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== Unchanged background color in dark mode for captions of embedded Wikimedia Commons files ==

Switching to dark mode changes the specified background colour for the quote-box text (parameter: bgcolor) to black, but that for the Wikimedia file-caption text (parameter: background-color) remains unaffected. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wichita_Lineman#Background_and_content [[User:Birdman euston|Birdman euston]] ([[User talk:Birdman euston|talk]]) 02:49, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
:On closer examination, the specified background colour of the file-caption text does change in dark mode, but to white not black. [[User:Birdman euston|Birdman euston]] ([[User talk:Birdman euston|talk]]) 02:58, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
::The background color of the file caption is explicitly set to "background-color:AliceBlue;" in a div tag in that article. I removed it, and dark mode works fine. I don't think this has anything to do with the quote box template. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 19:22, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Thanks - it's a Wikimedia file causing the problem, to be sure. Since editors often embed them in Wikipedia quote boxes, it's worth noting here that Wikimedia files' non-default background colours are apparently not (fully) compatible with Wikipedia's dark mode at present. [[User:Birdman euston|Birdman euston]] ([[User talk:Birdman euston|talk]]) 06:02, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
::::I am aware of problems with transparent SVG files, but I don't see anything wrong with the file on that page in dark mode, now that the custom caption background color has been removed. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 14:13, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

== Font size is too small ==

The font size is terrible, I have to squint my eyes. It is 88%, which is on the brink of the allowed size in [[MOS:SMALLFONT]], 85%. Quote text is ''not'' secondary text in Wikipedia, readers will absolutely want to read it in full, so there is no valid reason to make it ''this'' small.

I suggest to increase to at least 13px (~93%) on Vector. [[User:JWBTH|Jack who built the house]] ([[User:JWBTH|talk]]) 13:13, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
:I agree with using a higher font-size percentage, but [[Template_talk:Quote_box/Archive_3#Font_size|when I tried to take the font size to 100%]] for accessibility, the pitchforks came out and I reverted the change. Maybe 93% would have more support. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 14:08, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
::I thought this had been fixed but I guess I just haven't encountered a quote box template in a while.
::Where's a better, larger place to have this discussion, if the obscurity of this talk page was one of the main objections last time around? [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Text formatting]]? [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Accessibility]]? [[User:Belbury|Belbury]] ([[User talk:Belbury|talk]]) 11:24, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
:::The best place is here, with notices at other talk pages. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 14:39, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

== Template-protected edit request on 9 December 2024 ==

{{edit template-protected|Template:Quote box/styles.css|answered=yes}}
{{td|.quotebox cite {{(}} display:block;|.quotebox cite {{(}}}}

This fixes {{t|reflist}}. There was an extra newline between the backlink and the citation.

{{re|TheDJ}} I don't see why <code>display:block</code> was [[Special:Diff/854601633|added]]. The problem affects the bottom half list items in the boxes in [[Special:Permalink/1262028604#Necessary_repetition|WP:REPEATCITATION]]. [[Special:Contributions/172.97.141.219|172.97.141.219]] ([[User talk:172.97.141.219|talk]]) 08:28, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

:What do you mean, the template realist doesn't use quotebox ? —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 09:16, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::Ah I see what you mean now. The page [[WP:REPEATCITATION]] should not be using template quote box. It is not making a quote, it is giving an example, and usage of the quote box template in way for which it was not designed, is likely to create problems like this. —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 09:19, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I chose to use {{t|qb}} over {{t|qf}} to avoid adding padding that wasn't there. {{t|box}} doesn't work in dark mode, whose fixing was my goal. What should we use on [[WP:Citation overkill]], [[WP:Citation underkill]] and [[WP:Contort the citations]]?
:::If {{tq|in way for which it was not designed}}, why is <code>cite</code> in the templatestyles? The previous wikitext used {{xtag|blockquote}} with night-mode-unfriendly inline CSS, so the previous author probably somewhat considered it to be a "quote". [[Special:Contributions/172.97.141.219|172.97.141.219]] ([[User talk:172.97.141.219|talk]]) 09:22, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::I mean <code><nowiki>{{qb|1=<ref>{{citation|title=test}}</ref>{{reflist}}}}</nowiki></code> should have "test" on the same line. [[Special:Contributions/172.97.141.219|172.97.141.219]] ([[User talk:172.97.141.219|talk]]) 09:20, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Please do not misuse the quote box template. I have fixed the dark mode display on [[WP:REPEATCITATION]]. You might want to read more about how to fix dark mode problems at [[:mw:Help:Lint_errors/night-mode-unaware-background-color]] and similar pages. You can ask for help at [[WP:VPT]]. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 14:16, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::::I saw your change and propagated it to [[WP:Citation underkill]] and [[WP:Contort the citations]].
::::I read the suggested [[mw:Help:Lint_errors/night-mode-unaware-background-color]]. It seems to be telling me to add <code>color:black;</code>. However, the problematic text was already black, and your good solution was to remove <code>background:white;</code>. Which part of that page, that when read, applied to [[WP:REPEATCITATION]]?
::::I thought deduplicating styles from 3 pages using {{t|qb}} was a good idea, but since 2 people said this is misuse, I went over to [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Template_for_example_article_rendering|WP:VPT]] to ask for a template. [[Special:Contributions/172.97.141.219|172.97.141.219]] ([[User talk:172.97.141.219|talk]]) 15:00, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::[[:mw:Help:Lint errors/night-mode-unaware-background-color#Quick start]] shows how to fix background that are transparent or inherited. In this case, background:white was similar to background:transparent, so I removed it. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 19:05, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::I added your idea with the {{tq|remove}} word to [https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Lint_errors/night-mode-unaware-background-color&diff=prev&oldid=6896851 that page]. [[Special:Contributions/172.97.141.219|172.97.141.219]] ([[User talk:172.97.141.219|talk]]) 03:36, 10 December 2024 (UTC)