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== Template-protected edit request on 5 June 2018 ==

{{edit template-protected|Template:Box-header|answered=y}}
The line:

<syntaxhighlight lang=moin>padding-top: {{{padding-top|.3em;}}}</syntaxhighlight>

needs to be changed to:

<syntaxhighlight lang=moin>padding-top: {{{padding-top|.3em}}};</syntaxhighlight>

this ensures the semi-colon is always included. At the moment it not being included will cause errors when a custom padding-top is provided. 

See example:

{{Box-header
|EDIT=yes
|TOC=no
|SPAN=yes
| padding-top=1em
}}
{{Box-footer}}

<syntaxhighlight lang=moin>{{Box-header
| padding-top=1em
}}
{{Box-footer}}
</syntaxhighlight>

produces in the source:

<syntaxhighlight lang=css>
... padding-top: 1em-moz-border-radius: 0; ...
</syntaxhighlight>

Thanks,
[[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy Jazz]] ([[User talk:Dreamy Jazz|talk]]) 21:15, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ETp --> [[User:Cabayi|Cabayi]] ([[User talk:Cabayi|talk]]) 07:04, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

== Template and edit link not working properly ==

In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Earth_sciences&oldid=844661367 this version of the Earth sciences portal], a couple of things aren't working. The edit link at the top of the box reads <nowiki>[{{fullurl:{{{2}}}|action=edit}} edit]</nowiki>, and in the first news item there is the string <nowiki>{{convert|adj=on|2|-|5|m}}</nowiki>. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:grey;">[[User:RockMagnetist|RockMagnetist]]([[User talk:RockMagnetist|talk]])</span> 15:18, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
: {{ping|RockMagnetist}} One of the problems is fixed (the In the News section did not have an edit link). The other problem is best asked at the talk page for {{tl|Transclude selected current events}}, as this is the template that included the news onto the portal. Thanks [[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy Jazz]] <sup><i>[[User_talk:Dreamy Jazz|talk]]</i> &#124; <i>[[Special:Contributions/Dreamy Jazz|contribs]]</i></sup> 20:44, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
::The broken edit link is something to do with [//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Evad37?offset=20180604090000&limit=44 these edits] by {{user|Evad37}}. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 21:12, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
:::Nah, nothing to do with those edits, which were only to the numbered subpages of Template:Box-header (which in turn call Template:Box-header with specific style values). Portal:Earth sciences uses [[Portal:Earth sciences/box-header]], which calls Box-header directly, not a numbered subpage. The problem came from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Earth_sciences&diff=843416756&oldid=843257382 this edit] which added a <nowiki>{{/box header}}</nowiki> {{small|1=(which expands to <nowiki>{{Portal:Earth sciences/box-header}}</nowiki>)}} without a second parameter – so the <code><nowiki>{{{2}}}</nowiki></code> in Portal:Earth sciences/box-header became the literal text <nowiki>{{{2}}}</nowiki> which was then passed into Template:Box-header's {{para|editpage}} parameter. These 2 edits [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal%3AEarth_sciences&type=revision&diff=844739359&oldid=844661367][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Earth_sciences/box-header&diff=844133266&oldid=829241003] fixed it by allowing {{para|noedit|yes}} to be passed on to Template:Box-header for portal components not using subpages - <u>'''[[User:Evad37|Evad]]''37'''''</u>&nbsp;<span style="font-size:95%;">&#91;[[d:w:User talk:Evad37|talk]]]</span> 00:12, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
:: {{ping|RockMagnetist}} Fixed the {{tld|Transclude selected current events}} template, or rather its module, which now properly expands any templates found in the items it transcludes - <u>'''[[User:Evad37|Evad]]''37'''''</u>&nbsp;<span style="font-size:95%;">&#91;[[d:w:User talk:Evad37|talk]]]</span> 02:40, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
::: {{ping|Evad37}} Thanks for fixing the problems! <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:grey;">[[User:RockMagnetist|RockMagnetist]]([[User talk:RockMagnetist|talk]])</span> 04:19, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

== Switch to Module:Box-header? ==

Should this template be switched to use [[Module:Box-header]] (i.e. the code currently at [[Template:Box-header/lua]])? It would take the same parameters and produce the same output, but would have the advantage of checking colour combinations for accessibility, per [[MOS:COLOUR]], and reporting uses of inaccessible colours in [[:Category:Box-header with insufficient title contrast]] and [[:Category:Box-header with insufficient body contrast]]. It would also mean that this template and {{tl|Box-header colour}} would be using the same code, reducing redundancy and allowing any future improvements to be made to both templates. - <u>'''[[User:Evad37|Evad]]''37'''''</u>&nbsp;<span style="font-size:95%;">&#91;[[d:w:User talk:Evad37|talk]]]</span> 07:19, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
:{{Done}} - <u>'''[[User:Evad37|Evad]]''37'''''</u>&nbsp;<span style="font-size:95%;">&#91;[[d:w:User talk:Evad37|talk]]]</span> 04:34, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

== Remove production of NOTOC and NOEDITSECTION ==

I suggest that the magic words NOTOC and NOEDITSECTION are removed from output of this module to allow usage of the template on the pages, where table of contents and edit links are needed. For example: subpages of portals, like [[Portal:United Kingdom/Featured picture]], and [[Special:Diff/994294979|talk pages of portals]]. The overwhelming majority of usages of {{tl|Box-header}} are in portals, and to that end the magic words [[Special:Diff/888483028/993379860|were added]] to template {{tl|Portal styles}}, which is transcluded to all portal pages via {{tl|Portal maintenance status}}. Ping {{u|wbm1058}}, who [[Special:Diff/993541462|objected to this change]]. —⁠[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 12:57, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:See {{section link|Template:Box-header#Behaviour options}} and the guidance just above the TOC at the top of this page. – [[User:Wbm1058|wbm1058]] ([[User talk:Wbm1058|talk]]) 14:28, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::{{u|Wbm1058}}, I suggest that these parameters are not needed at all and this functionality should be removed from the template. Presence of {{tl|Box-header}}, which produces a part of a page layout, should not affect the layout of the page as a whole. —⁠[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 15:47, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:::Digging into the edit history, I found this discussion:
{{collapse top|Template talk:Box-header/Archive 1 §Accessibility Issue}}
{{#section-h:Template talk:Box-header/Archive 1|Accessibility Issue}}
{{collapse bottom}}
:::I don't know whether these concerns from 2006 are still valid, and if they are, whether there is a better work-around. Please make your proposed changes in [[Module:Box-header/sandbox]] so that they may be reviewed (which you didn't do in December, when these changes surprised me). I think it's likely other editors will be surprised too as this is longstanding behavior in a widely-used template, which you are proposing to change. – [[User:Wbm1058|wbm1058]] ([[User talk:Wbm1058|talk]]) 16:37, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::::{{tl|Box-header}} is a decorative template for wrapping some content. It is usually used on portals to wrap a section of the page, like selected article, selected picture, etc. My argument is:  because it is ''a part of the page'', it should not affect the ''page-wide'' formatting. All portals already transclude the template {{tl|Portal styles}}, which adds <code><nowiki>__NOTOC____NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki></code> to them.
::::Template {{tl|Box-header}} is also used on talk pages of portals in discussions of portal layouts. Affecting the layout of these pages is undesirable. But even without these usages on pages, that are not main portal pages, I claim that production of NOTOC and NOEDITSECTION is illogical for {{tl|Box-header}}.
::::The proposed change in the sandbox: [[Special:Diff/997693614/1046377628]]. The template is also fairly widely used for formatting of WikiProject pages – if the suggested change is applied, I'll check the formatting of WikiProject pages to make sure that WikiProjects that use {{tl|Box-header}} have the appropriate formatting of table of contents. —⁠[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 10:59, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
:::::I'm not really a portal user; I noticed this change at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Merge]]. Testing [[special:permalink/1046385858|your sandbox version]] on that project page I saw a TOC where it was suppressed previously, and the "section 1" in the TOC has no heading – what is "section 1" and why is it there? OK I added '''NOTOC''' to that page, which is apparently redundant now but is needed if your sandbox goes live. Section editing isn't disabled on that page. [[User:Wbm1058|wbm1058]] ([[User talk:Wbm1058|talk]]) 15:25, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
::::::{{re|wbm1058}} {{tq|the "section 1" in the TOC has no heading – what is "section 1" and why is it there?}} – this is because on page [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Merge]], the first usage of {{tl|Box-header}} has {{para|title|<nowiki>[[File:PMG logo.svg|85px|WikiProject Merge]]</nowiki>}}, and images are stripped away when generating a table of contents. —⁠[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 14:19, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

== Forces light mode by default which is an accessibility issue ==

Black text on white background should never be forced on Wikipedia overriding "dark mode" settings whether in Wikipedia or in the user's browser. This is a major accessibility issue. Can we make this template compatible with dark mode at least by default? [[User:DIYeditor|—DIYeditor]] ([[User talk:DIYeditor|talk]]) 22:04, 2 April 2025 (UTC)