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== Pure and Easy ==
Towards the end of Pure and Easy as the music is fading away, you will be able to hear someone yelling "Put away your girlie magazines!". Does anyone know who says this?

I think this is the start of the concert version of "Baby Don't You Do It" which follows "Pure and Easy". It sounds like Pete Townshend.

== Studio version articles ==

Is it really necessary to have articles for studio versions of songs? I'm not seeing the significance of such articles. My suggestion is, if you want information for the studio versions of "[[Behind Blue Eyes]]" and "[[Won't Get Fooled Again]]", put it in the main article. That way we're not creating lots of confusion.

This article is already long enough.  Adding the articles for those individual songs (which themselves are of a significant length) will make this article too long.--[[User:FK65|FK65]] 04:32, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

The article mentions "Join Together" and "Relay" as being recorded during the album sessions. They weren't. Thy were recorded the following year.  The songs do have ties to the Lifehouse project, but they are not Who's Next out-takes.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.32.48.10|82.32.48.10]] ([[User talk:82.32.48.10#top|talk]]) 21:35, 30 July 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== odds and sods? ==

<nowiki>I was looking at odds and sods and it looks like alot of songs on the deleux edition are on odds and sods</nowiki> <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/68.85.95.162|68.85.95.162]] ([[User talk:68.85.95.162|talk]]) 03:41, 29 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

They're the same songs, however, different versions.

Also, on the same note of the Deluxe Edition, is that Townshend's vocals on the electric version of "Love Ain't For Keeping?"  It sounds a lot like him, but a bit grittier.--[[User:Alexrules43|Alexrules43]] 00:48, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

==Article for "My Wife"==
Hi, I would like to create a page for the song 'my wife' but the link only comes back to the 'whos next' page. Could this be amended in any way please? Thanks a lot, Robbie
:If you click the link "My Wife" in the "Redirected from My Wife" line at the top of the page you can edit the "My Wife" article, for example change it from a redirect to an actual article. Hope this helps. --[[User:PEJL|PEJL]] 19:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot mate.

==Stolen Master Tracks==
Should there be mention somewhere in the article about the recent theft of the original Master Tracks for this album? That was a pretty big deal, as the album couldn't be put on to [[Rock Band]] because of that. [[User:Doshindude|Doshindude]] ([[User talk:Doshindude|talk]]) 03:04, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:Can someone explain why this information is being removed from the article? It's perfectly valid and well-sourced. Not to mention it's VERY notable. The fact that it is a 40 year old album and was planned to be made available for a music video game 40 years later is pretty significant. See [[The Cars (album)]], [[Screaming for Vengeance]], [[Doolittle (album)]], [[Texas Flood (album)]], [[The Colour and the Shape]], [[Peace Sells... but Who's Buying?]], [[Dig Out Your Soul]], [[Death Magnetic]]. (these are not sources - they are examples of precedents set for this information). Furthermore, this specific case brings to light some pretty important information that is not covered in the version of the article that keeps being reverted to. Mainly, that the master tapes were confirmed as stolen by Pete Townshend himself! [[User:Y2kcrazyjoker4|Y2kcrazyjoker4]] ([[User talk:Y2kcrazyjoker4|talk]]) 03:01, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

== 1995 Reissue ==

What is the 1995 reissue that is referred to in the article, because the 1995 reissue that I own has different bonus tracks. It does not contain "The Seeker", "Let's See Action" or "Join Together" but it does feature the original version of "Behind Blue Eyes".--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 10:35, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
:I see this has now been corrected - thanks.--[[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 18:33, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

==Behind Blue Eyes (original)==
On the album I own, this song's only three-and-a-half minutes long, but it says four minutes here. Anyone care to clarify? [[User:Middle Eye 512|Middle Eye 512]] ([[User talk:Middle Eye 512|talk]]) 21:31, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

== Orphaned references in [[:Who's Next]] ==

I check pages listed in [[:Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting]] to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for [[User:AnomieBOT/docs/OrphanReferenceFixer|orphaned references]] in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of [[:Who's Next]]'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for ''this'' article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

<b>Reference named "BPI":</b><ul>
<li>From [[The Who discography]]: {{cite web|url=http://www.bpi.co.uk/certifiedawards/search.aspx|title=Certified Awards Search|publisher=[[British Phonographic Industry|BPI]]|accessdate=23 August 2012. Note: User needs to enter "The Who" in the "Search" field, "Artist" in the "Search by" field and click the "Go" button. Select "More info" next to the relevant entry to see full certification history}}</li>
<li>From [[The Who]]: {{cite web|url=http://www.brits.co.uk/history/shows/1988|title=The BRITs 1988 |publisher=British Phonographic Industry |accessdate=27 September 2013}}</li>
<li>From [[List of awards and nominations received by The Who]]: {{cite web|url=http://www.everyhit.com/awardbrit.html |title=BRIT Awards |publisher=Everyhit.com |accessdate=24 November 2010}}</li>
</ul>

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. [[User:AnomieBOT|AnomieBOT]][[User talk:AnomieBOT|<span style="color:#888800;">⚡</span>]] 19:58, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

== External links modified ==

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==Assessment comment==
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{{y}} All the start class criteria<br/> 
{{y}} A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details<br/> 
{{y}} At least one section of prose (excluding the lead section)<br/> 
{{y}} A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs<br/> 
{{n}} A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians<br/> 
{{y}} Categorisation at least by artist and year<br/>
{{y}} A casual reader should learn something about the album.[[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 21:19, 11 May 2008 (UTC)}}
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==Past tense==
"The album ''opened'' with..", "'Behind Blue Eyes' ''featured''..", "The closing track, 'Won't Get Fooled Again', ''was'' critical.." – any reason we are using past term tense terms here? And furthermore why the contrast then with "The song ''features'' the Lowrey organ.."--[[User:TangoTizerWolfstone|TangoTizerWolfstone]] ([[User talk:TangoTizerWolfstone|talk]]) 21:55, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
:Probably because that's what the book sources tend to do. [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 22:36, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 July 2017 ==

{{edit extended-protected|Who's Next|answered=yes}}
Could you edit the sales certification from 3x platinum 3,000,000 to 5x platinum 5,000,000<ref>https://www.greasylake.org/the-circuit/index.php?/topic/130828-the-who-usa-sales/</ref> [[Special:Contributions/49.228.253.197|49.228.253.197]] ([[User talk:49.228.253.197|talk]]) 20:09, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
:{{nd}} Not a [[WP:RS|reliable source]]. ~ [[User:BU Rob13|<b>Rob</b><small><sub>13</sub></small>]]<sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">[[User talk:BU Rob13|Talk]]</sup> 20:13, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

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== Hatnote: For Tom Lehrer's song "Who's Next?" ==

{{ping|Dan56}} I think it is okay to add the [[WP:HATNOTE]] because {{tq|there is a reasonable possibility of a reader arriving at the article either by mistake or with another topic in mind.}} First, I was looking for [[Tom Lehrer]]'s song "Who's Next?" and eventually found it on ''[[That Was the Year That Was]]''. I not sure how to translate "reasonable possibility" into a percentage, 1%? 5%? Tom Lehrer gets as much traffic as this page, but the album TWTYTW gets about 5% of that [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2018-05&end=2019-04&pages=Who%27s_Next|That_Was_the_Year_That_Was|Tom_Lehrer|The_Who (click on "Logarithmic scale")]. If we leave the hatnote in there for a while, there's some tool which shows how much traffic flows there, giving us a better number. Others thought it was a "reasonable possibility" because it looks like there was a prior hatnote for 3 years (hard to know if more or less, is there a tool for that?) from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Who%27s_Next&type=revision&diff=66859612&oldid=65840601&diffmode=source 2006] to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Who%27s_Next&diff=prev&oldid=301716084&diffmode=source 2009]. I'm not sure why the IP removed it with {{tq|Tom Lehrer link has nothing to do with Who's Next. No relation or similarities.}} Perhaps they misunderstood the purpose of hatnotes and was thinking it had nothing to do with The Who's album instead of "Who's Next". Maybe the Lehrer's song/album influenced the naming of The Who's album since it [https://www.billboard.com/music/tom-lehrer/chart-history/billboard-200/song/827626 peaked at #18 on Billboard in 1966], but probably not. [[User:StrayBolt|StrayBolt]] ([[User talk:StrayBolt|talk]]) 17:16, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

: The ''album'' charted in 1966; the song has no notability for the general reader to consider looking for an article on it. There is no (verifiable) information about the song, even in the article you are trying to place a hatnote for. It is an example of "trivial information," improper use ([[WP:TRHAT]]). And if we are to look at the bigger picture, this does not seem like a reasonable idea, to place hatnotes atop every album article, connecting it to an article sharing a title of one of its songs: Should we place another hatnote here for [[Spragga Benz]], who had [https://www.discogs.com/Spragga-Benz-Who-Next/master/629627 a similarly titled 1993 song]? [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] ([[User talk:Dan56|talk]]) 18:34, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

:: Why don't we just create [[Who's Next (disambiguation)|a disambiguation page]]? StrayBolt can't be the only person on this planet who wants to find out about something called "Who's Next" that isn't this album. [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 12:34, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

::: This article's ''album'' charted in 1971, peaking at #4 instead of #18 for TWTYTW; the year doesn't matter in either case. There are many verifiable sources for the song over all the decades, but yes, the article is lacking in cites about individual songs. Perhaps each of the songs description should be expanded with refs to show influence. [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2018-05&end=2019-04&pages=Who%27s_Next|That_Was_the_Year_That_Was|Tom_Lehrer|The_Who|Spragga_Benz Spragga Benz has 1/4 of the views] as Tom Lehrer and Benz's article doesn't even mention the song, "Who Next", while the song is mentioned in both Lehrer's and the TWTYTW's article. Disambig is probably okay, but I hadn't done a search for usage yet and may not know the significance/usage of each. [[User:StrayBolt|StrayBolt]] ([[User talk:StrayBolt|talk]]) 14:47, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

== Release date ==

Since there seems to be debate about this, I'll quote from the source (Neill & Kent 2002 p. 288) "{{xt|Saturday 14 August : As a reflection of the Who's Stateside popularity, ''Who's Next'' was released by Decca, a full fortnight before its U.K. release on 27 August."}} [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 13:01, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{reply|Ritchie333}} Was it that hard to insert the reference when listing the release date? We certainly do not need any edit wars over such a small matter. – [[User:Sabbatino|Sabbatino]] ([[User talk:Sabbatino|talk]]) 06:31, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
::Why remove information when you have no reason to think it's false, instead of inserting a "citation needed" and giving people some time to find the info? [[User:John K|john k]] ([[User talk:John K|talk]]) 18:16, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
:::Date changes that are apparently random are a recurring problem. Release and recording dates for songs/albums are a popular target.
:::You should, of course, ''have'' a reliable source if you are going to add or change a date. At that point, it's a relatively trivial matter to add the source with your edit. This makes it easy to both verify your edit '''''and''''' spot any future vandalism from those apparently bored editors spending their time making random changes to dates. - <span style="color:#D70270;background-color:white;">Sum</span><span style="color:#734F96;background-color:white;">mer</span><span style="color:#0038A8;background-color:white;">PhD</span><sup>[[User talk:SummerPhDv2.0|v2.0]]</sup> 22:05, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
: The trouble with August 14 is that the album made it to Billboard's album charts that week, so it must have been released earlier. RIAA Gold & Platinum page lists August 2 as the release date; a US copyright record for the cover package also lists Aug. 2 as the date of publication. That's the date I use in my collection cataloging. [[User:PatConolly|PatConolly]] ([[User talk:PatConolly|talk]]) 01:25, 1 February 2021 (UTC)