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== Great work! ==
Fanstastic work on this collaboration. You guys have done well: I'm impressed! - [[User:Ta bu shi da yu|Ta bu shi da yu]] 13:18, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== "Super Mario 64x4" ==
Considering that at the time of it's display at E3, it had not been released, Nintendo referring to it as "Super Mario 64x4" is the definition of a working title. Had it been released under one name, then they changed the name on later copies, that would be "formerly known as", but that is not the case here. I would strongly suggest changing it back to "working title". --[[User:Tubedogg|Tubedogg]] 05:24, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

It doesn't really make much of a difference whether it's listed as "formerly known as" or "working title". As long as it's there, they both mean the same thing. "working title" is probably more correct, but either should be fine. It was called Super Mario 64x4 for a long time, and if I remember right, wasn't always destined to be a full remake, so I don't know. I'm glad I'm so helpful. :) [[User:Cookiecaper|Cookiecaper]] 05:32, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The switch from 64x4 to 64 DS happened at the same time as the enhanced single-player mode and touch-screen minigames were announced. This makes me think that the name change was because of these additions, making "working title" more suitable. -- [[User:Oogischloink|Oogischloink]] 05:58, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== Ratings ==
I added the Australia release date, and the ratings for all the releases [http://www.mobygames.com/game/super-mario-64/rating-systems Source]. --[[User:ThrashedParanoid|ThrashedParanoid]] 00:09, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

==Vandalism==
Apparently, a user named [[User talk:Vrray9000@yahoo|Vrray9000@yahoo]] has vandalized the box art image. It has the "F word" and the letters "X and P" as well as some scribbles painted on it with a paint application, and the ESRB rating icon has been edited to show an "M" rating instead of an "E" rating, the game's actual rating. The image should be reverted to its previous form. 

I'm sorry for forgetting to leave a date. I uploaded the previous version of the box art about thirty minutes ago. - 05:37, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Did someone lock it or something? ([[User:Plainnym|Plainnym]] 02:07, 21 May 2006 (UTC))

It is 6:59 January 16. I found someone who wrote a section for characters that says "YOU SUCK I HATE YOU".
It was vandalized twice. I think this page should be protected.
I think it should be protected, to.[[User:Isyou|Isyou]] 03:05, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

== Star restrictions ==
I deleted this sentence:

:Two stars are restricted to Yoshi, eighteen stars are restricted to Mario, fifteen stars are restricted to Luigi, and thirteen stars are restricted to Wario.

because it literally ''can't'' be correct. A star being restricted to a character means only that character can get it, so the total stars restricted to individual characters can't exceed 30.  Only the number for Yoshi is realistic; for the others it sounds like they meant "Mario can acquire 18 of the stars, Luigi can acquire 15, and Wario can acquire 13."

It would take someone with the game to correct this -- either by changing Yoshi's number and the text, or by changing the other three's numbers -- so I've moved it here. [[User:75th Trombone|SFT]] | [[User Talk:75th Trombone|Talk]] 12:13, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

:Why can the number of exclusive stars not exeed thirty? As far as I can tell, it IS correct, there are 2 stars which only Yoshi can get, 18 stars which only Mario can get, 15 stars which only Luigi can get and 13 stars which only Wario can get. The remaining 102 can be obtained with more than one character. [[User:The-|The-]] 21:29, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

:: I see now that I was assuming too much.  I was assuming that in Mario 64 DS, the original 120 stars are in the same places, and that Mario can collect all of them (as he can in Mario 64).  But even then, yes, these numbers are possible.  If they're correct, and if my assumptions were correct, then it means that Mario is unable to collect ''any'' of the 30 new stars.  Is that correct? [[User:75th Trombone|SFT]] | [[User Talk:75th Trombone|Talk]] 07:14, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

::: nope.some of the stars have benn renamed, some have been deleted.

:::: This is going around in circles. Let's just say that the powers Mario utilized in the original are divided among the new ones. Mario needs, for example, Luigi to do something he could've done himself in the original.[[User:Killbrain1|Killbrain1]] 13:09, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I am now working on exactly how many stars can be acquired with only Mario and Yoshi available. Stars so far: 125. However, with a walk underwater glitch in dire dire docks, I believe an additional power star can be attained. (using caps of another character counts, as long as they're not unlocked, right?) [[User:Xparasite9|Xparasite9]] 00:17, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

:Anybody ever heard the story about original research and Wikipedia? They don't go. This is OR because nothing has ever been confirmed as fact by any of the related companies. In other words, Nintendo. '''[[User:Cipher2006|Cipher]]''' <sup>(''[[User talk:Cipher2006|Yell]]'')</sup> 20:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

i belive in the star thing, but i collected 149 stars...
there was one star i could not get, and i never heard of a bowser's secret slide, but what about the canon outide the castle near that pond, and what about that opening in the castle wall seen on the select scrren for adventure mode...
can that be used to obtain a secret star?

[[User:Sir aaron sama girl|Sir aaron sama girl]] 20:58, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

see this page for super mario 64 DS cheats:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/920758/34153

[[User:Sir aaron sama girl|Sir aaron sama girl]] 16:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, you are all wrong. You forgot about the hats that characters can get in order to turn into a different characters!
[[Special:Contributions/81.129.230.7|81.129.230.7]] ([[User talk:81.129.230.7|talk]]) 19:18, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

== Sorry About the Multiple Edits ==

Sorry about the multiple edits in a row that I made. I'm new to Wikipedia editing and I am learning the Wikipedia markup as I edit.

You don't have to apologize, as long as you don't pointlessly flood the article's history. Also, use four tidles or we don't know who you are.[[User:Killbrain1|Killbrain1]] 12:10, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

== Development ==

What's up with the first paragraph of the development section? The talk of it being bundled with the DS doesn't seem fitting to the topic (a Release section, maybe?), and the completely random second and third sentences confuse me with the sudden change of topic.

Also, was it ever explained why the [http://tenchionline.com/ragey/OtherGames/OtherGames-sm64ds.htm co-operative multi-player] in the main game was removed and replaced with that star collecting game? I'd be interested to know.
--[[User:Ragey|Ragey]] 23:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

==Jen Taylor voicing toad???==
There is no toad in the game that has a real voice. Unless it's only the one squeak you hear in the minigame Bob-omb Squad when bob-ombs hit a flower. [[User:Frankyboy5|Frankyboy5]] 05:37, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
who is the rabbit king

== Glitches ==

Hey,you might wanna include the glitches of it.I know a few to include in the article,if you wanna know...If it's a Game Article,then you might wanna include glitches.[[User:Conker The Squirrel|Conker The Squirrel]] 13:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== Article Cleanup ==

I've just cleaned up the entire article because, frankly, it was awful. This talk page isn't much better, it's being used like a forum by some people. ''It's not supposed to be, it's against the point of Wikipedia.'' If anybody else can make some serious changes to this article, please do, because at the moment it really is an embarrassment. '''[[User:Cipher2006|Cipher]]''' <sup>(''[[User talk:Cipher2006|Yell]]'')</sup> 20:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

==Merge==

This needs to be merged with Super Mario 64 because that's pretty much all it is. [[User:24.4.131.142|24.4.131.142]] 05:41, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

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[[User:BetacommandBot|BetacommandBot]] ([[User talk:BetacommandBot|talk]]) 14:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

== Merge ==

I propose merging this article with [[Super Mario 64]]. While it has a number of changes, the most important ones can easily be summed up in a section on it. However, this article will have to be completely overhauled and fixed if it hopes to not damage the article. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] [[User talk:A Link to the Past|(talk)]] 00:48, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

== Partial assessment as of [[2009-01-06]] ==

Regarding the importance, I'm a little torn. It is indeed a launch title for the system, and that leads a ton of importance for it in terms of the Nintendo DS as a system. However on the other hand, it is also a remake with the inclusion of 4 new characters. That leans me significantly towards rating it being Low. So as it stands, I have to assess it as being low-importance.--[[User:Kung Fu Man|Kung Fu Man]] ([[User talk:Kung Fu Man|talk]]) 01:32, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

== Enhanced remake or enhanced port? ==

Hello, everybody. The intro states the game is an enhanced remake, but isn't it actually an enhanced port? A remake typically has completely overhauled and updated graphics, music, etc., but SM64DS has approximately the same graphical quality as the N64 original, and the music tracks are the ''exact'' same versions from SM64. Any input? [[User:Sesu Prime|Sesu Prime]] ([[User talk:Sesu Prime|talk]]) 00:04, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:Actually, the [[:File:Super Mario 64 DS-Graphics comparison.jpg|graphics and textures]] have been updated. The gameplay has been tweaked with the four different characters, new abilities, and extra stars. Plus, most of the gaming press called it a remake. ([[User:Guyinblack25|Guyinblack25]] <sup>[[User talk:Guyinblack25|talk]]</sup> 00:15, 1 March 2009 (UTC))

== Release Dates ==

For the release dates, are those the same dates as the original Nintendo 64 Release? I would think they should be for the days of the DS Remake, since this is about SM64 DS, and not SM64's release. Get rid of this section if I'm wrong, but I just wanted to point that out. :)
[[User:G14xT|G14xT]] ([[User talk:G14xT|talk]]) 18:29, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

== Orphaned references in [[:Super Mario 64 DS]] ==

I check pages listed in [[:Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting]] to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for [[User:AnomieBOT/docs/OrphanReferenceFixer|orphaned references]] in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of [[:Super Mario 64 DS]]'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for ''this'' article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

<b>Reference named "NP88":</b><ul>
<li>From [[Super Mario 64]]: {{Cite journal| date= September 1996| title= Full Coverage&nbsp;— Super Mario 64| journal= [[Nintendo Power]]| publisher= [[Nintendo]]| issue= 88| pages= 14–23}}</li>
<li>From [[Mario (series)]]: {{Cite journal| month= September | year= 1996| title= Full Coverage&nbsp;— Super Mario 64| journal= [[Nintendo Power]]| publisher= [[Nintendo]]| issue= 88| pages= 14–23}}</li>
</ul>

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. [[User:AnomieBOT|AnomieBOT]][[User talk:AnomieBOT|<span style="color:#888800;">⚡</span>]] 08:05, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
:The orphaned tag has been fixed. [[User:Mario777Zelda|Mario777Zelda]] ([[User talk:Mario777Zelda|talk]]) 19:02, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

== Not the first game to let you control Yoshi without Mario ==

About the disputed line in the introduction: If you only consider platformers and ignore alternate genre games like Mario Kart or Mario Golf, the first game to let you control Yoshi without Mario riding his back was [[Yoshi's Story]] unless there is one even earlier I'm forgetting. At the very least it was not this game, so I'm deleting the sentence. --[[User:Hakanai|Hakanai]] ([[User talk:Hakanai|talk]]) 07:03, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
:Sounds reasonable. That part was added in as an interesting bit from one of the sources. But given the inaccuracy, I see no problem removing it. Thanks. ([[User:Guyinblack25|Guyinblack25]] <sup>[[User talk:Guyinblack25|talk]]</sup> 14:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC))

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== Mario Flying ==

Flying Mario and Flying Luigi are forms taken by Mario and Luigi in Super Mario Galaxy. It is first used when Mario returns to the Gateway Galaxy to collect 100 Purple Coins. ... While in this form, spinning while jumping allows Mario to fly.
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