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==Excorcist==
>>> The article states "The opening theme, which was eventually chosen for the 1973 film The Exorcist, gained the record considerable publicity and is how many people have probably first heard the work."   Does 99.99999999999% constitute "many"?  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/208.67.104.4|208.67.104.4]] ([[User talk:208.67.104.4|talk]]) 16:52, 16 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:99.99% does constitute many but in contrast to this figure, many is not simply invented out of thin air. Maybe most in 1973 first heard it in the film, but since the day the record has long overshadowed the film. [[User:Str1977|Str1977]] [[User talk:Str1977|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:36, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
== "Plus Tubular Bells" lyric dispute ==
''That's not "Plus tubular bells" (classic cut-n-pasted miscreant misquote), that's not "Glass tubular bells" (though sounding close), please listen to the actual track at 22:50-55 before changing this: brass... tubular... bells!''

Well, I've listened to the actual track, and the 2003 version with John Cleese as MC and it seems to me that it's "Plus... tubular bells". Furthermore, in the discography by Richard Carter hosted at mikeoldfield.org [http://www.mikeoldfield.org/info/discography/tbells.htm it says "Plus"], and it seems a quite reliable source. Whadayathink? :)

I agree with the above. I've listened to it and I can't hear it being anything else than "Plus". Also, due to the evidence of the 2003 version as well as that website which is, to my knowledge, one of the best sources of accurate information on Mike Oldfield, that the main article should be edited to show this. [[User:Bennity|Bennity]] 02:43, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Of course it's "plus"!NH[[Special:Contributions/78.147.153.185|78.147.153.185]] ([[User talk:78.147.153.185|talk]]) 17:38, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

According to my knowledge, Mike Oldfield tried to sell the first version of Tubular Bells to different music labels, but all refused to release it. When he met Richard Branson, Branson decided, together with Nik Powell that they will take the chance to publish the record, because they were convinced, that this could be sold successfully. This record was the economical basis for Virgin Records and Bransons further business success story. Could anyone confirm or correct this or it this just a myth? [[User:Floridaadler|Floridaadler]] 09:21, 21 Febuary 2006 (UTC)

The timeline is somewhat  different. The album was recorded in Richard Branson's Studio, The Manor. Mike Oldfield took up residence there and recorded as and when there was available down time in the sudio. This allowed him to record it without any backer to pay for the costs. When the Album failed to attract interest from established record labels, Branson decided to release it as the first Virgin Records Album. But Branson essentially mentored Mike Oldfield and provided the support for him to create, reherse and record in the studio.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/109.155.245.106|109.155.245.106]] ([[User talk:109.155.245.106#top|talk]]) 23:41, 20 January 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Floridaadler, you´re right in that this recording became the basis of the virgin empire, at least in the beginning. But they weren´t too convinced that it would be succesful, and after they recorded it they tried to sell it to a music label at the MIDEM in Cannes, being only Mercury Records (the one mike is with now) interested on it, but requiring mike to add vocals on it.

They didn´t like it, so Branson thought that, as he already had considered to launch virgin music stores' own label, that could be its first album. But without too much hope on it... 

Geltrú.

I didn't think it was called virgin music stores until after Virgin Records became successful - the name Virgin records comes from it being a label for "virgin" artists - i.e. artists that haven't had record deals before. They didn't stick to this, but AFAIK, that was the origin of the name, and it just stuck. The significance of this album for the Virgin empire is significant enough that the airline has named an aircraft after it [[http://www.pbase.com/airlinerphotos/image/6591714 Tubular Belle]].

Also, shouldn't "Tublar Bells (edit)" be mentioned, which was released as a single.

[[User:Rjmunro|Rjmunro]] 14:50, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

:Actually, the first Virgin record store (under the Virgin name) opened at least two (possibly three) years ''before'' Virgin Records and ''Tubular Bells'' were launched.  According to the [http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/home/ London ''Evening Standard''], the name "Virgin" comes from the (alleged) "fact" that Branson is sex-obsessed, although since the ''Standard'' is a tabloid this claim should be taken with a pinch of salt pending further research. -- [[Special:Contributions/217.171.129.69|217.171.129.69]] ([[User talk:217.171.129.69|talk]]) 05:36, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

:If anyone wants a quote (from page 116 of Richard Branson's autobiography "Losing My Virginity", Revised Edition, {{ISBN|1740511832}}) "Although Simon [Draper] and I [Richard Branson] loved Mike's music, we never thought that we'd make any money from it". [[User:Yay unto the Chicken|Yay unto the Chicken]] 02:23, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

::Heh.  When I read that an airplane was named after this album, I immediately thought of the iconic knotted airplane of the film [[Airplane!]]. --[[User:205.201.141.146|205.201.141.146]] 22:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

==Title==
It has been mentioned in many bios', and by Oldfield himself, that the original title of the piece was "Opus 1" and in fact in his original home recording there were no tubular bells. Shouldn't this be noted in the article?  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/209.255.249.210|209.255.249.210]] ([[User talk:209.255.249.210|talk]]) 10:44, 3 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: It is already mentioned, if you read the [[Tubular Bells#The recording sessions|recording sessions]] section. [[User:TubularWorld|TubularWorld]] ([[User talk:TubularWorld|talk]]) 16:43, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

::Whatever the state of the article was in 2010, it no longer defines what Opus 1 is. The article mention it six times but nowhere defines if it's a section of TB, and which one, or the whole thing. A clear and unambiguous definition of Opus 1 needs to be added.[[User:ToaneeM|ToaneeM]] ([[User talk:ToaneeM|talk]]) 09:32, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

:::It's stated in the [[Tubular Bells#Background|background]] that Oldfield had recorded several demos including ''a longer piece he had provisionally titled "Opus One"'', and that Richard Branson encouraged him to record it professionally at The Manor. What emerged from that session would be a developed version of the 'Opus 1' demo. You probably couldn't point at any part of TB and say "that's Opus 1", but I would guess that Part 1 is mostly Opus 1, and Part 2 was written during the recording sessions. [[User:Halmyre|Halmyre]] ([[User talk:Halmyre|talk]]) 15:46, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

::::I did read through it carefully before pointing out that Opus 1 isn't defined. Article readers don't know what's going on. The article should define or explain Opus 1, that's its responsibility if it's going to later refer to it six times. The article needs to be fixed. But by someone who knows: adding guesswork text makes it worse.[[User:ToaneeM|ToaneeM]] ([[User talk:ToaneeM|talk]]) 13:56, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

:::::I'm sorry you seem to have some difficulty with the article as it is currently written, ToaneeM. I jest went back and re-read all the places where "Opus One" is mentioned. It all looks perfectly clear to me, as is the reason the title was changed to "Tubular Bells". Not sure what to suggest. [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 14:30, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::Glad you took a look and found it, @MartinEvans123. Please can you quote the article text that told you specifically what 'Opus 1' is. Does that text tell you if it's a section of TB and, if so, which one? Or does it say all of TB evolved from it? I couldn't find it in our encyclopedia, so I think others can't. That seems just as clear to me but I've laboured my point enough. Don't you get me wrong - I only wanna know. Thanks and please do paste the text. [[User:ToaneeM|ToaneeM]] ([[User talk:ToaneeM|talk]]) 21:12, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
::::::There is not just one piece of text. It starts with {{tq|"The demos comprised three shorter melodies ...  and a longer piece he had provisionally titled "Opus One."}} but there is then a narrative that provides the explanation. There is no explanation of "which part of TB" Opus One became but, as [[User:Halmyre|Halmyre]] suggest above, it may be hard to determine this, but it's ''probably'' most of Part 1. No more to offer here, sorry. [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 22:33, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
::::::Sure @Martinevans123 and hence my original point stands. Many other WP articles explain similar evolution of early pieces to final releases but more clearly. Here, "Opus 1" is referred to in six places but not defined or even introduced, so the article has a clear deficiency. None of us know the answer, so we'd make it worse adding guess-text. Someone who does know will eventually come along and correct it. Meanwhile, I'll sign off here, thanks for talking :-) [[User:ToaneeM|ToaneeM]] ([[User talk:ToaneeM|talk]]) 22:52, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

== Klingon Lyrics ==

One piece has a series of lyrics that sounds like they're sung in [[Klingon language|Klingon]].  I would certainly welcome a discussion on this matter; the current article fails to mention it entirely.

--[[User:Pjf|Pjf]] 04:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

The vocal passage that you are referring to in Part Two is indeed discussed here. These vocals by Mike are credited as "Piltdown Man".

EPC

This is what sounds like "shuggah wah nath dog wah now!"
This is clearly a part of the influence of the music being included in the soundtrack of the Exorcist, IMHO. The book calls for the girl to scream blasphemies, which could not be played and accepted by very many listeners. The fact that it says "dog" is clear evidence that it is backward-masked English for God. I have Adobe Audition, which allows reverse playing; I have heard the "Hidden Message" in Pink Floyd's "Empty Spaces". I will have to load in Tubular Bells, reverse it, and see if I can give a transcription here. [[User:Nirigihimu|Nirigihimu]] 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think that you are right there. Tubular Bells wasn't written for the Exorcist and I believe that Mike wasn't even told about its inclusion until the film came out. --[[User:80.229.152.246|80.229.152.246]] 16:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
: Mike would have had to have been told because to do otherwise would have been copyright violation. I'm in the entertainment bizness; tis Simply Not Done. The current "Sopranos" commercial using the song "Don't Stop" is costing A&E big freaking money baby.... Here is the best transscription I've been able to get, keeping in mind the cd is relatively new issue and could have been edited: 
"I wanna fuck (hush!?)" repeated about 4x; the hush also sounds as if it could be "wash", "Elvis", and "boys", or all four, in that order.
"Hush, hush, hush" or whatever about 3 times,
howls and screams,
"I wanna fuck,
I wanna fuck!"
more howls and screams
"Hush, hush, hush!" 
howls and screams.
I did not find any mention of the name of Jesus, which is the in the book by Wm. Peter Blatty. Have a nice day! [[User:Nirigihimu|Nirigihimu]] 19:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

:Mike did not have to asked (theoretically), as he is not the copyright holder, Virgin-Emi is! [[User:TubularWorld|TubularWorld]] 20:16, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

::I'm reasonably sure it's a Klingon love song --[[User:Huffers|Huffers]] ([[User talk:Huffers|talk]]) 23:35, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

::There's one major flaw with this argument; Klingon, in the form which we are discussing, was not used in the Star Trek universe until the first motion picture in 1979. Of course Tubular Bells precedes this incarnation of Klingon by 6/7 years. [[User:SkeletorUK|SkeletorUK]] ([[User talk:SkeletorUK|talk]]) 23:40, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

:Re. [[User:Nirigihimu|Nirigihimu]]'s first comment, does this mean that ''every'' reference to dogs (in whatever context) is a disguised religious/blasphemous reference?  I don't think so.  (And to my mind "blasphemy" is more or less a null concept anyway, as most so-called "blasphemers" aren't taking the name of ''their'' God in vain.) -- [[Special:Contributions/217.171.129.69|217.171.129.69]] ([[User talk:217.171.129.69|talk]]) 05:24, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

::Some more info that may be helpful: [[Piltdown Man]] is the skull of a prehistoric caveman found in England, which turned out to be a hoax.  Click the link for info.  I've always thought of Mike's vocals as caveman talk inspired by Scottish and Welsh languages.  As to whether he's actually saying anything, the only thing I can hear is "shove it!" near the end, but given the other things you people are hearing, your guesses are as good as mine.  In the 1960s, Mike and his brother Terry were in a short-lived rock band called Barefeet (or Barefoot; I've seen both names in "official" biographies) and did a song called "Growling Song" which contained incomprehensible vocals, and is supposedly the inspiration for the Piltdown Man section; however there are no recordings (as far as we know) of this or any other Barefeet songs, so it's not known if it's really the same song.  Back to Tubular Bells, nobody ever seems to point out the backing vocals, which are clearing chanting "boot leg" (and later, "leg boot").  Back when Virgin Records was a record importing and mail order distribution company, Richard Branson got arrested for selling bootleg records, so this is Mike's dig at his new boss.  Also note that the dog on the Hergest Ridge album cover is credited as "Bootleg, the Irish Wolfhound from the Manor".  Obviously, Branson's employees were allowed to joke about the situation.  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:A Knight Who Says Ni|A Knight Who Says Ni]] ([[User talk:A Knight Who Says Ni|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/A Knight Who Says Ni|contribs]]) 01:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

I can't believe none of you have tried listening to that section backwards.  Piltdown Man is almost perfectly intelligible if you play it in reverse.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/75.92.57.196|75.92.57.196]] ([[User talk:75.92.57.196|talk]]) 11:39, 20 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Bracketed note on alleged drunkenness ==

This needs to be handled better somehow:
:[* - Note this is baseless rumour and has since passed into urban folklore] 
Can someone please a) find a reference, and b) improve how this info is incorporated in the article?  As it stands it's bad form.  [[User:18.173.1.42|18.173.1.42]] 15:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

== Tubular Bells and the Mail on Sunday ==

In the UK, a copy of the original studio recording of this album was given away with the Mail on Sunday on 22 April 2007. [[User:217.43.197.166|217.43.197.166]] 12:17, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

:I'm not sure weather to include info on the mail on sunday givaway - the only reason to, would be the fact that mike wasnt asked about it before hand. [[User:Mankind 2k|Mankind 2k]] 16:30, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

== Meter ==
Actually, the first part is not entirely in 7/8. Let's say every note played is 1/16th, then it is 7/16 - 7/16 - 7/16 - 9/16. Listen closely, after 3 repeats of the 7/16 riff, it is repeated with two additional notes, making it 30/16 altogether. Of course, if every played note counts as 1/32nd then we would have 30/32 altogether, which reads better. I will correct this soon. Regards, [[User:84.56.125.45|84.56.125.45]] 08:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC) MikeB

I agree with this reading - (3 x 7) + (1 x 9) - it all adds up to 30 which gives 15/8, but 7 + 8 is not the 'feel' that I hear, rather, 3 'shorts' + 1 long...i.e. (4 + 3) + (4 + 3) + (4 + 3) + (4 + 2 + 3)...comments please? 

The first bar is actually in 7/8 then a bar of 8/8. Which overall is 15/8. Mike explains this on page 111 of his Autobiography, Changeling. [[User:Mankind 2k|Mankind 2k]] 16:33, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 
                                                                         
la-mi-si-mi-sol-la-mi  do-mi-re-mi-si-do-mi (7/8) + si-mi-la-mi-si-mi-sol-la   mi-do-mi-re-mi-si-do-mi (4/4)  [[User:Horacio Aguilar|Horacio Aguilar]] 23:42, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

MikeB has it correct. Find the sheet music and the guitar tabs and you'll see. Though I've seen it quoted as 7/8 7/8 7/8 9/8. The fact that it adds up to "30" as someone says above, makes sense I guess for the "15/8" argument, but yeah if you listen to all four bars, the last one certainly has an extra beat in there so I'd argue for the 9/8 change. The leading note will fool you, so don't forget to put the leading note in the previous measure when you are counting :).
[[User:feelie75]] 5:53am, 16 Sep 2006 (UTC)

:(one leading 16th:)...   '''+ | A+B+GA+ | C+D+BC+ | A+B+GA+ | C+D+BC+B+ |''' If you read note names and + (as E or "and"), and add them up, it's 7/16 - 7/16 - 7/16 - 9/16. (or eights, if the smallest division is 1/8) The bar division is |2+3+2|2+3+2|2+3+2|2+3+4| I've only seen it that way in transcriptions.  (Horacio's version has one eight too many in the third bar and misses one eight in the fourth bar btw.) In the Autobiography version, the stress wold be on the melody notes for the first riff, then on the e's for the next, then on the melody notes, then again on the e's, which doesn't make sense at all. Mathematically it's the same (7/16 + 7/16 = 7/8 and 7/16 + 9/16 = 8/8), but musically it's a totally different rhythm.  -- [[User:MegA|megA]] ([[User talk:MegA|talk]]) 17:04, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

::Indeed.  I cannot hear the opening riff as anything other than 7+7+7+9.  Well, actually, I've always "felt" the opening 7 as a kind of "pickup", so that the melody feels like 7+7+9+7, but that's clearly my own problem, and not what Oldfield intended.  Which makes me wonder whether I ''could'' hear it as a slower 7+8, and that I might be just "stuck" on the 7779 reading.  Anyway, this can't go into the article, because it's original research.  I'm very surprised that Oldfield explicitly plumps for 7+8 in the autobiography, but if that's what he says, that's what we have to go with. [[User:ACW|ACW]] ([[User talk:ACW|talk]]) 23:32, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

::This is genuinely fascinating, because I can't hear it as anything other than 7,8,7,8.... So interesting how the same piece comes across so many different ways to different listeners.... [[User:PurpleChez|PurpleChez]] ([[User talk:PurpleChez|talk]]) 17:03, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

== Castle in the Pyrenees ==

Was Trevor Key really inspired by Magritte's "Castle in the Pyrenees" or is it just very similar? They are almost identical, but i have found no real references for it. Anyone know for sure? [[User:Mankind 2k|Mankind 2k]] 16:28, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

== Bad wikipedia ==
Wow, lets fuck up wikipedia with lame dhtml - why the hell is there suddenly a "contents" field floating over the text (bad design that is why) hopefully this will go away and a return to proper normal html will be seen.

== Controversy Section ==

Magma drummer/leader Christian Vander claims that Oldfield had listened to Magma record before he wrote the album, and that Oldfield stole some of Magma's music in Tubular Bells.  He has stated so in several interviews, such as I have reproduced below:
"A man called Mike Oldfield did steal my music - to be more precise, extracts from "Mekanik" and "La Dawotsin". When we recorded "Mekanik Kommandoh" in 1972, Oldfield was waiting for recording "Tubular bells", which is in fact an extract from my music. I played this music for him, without guessing that h would steal it for him."
Source:http://members.aol.com/sleeplessz/batmag.htm

Perhaps this could be incorporated into a Controversy section.  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.84.181.248|67.84.181.248]] ([[User talk:67.84.181.248|talk]]) 08:46, August 28, 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:What section of Tubular Bells to be exact? As there is recorded demo evidence that Oldfield recorded some sections in 1971, a year before this ''supposed'' ripping off... These 1971 demos are available on the DVD-A of TB2003. [[User:TubularWorld|TubularWorld]] 15:50, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

:P.S. Wikipedia is also not meant to have any Polemical statements, as it is an encyclopedia. Tbh if this Vander fellow was actually serious about Oldfield ''stealing'' his work, there would have been a law suit, and as there hasn't been, all of this is just hear-say really... [[User:TubularWorld|TubularWorld]] 16:38, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

== Bad intro section ==

I feel that this article's intro section should be entirely rewritten to more generalize the content of the article. It should say at least SOMEthing about the influence this album has had on the music industry. [[User:Tubularbells1993|Tubularbells1993]] ([[User talk:Tubularbells1993|talk]]) 19:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

: I'll make a new draft intro in the next few days, and see how it looks. --[[User:TubularWorld|TubularWorld]] ([[User talk:TubularWorld|talk]]) 21:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

:This subject may be more appropriate in the "significance" section.  TB1993, what do you recommend the changes say?  I'm not really sure if it had a great influence worldwide, unless you are thinking of it being a contributing factor to the development of world music as a popular genre, which seems to have happened a decade later.  TB certainly had a major influence on how the Virgin label developed, but did it really influence the industry as a whole, and did it have much of an impact in the USA?  I always thought of TB as an album that should have had more influence than it did, as it seemed to point to a new dirction progressive rock could take, but prog rock was on the decline by 1973, and its styles firmly established, so I don't think other classic bands were too influenced by it. --[[User:A Knight Who Says Ni|A Knight Who Says Ni]] ([[User talk:A Knight Who Says Ni|talk]]) 17:57, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

::What I meant was, per [[WP:LEAD]], it doesn't adequately summarize the article. I'm not saying its impact was too drastic, but it still deserves a mention there. Instead of mentioning the album's success in brief, it jumps straight into Vivian Stanshall and his work. It should hook the reader rather than going off into something best mentioned elsewhere in the article. Just generally, it needs a rewrite. I am not entirely sure what it would look like but it might say something like, "The work has been sampled continuously many times by many artists," and goes off to name a few (particularly the biggest ones) rather than having an [[Wikipedia:Trivia sections|unnecessary trivia section]] that takes up a large amount of the article (and a bigger danger being most of it [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|is not sourced]]). [[User:Tubularbells1993|Tubularbells1993]] ([[User talk:Tubularbells1993|talk]]) 04:29, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

:::I presumed you meant influence regarding style, and how it affected subsequent music by others.  I'm not sure sampling is notable demonstration of influence, and I think I might prefer examples to be mentioned in a cover versions section, perhaps titled "covers and sampling".  Regarding the problem of sourcing info about cover versions, I usually look to see if I can find it referenced at the artist or album page at WP (which should be wikilinked, and I add the link if it's missing), and if I can't find it, I remove it.  If someone really wants to have it added to the article, they should repond by finding a source.  If we're going to mention sampling, we should mention that [[Amarok]] contains a strange sample in which Mike took the entire 50 minutes of TB and compressed it into something like 1 second (or maybe it's a little longer?) and used it as an instrument sound.  (Read it in a fanzine interview with Mike, should be possible to source; I'll do a search of the dusty archives if necessary.) --[[User:A Knight Who Says Ni|A Knight Who Says Ni]] ([[User talk:A Knight Who Says Ni|talk]]) 11:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

bumting maytee ;)

== Esso Commercial ==

The opening part was also used, I believe, in a commercial for Esso in the mid-70's. It featured a tiger romping through deep snow in slow motion.  Probably a lot of people in England heard the piece via this commercial before The Exorcist ever came out...  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.193.128.193|67.193.128.193]] ([[User talk:67.193.128.193|talk]]) 08:03, 22 August 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Single version ==
The current text reads, in part:
{{"|The single was released only in the US, where it peaked at #7 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart on May 11, 1974, making Oldfield a One Hit Wonder on the US charts.}}
I purchased the single in Canada when it was first released, and it was identical to the U.S. version.  The above text should perhaps be altered to read "only released in the US and Canada."  Comments welcome. The News Hound 12:47, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

:I'm not seeing the actual name of the US single anywhere here.  Was it just called "Tubular Bells"?  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/108.202.33.17|108.202.33.17]] ([[User talk:108.202.33.17#top|talk]]) 05:59, 17 October 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::Yes - https://www.discogs.com/master/558502-Mike-Oldfield-Tubular-Bells. [[User:Richard3120|Richard3120]] ([[User talk:Richard3120|talk]]) 09:52, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

==Bad Essay==
Most of this article now reads like a bad essay for music theory class or something! The is wikipedia! No original research please![[Special:Contributions/67.190.86.13|67.190.86.13]] ([[User talk:67.190.86.13|talk]]) 19:37, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

== Piano Solo on Side 2 ==

The first version of Tubular Bells that I ever heard was on vinyl with the length of each side printed on the record. This was a used copy that I heard in 1979 or 1980. It contained a piano solo before the Sailor's Hornpipe section. The piano solo disappeared from later editions (which also removed the times for each side). However, the piano solo later re-appeared elsewhere as "The Theme from Cosmos" credited to Vangelis. Does anyone know the story behind the disappearing piano solo? It would be great if an explanation could be added to the Wikipedia entry.[[User:Kmarkus|Kmarkus]] ([[User talk:Kmarkus|talk]]) 18:51, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

== Tubular Bells/L's theme ==

For those of you who don't know, [[Death Note]] is a very famous anime about a man who despises evil and founds a notebook who can kill persons if the name is written upon it. This series makes theme songs for almost every main character. One of the characters (called "L") has his own theme song which is strikingly similar to Tubular Bells. Should we put that on the article? Because is an incredible resemblance. I'll leave you a link to discuss: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYqBjBNcvqs  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/201.204.39.210|201.204.39.210]] ([[User talk:201.204.39.210|talk]]) 15:08, 21 April 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:No. It's listkruft and [[WP:OR]]. [[User:TJRC|TJRC]] ([[User talk:TJRC|talk]]) 18:00, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

== Another Happy Hardcore song that uses the intro ==

Could 'You and Me' by SHM be included in the cover versions list? It is another happy hardcore song involving the original song's opening melody - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeL6Y7Dwad4#t=50 --[[User:Arpaleggia|Arpaleggia]] ([[User talk:Arpaleggia|talk]]) 15:48, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

== Piltdown Man? ==

In the list of instruments that MO played, it lists "Piltdown Man", but it links to the article about the fossil.  Is this correct?[[Special:Contributions/194.28.125.14|194.28.125.14]] ([[User talk:194.28.125.14|talk]]) 04:13, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

== A NEW YORK CITY Moment for Tubular Bells ==

In NYC during the late 1980's and early 1990's there was a mime who performed every Sunday (perhaps other days as well but unbeknownst to us) in front of The Metropolitan Museum of Art on Fifth Avenue, (80th to 84th Street), using Tubular Bells as his musical theme. It was about a 15 minute performance that he would repeat over the course of the day. He was quite good - very dramatic and mysterious - dressed head-to-toe in white, as I recall - with that eerie ethereal TB music piping forth from his portable CD player. My young son and I made that visit practically every Sunday and we were transfixed by that performance. I would love to get a message to him - wherever he is now - that he is fondly and pleasantly remembered.  
[[User:Hperess|Hperess]] ([[User talk:Hperess|talk]]) 05:33, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

== Robert Christgau review ==

I don't feel that this review is worthy of a link, as it is obvious to me that Christgau didn't listen to more than 5 minutes of TB before writing the review. Of course, I suppose it does balance the list of reviews somewhat. I'm just bothered by the obvious lack of effort on the reviewer's part. --<span style="outline:1px dotted #d1bfa4;"><span style="color:#ffffff;">&#124;</span> [[User:Uncle Milty|<span style="color:#000051;">'''Uncle Milty'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:Uncle Milty|<span style="color:#005c00;">talk</span>]] <span style="color:#ffffff;">&#124;</span></span> 12:34, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

== Number what? ==
From the article:
''The newly founded Virgin Records released Oldfield's debut album Tubular Bells as its first album; hence the catalogue number V2001.''

Um... why "2001"?  If it was their first album, why not '''V1''' or '''V0001''' or something similar?  The album was released nearly three decades before the ''year'' 2001, so that's not an explanation.  But if this number is of some significance, then this statement does require some further explanation.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.206.185.142|67.206.185.142]] ([[User talk:67.206.185.142|talk]]) 05:20, 6 August 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::Probably 'V2001' just because they could. 'V1xx1' for some releases (are there any?) and 'V2xx1' for LPs. [[User:AMCKen|AMCKen]] ([[User talk:AMCKen|talk]]) 07:57, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
:::I'm guessing '2001' as a reference to the film? After Tubular Bells the sequence continued upwards from V2001 (V2002 was Gong's 'Flying Teapot') with the odd variation. AFAIK, there were never any V1xxx albums. Singles were VS-1xx. [[User:Halmyre|Halmyre]] ([[User talk:Halmyre|talk]]) 17:10, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

==Charting==
Hit #1 in Canada before any other country? [[User:AMCKen|AMCKen]] ([[User talk:AMCKen|talk]]) 07:57, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

There are at least 6 versions of Tubular Bells on vinyl. This one is missing in the article:
http://www.quadraphonicquad.com/QQ-bells.htm

:No, it'll just be a regional variation of the standard quad mix, or a variation thereof. It's not going to be a different version [[User:Halmyre|Halmyre]] ([[User talk:Halmyre|talk]]) 20:52, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

There is also mix with the additional aircraft noise at the end of the album released on the picture disc, I have it.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Eder~plwiki|Eder~plwiki]] ([[User talk:Eder~plwiki#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Eder~plwiki|contribs]]) 16:14, 17 October 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Possible GA==

I don't know if anybody apart from {{u|TubularWorld}} is really looking at this article on a regular basis, but looking ahead I think this ought to be a good candidate for GA. There's a lot of good information here already – it's the presentation and order of it that needs work, to my mind... just looking at the contents list makes my head hurt. I won't be able to get there for some months (maybe not for a year), but I have access to the British Library so I could probably get hold of old copies of ''NME'', ''Melody Maker'', etc. from 1973 and find if they have any original reviews of the album – a critical reception section seems to be the major thing that's missing. Any thoughts or suggestions? [[User:Richard3120|Richard3120]] ([[User talk:Richard3120|talk]]) 01:47, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

:{{ping|Richard3120}} I haven't listened to the album in ages until just now, so I thought I'd take a look at the article. I've trimmed down a lot of repetition and started to reorganise it; most of the "Recording" section is basically covered by the liner notes to the 1998 reissue, and presumably the others after that. I don't know where my copy of that CD has gone, so I've only got the original vinyl at the moment (so I can cite the "old tin boxes" but not much else). Anyway, huge amount of work required to get close to GA, but worth doing as the article in its current shape isn't very good. I think {{u|Martinevans123}} will probably be interested in lending a hand. [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 17:41, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

::He'll probably just [[Moonlight Shadow|breeze in]] at the last minute when all the hard work has been done. [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 17:48, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Ritchie333}} {{ping|Martinevans123}} Guys, I'm very sorry... as you can see from my edit history, I've been away from Wikipedia for the last eight months (various reasons) and only just seen these posts. Before my sabbatical I had started rewriting and reorganising the article [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Richard3120/sandbox here in my sandbox], but as Martin says, you have probably done the hard work by now. I don't know if either of you have any comments on what I have written (whether any of it can still be used). I should be back in the UK in September and I'm planning to go to the British Library and dig out some more reviews of the album, both from 1973/74 and from the subsequent reissues. And I promise not to leave it another eight months to reply to your comments... apologies again. [[User:Richard3120|Richard3120]] ([[User talk:Richard3120|talk]]) 21:18, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
::::<small>Actually, no. I was being typically sarcastic. [[Call Me the Breeze|I meant me]]. [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 21:21, 5 July 2017 (UTC) :) </small>
:::::I know you were Martin, I've been here long enough to recognise your sense of humour. ;-) But it's still true, you've both been working on the article in my absence and I'm not sure what I've done is of any use now – any comments greatly appreciated. [[User:Richard3120|Richard3120]] ([[User talk:Richard3120|talk]]) 21:41, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

{{ping|Richard3120}} I can't remember why I was talking about this with somebody the other day (probably something to do with "guitars sounding like bagpipes"), but I've done a bit more work on the article. I still think it needs a bit of a trim in places, and we need more sources, but it's finally coming together for a GA. One sticking point, the BBC4 documentary is probably one of the best sources we can get, but unless it's been released commercially or is available for anyone to watch at any point, I have a nagging doubt it falls foul of our verifiability policies. I just tried to access it on the BBC website, but it's not available. You can get, er, "other" versions on YouTube but that's also problematic. I can't remember the specifics. [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 00:14, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
:{{re|Ritchie333}} completely agree with you, it is a problem. These programmes are often repeated on TV (the Oldfield documentary has certainly been repeated on BBC Four at least once since its original 2013 broadcast), and sometimes made available again for a limited period to watch via the BBC website, so it might pass verifiability on account of occasionally being available to watch officially. The BBC does the same with its "Classic Albums" radio series from the 1980s onwards, which were originally broadcast on [[BBC Radio 1]] and now get regular airings on [[BBC 6 Music]] and occasionally streamed for limited periods on the BBC website.
:The article itself it could do with a thorough revision and copyediting – the sections that are still problematic, to my mind, are the various releases on vinyl, SACD, HDCD, etc. (quite audiophile nerdy, and not well sourced), the "other works by Mike Oldfield" (again unsourced, and some questionable statements... the Piltdown Man is Oldfield's "trademark instrument" – really, even more than his guitar?) and the "cover versions" section, almost all of which is poorly sourced and could probably go – most are just interpolations by various artists of the famous opening bars of the introduction, which is hardly a "cover version" of the 49-minute album... at best the only notable versions are the 'Tubular Bells for Two' and the version for four pianos, and even then it would depend on finding credible sources for them. [[User:Richard3120|Richard3120]] ([[User talk:Richard3120|talk]]) 00:38, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

== "Live Performance" section ==

Reference to "Jeff Leig (flute)".... this should be 'Geoff Leigh" surely? Of Henry Cow fame - the flautist/sax player who joined the rest of H Cow to back Oldfield on early performances - inc the 1973 BBC broadcast.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/109.147.59.129|109.147.59.129]] ([[User talk:109.147.59.129#top|talk]]) 18:48, 27 November 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:It is indeed Geoff Leigh, but his name was misspelled on the original programme for the performance. I will add a note about this when the article is updated. [[User:Richard3120|Richard3120]] ([[User talk:Richard3120|talk]]) 01:48, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

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== "use in The Exorcist" section ==

I've been binge-watching The Exorcist recently. It had been a while since I'd seen it, and the first few times through I was really surprised by how Tubular Bells is NOT a major presence in the film. In my memory, it was playing as Father Merrin arrives at the MacNeil home, bathed in that shaft of light. But in reality it plays for a few moments as Ellen Burstyn walks through a sunny Georgetown afternoon, and in the background on two or three other very brief instances. Anyhow... after thinking of it as "the Exorcist theme" since I was a teenager I'm now curious as to how what is - at most - a few moments of incidental music became one of the most iconic musical themes in movie history. [[User:PurpleChez|PurpleChez]] ([[User talk:PurpleChez|talk]]) 03:30, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
:You are right – as it states in the text, it is only played twice in the whole film, and both times it's for only a few seconds. But such is its association with the film now, and as a recognisable motif for "scary moment coming up" in so many TV shows and films since, it's worth mentioning. [[User:Richard3120|Richard3120]] ([[User talk:Richard3120|talk]]) 13:44, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Purely from memory, I read a long time ago that director William Friedkin, was having trouble getting suitable music from the composer, Lalo Schifrin, and Friedkin went and got a copy of Tubular Bells and played the intro to Schifrin, saying that he wanted "something like this".  Whether Schifrin retorted "Well why don't you just use that?" I really can't remember but the important thing is that TB had already been released and Friedkin heard a copy.  This is backed up by this quote from Friedkin from the "Dangerous Minds" website:

"After listening to and discarding everything after a few bars, I came across a track called “Tubular Bells” by someone named Mike Oldfield on a new label in England, Virgin Records. After the opening motif, which I found haunting, the rest of the track was a kind of demonstration of the sound made by various bells. But, that opening motif, it was perfect." [[Special:Contributions/89.241.206.185|89.241.206.185]] ([[User talk:89.241.206.185|talk]]) 14:35, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

== Why were all informations about rereleases removed from article? ==

Earlier versions of article had info about 2009 editions https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tubular_Bells&oldid=1046820232#Track_listing  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/83.22.35.71|83.22.35.71]] ([[User talk:83.22.35.71#top|talk]]) 15:07, 18 December 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: Because they were unsourced - all information on Wikipedia must come from verifiable sources. Also, it's not very important to list every single release version of an album - Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a listings directory: see [[WP:NOTDIRECTORY]]. [[User:Richard3120|Richard3120]] ([[User talk:Richard3120|talk]]) 16:22, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
:How did the 2009 editions vary? Why were they notable? Thanks. [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 16:48, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

== World record ==

Was the amount of instruments (28) a record in itself for Mike oldfield during the making of tubular bells [[User:Nicolausbovill72|Nicolausbovill72]] ([[User talk:Nicolausbovill72|talk]]) 09:47, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
:No idea, but I doubt it... I'm sure classical music albums have far more instruments on them. You'll have to be more specific. [[User:Richard3120|Richard3120]] ([[User talk:Richard3120|talk]]) 01:32, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

== Also done by Book Of Love ==

Tubular Bells was also remade by the 80’s Goth-Synth band  Book Of Love. [[Special:Contributions/2601:645:E7E:1250:24CB:4FE9:BEA:3D3E|2601:645:E7E:1250:24CB:4FE9:BEA:3D3E]] ([[User talk:2601:645:E7E:1250:24CB:4FE9:BEA:3D3E|talk]]) 03:40, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
:But if it isn't notable, then it's not worth mentioning - it needs to pass [[WP:SONGCOVER]]. [[User:Richard3120|Richard3120]] ([[User talk:Richard3120|talk]]) 19:43, 4 June 2024 (UTC)