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== ROTC ==
Since when are ROTC cadets and midshipmen subject to the UCMJ? The article states they are: "Also, Reserve Officers' Training Corps (ROTC) cadets and midshipmen as members of reserve components are subject to the UCMJ while on inactive-duty training." All Army cadets are in the United States Army Reserve Control Group as cadets but are exempt from the UCMJ. If a cadet is ALSO in the reserves such as SMP, then yes he or she is subject as a member of the reserves, but not as a cadet.[[User:Scalga|Scalga]] ([[User talk:Scalga|talk]]) 20:08, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

:They are not. Art. 2 of the UCMJ that establishes jurisdiction mentions cadets and midshipmen, but both of those terms are defined in Art. 1 as meaning cadets and midshipmen of the service academies. It does not include ROTC cadets. See also {{Cite court |litigants=Woodrick v. Divich |vol=24 |reporter=M.J. |opinion=147 |pinpoint=150 fn2 |court=[[United States Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces |C.M.A.]] |date=1987 |url=https://cite.case.law/mj/24/147/ |access-date= |quote=Article 2(a)(2), Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. § 802(a)(2), which includes '[c]adets, aviation cadets, and midshipmen,' applies to cadets at the service academies, but it does not encompass AFROTC cadets.}} <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">[[User:GregJackP|<span style="color:#900;font-size:110%;font-family:Mistral">GregJackP</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:GregJackP|<span style="color:#900;font-size:60%">Boomer!</span>]]</span>  08:44, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

== Citation ==
I think the citation to the statue is incorrect. The UCMJ is codified at 10 U.S.C. 801 et. seq. If I'm not mistaken, can someone please change the cite? [[User:Zandar555|Zandar555]] ([[User talk:Zandar555|talk]]) 09:06, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Probably ought to say, "ROTC cadets and midshipmen" and "Academy cadets and midshipmen" instead of just "cadets".  After all, 3/5 of the academies have midshipmen, vs. 2/5 having cadets.  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/152.2.62.115|152.2.62.115]] ([[User talk:152.2.62.115|talk]]) 12:42, 5 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*Wrong, three-fifths are CADETS! The Coast Guard Academy designates their students' rank as cadets, not midshipmen.[[User:Todd gallagher|Todd Gallagher]] ([[User talk:Todd gallagher|talk]]) 00:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

From an email to Wikimedia:

"The UCMJ was first established in 1950.  President Truman was President from 1945 to 1953, which mean he established the UCMJ.  President Eisenhower  was President from 1953 to 1961 so he could not have established the UCMJ.  It underwent a major revision in  1968. President Lyndon B. Johnson was President from 1963 to 1969."

Could someone please check this and fix the article as needed?  It's not my area at all.  Thanks -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[User talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 18:07, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

== Housebreaking. ==
The link to "housebreaking" goes to training household pets. I think you mean to link to a disambiguation page with something like this: http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/mcm/bl130.htm.

== Title 10 or Title 50? ==
Is the [[Uniform Code of Military Justice]] at {{usctc|10|47}} or {{usctc|50|22}}?  It looks like it's both.  Was it moved? —[[User talk:Markles|Markles]] 21:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
* It was moved to Title 10. If you follow the Title 50 links, you'll find that all the UCMJ-related subsections in Title 50 have been repealed. — [[User:Dale Arnett|Dale Arnett]] ([[User talk:Dale Arnett|talk]]) 23:52, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

== Desertion ==
AWOL, missing movement, and desertion all link to desertion. These charges are completely different and carry completely different penalties. These links should change and have pages correctly written to show the differences in the charges.  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Thehotshotpilot|Thehotshotpilot]] ([[User talk:Thehotshotpilot|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thehotshotpilot|contribs]]) 05:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Jurisdiction ==
A more extensive listing than I expected. But some additional specifics of interest- can the following under certain conditions could the following be subject to UCMJ: behavior of press while embedded or with a military unit in field or operational status, or what about civilian (non-uniformed) members of the Department of Defense ( or even contractors.  In some television show, under some circumstances personnel in these categories were subject to UCMJ for their actions. 
[[User:Wfoj2|Wfoj2]] ([[User talk:Wfoj2|talk]]) 00:40, 27 July 2012 (UTC)


Does the UCMJ apply to the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces or to the various cabinet members (Defense, Army, Navy, etc) ?  [[User:NitPicker769|NitPicker769]] ([[User talk:NitPicker769|talk]]) 19:09, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
: While POTUS has the Constitutional authority as Commander in Chief over the armed forces, s/he is not a ''member'' of the armed forces. Nor are the service secretaries. Thus the UCMJ does not apply. The article is correct in that it tells us who -- e.g., members -- are subject to the UCMJ. No change is needed.--[[User:Srich32977|S. Rich]] ([[User talk:Srich32977|talk]]) 19:30, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

::Thanks...   [[User:NitPicker769|NitPicker769]] ([[User talk:NitPicker769|talk]]) 03:14, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

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== UCMJ laws ==

Hi, I'm working on a book, but I can't access the UCMJ laws page. Can someone copy and paste please? [[User:Faithful15|Faithful15]] ([[User talk:Faithful15|talk]]) 17:49, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

:I mean from the links, not from the Wikipage [[User:Faithful15|Faithful15]] ([[User talk:Faithful15|talk]]) 17:50, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

== Jurisdiction Section ==

Doesn't this section belong more under the court's martial page? [[User:Chefs-kiss|Chefs-kiss]] ([[User talk:Chefs-kiss|talk]]) 12:13, 5 April 2023 (UTC)