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Hi there,
Lee Hazlewood himself recorded "These Boots Are Made For Walkin'", unfortunately I don't know the year when it happened (some sources say 1966, but I'm not sure), but well, it should be added here.
-andy

[[User:217.94.164.46|217.94.164.46]] 2 July 2005 23:43 (UTC)
are complete lyrics legal here?
No, not if they're copyright (as they are here). --[[User:Mel Etitis|Mel Etitis]]  ([[User talk:Mel Etitis|<span style="color:green;">Μελ Ετητης</span>)]] 11:01, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

The release date given here (2/22/66) must be wrong.  The ARSA database shows that this song was appearing on radio station playlists as early as 12/24/65.

==Merge proposal==
It has often been pointed out that individual recordings of songs should be merged with the main article.  In this case, the article might seem too long, but most of it is an over-inflated description of a music video. --[[User:Mel Etitis|Mel Etitis]]  ([[User talk:Mel Etitis|<span style="color:green;">Μελ Ετητης</span>)]] 11:01, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
:Major ditto to the merge. I don't think any of the video description is necessary - I could see the point if the video was groundbreaking, controversial, etc.; but it is just Jessica's (ample) assets shaking for the camera. I'm not complaining, but it is far from encyclopedic. If you're really energetic, Mel, you might look into [[Take My Breath Away (Jessica Simpson single)]] as it is also a non-notable cover. If you are ''really'' feeling productive, [[Angels (Jessica Simpson single)]] is not only a cover single, but doesn't match any notability standards (peaked at "#106" on Hot 100, and outside top 20 on pop radio). [[User:Volatile|Volatile]] 02:42, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Your wish is my command. --[[User:Mel Etitis|Mel Etitis]]  ([[User talk:Mel Etitis|<span style="color:green;">Μελ Ετητης</span>)]] 22:04, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, Volatile, Nancy's assets were pretty respectable, too. See "Boobs" - er, I mean "Boots" - album cover. :-)<br />PS to Mel, yes, merge. - [[User:Rlw|Rlw]] [[User talk:Rlw|(Talk)]] 00:18, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes please merge, also shouldn't Jessica's "Sweetest Sin" a cover of Diane Warren's single. Couldn't that be merged too?

:I think the only thing that should be mentioned about the video is the name of the director, and it shouldn't be in its own paragraph. Now we have two paragraphs of text and charts information. This is too little, they have to be merged somewhere. The text and the infobox could go to this article, the chart description to [[And The Band Played On (album)]]. -[[User:Hapsiainen|Hapsiainen]] 07:16, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
::Being '''bold''', I went ahead and merged the articles, seeing how there's a consensus here. [[User:Volatile|Volatile]] 18:10, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I have to disagree with this. The video was very controversial even to the point of having a Christian group yell at Jessica to remake the video. It also was a major hit too and is very well known for its music video and ties to The Dukes of Hazard. [[User:OmegaWikipedia|OmegaWikipedia]] 01:12, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
::Agree with [[User:OmegaWikipedia|OmegaWikipedia]]. The video was indeed controversial, as it was the final strike that separated Simpson from her previous bubble gum image (look at what both [[Britney Spears|Britney]] and [[Christina Aguilera|Christina]] did). The song was a modest hit, and due to it being the original song for a film, it deserves its own article, split from the original Nancy Sinatra version. --[[User:Winnermario|Winnermario]] 01:57, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree with OmegaWikipedia and Winnermario. The song was a hit across the world and is well-known for the controversy caused by its music video. Merging it would only bloat the article; therefore, they should be seperated. --[[User:Anittas|Anittas]] 04:57, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

:OmegaWikipedia has expanded the article. Now the song is analyzed in several paragraphs, which don't feel bloated. Good work, I can't any more be a mergist. But I still think that the video is described too detailedly. I wouldn't write so much about any music video despite its fame or influence. The videos are less than five minutes long. You can't see the wood for the trees, when you explain all that happens in a video. -[[User:Hapsiainen|Hapsiainen]] 13:56, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
::The J.S. article is very much bloated and very much unnecessary. However, since its proponents are very dedicated, I don't see a point of arguing logic to a chimp. As you wish, O/W/A. Ditto to what Hapsiainsen said about the video, but there is little one can do there that won't be reverted by the afformentioned O/W/A either. [[User:Volatile|Volatile]] 00:30, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't think the pages should be merged because the original by Nancy Sinatra has been known for decades and the only reason the Jessica Simpson version is popular now is due to the movie. In a year will the Jessica Simpson version be noted? Or just a blurb on a page. I think the two versions should stand on their own accord and their pages should reflect that. [[User:71.197.153.88|71.197.153.88]] 22:14, 15 January 2006 (UTC)soyoung

'''Keep separate'''. Merging them would create a big messy article.--[[User:Fallout boy|Fallout boy]] 23:24, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

'''Keep separate'''. Merging them would create a big messy article.--[[User:Grcampbell|Bob]] 02:07, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

'''Don't merge'''. As to many people would complain. [[user:ILovePlankton|<span style="color:red;">I</span>]][[user talk:ILovePlankton|<span style="color:orange;">Lov</span>]][[user:ILovePlankton/Esperanza|<span style="color:lime;">E</span>]][[Plankton]] 13:34, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I disagree with a merge.  There's no reason the two should be moved, and there's enough information about the Jessica Simpson version to allow for it's own article. --[[User:Badlydrawnjeff|badlydrawnjeff]] <small>([[Wikipedia:Notability (memes)|WP:MEMES?]])</small> 18:08, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

'''No Merge.''' There are two different artists and two different singles so let them keep their own pages even though it's the same song. --[[User:Stzr3|Stzr3]] 18:03, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
'''Definitely needs merger'''.  One song, one article. - [[User:Nunh-huh|Nunh-huh]] 22:12, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

:Definitely merge the two articles.  If we were to write an article about every controversial music video or song that a Christian group considered offensive, we'd never get anywhere.  Why should this particular video/song be any different from any other?  [[user:Spacini|Spacini]] 11:31, 30 July 2006

*'''Merge''' There's no reason not to do so. It may have information, but it still fits fine into the other article. Why should this be kept separate? It makes more sense to talk about it in the context of the song, not the context of the Jessica Simpson single. [[User:GassyGuy|GassyGuy]] 18:37, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' Articles should be merged as they are about the SONG.  Same goes for any other cover version.  -- [[User:Ericorbit|eo]] 00:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

'''DON'T MERGE''' It is neeeded for Jessica's chronology and her verison has had a lot of controversy, so why does it belong with the original? It is different. It should have it's own article. So there is no consensus.

:These article should not have been separated.  It is a Wikipedia guideline that articles are about SONGS and not SINGLES.  There is no reason why Jessica Simpson gets special treatment.  This "it's needed for her chronology" makes NO sense - it can still be part of her chronology and merged with the original, ''just like every other artist who has a cover version''.  - [[User:Ericorbit|eo]] 01:16, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

== Psychological weapon? ==

Correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't this song used to flush out some terrorists some time in the 1980s?  I think it might have been somewhere in Latin America, I'm not sure.  If I'm right then I think there should be some note of this (though i certainly wouldn't know how to find a record of it, myself).  If I'm wrong then I apologize for the mistake.
[[User:Mk623SC20K|Mk623SC20K]] 05:27, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Also used by the BATF during the standoff in Waco, Texas.  I remember reading that it was blared from speaker trucks circling the compound.  [[User:69.178.66.187|69.178.66.187]] 05:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

== Another cover ==

Another cover is [[it:Le Braghe Corte|Le Braghe Corte]]'s (an Italian group,) the video of which is featuring Italian and international porn star [[Rocco Siffredi]]. --[[User:Blazar|Blazar]].[[User_talk:Blazar|writeto()]] 10:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== Please remove info on Jessica Simpson's version ==
In an effort to make the world a better place, I suggest that all references to Jessica Simpson are deleted. Because it would be a better world without Jessica Simpson's voice. How about we simply pretend she doesn't exist? --[[Special:Contributions/201.9.92.254|201.9.92.254]] ([[User talk:201.9.92.254|talk]]) 04:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

:Unhelpful as the above comment is, I ''do'' think that Simpson's version snags a lot more content in the article relative to it's notoriety than a potential reader might be looking for.  Sinatra's original is by far the one most widely known, recognized, and thought of when people hear the song.  Not a comment against content for Simpson, but rather '''for''' Nancy Sinatra. ~ [[User:Amorymeltzer|Amory]] ([[User talk:Amorymeltzer|talk]]) 01:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
::Moreover, the section could use additional citations.~ [[User:Amorymeltzer|Amory]] ([[User talk:Amorymeltzer|talk]]) 02:00, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

There IS objectively too much info about the Jessica Simpson version, whether you like her or not. This version isn't relevant enough to deserve so much content. The article should mainly be about Sinatra's original version. --[[Special:Contributions/81.244.234.116|81.244.234.116]] ([[User talk:81.244.234.116|talk]]) 19:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Simpson's version shouldn't be removed, just moved and edited.  Also [[wp:NOR]].
[[User:Grimsooth|Grimsooth]] ([[User talk:Grimsooth|talk]]) 10:18, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

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== Symarip version is not a Ska version! ==

Symarip version is not a ska version but an early reggae version (skinhead reggae to some), they didn't make ska anymore in '69.
This is how ska sounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHVLYA6i4og
This is how early reggae sounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe3KvB8AT_c

You hear the different beat.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/217.123.67.72|217.123.67.72]] ([[User talk:217.123.67.72|talk]]) 10:20, 4 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== "written by" ==

This article says that the song was written by Nancy Sinatra. The article on [[Lee Hazlewood]] says he wrote it. Now who wrote it? What does it mean to "write" a song? And who cares if a song is actually written, except for those interested in sheet music?--[[Special:Contributions/217.232.193.1|217.232.193.1]] ([[User talk:217.232.193.1|talk]]) 09:59, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree. It says Nancy wrote the words. THere is no such credit on the records. I'm changing the article. [[User:George Slivinsky|George Slivinsky]] ([[User talk:George Slivinsky|talk]]) 22:51, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

== Megadeth version ==

I think it's important to note that Megadeth's version was only a track on their "[[Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!]]" album, not a single. Their first single as a band was "[[Wake Up Dead]]" off their next studio album. Currently on the page, it says "Single", which is not correct. I don't know what to do in order to correct that, but I assume someone does. Also, it is titled "These Boots", not "These Boots Are Made For Walkin'" as it currently displays. [[Special:Contributions/76.165.235.19|76.165.235.19]] ([[User talk:76.165.235.19|talk]]) 02:44, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
:Nevermind, I fixed it. [[Special:Contributions/76.165.235.19|76.165.235.19]] ([[User talk:76.165.235.19|talk]]) 03:09, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== "from the album"? ==

A general question about this crediting approach. I think the hit single comes first doesn't it? Then it gets placed on an album.
Related - just because a song is taken from an album doesn't make it the "album version", as many sites write.  [[User:George Slivinsky|George Slivinsky]] ([[User talk:George Slivinsky|talk]]) 23:06, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

== Feminist Anthem ==

One thing that I find interesting is that there is not a single mention of this song being embraced by the feminist movement of the 1960's / 1970's. This song seems to be a battle cry for women to overthrow their patriarchal oppressors and gain control of society. It's probably been used in a lot of protests and marches. Are there no clear links?  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.8.6.208|68.8.6.208]] ([[User talk:68.8.6.208|talk]]) 09:45, 5 March 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Song used in network coverage?  ==

I have some suspicions about this line: "During television news coverage in 1966/67, the song was aired as a soundtrack as the cameras focused on US Infantrymen on patrol during the Vietnam War."
Was this used in one network's report? If so, which network? 
I have problems envisioning the TV networks of 1966 using '''any''' popular song as a "soundtrack" to news footage. If it was done, article should say who did it and when.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.212.91.236|68.212.91.236]] ([[User talk:68.212.91.236|talk]]) 03:31, 18 April 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Genre ==

Rockabilly? Rock and roil?? Are you kiddin' me? ... with all that shiny brass going off?? [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 22:26, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
:I know it opens with a double bass line (and tambourine!), but is there any actual source for "Rockabilly"? [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 22:16, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
::No.  It was changed [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=These_Boots_Are_Made_for_Walkin%27&diff=649467630&oldid=643725351 here] by a now-blocked vandalism-only account, so I've now reverted it.   [[User:Ghmyrtle|Ghmyrtle]] ([[User talk:Ghmyrtle|talk]]) 22:21, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
:::Fair enough. But I'm hoping to ask the same question about "[[Traditional pop]]" (which sounds to me more like a genre insurance policy than a real genre!) [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 22:28, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
::::Pop?  Country?  Just [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rO6dt2zZ88 watch the video], and relive your youth....    [[User:Ghmyrtle|Ghmyrtle]] ([[User talk:Ghmyrtle|talk]]) 22:31, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
:::::Yay! Let's all have a [[Having a Rave Up with The Yardbirds|rave up]]! [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 09:00, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

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== add to pop culture ==

On the season finale of Supergirl, there was a commercial/promotion for Wonder Woman, featuring Melissa Benoist, Chyler Leigh, Teri Hatcher, and Lynda Carter, with this song playing in the background. I am not sure which cover was used for the song. [[User:JenniferRSong|JenniferRSong]] ([[User talk:JenniferRSong|talk]]) 06:49, 3 June 2017 (UTC) <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLlwgBuKymo</ref>

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== First Release ==

Boots Randolph first released an instrumental version of These Boots Are Made for Walking[[Special:Contributions/138.210.238.33|138.210.238.33]] ([[User talk:138.210.238.33|talk]]) 12:27, 28 April 2018 (UTC) in 1965 in Denmark under the London Records label.

== Credit for the double bass riff ==

Hazlewood seems to deserve at least some credit for the double bass riff, according to [https://www.facebook.com/151694561582626/posts/december-1965-55-years-agonancy-sinatra-these-boots-are-made-for-walkin-bw-the-c/3518231554928893/ this] Facebook post, but I can't find a more reliable source for the relevant quote. Relying on FB post seems too slim. [[User:Batternut|Batternut]] ([[User talk:Batternut|talk]]) 11:40, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

== Categories ==

[[:Category:Songs about footwear]]?? In this article, honey? [[In These Shoes?|I don't think so!]] (and even [[:Category:Songs about clothing and fashion|that one]] is a bit debatable). And [[:Category:Songs about parting]]? Well, kinda. But we probably need [[:Category:Songs about revenge]] or even [[:Category:Songs about domination]]? [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 13:31, 21 January 2022 (UTC)