbolo}} {{Done}}. Had to rewrite the whole line a bit to be easy to parse. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] &gt;<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>&lt; </span> 06:43, 1 October 2017 (UTC)