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==Welcome==
I welcome your thoughts. --[[User:The Archivist|The Archivist]]

== "[[Discogs]].com" -> "[[Discogs]]" ==
In the spirit of similar templates ({{tl|Allmusicguide}} and {{tl|MusicBrainz artist}}), I think that the display should read:
* [http://www.discogs.com/artist/Postal+Service,+The The Postal Service] at [[Discogs]]
This eliminates the '''.com''' at the end.  I think it works better with the other templates and looks better.  –<span style="border: solid 2px #CC5500; background-color: #FFCC00">[[User:Heaven's Wrath|<span style="color:#CC5500;">'''&nbsp;Heav'''</span>]][[User:Heaven's Wrath/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">'''''e'''''</span>]][[User:Heaven's Wrath|<span style="color:#CC5500;">'''n's Wrath&nbsp;'''</span>]]</span> [[User_talk:Heaven's Wrath|<sup><span style="border: solid 2px #CC5500; background-color: #FFCC00" color="#CC5500">'''&nbsp;Talk&nbsp;'''</span></sup>]] 22:36, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

*I added a bit of code that just throws in the artist name into the URL if someone fails to enter the "artist" parameter.  So now, for example, in the article [[Squarepusher]], one needs to merely have <nowiki>{{Discogs artist}}</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>{{Discogs artist|artist=Squarepusher}}</nowiki>
:*And the name parameter - if what is now the artist string equals the name string, then it shouldn't be necessary to type both - [[User:Chsf|Chsf]] 09:50, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
::[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp -->, added support for both numbered parameters to both the template and its documentation, maintaining support for the existing parameter names and not requiring the name string. &nbsp; — '''<span class="texhtml">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff]] [[User:Jeff G./talk|G.&nbsp; ツ]]</span>''' 16:49, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

== Is this template necessary? ==
Is the template of [[Discogs]] necessary? Discogs.com shouldn't necessarily be an external link (excluding the casual exception). The site adds no new information to articles. In biographies, external links to discographies should not be included, as musicians tend to have discography sections or articles all their own. Also, Discogs.com isn't necessarily a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]], as it's based on users submitting information, much like Wikipedia and IMDb. Considering these two factors, it's rare that Discogs.com should be linked, therefore, the existence of this template isn't justified. I looked over a few articles that use this template and those articles are tragically suffering from [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#LINK|excessive external links]], so they shouldn't necessarily be there either. Thoughts? — '''''[[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#000000;">Σ</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:#000000;">xplicit</span>]]''''' 23:16, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
*Disagree.  We don't have exhaustive discographies like Discogs does.  Discogs has way more release-specific information that we shouldn't hope (or want!) to duplicate.  As for the reliability, I'd say it's about as reliable as IMDb, which you compare it to yourself.  And I certainly don't think we should be removing IMDb links.  [[User:Wickethewok|Wickethewok]] ([[User talk:Wickethewok|talk]]) 23:51, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
* Disagree too. Yes, Discogs has errors (Allmusic and IMDb too), but Discogs also has invaluable information about all original releases (such as vinyl and cassette, or Japan-only editions, etc.) and often full legible scans not just of the cover but also the liner notes or the vinyl etchings. Discogs was instrumental for me when I researched and sourced the article for the album ''[[Novus Magnificat]]'' (look for Discogs in its notes and references) despite its user-generated errors. And its content can be useful for readers of an article, beyond what Wikipedia can offer them. Sometimes, Discogs is like the Google Books of albums. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Ekans|Ekans]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Ekans|''talk'']]</sup> @ 04:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
* Disagree three. As a longterm user and contributor of Discogs (and average one here too), each release submitted is usually checked by other owners of the ''exact'' same version of the release, so receives checking multiple times. Yes, errors are there too (much like Wikipedia, in fact!), but the average album or single may have very many versions released across many territories; each of which gets listed on the site on its own page on Discogs and so gives distinctly different info to here. Info database-wise, I personally think MUSIC=Discogs, FILM/TV=IMdB, it's just BOOKS/MAGS=currently unsure if there is a central one, though Wikipedia has good background, most books are not notable for inclusion, so who knows?  [[User:Jimthing|Jimthing]] ([[User talk:Jimthing|talk]]) 00:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

== simplified version? ==

Could you simplify this template
<pre>
{{discogs artist | artist = xxxxx | name = yyyyy }}
</pre>
to
<pre>
{{discogs artist | xxxxx }}
</pre>
- with the +'s automatically hidden?
- and the name section only to add as the  need  arises?

([[User:E-Kartoffel|E-Kartoffel]] ([[User talk:E-Kartoffel|talk]]) 11:02, 6 March 2010 (UTC))
:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp -->, added support for both numbered parameters to both the template and its documentation, maintaining support for the existing parameter names.  &nbsp; — '''<span class="texhtml">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff]] [[User:Jeff G./talk|G.&nbsp; ツ]]</span>''' 16:46, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

{{tl|edit semi-protected}}
By entering <code><nowiki>{{discogs artist|example}}</nowiki></code> this creates:

{{discogs artist|example}}

Please could someone change this so that it produces {{discogs artist|artist=example}} (so that it is not necessary to enter <code>artist=</code>)? [[User:Mhiji|Mhiji]] ([[User talk:Mhiji|talk]]) 15:28, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp -->, added support for both numbered parameters to both the template and its documentation, maintaining support for the existing parameter names.  &nbsp; — '''<span class="texhtml">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff]] [[User:Jeff G./talk|G.&nbsp; ツ]]</span>''' 16:45, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

== More precise please ==
Could you please change to display as: 
* [http://www.discogs.com/artist/Example Discogs artist] discography at [[Discogs]]

This is much clearer text describing what is on the page being linked to (a "discography"), and furthermore is what many users are using when manually adding links not using this template, as it is what they understand the link description logically should say. [[User:Jimthing|Jimthing]] ([[User talk:Jimthing|talk]]) 05:32, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

: [[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp -->. Now makes more sense as link info. [[User:Jimthing|Jimthing]] ([[User talk:Jimthing|talk]]) 22:16, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

== No plus signs needed anymore ==

I updated this template to behave more closely to {{tl|last.fm}}. In particular, we no longer need to (or should) use plus signs "+" in the artist name. Very often, we can now just use the "no-parameter" version of the template and for simple page names, it will work OK.

I had add a hack the template and conver up to two plus signs out of the string so that the urlencode will work OK. If there are more than that, the link is broken until we update it. If the actual name has a plus sign in it, then those links will be broken until fix update all 1400 uses and can remove the plus-sign-to-spaces hack. If you simply have a fix a page and it is one of these odd cases, then stop using the template and provide a direct link for now. If the "artist" string has any URL encoding (of the form percent-hexnumber-hexnumber), then it will be broken until we fix it.--[[User:Lashuto|Lashuto]] ([[User talk:Lashuto|talk]]) 21:56, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
: Have replaced back the word 'discography' for obvious reasons as per my original explanation above (as that is what it links to!) for artist and label Discogs templates. I respect your other changes though may make adding them easier. [[User:Jimthing|Jimthing]] ([[User talk:Jimthing|talk]]) 10:26, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
::Sorry about that. Bad judgement on my part.--[[User:Lashuto|Lashuto]] ([[User talk:Lashuto|talk]]) 11:25, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

== Apostrophe ==

[[Herman's_Hermits#External_links|There]] are problems. [[User:Qbli2mHd|Qbli2mHd]] ([[User talk:Qbli2mHd|talk]]) 00:03, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

== instructions ==

Please rewrite the instructions, they are dreadfully confusing. Is the whole point that the pluses should be replaced with spaces? [[User:Danny lost|trespassers william]] ([[User talk:Danny lost|talk]]) 18:47, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

== Wikidata  ==

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Wikidata now has [[:d:Property:P1953|Property:P1953]] for Discog artist IDs (note that it uses numerical IDs, not band names). This template should now be made to call them from there, and the data should be transferred across by a bot. It may be better to merge this template into {{Tl|Authority control}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 16:06, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
:Don't know much about this process personally, so has this been done? Sounds pretty logical, thought "labels", "master releases", and "releases" need the same. [[User:Jimthing|Jimthing]] ([[User talk:Jimthing|talk]]) 20:02, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

=== Wikidata fail ===

On [[Collide (band)]] I tried {{tlx|discogs artist}} expecting the same effect as for {{tlx|discogs artist|10661-Collide|Collide}} (cf. [[Special:Diff/880492771/880492908|diff]]): The '''10661''' can be derived from the [[d:Q164537|WikiData item]].<br /> 
I'm not sure why that failed, [[Collide]] vs. [[Collide (band)]] could derail a lookup on Discogs, but the "Discogs artist ID '''is''' 10661" statement on [[d:Q164537]] already goes to the relevant Discogs record. Whatever is wrong, I'm not tempted to look into any Scribunto here.{{=P}} &ndash;[[Special:Contributions/84.46.53.129|84.46.53.129]] ([[User talk:84.46.53.129|talk]]) 19:55, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

== discogslink=no ==

It would be good to add an option to disable linking of the Discogs article, per [[MOS:DL]]. [[User:Hl|—Hugh]] ([[User talk:Hl|talk]]) 00:23, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

== Template-protected edit request on 26 August 2020 ==

{{edit template-protected|Template:Discogs artist|answered=yes}}
In the source code, please remove the space before <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>EditAtWikidata</code>, as this causes a ''double'' space to be indicated in transclusions (before the pencil symbol) when using the browser text search (at least in Firefox). [[User:Hildeoc|Hildeoc]] ([[User talk:Hildeoc|talk]]) 08:43, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ETp --> Same on Safari/Chrome. [[User:ProcrastinatingReader|ProcrastinatingReader]] ([[User talk:ProcrastinatingReader|talk]]) 11:30, 26 August 2020 (UTC)