View source for Template talk:Iso1

{| align="right" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" border="1" style="text-align:center; border:none; border-collapse:separate; empty-cells:hide;"
|-
|{{Iso1|10|[[Exotic helium isotopes|He]]}}
|{{Iso1|11|Li}}
|{{Iso1|12|Be}}
|{{Iso1|13|B }}
|{{Iso1|14|[[Carbon-14|C]]|O}}
|{{Iso1|15|N |R}}
|{{Iso1|16|O |R}}
|{{Iso1|17|F }}
|{{Iso1|18|Ne}}
|{{Iso1|19|Na}}
|{{Iso1|20|Mg}}
|<br>
|-
!colspan="12"|...
|-
|{{Iso1|18|B }}
|{{Iso1|19|C }}
|{{Iso1|20|N }}
|{{Iso1|21|O }}
|{{Iso1|22|F }}
|{{Iso1|23|Ne}}
|{{Iso1|24|Na}}
|{{Iso1|25|Mg|R}}
|{{Iso2|26|Al|Y}}
|{{Iso1|27|Si}}
|{{Iso1|28|P }}
|{{Iso1|29|S }}
|}

== Instructions for using templates in the isotope table ==

The [[isotope table (complete)|isotope table]] article has caused trouble for several users because it is too big for certain web browsers' editors (more than 90 kB), e.g. typographical errors have been introduced by the software. Partly to reduce file size (less than 45 kB) and partly to make the isotope table easier to edit, a few templates have been introduced for use in this article.

Here are instructions for using the templates, plus an excerpt from the isotope table code and a demonstration of what the isotope table will look like. See for instance the links to Tritium and Carbon-14, and the two-coloured cell of Al-26.

=== Using the templates ===

{| border="1" cellpadding="2" width="95%"
|-
! width="5%" rowspan="2" valign="bottom" | Template
| width="15%" | '''Syntax'''
| width="75%" | '''Effective text'''
|-
! colspan="2" | Explanation and comments
|-
! rowspan="3" | {{tl|Iso1}}
| <nowiki>{{Iso1|Nr|Symbol|X}}</nowiki>
| <nowiki>title="{{Iso/X/text}}" style="background:{{Iso/X}};" | <small><sup>Nr</sup></small>Symbol</nowiki>
|-
| <nowiki>{{Iso1|Nr|Symbol}}</nowiki>
| <nowiki>title="Unstable" style="background:white;" | <small><sup>Nr</sup></small>Symbol</nowiki>
|-
| colspan="2" | <p align="center"> '''One-coloured cells''' </p><p> '''X''' is member of "ROYGBIV-" and represents a red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet or white background colour of a whole table cell. If X is omitted, the colour defaults to white. </p><p> '''Nr''' and '''Symbol''' represent atomic number and chemical symbol and are rendered as <small><sup>Nr</sup></small>Symbol. Symbol may contain links, e.g. <code><nowiki>[[Helium-4|He]]</nowiki></code> is rendered as [[Helium-4|He]]. </p>
|-
! rowspan="3" | {{tl|Iso2}}
| <nowiki>{{Iso2|Nr|Symbol|X|Z}}</nowiki>
| <nowiki>title="Isotope: {{Iso/X/text}}; Nuclear isomer: {{Iso/Z/text}}" style="background:{{Iso/Z}};" | <div style="background:{{Iso/X}};"> <small><sup>Nr</sup></small>Symbol</div></nowiki>
|-
| <nowiki>{{Iso2|Nr|Symbol|X}}</nowiki>
| <nowiki>title="Isotope: {{Iso/X/text}}; Nuclear isomer: Unstable" style="background:white;" | <div style="background:{{Iso/X}};"> <small><sup>Nr</sup></small>Symbol</div></nowiki>
|-
| colspan="2" | <p align="center"> '''Two-coloured cells''' </p><p> '''X''' and '''Z''' are members of "ROYGBIV-" as mentioned above. X is the background colour of the text, and Z is the border colour of the table cell. If Z is omitted, the border defaults to white. </p><p> '''Nr''' and '''Symbol''' are the same as above. </p><p> In principle this template could be used for both one- and two-coloured cells. However, this template yields more text than the first one, calls the double number of sub-templates, and also displays misleading popup titles if used in one-coloured cells. Therefore it should only be used when there is actually a need for two colours. </p>
|-
| colspan="3" | The following templates are generally not used independently, but are called by Iso1 and Iso2 using the variables X and Z:
* '''{{tl|Iso/R}}, {{tl|Iso/O}}, {{tl|Iso/Y}}, {{tl|Iso/G}}, {{tl|Iso/B}}, {{tl|Iso/I}}, {{tl|Iso/V}},''' and '''{{tl|Iso/-}}''' contain colour codes, e.g. red is <code>{{Iso/R}}</code>
* '''{{tl|Iso/R/text}}, {{tl|Iso/O/text}}, {{tl|Iso/Y/text}}, {{tl|Iso/G/text}}, {{tl|Iso/B/text}}, {{tl|Iso/I/text}}, {{tl|Iso/V/text}},''' and '''{{tl|Iso/-/text}}''' contain legends to the colours, e.g. the legend to yellow is "{{Iso/Y/text}}"
|}

==== How the colors are assigned ====

{| class = "wikitable"
!category || color
!category || color
|-
| - || {{Iso1|||-}}
| V || {{Iso1|||V}}
|-
| I || {{Iso1|||I}}
| B || {{Iso1|||B}}
|-
| G || {{Iso1|||G}}
| Y || {{Iso1|||Y}}
|-
| O || {{Iso1|||O}}
| R || {{Iso1|||R}}
|}

==== Adding a drip line ====
Whereever you want to add the proton or neutron drip line to the chart, add the option <code>|drip=</code> with one of the values <samp>t</samp> (top), <samp>r</samp> (right), <samp>tr</samp> (top-right), <samp>tl</samp> (top-left), <samp>trb</samp> (top-right-bottom), <samp>tb</samp> (top-bottom), <samp>tlr</samp> (top-left-right), <samp>b</samp> (bottom), <samp>l</samp> (left), <samp>bl</samp> (bottom-left), <samp>br</samp> (bottom-right), <samp>blr</samp> (bottom-left-right), <samp>lr</samp> (left-right), or <samp>tlb</samp> (top-left-bottom) to the cell template Iso1 or Iso2, as demonstrated in the example below. ''To avoid confusion, only specify drip lines from inner cells''.

<samp><nowiki>
{{Iso2|1070|Uxq|O|drip=trb}}
</nowiki></samp>
{| class="wikitable"
| {{Iso2|1070|Uxq|O|drip=trb}}
|}
Or in empty cells:
<samp><nowiki>
{{Iso1|drip=bl}}
</nowiki></samp>
{| class="wikitable"
| {{Iso1||&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|drip=bl}}
|}

=== Explanation of background colours ===

{| align="right" style="background:transparent;"
|-
| {{isotope colour chart}}
|-
| {{isotope colour chart | background:pink; font-style:italic;}}
|}

The background colour of each isotope's cell indicates the isotope's physical [[half-life]]. See colour chart to the right. Differently coloured borders indicate half-lives of the most stable [[nuclear isomer]] states.

To insert this colour chart in an article, add the following tag:

:'''<code><nowiki>{{isotope colour chart}}</nowiki></code>'''

The template takes an optional, nameless parameter that may be used to add styles such as table width or font effects, or override the default styles. The styles are given as a semicolon-separated list using colon as the assignment operator, e.g.:

:<code>background:pink; font-style:italic;</code>

The parameter is separated from the template name with a pipe ("|"), and the full template call becomes:

:'''<code><nowiki>{{isotope colour chart | background:pink; font-style:italic;}}</nowiki></code>'''

The result is shown to the lower right.


=== Excerpt from the isotope table code ===

{| width="40%"
|<pre>
 {| cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" border="1" width="100%"
 |+ '''List of known [[isotope]]s'''
 |-
 ![[proton|p]] &rarr;
 !1
 !2
 ...
 |-
 !2
 |{{Iso1|3|[[Tritium|T]]|O}}
 |{{Iso1|4|[[Helium-4|He]]|R}}
 |{{Iso1|5|Li}}
 |{{Iso1|6|Be}}
 |{{Iso1|7|B }}
 |{{Iso1|8|C }}
 ![[Nitrogen|N]]
 !8
 |-
 !3
 |{{Iso1|4|[[Hydrogen-4|H]]}}
 |{{Iso1|5|[[Exotic helium isotopes|He]]}}
 |{{Iso1|6|Li|R}}
 |{{Iso1|7|Be|I}}
 |{{Iso1|8|B }}
 |{{Iso1|9|C }}
 |{{Iso1|10|N }}
 ![[Oxygen|O]]
 !9
 ...
 |-
 |
 !8
 |{{Iso1|10|[[Exotic helium isotopes|He]]}}
 |{{Iso1|11|Li}}
 |{{Iso1|12|Be}}
 |{{Iso1|13|B }}
 |{{Iso1|14|[[Carbon-14|C]]|O}}
 |{{Iso1|15|N |R}}
 |{{Iso1|16|O |R}}
 |{{Iso1|17|F }}
 |{{Iso1|18|Ne}}
 |{{Iso1|19|Na}}
 |{{Iso1|20|Mg}}
 ![[Aluminium|Al]]
 !14
 ...
 |-
 |colspan="4"|
 !13
 |{{Iso1|18|B }}
 |{{Iso1|19|C }}
 |{{Iso1|20|N }}
 |{{Iso1|21|O }}
 |{{Iso1|22|F }}
 |{{Iso1|23|Ne}}
 |{{Iso1|24|Na}}
 |{{Iso1|25|Mg|R}}
 |{{Iso2|26|Al|Y}}
 |{{Iso1|27|Si}}
 |{{Iso1|28|P }}
 |{{Iso1|29|S }}
 |
 ![[Argon|Ar]]
 !19
 ...
 |}
</pre>
|}

=== Excerpt from the isotope table ===

{| cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" border="1" width="60%" style="text-align:center; border:none; border-collapse:separate; empty-cells:hide;"

|-
![[proton|p]] &rarr;
!1
!2

|-
![[Neutron|n]] &darr;
![[Hydrogen|H]]
![[Helium|He]]
!3
!4

|-
!0
|{{Iso1|1|[[Protium|H]]|R}}
|
![[Lithium|Li]]
![[Beryllium|Be]]
!5
!6

|-
!1
|{{Iso1|2|[[Deuterium|D]]|R}}
|{{Iso1|3|[[Helium-3|He]]|R}}
|{{Iso1|4|Li}}
|{{Iso1|5|Be}}
![[Boron|B]]
![[Carbon|C]]
!7

|-
!2
|{{Iso1|3|[[Tritium|T]]|O}}
|{{Iso1|4|[[Helium-4|He]]|R}}
|{{Iso1|5|Li}}
|{{Iso1|6|Be}}
|{{Iso1|7|B }}
|{{Iso1|8|C }}
![[Nitrogen|N]]
!8

|-
!3
|{{Iso1|4|[[Hydrogen-4|H]]}}
|{{Iso1|5|[[Exotic helium isotopes|He]]}}
|{{Iso1|6|Li|R}}
|{{Iso1|7|Be|I}}
|{{Iso1|8|B }}
|{{Iso1|9|C }}
|{{Iso1|10|N }}
![[Oxygen|O]]
!9

|-
!4
|{{Iso1|5|[[Hydrogen-5|H]]}}
|{{Iso1|6|[[Exotic helium isotopes|He]]}}
|{{Iso1|7|Li|R}}
|{{Iso1|8|Be}}
|{{Iso1|9|B }}
|{{Iso1|10|C }}
|{{Iso1|11|N }}
|{{Iso1|12|O }}
![[Fluorine|F]]
!10

|-
!5
|{{Iso1|6|[[Hydrogen-6|H]]}}
|{{Iso1|7|[[Exotic helium isotopes|He]]}}
|{{Iso1|8|Li}}
|{{Iso1|9|Be|R}}
|{{Iso1|10|B |R}}
|{{Iso1|11|C }}
|{{Iso1|12|N }}
|{{Iso1|13|O }}
|{{Iso1|14|F }}
![[Neon|Ne]]
!11

|-
!6
|{{Iso1|7|[[Hydrogen-7|H]]}}
|{{Iso1|8|[[Exotic helium isotopes|He]]}}
|{{Iso1|9|Li}}
|{{Iso1|10|Be|O}}
|{{Iso1|11|B |R}}
|{{Iso1|12|[[Carbon-12|C]]|R}}
|{{Iso1|13|N }}
|{{Iso1|14|O }}
|{{Iso1|15|F }}
|{{Iso1|16|Ne}}
![[Sodium|Na]]
!12

|-
|
!7
|{{Iso1|9|[[Exotic helium isotopes|He]]}}
|{{Iso1|10|Li}}
|{{Iso1|11|Be}}
|{{Iso1|12|B }}
|{{Iso1|13|[[Carbon-13|C]]|R}}
|{{Iso1|14|[[Nitrogen-14|N]]|R}}
|{{Iso1|15|O }}
|{{Iso1|16|F }}
|{{Iso1|17|Ne}}
|{{Iso1|18|Na}}
![[Magnesium|Mg]]
!13

|-
|
!8
|{{Iso1|10|[[Exotic helium isotopes|He]]}}
|{{Iso1|11|Li}}
|{{Iso1|12|Be}}
|{{Iso1|13|B }}
|{{Iso1|14|[[Carbon-14|C]]|O}}
|{{Iso1|15|N |R}}
|{{Iso1|16|O |R}}
|{{Iso1|17|F }}
|{{Iso1|18|Ne}}
|{{Iso1|19|Na}}
|{{Iso1|20|Mg}}
![[Aluminium|Al]]
!14

|-
|colspan="2"|
!9
|{{Iso1|12|Li}}
|{{Iso1|13|Be}}
|{{Iso1|14|B }}
|{{Iso1|15|C }}
|{{Iso1|16|N }}
|{{Iso1|17|O |R}}
|{{Iso1|18|F }}
|{{Iso1|19|Ne}}
|{{Iso1|20|Na}}
|{{Iso1|21|Mg}}
|{{Iso1|22|Al}}
![[Silicon|Si]]
!15

|-
|colspan="3"|
!10
|{{Iso1|14|Be}}
|{{Iso1|15|B }}
|{{Iso1|16|C }}
|{{Iso1|17|N }}
|{{Iso1|18|O |R}}
|{{Iso1|19|F |R}}
|{{Iso1|20|Ne|R}}
|{{Iso1|21|Na}}
|{{Iso1|22|Mg}}
|{{Iso1|23|Al}}
|
![[Phosphorus|P]]
!16

|-
|colspan="3"|
|
!11
|{{Iso1|16|B }}
|{{Iso1|17|C }}
|{{Iso1|18|N }}
|{{Iso1|19|O }}
|{{Iso1|20|F }}
|{{Iso1|21|Ne|R}}
|{{Iso1|22|Na|B}}
|{{Iso1|23|Mg}}
|{{Iso1|24|Al}}
|{{Iso1|25|Si}}
|
![[Sulfur|S]]
!17

|-
|colspan="4"|
!12
|{{Iso1|17|B }}
|{{Iso1|18|C }}
|{{Iso1|19|N }}
|{{Iso1|20|O }}
|{{Iso1|21|F }}
|{{Iso1|22|Ne|R}}
|{{Iso1|23|Na|R}}
|{{Iso1|24|Mg|R}}
|{{Iso1|25|Al}}
|{{Iso1|26|Si}}
|{{Iso1|27|P }}
|
![[Chlorine|Cl]]
!18

|-
|colspan="4"|
!13
|{{Iso1|18|B }}
|{{Iso1|19|C }}
|{{Iso1|20|N }}
|{{Iso1|21|O }}
|{{Iso1|22|F }}
|{{Iso1|23|Ne}}
|{{Iso1|24|Na}}
|{{Iso1|25|Mg|R}}
|{{Iso2|26|Al|Y}}
|{{Iso1|27|Si}}
|{{Iso1|28|P }}
|{{Iso1|29|S }}
|
![[Argon|Ar]]
!19

|-
|colspan="4"|
!14
|{{Iso1|19|B }}
|{{Iso1|20|C }}
|{{Iso1|21|N }}
|{{Iso1|22|O }}
|{{Iso1|23|F }}
|{{Iso1|24|Ne}}
|{{Iso1|25|Na}}
|{{Iso1|26|Mg|R}}
|{{Iso1|27|Al|R}}
|{{Iso1|28|Si|R}}
|{{Iso1|29|P }}
|{{Iso1|30|S }}
|{{Iso1|31|Cl}}
|
![[Potassium|K]]
!20

|-
|colspan="5"|
!15
|{{Iso1|21|C }}
|{{Iso1|22|N }}
|{{Iso1|23|O }}
|{{Iso1|24|F }}
|{{Iso1|25|Ne}}
|{{Iso1|26|Na}}
|{{Iso1|27|Mg}}
|{{Iso1|28|Al}}
|{{Iso1|29|Si|R}}
|{{Iso1|30|P }}
|{{Iso1|31|S }}
|{{Iso1|32|Cl}}
|{{Iso1|33|Ar}}
|
![[Calcium|Ca]]

|}

= Discussion =

== Popup titles in the isotope table cells ==

Popup titles displaying half-lives when hovering over table cells were added in January 2006. For background and discussion see [[Talk:Isotope table (complete)#Alternatives for displaying colour legend]].

==13 July 2006 edit==
Presumably this was for performance, but there was no documentation and it was by an anon IP. Is there any way we can tell how this change actually affects performance? --[[User:JWB|JWB]] 21:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

==Proposed color changes==
Here is a proposal for splitting the longer-lived categories into more precise bands, with the colors based on interpolation of the present ones. Red is left as stable here, so this proposal is disjoint from the one at [[Talk:Isotope table (complete)#Red to gray?]]. Or, if we do adopt gray for stable, the 100ky+ categories can be shifted down one color, as the colors for 10k-100k and 100k-1m do not look very distinct, at least on my monitor. --[[User:JWB|JWB]] 16:53, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

{|  cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" border="1" style="margin:0 0 1em 2em; {{{1|}}}"
|-
| {{Iso1|145|Gd|-}} || <1 [[day]]
|-
| {{Iso1|146|Gd|V}} || 1–10 days
|-
| {{Iso1|149|Gd|I}} || 10–100 days
|-
| {{Iso1|153|Gd|B}} || 100d–1 [[year]]
|-
|style="background:#6FA;" | <small><sup>147</sup></small>Pm || 1-10 years
|-
| {{Iso1|148|Gd|G}} || 10–100 years
|- 
|style="background:#AF7;" | <small><sup>241</sup></small>Am ||100-1000 years
|-
|style="background:#CF6;" | <small><sup>14</sup></small>C   ||1000-10000 years
|-
|style="background:#FF6;" | <small><sup>239</sup></small>Pu || 10k–100k years
|- 
|style="background:#FE6;" | <small><sup>99</sup></small>Tc  ||100k-1m years
|-
|style="background:#FD6;" | <small><sup>150</sup></small>Gd ||1m-10m years
|-
|style="background:#FC6;" | <small><sup>129</sup></small>I  ||10m-103m years
|- 
|style="background:#FB7;" | <small><sup>238</sup></small>U  ||700m-14b years
|-
|style="background:#FA8;" | <small><sup>152</sup></small>Gd ||38b-50q years
<!--
|-
|style="background:#BBB;" | <small><sup>158</sup></small>Gd ||Stable
-->
|-
| {{Iso1|158|Gd|R}} || Stable
|}

<!-- Color definitions -=FFF|V=C9F|I=6CF|B=6FD|C=7FA|G=7F7|W=AF7|X=CF6|Y=FF6|M=FE6|N=FD6|O=FC6|P=FB7|Q=FA8|R=F99|
-->

I'm going to give gray (#BBB) a try as nobody has objected. Discuss here or at [[Talk:Isotope table (complete)#Red to gray?]]. --[[User:JWB|JWB]] 19:04, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

==Another Color proposal==
I liked the [[Isotope table]], but found the coloring scheme a bit counter-intuitive: it seemed to me that "energetic" colors on the warm end of the spectrum should represent the more unstable elements, while cooler colors should go on the more stable end of the scale.  Here's a proposed scheme:

{| cellpadding=2 cellspacing=0 border=1
|+ '''[[Half-life|Half-lives]]'''&nbsp;(example:&nbsp;[[Gadolinium|Gd]])
|-
| bgcolor="#ffcocb" | <sup>145</sup>Gd || <1 [[day]]
|-
| bgcolor="#ffcc66" | <sup>146</sup>Gd || 1-10 [[day]]s
|-
| bgcolor="#ffee66" | <sup>149</sup>Gd || 10-100 days
|-
| bgcolor="#90ee90" | <sup>153</sup>Gd || 100d–10 [[year]]s
|-
| bgcolor="#40e0d0" | <sup>148</sup>Gd || 10-10,000 years
|-
| bgcolor="#87ceeb" | <sup>150</sup>Gd || 10k–103m years
|-
| bgcolor="#b0c4de" | <sup>152</sup>Gd || >700m years
|-
| bgcolor="#c0c0c0" | <sup>158</sup>Gd || Stable
|}

What do you think? --[[User:Erudy|Erudy]] ([[User talk:Erudy|talk]]) 20:16, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
: '''I agree.''' However, I would suggest finishing the table with the sequence orange > yellow > white for a better lightness gradient. --[[User:IanOsgood|IanOsgood]] ([[User talk:IanOsgood|talk]]) 19:57, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

::Good point...although I didn't change the order of the colors (I wanted to keep the traditional coolness/warmth gradient), I lightened the "orange" color into more of a pink to maintain the light/dark gradient.  Also I removed one of the more blue colors to reduce ambiguity.  How does this appear on other people's screens?

{| cellpadding=2 cellspacing=0 border=1
|+ '''[[Half-life|Half-lives]]'''&nbsp;(example:&nbsp;[[Gadolinium|Gd]])
|-
| bgcolor="#ffcocb" | <sup>145</sup>[[Gd]] || <1 [[day]]
|-
| bgcolor="#FFDAB9" | <sup>146</sup>[[Gd]] || 1-10 [[day]]s
|-
| bgcolor="#ffee66" | <sup>149</sup>[[Gd]] || 10-100 days
|-
| bgcolor="#AF7" | <sup>153</sup>[[Gd]] || 100d–10 [[year]]
|-
| bgcolor="#90ee90" | <sup>148</sup>[[Gd]] || 10-10,000 years
|-
| bgcolor="#87ceeb" | <sup>150</sup>[[Gd]] || 10k–103m years
|-
| bgcolor="#b0c4de" | <sup>152</sup>[[Gd]] || >700m years
|-
| bgcolor="#A9A9A9" | <sup>158</sup>[[Gd]] || Stable
|}

[[User:Erudy|Erudy]] ([[User talk:Erudy|talk]]) 15:35, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

This is also being discussed at [[Talk:Isotope table (complete)#Red to gray?]]. Physical [[color temperature]] and traditional [[color symbolism]] give opposite results. There is also the possibility of using brightness or saturation to indicate stability and reserving color for decay mode or something else, for example as in the unimplemented [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Isotopes#Color_scheme]]. In any case, I want to split up the halflife categories into finer ones. --[[User:JWB|JWB]] ([[User talk:JWB|talk]]) 17:55, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:Interesting point about the opposition of physical color temperature and psychological color temperature.  Personally, I find the "psychological" version more compelling, at least in this context.  I think the whole point of a graphical device such as [[Isotope table]] is to make information quickly and clearly accessible, and I think the "psychological" spectrum does that better, even if it's not as "accurate".  It would be more accurate to lay all the isotopes out in writing on some gigantic spreadsheet, giving their precise half lives etc.  Of course such a spreadsheet would be unreadable.  

:[[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Isotopes#Color_scheme]] is certainly an ambitious proposal, and I guess I'm not sure that it is not trying to cram too much information into the available space.  I feel like we can communicate one piece of information (length of half-life) in a clear and intuitive way (using of couple dimensions of spectrum, ie "psychological" cold->warm plus dull->bright), or we can try to communicate more pieces of information (length of half life and type of decay) with less clarity ("pastel->saturation/brightness" for one and "scientific" cold->warm for the other)  I see the value of communicating type of decay, but wonder if it wouldn't be more effectively done with some sort of symbol rather than a color?  Wouldn't having, I don't know, a β tucked into the corner of the box (perhaps underneath the isotope number?) more intuitively communicate beta radiation than the color blue, for instance?  (I'm more of an interested layperson than an expert in all this, so maybe there is some sort of connection between the blue and beta radiation, but I don't know it.)  

:As for adding more "steps" in the spectum, and thus increasing precision, I'd say it's a great idea.  However, I also feel that it's a different discussion.[[User:Erudy|Erudy]] ([[User talk:Erudy|talk]]) 16:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

::I'm going to '''be bold''' and try implementing this on iso1 and iso2[[User:Erudy|Erudy]] ([[User talk:Erudy|talk]]) 19:07, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

:::I'm finding it harder to read, but I was used to the previous scheme since I've used and edited this page a lot. I do think that color temperature with blue hotter is intuitive to people familiar with any one of many fields like photography, metallurgy, or stellar evolution. Also note the names of the color/halflife templates are still the first letters of the original colors.

:::I do think that using saturation (the black to white dimension), perhaps along with color, to indicate halflife, would add readability. Currently, very unstable is white and stable is gray, so intermediate halflives should also progress along this scale, even if they also have color.

:::I've made some attempts to draft tables or lists of isotopes organized by other criteria like halflife; see my user page for links.

:::Indicating decay mode in some other way than color is not a bad idea if designed well, but it would also have to be implemented, which may be difficult for many schemes. To some extent decay mode is predictable from position on the chart (above the stable sequence, below, or high mass) and it is the exceptions that need to be highlighted. --[[User:JWB|JWB]] ([[User talk:JWB|talk]]) 19:42, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

::::I'm still finding Erudy's scheme to be much harder to read. --[[User:JWB|JWB]] ([[User talk:JWB|talk]]) 00:46, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

==Proposal to add a new category==
{| class="wikitable" style="float:right;margin:0 0 1em 0.5em; {{{1|}}}"
|+ '''[[Half-life|Half-lives]]''' (example:&nbsp;[[Gadolinium|Gd]])
|-
| {{Iso1|143|Gd|-}}
| style="text-align:right;" |< 1 [[minute]]
|-
|bgcolor="#ffecdc"|<sup>145</sup>Gd
| style="text-align:right;" |1 minute–1&nbsp;[[day]]
|-
| {{Iso1|149|Gd|V}}
| style="text-align:right;" |1–10 days
|-
| {{Iso1|146|Gd|I}}
| style="text-align:right;" |10–100 days
|-
| {{Iso1|153|Gd|B}}
| style="text-align:right;" |100 days–10&nbsp;[[annum|a]]
|-
| {{Iso1|148|Gd|G}}
| style="text-align:right;" |10–10,000&nbsp;a
|-
| {{Iso1|150|Gd|Y}}
| style="text-align:right;" |10&nbsp;ka–700&nbsp;Ma
|-
| {{Iso1|152|Gd|O}}
| style="text-align:right;" |> 700&nbsp;Ma
|-
| {{Iso1|158|Gd|R}}
| style="text-align:right;" |Stable
|}

I propose to add another colour to separate nuclides with half-lives below 1 minute and above 1 minute. This shorter half-life might be helpful to show the half-life differences for nuclides far away from line of beta-stability. --[[User:Nucleus hydro elemon|Nucleus hydro elemon]] ([[User talk:Nucleus hydro elemon|talk]]) 03:12, 11 April 2025 (UTC)