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== NPOV? ==

This article seems highly unbalanced, as it fails to address the issue of "forced" bandwidth usage.  As the Skype service works hard to actively subvert traditional firewall policies, many system administrators have found it near impossible to "block skype" (try doing a web search to verify this is a wide spread issue).  And to all the "editors" who work for Skype (or are die hard fans), stop reverting edits that show the negative aspects of Skype.

Quoting "a Skpye spokesperson" on [http://www.futuregov.asia/articles/2010/dec/09/low-bandwidth-skype-launches-remote-areas/ Low bandwidth version of Skype launched]:
:“This version has been designed to allow UNHCR staff to control Skype activity by allocating restricted bandwidth or enabling and disabling Skype on demand,” a Skype spokesperson told FutureGov Asia Pacific.
:“This is particularly an issue for UNHCR’s most remote installations where there is a risk of bandwidth saturation by multiple Skype users which could compromise operational needs.”

Nice bit of spin there - the "risk of bandwidth saturation by multiple Skype users" is a big problem for everyone, not just for remote installations.

I'm sure this isn't the only issue that people have against Skype, but it's likely the primary reason that many people don't like Skype.

I'm putting in my 2c in the lead.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/203.217.89.164|203.217.89.164]] ([[User talk:203.217.89.164|talk]]) 12:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

It strikes me very peculiar that there is no mention of [[eBay]]'s period of ownership in the main text of this article. From the page on eBay:
''eBay Inc. acquired Skype in 2005 and significantly expanded its customer base to more than 480 million registered users worldwide. To focus on its core e-commerce and payments businesses, eBay Inc. sold a majority stake in Skype in November 2009, retaining a minority investment in the company...''
Surely some of this information has a place on this page?  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Paul45|Paul45]] ([[User talk:Paul45|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paul45|contribs]]) 23:06, 19 July 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Pictures again ==
So it's great that all of the ports have their own picture now, but there should be a prominently displayed picture of the standard program in action, such as the one on the Windows Live Messenger page. Such a picture is extremely helpful in conveying what Skype is like. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:24.4.200.52|24.4.200.52]] ([[User talk:24.4.200.52|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.4.200.52|contribs]]) 06:55, 4 December 2008</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

== Service or software ==
The first sentence says skype is a software, the second sentence refers to it as being a service. Presumably it's both. This should be made clear. For example, can one use skype's service through other software? (like how one can use the msn messenger service without using the software called "MSN messenger") And can one use the skype software with another provider? [[User:RobHar|RobHar]] ([[User talk:RobHar|talk]]) 19:24, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

: Skype's service can only be used through the Skype software - similarly, the Skype software only works with the Skype service. So I guess it is both software and a service, although you can't really have one without the other. ~~ [[User:JGXenite|<span style="color: #AB0F31">[Jam]</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:JGXenite|<span style="color: #000000;">[talk]</span>]]</sup> 19:25, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


Actually the service can be used by other software other than skype software. For instance, mobile users can use Skype services through the nimbuzz software. Or go to http://imo.im

== Pictures ==
I don't think it's fair that there are two pictures of Windows, XP & Vista, and no picture of Skype on Apple's OS X.  I think the order of the images needs to be reconsidered and the XP image needs to be removed.  Also is the picture of Windows Mobile necessary?    This page can get out of hand with the number of platforms that Skype runs on.  I think one pic per platform should be sufficient.  --[[User:Kibbled bits|Kibbled bits]] ([[User talk:Kibbled bits|talk]]) 18:16, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
:I added a Mac OS X image. Also, I think that the images would look more organized if they were inside a gallery. --[[User:CFeyecare|<font face="Kristen ITC" size="3.5" color="crimson">''''' CFeyecare '''''</font>]]<font color = "black"><sup>'''''[[User talk:CFeyecare |  Talk!]]'''''</sup></font>[[User:CFeyecare/templates/signature-tracker| ]] 23:05, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::I created a gallery in my sandbox. (see: [[User:CFeyecare/sandbox]])--[[User:CFeyecare|<font face="Kristen ITC" size="3.5" color="crimson">''''' CFeyecare '''''</font>]]<font color = "black"><sup>'''''[[User talk:CFeyecare |  Talk!]]'''''</sup></font>[[User:CFeyecare/templates/signature-tracker| ]] 03:15, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Good job, it looks better now.  --[[User:Kibbled bits|Kibbled bits]] ([[User talk:Kibbled bits|talk]]) 15:17, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Please, consider adding this screenshot instead of the utterly obsolete Skype 1.4 for Linux: http://pic.madfire.net/s/Skype_2.1.0.47_beta_for_Linux.png [[User:Berkus|Berkus]] ([[User talk:Berkus|talk]]) 17:29, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
:The OS does not matter here.[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] ([[User talk:Jasper Deng|talk]]) 05:23, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Security features ==
I feel that the security features heading on the skype page is somewhat biased or at least swayed towards the idea of open source. The section quotes a cryptographer on how open source development is important to security, but provides minimal discourse related specifically to skype. If there are legitimate concerns, for example the testimony of someone on how skype should be open source, I think that would apply more. For now however, I think it really gives off the message of being very one-sided and too much of a "plug" for open source software. --[[User:Spfmalloy|Spfmalloy]] ([[User talk:Spfmalloy|talk]]) 16:50, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

:Openly peer reviewed is and always has been an important characteristic for security.  This is a consistent position of experts in this field, the cited one, being simply an example.  The article just points out that skype has this acknowledged security weakness.  [[User:Rearden9|Rearden9]] ([[User talk:Rearden9|talk]]) 19:04, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

::I'm not arguing against the idea of open source security, what I'm pointing out is that the quote and the general feel of the writing is very negative. The point made by the quoted may be true but is not specifically relevant to skype, and would fit much more in an article on open source crytography, not in the security section of the skype page. As an example...
::'''...and therefore cannot be inspected by the general public - including many security specialists - for back doors that can be exploited by hackers or government agents...'''
::This section gives the attitude of arguing for the release of the of the code, as it attempts to re-explain to readers that the general public includes "security specialists." There is more space dedicated to this explanation to the idea of open source security on the skype page than there is on the linked skype security page. --[[User:Spfmalloy|Spfmalloy]] ([[User talk:Spfmalloy|talk]]) 16:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

:::The summary is negative because the opinions of security professionals on Skype's security are generally negative. Therefore, it accurately reflects the position of experts and should not be changed, surely? Indeed, since it has since been revealed that Skype admits to having a backdoor in its encryption framework - intended for law enforcement agencies - it is clear that the concerns are justified. [[Special:Contributions/129.215.31.225|129.215.31.225]] ([[User talk:129.215.31.225|talk]]) 14:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

== Service issues ==
Under the heading Skype Service Issues: "While available for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux (i386 platform) operating systems, there is no Skype version for the Palm OS, used in mobile devices like the Treo 700p smartphone." Is this really a service issue? Should Skype have to support Palm OS? Why not mention all the other operating systems it doesnt provide version for? [[User:Aawood|Aawood]] ([[User talk:Aawood|talk]]) 06:54, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

:Fail to provide customer support; fail to provide services for paid customers; fail to refund incorrect charges; also blocking paid customers without refunding or explanation. Many cases can be found in refs given in this section. The text covers a very concise description of issues. It's fair to mention the issues in this way, until we have more publicized cases up.
I agree that lacking of client software features should be in other sections.--[[User:Natasha2006|Natasha2006]] ([[User talk:Natasha2006|talk]]) 22:31, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

== German wiretapping via trojan horses ==
I just added this to the article:
: <nowiki>It has been reported that German authorities have been wiretapping Skype conversations using a trojan horse.<ref>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080918/0208152302.shtml</ref>  A number of individuals involved in publicly disclosing this information have been placed under investigation.<ref>[http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080918/0208152302.shtml]<ref></nowiki>
It is based on this link here:
:http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080918/0208152302.shtml
More information here including details and costs of the wiretapping software used:
:http://www.itexaminer.com/german-pirate-party-raided.aspx
::Digitask charges €3,500 a month for running its Skype capture software, and an additional €2,500 for SSL-decoding services. The installation fee is a further €2500.
--[[User:John Bahrain|John Bahrain]] ([[User talk:John Bahrain|talk]]) 13:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

::: Please add http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/images/5/54/Bayern-skype-tkue.pdf as a source! It is the document in question. Somehow I do not find out, how to create the quotation link myself.... Regarding the content of this document: there is no sign whatsoever that Skype carries any responsibility for this wiretapping incident. Rather a 3rd-party was ordered to deliver a software which can capture the live voice stream before skype can get hold of it and encrypt it, because the skype-encryption is quite good. (too good writes the coder of the trojan) In this document the company that coded the software, to chatch the streams unencrypted on the PC of the tapped person, is makeing the priced offer. the first part of the document is discussing internally how to distribute the costs of this trojan amongst police and district attorney's office. This case is IMHO not a security issue concerning Skype. It could concern just about any software that encrypts user data for transmission over internet. The company is making the offer to decrypt any firefox and internet explorer transmissions (SSL) as well in the last part of this document. It is rather a legal/political problem of Bavarian police, Germany. Looks like these practices have become legal in Bavaria in 2008 but are still under discussion --[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:45, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

::: Reading http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/02/eu-group-aims-to-eavesdrop-on-skype-calls.ars it looks like the bavarian guys made some kind of a trojan virus that eavesdropped due to it being installed on the client computer, so, not because Skype is so easy to "crack"...

And reading http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/12/nsa_offers_billions_for_skype_pwnage/ it looks like the NSA would cough up billions for a backdoor into Skype that would help them eavesdrop.

Please add this into the article someone, I don't have time to edit.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/79.119.222.186|79.119.222.186]] ([[User talk:79.119.222.186|talk]]) 13:23, 5 November 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== New system requirements for Macs include a G4 processor ==
The new video Skype, at least 2.7, to my surprise, states (in tiny print) that your Mac requires a G4 processor. Overlooking this can leave one with no Skype service at all, for Skype does not provide earlier versions. This is important to know, because a G3 processor has always been adequate for audio calls (and, in my opinion, for nice full-screen video as well.) Hence, it was unexpected. This new requirement will seriously catch off guard those who do not backup applications or downloaded disk images, those who erase (immediately) with icons, and those who read as poorly as i. It should probably be mentioned. [[User:Bruce Bathurst|Geologist]] ([[User talk:Bruce Bathurst|talk]]) 04:51, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

: Doesn't the Skype program check the system requirements before it installs/upgrades the existing version? ~~ [[User:JGXenite|<span style="color: #AB0F31">[ジャム]</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:JGXenite|<span style="color: #000000;">[talk]</span>]]</sup> 07:23, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

::No. Ironically, if G3 users move to Skype's download section, or even click 'Manual 'Update' on a previously working version, a web page opens with a big green 'Download' button. The only warning at all appears at the bottom of this initial web page, after scrolling to the bottom; and it appears not as a caution, but hidden in small, light-grey, system requirements. (I actually read them and didn't see the 'G4' rather than 'G3'.

::However, the 'Automatic Update' appears to not install v. 2.7; and, of course, I expected to read the installation instructions after downloading the disc image. The instructions are only on a web page that appears during the download: there is no README, change log, or any indication all is not fine during the install. Only when it failed to start, did I check my console messages and discover the truth.

::This is not a problem with me, for I have a backup of the older disc image. The new extreme encryption of video may require a vector processor. However, my wife would never let me use video from such an untidy study. Videophones failed years ago in the U.S. for this reason. [[User:Bruce Bathurst|Geologist]] ([[User talk:Bruce Bathurst|talk]]) 22:34, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

A moment ago I took a look at some discussion sites and concluded the above problem has been around for some time and isn't going away. Consequently, someone who writes well may wish to added the G3 problem to the article and reference the following website, which has archived seemingly all the previous Skype versions:

:http://mac.oldapps.com/skype.php

[[User:Bruce Bathurst|Geologist]] ([[User talk:Bruce Bathurst|talk]]) 23:52, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== Article seems unbalanced ==
Why is a single paper given a massive section? --[[User:Cameron Scott|Cameron Scott]] ([[User talk:Cameron Scott|talk]]) 13:18, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Huh?  What are you referring to?  and/or  What do you mean?</br>
[[User:LP-mn|LP-mn]] ([[User talk:LP-mn|talk]]) 20:26, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

== Mention of new term? ==
Should a mention be made of the now-used term "Skypersation"? It seems to be used a good bit to denote conversations or video conferences in Skype.

:: Sounds like a [[neologism]] - has it been mention in multiple reliable sources? --[[User:Cameron Scott|Cameron Scott]] ([[User talk:Cameron Scott|talk]]) 13:35, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

:::Looking over the definition you linked to, I have to admit that you are correct. It hasn't been mentioned in reliable sources as of yet, just in colloquial speech. At least, as far as I'm aware. [[User:Kumorifox|Kumorifox]] ([[User talk:Kumorifox|talk]]) 14:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

:::: no problem - keep an eye on it - once it gets a few mentions, slot it in :-) --[[User:Cameron Scott|Cameron Scott]] ([[User talk:Cameron Scott|talk]]) 15:16, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== Skype Pro ==
Why is there no mention of the "flagship" "Skype Pro" "subscription"?  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.190.56.24|67.190.56.24]] ([[User talk:67.190.56.24|talk]]) 08:31, 20 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Infobox ==
Program versions in the article's infobox are screwed up. Someone should look into it. I have no experience with them whatsoever so chose not to try tinker with it myself.  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Taalen|Taalen]] ([[User talk:Taalen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taalen|contribs]]) 10:38, 20 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Skype software issues ==
I would like to add to the article some important issues with current Skype software that I don't see mentioned, but have relevant citations for:

* the Firefox/Internet Explorer plug-ins that are installed by default, and disfigure the user's web-pages by converting all phone numbers on the page to Skype buttons

* the current forced upgrade system - when a new stable Skype version is released, V3+ Skype ceases to function

* most commented on - Skype V3+ software continunally rechecks the check-boxes for 'Start Skype when Windows starts' and 'Sign me in when Skype starts', necessitating the user to uncheck these boxes each time they use the software, if they do not want to use these options

* the Skype protocol includes a form of peer-to-peer functionality that means that any user can find themselves being used as a supernode, with serious bandwidth implications for their network

* Skype bypasses firewalls and NAT systems, a cause for security concerns

Does anyone have any views on these?
[[User:Centrepull|Centrepull]] ([[User talk:Centrepull|talk]]) 21:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

: The forced upgrade system is unfortunate.  I can no longer use Skype, as the April 2010 forced update makes bad assumptions, causing my computer to be unusable when a conference is active (as listener or host.)  While I'm sure such a poor business decision will haunt them, I don't see how that is relevant to an encyclopedia article.  --[[User:Connel MacKenzie|Connel MacKenzie]] -  [[wikt:User talk:Connel MacKenzie|wikt]] 23:50, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Totally agree, I have a lot of problems with skype lately. The old versions, I get a camera signal in, on and off, blinking all the time, and in the new newest, the voice communication does not work both ways. It seems strange, I checked everything. Also, the interface of the new version, all the icons and symbols are tiny, and it losts its original solid appearance. The newest version is crap. I used to have no problems with skype now I tend to think, I need to use my regular phone more again. Isn't there another type of software on the market I could use on my MacBook pro running leopard? Skype isn't getting any better.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/85.1.202.194|85.1.202.194]] ([[User talk:85.1.202.194|talk]]) 10:55, 6 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Austrian interception of Skype ==
Since there appears to be some disagreement over my changes regarding austrian officials stating that they can easily listen to skype communication, I think we should discuss the issue here before making anymore edits. My case is this

1. the ohm online source (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/25/skype_backdoor_rumours) while using information from the heise-online source (http://www.heise-online.co.uk/news/Speculation-over-back-door-in-Skype--/111170) adds additional analysis, commentary and quotes not contained in the heise-online source. They should both be included.

2. Yes they have the word rumor and speculation in the url but the story itself doesn't not claim these are just rumors and speculations, for instance:

"This has been confirmed to heise online by a number of the parties present at the meeting. "

"Last week, Austrian broadcaster ORF, citing minutes from the meeting, reported that the Austrian police are able to listen in on Skype connections."

Citing minutes and multiple sources is not rumor or speculation.

3. The way the article is currently worded "Several media sources have reported rumours that at a meeting about the interception of IP based services held on 25th June 2008," it sounds as though the meeting is rumored. The meeting has be confirmed by Interior ministry spokesman Rudolf Gollia, and european media.

I would prefer "Several media sources have reported that at a meeting on the Lawful interception of IP based services held on 25th June 2008, in which it is rumored that .."

"Interior ministry spokesman Rudolf Gollia declined to provide heise online with a comment on the matter. He did, however, offer general comments on the meeting, which were, however, contradicted by other attendees."

4. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/25/skype_backdoor_rumours/ the register makes reference to a wikileaks document showing the German government purchasing equipment to intercept Skype conversations. The register source should be included because it includes this additional information and analysis.

5. I agree with the removal of the skype privacy agreement sentience I added, since I was doing original research and citing a primary source. Someone should find a better analysis for this, since it is extremely important to the article to explain that Skype claims the legal power to spy(I need a more NPOV word for this) on it's customers if asked to by the government, for marketing reasons, or to protect their interests. Businesses should be aware that Skype reserves the right to listen to their Skype communications to protect Skypes/eBay's interests (seems very conflict of interest and very important to someone who is making the business decision to use Skype) and this extremely relevant to the question of weither Skype spies on it's customers.
http://www.skype.com/legal/privacy/general/#4

[[User:Ethyr|Ethyr]] ([[User talk:Ethyr|talk]]) 16:11, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

If no one is willing to defend the edits they made to remove my edits, I will restore them in two days.
[[User:Ethyr|Ethyr]] ([[User talk:Ethyr|talk]]) 15:29, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

:: It's all  speculation - you have a single source and then bits and bobs built upon that in other sources. Commentary isn't fact. We've mentioned the speculation in the article - anything else would be WP:UNDUE - unless you can provide better more specific sources. --[[User:Cameron Scott|Cameron Scott]] ([[User talk:Cameron Scott|talk]]) 16:27, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

::: "Last week, Austrian broadcaster ORF, citing minutes from the meeting, reported that the Austrian police are able to listen in on Skype connections."
:::Heise online is a well respected news source that is reporting on reputable foreign language news sources, one of which has ironclad evidence. Tt should carry weight. ORF is not some crackpot blog, it is "the dominant player in the Austrian broadcast media" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORF . ORF is citing minutes from the meeting. It's not hearsay, it's written minutes of the meeting. This is not a rumour, this is not speculation. "Meeting minutes have been accorded significant evidentiary weight by many courts and government agencies. " -http://www.aaronline.com/documents/LegReqMtngMin.aspx . Justify your claim that this is "a rumor" or does not have the proper weight?

:::"Neutrality requires that the article should fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by a reliable source, and should do so in proportion to the prominence of each." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:UNDUE#Undue_weight . If you wish to add viewpoints that disagreed with what took place at the meeting that sounds reasonable but that doesn't seem to justify the deletion of this viewpoint.

:::The other sources have additional information, analysis, and quotes. This falls under "When to cite sources". "To help users find additional information on the topic."-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_needed#When_to_cite_sources

:::The use of the word Rumor is pejorative and POV. In fact it is not even being used accurately within the scope of it's definition. A rumor is defined as "an unverified account or explanation of events circulating from person to person and pertaining to an object, event, or issue in public concern" -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumor This is verified by ORF citing the minutes and heise-online multiple sources within the meeting.[[User:Ethyr|Ethyr]] ([[User talk:Ethyr|talk]]) 21:17, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

::::I'm restoring my changes with regards to the Austria affair, including the multiple references. I don't want to start an edit war so I waited seven days before restoring the content to allow interested parties to comment. I politely request that if someone wants to revert these changes they provide a thorough justification as I currently don't see the most of a case for calling the removed analysis and sources rumor. [[User:Ethyr|Ethyr]] ([[User talk:Ethyr|talk]]) 00:43, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

::::: on Saturday they will have my full attention... --[[User:Cameron Scott|Cameron Scott]] ([[User talk:Cameron Scott|talk]]) 00:55, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

:::::: [confused] - didn't you already do this ''Several media sources have reported rumours that at a meeting about the interception of IP based services held on 25th June 2008, officials at the Austrian interior ministry said they could listen into conversation with no difficulty.'' I have no problem with that prose as it's not WP:UNDUE. --[[User:Cameron Scott|Cameron Scott]] ([[User talk:Cameron Scott|talk]]) 00:58, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

::::::: My apologizes for any confusion. I had edited the discussion page before making the changes to the article to make my intentions clear. In regards to your 'who' comment. The article unfortunately does not list the name of the speaker. Do you have any suggestions on how I could reword that sentience such that it wouldn't be considered weasel wordish.How would you feel if I rewrote the paragraph in question to say something like "Austrian broadcaster ORF citing minutes blah blah blah, This was also confirmed to heise-online using several unnamed source present at the meeting..." rather than use the "Several media sources ..." opening? Thanks for your help so far with this.[[Special:Contributions/98.216.51.77|98.216.51.77]] ([[User talk:98.216.51.77|talk]]) 05:09, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

== SkypeOut? ==
There are 4 instances of the term 'SkypeOut' in the article, but no definition of the term.

-BCreegan  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:BCreegan|BCreegan]] ([[User talk:BCreegan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BCreegan|contribs]]) 17:00, 7 February 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:::: SkypeOut is the functionality of the Skype software to make a VOIP call to a real phone.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.190.9.254|66.190.9.254]] ([[User talk:66.190.9.254|talk]]) 13:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== I think free software should be allowed in links for Skype ==
Free sofware helps the Skype community, I fail to see the difference of the Skypejournal, being able to have a link, yet these are not acceptable:

{{collapse top}}
* [http://saveontelephoneservices.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=13 Free real-time Skype chat language translator - 43 different languages - Speaks 10 of them]
* [http://saveontelephoneservices.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=11 Free call transfer program for Skype works with all Windows versions including 4.x]
* [http://saveonphoneservices.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=8 Free real-time subscription usage monitor for Skype for Windows]
* [http://virtualtelephoneservices.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=8 Free wireless monitor to determine if other networks are impacting your Skype experience]

In three of these cases, they are even listed on the Skype web site:

* [http://share.skype.com/sites/devzone/2009/05/ctss_chat_translator_and_speak_1.html Chat Translator ON Skype web page]
* [http://share.skype.com/sites/devzone/2009/03/now_you_can_monitor_you_skype.html Subscription Monitor ON Skype web page]
* [http://share.skype.com/sites/devzone/2007/06/skype_pro_does_call_transfer.html Call Transfer ON Skype web page]

So, if the above links are good enough to be posted on Skype web pages, why not here, these are free programs for Skype, that Skype approves of, and posts on their web site.

The 4th link is for a tool so that Skype users, can see, when they complain about audio/video problems on Skype, and they are using a wireless connection, that they can use, again, free software, to see if there are OTHER wireless networks that are in their area, that maybe on their same wireless channel or close to their wireless channel, and then they can change their wireless channel, to have a better Skype experience.

Yet somehow these links are OK? Why?

* [http://www.skypejournal.com/ Skype Journal], independent coverage of Skype since 2003
* [http://hacktolive.org/wiki/Portable_Applications_(Windows) Portable Skype for Windows]

I find this rather appalling. When the links I posted, minus 1, are approved and listed on the Skype web site, yet NOT good enough to be included with the links 2 above. Especially, when one of the links above is in FACT also linking to free software, that most of the list has NOTHING to do with Skype.

* [http://hacktolive.org/wiki/Portable_Applications_(Windows) Portable Skype for Windows]

The SkypeJournal is NOT affilated with Skype.

* [http://www.skypejournal.com/ Skype Journal], independent coverage of Skype since 2003

ALL of these free programs are affilated with Skype as approved FREE applications and listed on the Skype web pages. It took me thousands of man hours to create them, for the Skype community, and I charge nothing for them, and never have.

* [http://share.skype.com/sites/devzone/2009/05/ctss_chat_translator_and_speak_1.html Chat Translator ON Skype web page]
* [http://share.skype.com/sites/devzone/2009/03/now_you_can_monitor_you_skype.html Subscription Monitor ON Skype web page]
* [http://share.skype.com/sites/devzone/2007/06/skype_pro_does_call_transfer.html Call Transfer ON Skype web page]

[[User:ZOverLord|ZOverLord]] ([[User talk:ZOverLord|talk]]) 04:35, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

The 4 links you gave are clearly commercial.  Being free does not mean non-commercial.  Free software that spams the user with ads is very commercial.  Such links might be valid in an article about the very company or group offering said free software.  But it isn't "about Skype".  Skype is free to list any links they want on their own web site.  The article about Skype links to the primary Skype website and people can find anything they want about Skype there.

The journal link is just ancillary information and a sometimes source.  The Portable Skype link does not appear to be commercial.

Maybe a "List_of_Skype_Applications" article would be more appropriate (I don't know)?

[[User:PhilHoward|PhilHoward]] ([[User talk:PhilHoward|talk]]) 05:05, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

The 2 links I listed that are there now then are clearly commerical, "Get It" if they are not, PLEASE explain, HOW they are not.

* [http://www.skypejournal.com/ Skype Journal], independent coverage of Skype since 2003
* [http://hacktolive.org/wiki/Portable_Applications_(Windows) Portable Skype for Windows]

This link has 99 percent of links in it that have NOTHING to do with Skype, please re-review the links listed here. The list of links provided by the link below is for "Portable Applications (Windows)" I link in the entire list is for Skype, the 1 link, at the top:

* [http://hacktolive.org/wiki/Portable_Applications_(Windows) Portable Skype for Windows]

If I use these links instead, are they commercial? They link directly to the Skype web pages:

* [http://share.skype.com/sites/devzone/2009/05/ctss_chat_translator_and_speak_1.html Chat Translator listed on Skype web page]
* [http://share.skype.com/sites/devzone/2009/03/now_you_can_monitor_you_skype.html Subscription Monitor listed on Skype web page]
* [http://share.skype.com/sites/devzone/2007/06/skype_pro_does_call_transfer.html Call Transfer listed on Skype web page]

[[User:ZOverLord|ZOverLord]] ([[User talk:ZOverLord|talk]]) 05:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anything commercial in either the linked Skype Journal site or the Portable Applications site.  I'm not going to spend time trying to prove a negative.  If you see specific commercialism on those sites that you think is relevant, point specifically at it.

The saveontelephoneservices.com site is clearly commercial in nature, even blatantly so.  Look on the main page and see.  The specific links to particular pages even have lots of ads.  But whether a SITE is commercial is more than just specific links.

I am in no way someone that decides policy here.  I'm not a judge of this here.  You'll need to convince others I currently have not identified.  I'm only trying to explain it for your understanding.  And I don't carry on long conversations to do that.  If you can't figure out what Wikipedia considers acceptable or not by now, you'll have to find someone with more experience here, and more patience, to explain it.

[[User:PhilHoward|PhilHoward]] ([[User talk:PhilHoward|talk]]) 05:27, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Since This link links to free sofware, for Skype, only the first link on the entire page:

* [http://hacktolive.org/wiki/Portable_Applications_(Windows) Portable Skype for Windows]

Then, why can I not do the same?

Can I also use these links, to link to free software, that link directly to the Skype web site, if NOT, why NOT?

Get my point, you are saying it is "OK" for a link to exist, for free software, yet, my links for free software, that go directly to the Skype web pages, are "Somehow" NOT "OK".

I don't think you are reading what I am saying, I changed the links to point directly to the Skype web site, NOT saveontelephoneservices.com so, why should these links be "NOT" ok now, yet the other, link to free software is?

* [http://share.skype.com/sites/devzone/2009/05/ctss_chat_translator_and_speak_1.html Chat Translator listed on Skype web page]
* [http://share.skype.com/sites/devzone/2009/03/now_you_can_monitor_you_skype.html Subscription Monitor listed on Skype web page]
* [http://share.skype.com/sites/devzone/2007/06/skype_pro_does_call_transfer.html Call Transfer listed on Skype web page]

[[User:ZOverLord|ZOverLord]] ([[User talk:ZOverLord|talk]]) 05:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Set up a NON-COMMERCIAL web site for your free software.  If your free software is also non-commercial in nature (spamming users with ads makes it commercial), maybe it will be acceptable.  Otherwise the only place I can imagine it being listed would be "List_of_Skype_applications" or such, categorizing it for what it is (whatever it is ... I'm not inclined to put unknown software on my computer to find out).

[[User:PhilHoward|PhilHoward]] ([[User talk:PhilHoward|talk]]) 05:46, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Have you looked at the link that is there for free sofware now, again, 1 link of the entire list of links is for Skype and that link is not for "Approved" by Skype, so when you say:

"I'm not inclined to put unknown software on my computer to find out)."

* [http://hacktolive.org/wiki/Portable_Applications_(Windows) Portable Skype for Windows]

NOTE: The Link above is has One link in the list of links for Skype, it is for "Portable_Applications_(Windows) Portable Skype for Windows". Some of the links in the list above, go to "Commercial Sites".

You have/are implemeting a double standard, because the links below, which I would like to add, ARE approved by Skype, and the links go "Directly" to the Skype web page and is free, NOT my web pages.

* [http://share.skype.com/sites/devzone/2009/03/now_you_can_monitor_you_skype.html Subscription Monitor ON Skype web page]
* [http://share.skype.com/sites/devzone/2009/05/ctss_chat_translator_and_speak_1.html Chat Translator listed on Skype web page]
*[http://share.skype.com/sites/devzone/2007/06/skype_pro_does_call_transfer.html Call Transfer listed on Skype web page]

These links above, "Go Directly" to the Skype web pages, and is free, understand, NOT my web pages, the software in all three cases, HAS been approved by Skype, and is free, which is WHY, the 3 links above go directly to the Skype web pages, NOT my web pages?

So, since they "Go Directly" to the Skype web pages, may I use them, there is NOTHING to set up, they are on the Skype web pages.

Again, are you reading this, the 3 links above go directly to Skype web pages, not mine, the software has been approved by Skype and is free.

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[[User:ZOverLord|ZOverLord]] ([[User talk:ZOverLord|talk]]) 05:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

"Approved by Skype" is irrelevant to Wikipedia.  What's on Skype site is per Skype policy.  What's on Wikipedia site is per Wikipedia policy.  I do notice the one free software link is removed.  So maybe that isn't per Wikipedia policy to have it.  If that stands, that's how it is (and remember, I'm not a qualified judge of this ... just trying to explain it).  I'm still saying your arguments don't apply to Wikipedia.

Maybe there will soon be a "List_of_<whatever>" for a list of Skype software.  There is software listed in other lists for other stuff, so this seems plausible.  Maybe one of the Skype article watchers will start it.

[[User:PhilHoward|PhilHoward]] ([[User talk:PhilHoward|talk]]) 09:02, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

We aren't a product guide - external links should expand knowledge about the entity described in the subject, not expand knowledge on how to ''use it'' so a historical account of the formation of the company, a detailed account of how the underlying technology works - software links that expand the functionality of skype? not really suitable. --[[User:Cameron Scott|Cameron Scott]] ([[User talk:Cameron Scott|talk]]) 09:05, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I comprehend that, the issue was the "double-standard" of allowing 1 link, for free software to remain, but yet refusing mine.

Now that the "other" free software link has been removed, what you say makes sense, with it still there, as it was, it made no sense. Thanks.

[[User:ZOverLord|ZOverLord]] ([[User talk:ZOverLord|talk]]) 13:14, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

== Skype has people working here ==
Skype has people here working hard to make sure that nothing too nasty is said about them. They have begun altering their subscriptions services in everything but name (Unlimited World, for example) and selling them to unsuspecting customers. As most Skype users know, if you have a problem with Skype, you really have a problem, because they are very hard to get in touch with. I tried to put a paragraph up on the Skype entry about this, but it was taken off several times by a user, even when I linked directly to the Skype policy. Either someone has a very incongruent interest in Skype's image, or the user is working for Skype. We all know how the corporate state works... <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:125.224.42.138|125.224.42.138]] ([[User talk:125.224.42.138|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/125.224.42.138|contribs]]) 05:14, 12 June 2009</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

: [[WP:AGF]] --[[User:ZimZalaBim|<span style="color:black;">Zim</span><b style="color:darkgreen;">Zala</b><span style="color:black;">Bim</span>]] [[User talk:ZimZalaBim|<sup style="color:black;">talk</sup>]] 05:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

:: Some, if not most, of us are not Skype employees. You need to adhere to [[WP:NPOV]] when adding content, and you weren't doing that. That's why I reverted your edits, and you were warned. --('''[[User:GSK|GameShowKid]]''')--('''[[User_talk:GSK|talk]]''')--('''[[Special:Contributions/GSK|evidence]]''')--( 05:24, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

: One user's opinion of a company's service, no matter how truthful, is not appropriate content for an encyclopedia article.  A verified news story, however, may be a reasonable reference as "reported problems".  Do better web searching and find good documented resources about Skype.  If it is bad as you say, that should be easy to find.  News articles from reputable news sources are best.  I'm not a user of Skype so I do not have personal knowledge about the service one way or the other. [[User:PhilHoward|PhilHoward]] ([[User talk:PhilHoward|talk]]) 05:32, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

== GNU GPL ==
There should be info about their [http://www.h-online.com/news/GPL-violation-by-Skype-re-affirmed-by-court--/110703 documented GPL violations]. [[User:Superm401|Superm401]] - [[User_talk:Superm401|Talk]] 02:09, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== The new Skype service ==
will it be able to phone to landlines and cellphones and send sms's when will the software be available,do we need extra hardware for this benefit or subscription? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:41.208.50.176|41.208.50.176]] ([[User talk:41.208.50.176|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/41.208.50.176|contribs]]) 07:26, 17 June 2009</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

:It already can call land lines and cellphones, but Skype's SMS feature is broken, particularly with regard to setting up Caller ID.  Setting up Caller ID requires sending a text message with a verification code from Skype's server to an SMS-capable telephone, i.e., a cell phone, not a home or business phone.  Skype deducts the cost of the text message from the user's account, but fails to send the SMS message.  The user can still make calls to normal phones using Skype, but the called party won't see the Caller ID and may refuse to take the call.  This problem has existed from at least June 2008 to the present. See more at [[Features of Skype]]. &mdash;[[User:Hydrargyrum|Quicksilver]]<sup>[[User_talk:Hydrargyrum|T]] [[Special:Emailuser/Hydrargyrum|@]]</sup> 23:32, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

== Misuse of Skype ==
Would it be appropriate to mention the multitude of people who take advantage of Skype to "safely" make prank calls to people since the number that comes up on a caller ID is generally a default Skype number and thus untraceable (e.g. 202-580-8200)?<br>See [http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/2025808200 whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/2025808200 "Who calls me?"]. --[[User:KirkCliff2|KirkCliff2]] ([[User talk:KirkCliff2|talk]]) 17:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

:That's speculative; we don't know that it's a "multitude" of people.  The people who use Skype to make prank calls or crank calls may be less than 0.01% of all SkypeOut calls. Moreover, 202-580-8200 is only one of a multitude of caller ID numbers used by Skype:  An even more generic one in the U.S. is 000-012-3456. &mdash;[[User:Hydrargyrum|Quicksilver]]<sup>[[User_talk:Hydrargyrum|T]] [[Special:Emailuser/Hydrargyrum|@]]</sup> 01:37, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

==Morten Lund==
* [[Morten Lund]] wasn't he one of the founders?  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/95.91.182.44|95.91.182.44]] ([[User talk:95.91.182.44|talk]]) 22:07, 2 December 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Use the function to only receive calls from people that are in your contacts list, make sure you are not allowing just anyone to call you.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/92.234.156.113|92.234.156.113]] ([[User talk:92.234.156.113|talk]]) 14:34, 29 August 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Use the function to only receive calls from people that are in your contacts list, make sure you are not allowing just anyone to call you.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/92.234.156.113|92.234.156.113]] ([[User talk:92.234.156.113|talk]]) 14:36, 29 August 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Confused Intro==
The section detailing Skype's "commercial adventures" ("The company was acquired by eBay in September 2005" etc) seems out of place here. It doesn't really have anything to do with the basic explanation of what Skype is all about and just seems way off the point at the top of the article.[[Special:Contributions/120.16.10.92|120.16.10.92]] ([[User talk:120.16.10.92|talk]]) 11:07, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

== Sky Credit Class Action Suit ==

Seems some people files a suit against Skype, basically claiming that credit expiration is unlawful. Here's the website I got from my own notification e-mail: https://creditexpirationclassaction.com/ Is this applicable to this article? --[[User:CCFreak2K|CCFreak2K]] ([[User talk:CCFreak2K|talk]]) 06:50, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Not unless it is reported in reliable sources. --[[User:Cameron Scott|Cameron Scott]] ([[User talk:Cameron Scott|talk]]) 13:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

== Stable release ==

Why does it say in the infobox that 4.2 is the stable version? 4.2 is beta, 4.1 is the stable and current version. [[Special:Contributions/83.108.194.198|83.108.194.198]] ([[User talk:83.108.194.198|talk]]) 18:53, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

:Its incorrect, someone must have incorrectly changed it. The same with the linux version. --[[User:Simonarrow359|Simonarrow359]] ([[User talk:Simonarrow359|talk]]) 03:50, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


== Skype deep security issues ==

First of all sorry for my bad english.
As an advanced computer user I find it really funny that your skype ID (username) can be eventually found by bots even if it's something that can't be found in a dictionary or google and you don't reveal it to anybody and just use it to call somebody who has no virus in his computer and has not revealed your ID to anyone. I keep having random-generated bots accounts adding me, and some mothns ago there was a bug that override you the control so they were automatically added LOL, I algo got a hacker adding me (his profile had an ordinary name and he sent me a message in my native language, it was a really common phrase, but to a native speaker sounded out of place). How did that human got my ID? And the bots?
I think there's something very wrong and obscure about skype, maybe the p2p system this software is based on. Their forums are not very accesible from their official page and if you go to the security related one you will see thousands of messages without answers. People who like me are behind a router with NAT, changes his IP frecuently, has soft firewall and a good AV and they're definately not dumb users and they have their accounts hacked (or even registered accounts using their email adresses with no need to confirmation lol). One of them says something about the process, which was lucky to see. Of course official help is nowhere to be found.
What happens with Skype security?
Somebody who knows English better than me should really investigate about this and write down an entry so people can be warned about these matters. I think there's something terribly wrong when security actions are taken and still you see lots of people who get their accounts hacked nevertheless and trought manners that implies there's something bad in the program itself (or its implementation, method of connecting, validations p2p system etc) since you have a router, AV, keep your email and account pass safe etc...  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/193.153.253.193|193.153.253.193]] ([[User talk:193.153.253.193|talk]]) 01:12, 17 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== New stable release (Skype 4.2) ==

A couple days ago, version 4.2 was made the stable release client for Windows. Just thought I'd bring someone's attention to this.
<nowiki>*</nowiki>doesn't want to edit it himself* [[Special:Contributions/86.22.35.90|86.22.35.90]] ([[User talk:86.22.35.90|talk]]) 18:39, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== Cleanup and Conflict of Interest tags ==

I did some rearranging today, and the article seems to be in pretty good shape compared to March 2009 when it was tagged for cleanup.  The Conflict of Interest issues also seem to have shaken themselves out.  I'm removing both of these tags; if you have any reason to keep them, feel free to re-add and leave a note here on the talk page explaining the details so they can be addressed. -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] ([[User talk:Beland|talk]]) 19:29, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

After checking through, the article has a number of dead links in the references, i have started to change and replace some however there are several which i havent had time to do, these are the following - http://www.skype.com/allfeatures/skypename/ (Ref 9), http://glimfeather.com/borderless/OnlineNow.htm (Ref 71), http://www.skypejournal.com/blog/archives/2006/02/skype_for_symbian_coming.php (Ref 86), http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11338&Itemid=1 (Ref 68), http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/159279/skype_growing_by_380000_users_a_day.html/ (Ref 45), http://corporatetool.blogspot.com/2007/10/ebays-skype-writedown.html/ (Ref 33) -- [[User:Slipdisk101|Slipdisk101]] ([[User talk:Slipdisk101|talk]]) 17:35, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

== Skype tune? ==

Can someone start an article on the Skype tune similar to the [[Nokia tune]]? It's a pretty distinct and recognizable tone. --[[User:MMuzammils|'''I'''ncident'''F'''lux]] <sup>[ [[User_talk:MMuzammils|TalkBack ]]|[[Special:Contributions/MMuzammils| Contributions]] ]</sup> 14:15, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

== Abuse ==

I can't help but notice the article doesn't say anything about how the service is used to make basically untracable prank calls. If you do a google search on the skype numbers your going to come across hundreds if not thousands of people who have gotten prank calls, fake take-out orders, and other types of abuse.

If this doesn't belong in the article can we remove the part about them giving credit for an outage? What a company chooses to do when it fails to provide a service is surely something documented by them and doesn't need to be part of a PR piece on their wikipedia article.[[User:Woods01|Woods01]] ([[User talk:Woods01|talk]]) 01:50, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

::For the former bit, I'm not sure that it's notable...but regardless, you will need to find reliable, reputable sources that indicate that 1) it is happening and 2) it's to the extent that you are alleging it is. If you have sources that meet wiki's criteria, by all means Be Bold! As for the latter bit, if it's sourced, and the outage was notable, I don't see a need to remove it. I would, of course, not personally use a release from Skype as a source for that, but if it's sourced to second/third party sources, then I don't see a POV issue with it.[[Special:Contributions/204.65.34.246|204.65.34.246]] ([[User talk:204.65.34.246|talk]]) 13:52, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

== Reference To Joltid? ==

The "History" section makes reference to "Joltid" without any mention of who (or what) Joltid is:

"In August, Joltid filed a motion with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, seeking to terminate a licensing agreement with eBay which allows eBay (and therefore Skype) to use the peer-to-peer communications technology on which Skype is based."

Worth noting is that a later section ("System and software") references Joltid differently (and, incidentally, more formally):

"Skype uses a proprietary Internet telephony (VoIP) network, called the Skype protocol. The protocol has not been made publicly available by Skype and official applications using the protocol are closed-source. Part of the Skype technology relies on the Global Index P2P protocol, belonging to the Joltid Ltd. corporation."

Perhaps the improper reference is an editing artifact?  If so, how should the entity in question be addressed?  Worth noting is that Joltid only has a "placeholder page" on Wikipedia.

--[[User:Idfubar|idfubar]] ([[User talk:Idfubar|talk]]) 02:22, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

== Version History ==

I have often gone to Wikipedia in order to learn more about the version history of a product.  I am a bit surprised to find that there is no such section, or dedicated sub-page for [[Skype]].  I suggest someone more knowledgeable than I create such a section or sub page.</br>
Alternatively, can someone suggest a web page that's already out there on the web that could be included in a "External Links" section?</br>
[[User:LP-mn|LP-mn]] ([[User talk:LP-mn|talk]]) 20:30, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

== reference #19  leads to a blog site with no information about china banning skype.  ==

reference #19  leads to a blog site with no information about china banning skype. 


This is what people use for references on Wikipedia ?
I have very short time on any computer I am allowed to use. If not for this, I would make a Wikipedia account and become more involved. As for now, I leave this to any one who finds this post to correct this poor excuse for a "reference" to an outdated and removed post on a blog site.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.81.48.209|98.81.48.209]] ([[User talk:98.81.48.209|talk]]) 18:21, 6 March 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Who wrote the Microsoft section? ==

The Microsoft buyout section appears to have been written by someone who didn't read the sources properly and apparently doesn't understand how these things works. Many sources have mentioned the fact the deal still needs regulatory approval and will only be finalised later this year. This is bog standard for any large acquisition. For that reason the better sources instead say things like planned or announced not acquired. While I haven't see any suggestion these are likely to be a problem, it does mean it's inaccurate for us to say Microsoft already bought Skype. If you think this is just nitpicking consider that until I corrected it we said "Skype is now a division within Microsoft with Skype's former CEO Tony Bates now its president reporting to Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer" which isn't supported by any source and is almost definitely wrong [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 09:38, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
:I just found someone had also moved [[Skype Limited]] to [[Microsoft Skype Division]] despite the fact the later doesn't exist yet. And if you don't believe me does [http://blogs.skype.com/en/2011/05/microsoft_will_acquire_skype.html] sound like the words of someone who is already the president of Microsoft Skype division and reporting to Steve Ballmer? [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 10:09, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

== User Account numbers ==
We say: "Users may have more than one account; it is not possible to count actual users, only accounts". That as a statement is true. However we don't point out how unreliable a statistic "Account Users" is. I know of at least one person who had multiple accounts, thinking he had to have one for every internet cafe he visited, he didn't realise he only needed one and that it could travel with him. I know of several other people who have multiple user accounts, which are redundant. It's not possible to delete accounts, which makes "User Accounts" as a statistic misleading and unreliable... I'm not sure how we can highlight this as an issue outside of a talk page.[[User:BeckenhamBear|BeckenhamBear]] ([[User talk:BeckenhamBear|talk]]) 07:21, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

I've really always though Skype didn't depend on anything central at all, therefore couldn't really go down. However this morning it did and apparently it has something to do with supernode unavailability. Can someone explain exactly what a supernode is?

Is it just a randomly assigned computer which is assigned to be one? Why was there a shortage?

== Supernodes? ==

I've really always though Skype didn't depend on anything central at all, therefore couldn't really go down. However this morning it did and apparently it has something to do with supernode unavailability. Can someone explain exactly what a supernode is?

Is it just a randomly assigned computer which is assigned to be one? Why was there a shortage?  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Azoundria|Azoundria]] ([[User talk:Azoundria|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Azoundria|contribs]]) 17:28, 7 June 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Numbers on usage and traffic ==


In March 2011 the SEC published a Skype prospectus that shows different user numbers than the quoted presentations by eBay. I already added the source (#74). "From December 31, 2009 to December 31, 2010, we grew our registered users from 474 million to 663 million." This is opposed to 663 (2009) and 1000 (2010) in the article. Both numbers in the article have no valid sources. But the previous years (that have valid sources) are also not matching the numbers in the prospectus.

To make things worse the article states: "Skype has 663 million registered users as of 2010." Citation (#1) is a news article that sums up the SEC papers.

So do you think there is a way confirming either of the numbers? If not I would prefer the SEC numbers over the Skype Powerpoint slides.

And btw: I think the prospectus includes loads of information useful in other sections of the article. Maybe someone wants to  [http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1498209/000119312511056174/ds1a.htm check it out.]
[[User:JosefMayerhofer|JosefMayerhofer]] ([[User talk:JosefMayerhofer|talk]]) 05:42, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

:Hum, what other information do we have? And we also have to be careful with information, some may talk of active user accounts, while others may talk of total user accounts. A very confusing situation, in any case! I'm inclined to agree with parts of the SEC filing, so I think it's more likely to be 663 at the end of 2010. Trying to correct the old figures, I'm not sure about this 474 million, could it be active users? I saw [http://gigaom.com/2010/04/20/skype-q4-2009-number this site] which shows Skype finished 2009 with 560 million, the information 'coming from' Jonathan Rosenberg, although I'm not sure if the site would be a reputable source (probably more reputable than some eBay presentations, though). Anyway, for the time being I'm going to change q4 2009 and 2010 to '?'s, until we can decide something here :) [[User:ChrisWar666|- ChrisWar666]] ([[User talk:ChrisWar666|talk]]) 20:15, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

== Client Section ==

I'm not sure about anyone else, but does anyone feel that the gallery in the Client section is a bit too cluttered? Maybe it should be limited to screens of the latest versions on each platform (Windows 7, Mac OS X, Linux, etc) and remove all the screens that show the old version of Skype. They can even be moved to a new section even like History or something showcasing the old versions of Skype. What do you guys think?
<br/>[[User:Tyty1234|<span style="color: #808080;">tyty</span><span style="color: #0094ff;">1234</span>]] ([[User_talk:Tyty1234|talk]]) 20:12, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Also, it appears from the official site that Linux clients are available only for i386 and amd64 platforms.  If that's true, then the section really ought to say so. --[[User:Streapadair|Streapadair]] ([[User talk:Streapadair|talk]]) 15:53, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

== Linguistic aspect of Skype ==

[http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/onepercent/2011/05/words-leak-from-encrypted-onli.html Linguists break into Skype conversations]. This article sort of explain how listening works with Skype and linguistics. [[User:Komitsuki|Komitsuki]] ([[User talk:Komitsuki|talk]]) 11:31, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

==Microsoft Corporation or Microsoft Skype Division?==
Is the “Microsoft Skype Division” a legal entity? Surely following the acquisition of Skype Limited by Microsoft Corporation, all of the matters previously related to Skype Limited are now handled by Microsoft with a new division, “Skype Division”. “Skype Division” is just like “Windows Division” and “Business Division”, which is a part of Microsoft but not a legal entity by itself. The developer of the Skype software should be Microsoft Corporation, not Microsoft Skype Division. If not, the developer of Microsoft Windows should be “Microsoft Windows Division”, not Microsoft Corporation.[[User:Thljcl|Thljcl]] ([[User talk:Thljcl|talk]]) 10:47, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

== Who? ==

I restored the tag to the last paragraph of the acquisition section because not everybody understands what's implied by that statement. "Common" is a [[WP:WEASEL]] word that's vague, so it needs to be backed up.[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] [[User talk:Jasper Deng|(talk)]] 23:17, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
::While it is true that 'common' may be used as a weasel word, that is not necessarily and always the case. In this matter, there is absolutely no need to bring any proof, this truly is a common business practice on the same level as any other everyday company sale.
I am reverting back, it no more requires justification than it would for someone who has recently sold their business but the new owners have not yet taken possession ha a responsibility not to burn the inventory down. If you want a justification, please find one yourself.[[User:Pauci leones|Pauci leones]] ([[User talk:Pauci leones|talk]]) 21:24, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
:::Stop. My mistake, you are falsely attributing an edit to me which I did not make. I removed an unnecessary tag, not all the other information. That tag is still gone. Please respond here so I can understand exactly what it is you think I did and what you want done. Thank you.[[User:Pauci leones|Pauci leones]] ([[User talk:Pauci leones|talk]]) 21:29, 13 November 2011 (UTC)




EDIT : not sure how to separate this into a new section, not related to the text above !  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/89.164.213.196|89.164.213.196]] ([[User talk:89.164.213.196|talk]]) 04:23, 16 January 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
I'm new at this and I'd like to say just one thing.
I was surprised the article on Skype contained not one word (as far as I could see) on the pop-up ads in the program, and the complaints by many users, and the various methods that have come up to defeat these. This spamming problem is a quite important issue concerning Skype and something should be said about it here (I'm not volunteering for the job). That's all from me.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/89.164.213.196|89.164.213.196]] ([[User talk:89.164.213.196|talk]]) 04:21, 16 January 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::I was actually wondering the same thing, as it's been a fairly discussed issue at both the Skype forums and elsewhere. I am, however, not very good at finding proper sources or I'd offer up some good examples. Simple threads will probably not be enough, even if there are a large number of them.--[[Special:Contributions/68.6.182.39|68.6.182.39]] ([[User talk:68.6.182.39|talk]]) 22:34, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

== Clarification on ARM platform compatibilty? ==

Could you guys clarify if Skype would work on ARM since it's Debian compatible?

It would be cool to clearly specify what platforms it works on except for the well known x86 and x64.

Thanks.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/109.98.200.122|109.98.200.122]] ([[User talk:109.98.200.122|talk]]) 14:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

=== In Ethiopia ===
Removed this section because the BBC reference does not support the content:
<blockquote>Silently approved law denies all VoIP-calls, people can face up to 15 years in jail if they use Skype or similar internet call services.<ref>[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18461292 Ethiopia clamps down on Skype]</ref></blockquote>
The BBC reference was not conclusive that use of Skype in Ethiopa was illegal; some people were reported as denying this.  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Philu|Philu]] ([[User talk:Philu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Philu|contribs]]) 09:54, 13 September 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Adware ==

Why there is no mention of the ad banners the free version keeps displaying on the main screen? --[[User:TiagoTiago|TiagoTiago]] ([[User talk:TiagoTiago|talk]]) 01:24, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

== Khoti maggi ho gaye  ==

What's with all the "Khoti maggi ho gaye " spam?
Can someone remove it please?  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Phaedrav|Phaedrav]] ([[User talk:Phaedrav|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Phaedrav|contribs]]) 12:35, 22 June 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Changelog in Wikipedia page ==

The table of changes appears to me like a changelog of software and according to my opinion takes up too much space. I think such a thing should not be in a Wikipedia page. I suggest it to be removed or at least strongly abridged.[[Special:Contributions/84.72.8.29|84.72.8.29]] ([[User talk:84.72.8.29|talk]]) 22:30, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
:I agree; way too long, way too much detail.'''My name is [[User:Mercy11|Mercy11]] ([[User talk:Mercy11|talk]]) 23:32, 6 July 2012 (UTC), and I approve this message.'''

== File Sizes for Skype ==

I have found the file sizes for the latest Skype version for the following systems:
Mac OS X: 33 MB (Version: 6.0.0.2946) <ref name="Skype for Mac OS X - Now with Facebook Chat and Video Calling - Skype"> [http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/macosx/ Latest Mac OS X version of Skype]</ref>

Android: 10.02 MB (Version: 2.9.0.315) <ref name="Skype for Android - CNET Download.com"> [http://download.cnet.com/Skype-for-Android/3000-10440_4-75312694.html Latest Android version of Skype]</ref>

iOS: 19 MB (Version: 4.1.1) <ref name="Skype for Iphone, Ipod touch, and Ipad on the iTunes App Store"> [https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/skype/id304878510 Latest iOS version of Skype] </ref>

Microsoft Windows: 1.2 MB (Version: 6.0.0.120) <ref name="Skype 6.0 - TechSpot Downloads"> [http://www.techspot.com/downloads/50-skype.html Latest Microsoft Windows version of Skype] </ref>

I don't know if these should be added. I also know there are more out there. I just couldn't find it. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/71.167.137.83|71.167.137.83]] ([[User talk:71.167.137.83|talk]]) 17:14, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

<references />

==New Linux version==
Skype for Linux 4.1.0.20-1 was released yesterday. A source that could be used is http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIyODg, but if you can find a better one, put that one. I'm not good with editing in Wikipedia, which is why I put this on the talk page.
[[User:Superice97|Alexander Pavel]] ([[User talk:Superice97|talk]]) 20:30, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

== Educational Uses ==

I am editing this page as part of a college team project.  We came up with some information to add to the Educational Uses section since it seemed a little sparse.  Here's the information we wanted to add:

''Teachers are using Skype beyond its potential frivolous use and ensuring that its use fulfills educational goals. The videoconferencing aspect of the software is valuable in that it provides a way to connect students who speak different languages, hold virtual field trips, and reach out to experts in varying fields of study. These experiences allow students a chance to apply what they are learning in the classroom to real-life experiences and it also achieves further learning opportunities.''

Here are sources for this first section: 

''Quillen, I.  (2011, February 4).  Educators Move Beyond the Hype Over Skype.  Education Week:  Digital Directions. Retrieved November 5, 2012, from http://www.edweek.org/dd/articles/2011/02/09/02skype.h04.html''

''Video Conferencing With Skype.  (2012).  EdTechTeacher:  21st Century Learning.  Retrieved November 5, 2012, from http://edtechteacher.org/index.php/teaching-technology/discussion-ollaboration/25-video-conferencing.''

''Skype in the classroom is another is a free tool that Skype has set up on their website. It provides teachers with a way to make their classrooms more interactive and interesting.  Skype in the classroom is a service that teachers can sign up for that will allow students to meet other students, talk to experts, and share ideas.  Teachers can collaborate with other teachers around the world and design different learning experiences for their students.  There are various Skype lessons in which students can participate.  Teachers can also use Skype’s’ search tool and find experts in the field of their choice.''

Here is the source for this second section: 
 
''Connect your classroom to the world.  (2012).  Skype in the classroom.  Retrieved on November 5, 2012, from https://education.skype.com/
<br/> --[[User:KMobley2013|KMobley2013]] ([[User talk:KMobley2013|talk]]) 19:44, 25 November 2012 (UTC)''
<br/> [[User:Passwordisraptor|Passwordisraptor]] ([[User talk:Passwordisraptor|talk]]) 22:42, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

:Hi KMobley, you are welcome to expand this article. However, consider the following:
:* The phrase ''"beyond its potential frivolous use"'' is from a subjective point of view. Make sure you write in a neutral style > [[WP:POV]]. 
:* I like th exisiting paragraph on educational use, because it is very easy to understand. (e.g.: "Students in different parts of the world are paired off, each is a native speaker of the language that the other wishes to learn. In conversations over Skype they alternate between the two languages"). Your rephrasing might make the ''paired learning'' aspect harder to understand.
:* The second paragraph is written like an advertisement. Make sure you avoid ad-style writing > [[WP:Spam#How_not_to_be_a_spammer|WP:ADS]] 
: --[[User:Jesus Presley|Jesus Presley]] ([[User talk:Jesus Presley|talk]]) 21:33, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

== Services? ==

This article says nothing about exactly what services are available through Skype. For example, Skype offers VOIP type services, but does not make clear exactly what services are available and the cost. This article should contain a general description containing that information. ---[[User:Dagme|Dagme]] ([[User talk:Dagme|talk]]) 22:13, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

== Latest release's version number (Windows) ==

Hi!

Article tells, that the latest windows version are: ''6.3.0.105 (Desktop app)''</Br>
My Skype tells me it's version ''[http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/9743/skype6360105.png 6.3.60.105]''...

[[User:Fura Alak|Fura Alak]] ([[User talk:Fura Alak|talk]]) 09:02, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Sure, because you had unfinished developer version. It is sometimes made by a mistake of the developers. The finished public version has the third number always 0 (zero)...

[[User:Aleskva|Aleskva]] ([[User talk:Aleskva|talk]]) 13:00, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

== Spread of misinformation about Skype? ==

So anyone else got some 'misinformation' about Skype being hacked? From what I get I don't believe there's a credible source that shows any evidence of any sort that users accounts of Skype were compromised. If nobody got anything to add I think we'll just forget about this topic. Panic is widespread on the world but I don't think it has a place on Wikipedia. [[User:Logictheo|Logictheo]] ([[User talk:Logictheo|talk]]) 14:59, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

== Pronounciation of "Skype" ==

The pronounciation of "Skype" is debatable. I think in most countries around the world the word "Skype" is pronounced as /ˈskaɪp/. But in some countries I could hear the pronounciation /ˈskaɪpi/. I think we should ask the developers, because it is the best way to get the right pronounciation as the authors want and write it here. I am going to ask them and write here the result...

[[User:Aleskva|Aleskva]] ([[User talk:Aleskva|talk]]) 13:15, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
:I hear the same in Brazil, where the word "net" is pronunced as if it had a final e which is pronounced the same as in English, "nete".
Brazilians do the same for almost every word, examples: "web" becomes "webe", "red" (the Spanish word for "net" or "network") becomes "rede"... well, those are the two primary examples I could think of. --Marce 08:10, 15 March 2014 (UTC)  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Fandelasketchup|Fandelasketchup]] ([[User talk:Fandelasketchup|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fandelasketchup|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Opus codec ==

According to this news in Skype blogs:
http://blogs.skype.com/2012/09/12/skype-and-a-new-audio-codec/
they have released an open source codec called Opus. I'm not sure if Skype software is already using it, but I think it is worth mentioning in the article, that's why I added a few lines to the Audio Codecs subsection.  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Nicanor5|Nicanor5]] ([[User talk:Nicanor5|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nicanor5|contribs]]) 16:37, 3 May 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Microsoft is American, not British ==

I had to change date format from day/month/year to  month/day/year and also take out the "u" from "favour" because Microsoft is American, not British. --Marce 08:03, 15 March 2014 (UTC)  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Fandelasketchup|Fandelasketchup]] ([[User talk:Fandelasketchup|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fandelasketchup|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Skype is Northern European (creators were from several Baltic states), not American, and is based in Luxembourg, Western Europe. I just happens to have been bought by an American company. Day/date and spelling variances should reflect the original usage in the article, not the subject's current ownership's headquarter's location. They should also be consistent throughout the article. <small style="border:#CCC 1px solid;padding:2px">[[User:Fanx|<big style="color:#C00">'''''Fan'''''</big>]]{{N}} &#124; [[User talk:Fanx|<span style="color:#090">talk</span>]] &#124; <span style="color:#00D">00:16, 22 March 2014 (UTC)</span></small>
:: Wikipedia is an international medium, and numeric dates should be given in the international (ISO 8601) form, yyyy-mm-dd, which can be understood in all civilised countries. [[Special:Contributions/94.30.84.71|94.30.84.71]] ([[User talk:94.30.84.71|talk]]) 20:56, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

== New Linux Version "Skype 4.3 for Linux" ==

A new version has come out since a bit of time back. I guess I could add it, if not somebody else is quicker than me to add it :) [[User:Logictheo|Logictheo]] ([[User talk:Logictheo|talk]]) 10:27, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
:3 days ago "Skype 4.3 for Linux" got posted on the Skype blog. [[User:Logictheo|Logictheo]] ([[User talk:Logictheo|talk]]) 10:28, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

== Skype peer-to-peer ==

It may be worth adding a note saying that all Skype super nodes are now hosted within Microsoft's cloud (so that part of the infastructure is centralized) - http://markmail.org/thread/exc3srjkx3uu66bz .

[[Special:Contributions/46.208.221.218|46.208.221.218]] ([[User talk:46.208.221.218|talk]]) 05:44, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

:What I think it is worth saying is that Skype is not that P2P anymore. I prefer not to write about it because I do not speak english that well, but maybe you should write, and mention [[MSNP]] - http://blogs.skype.com/2013/10/04/skype-architecture-update/ ([[User:Chrishartung|Christian]] 29 September 2014)  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 18:42, 29 October 2014 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Unknown new version ==

As of today (2014-09-17) some awkward new version was released.  I have no clue what this is, or how to get information about it.  It's completely changed the UI to some horrid "app" style.  I cannot, for example, learn what version it is, configure it or minimize it to the tray.  The skype.com website doesn't have any information about it either.  I was hoping this article may shed some light on what's going on.  Not yet it seems.  [[Special:Contributions/174.4.173.18|174.4.173.18]] ([[User talk:174.4.173.18|talk]]) 19:38, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

:Is this the version released a couple of weeks ago for [http://blogs.skype.com/2014/10/09/improved-skype-desktop-clients-for-a-dynamic-new-chat-experience/ Mac], and today for [http://blogs.skype.com/2014/10/29/the-redesigned-skype-for-windows-desktop/ Windows]? ([[User:Chrishartung|Christian]], 29 September 2014)  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 18:35, 29 October 2014 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::If it is the version has been updated as well to 6.22.81.104 while the previous was only 6.21 [[User:Davie247|Davie247]] ([[User talk:Davie247|talk]]) 19:48, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

== Version history ==

Why in the world is there an extremely verbose version history in this article.
Over half the article is release notes. This is insane.

Can someone attend to this please? Thanks.
[[Special:Contributions/118.209.164.17|118.209.164.17]] ([[User talk:118.209.164.17|talk]]) 03:16, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

:{{done}} --<span style="padding: 3px; background: #EEE; color: #007; border: #CCC 1px solid; text-transform: uppercase; text-align: center; font-weight: bold">[[User:GSK|GSK]] ● [[User_talk:GSK|talk]] ● [[Special:Contributions/GSK|contribs]]</span> 03:25, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

::It was restored by [[User_talk:193.239.254.15|193.239.254.15]]. Removed again as per [[WP:NOTCHANGELOG]] and warned the user. There is no reason for there to be a changelog when it takes up more than half of the page and isn't even completely filled. --<span style="padding: 3px; background: #EEE; color: #007; border: #CCC 1px solid; text-transform: uppercase; text-align: center; font-weight: bold">[[User:GSK|GSK]] ● [[User_talk:GSK|talk]] ● [[Special:Contributions/GSK|contribs]]</span> 00:24, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Although I've read the linked pages about what Wikipedia is and is not I wonder if the change logs for each platform version would be better held as articles in their own right - ideally with a summary at the start and the details available as expandable sections as they are now.  Whatever the case - and on the assumption the sections will be somewhere - the (colour-coded) information about supported/unsupported/future releases seems of little value and ought to be removed.  (I expect only the current version to be supported.)  On a related tack - as the banner suggests - the OS X version information is out of date and whilst I could update it I wonder if it's worth doing - i.e. if it's all going to be removed. [[User:Harry The Bustard|Harry The Bustard]] ([[User talk:Harry The Bustard|talk]]) 11:57, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

I actually used the version history frequently, and even updated the information within it a few times about unreported changes to the program. If we can get a page for the version history, I would be willing to keep it maintained to the best of my ability.
Edit: Not to mention that Wikipedia was the only place one can find any information about version history for skype, and many users on the Skype community forums referenced this article. [[Special:Contributions/71.197.250.251|71.197.250.251]] ([[User talk:71.197.250.251|talk]]) 09:42, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

:Though it's done, Wikipedia articles should not include exhaustive change logs or revision histories. Further, self-published information should not be included. As with all information in Wikipedia, all information should be cited, and the sources should, preferably, be third-party. See [[WP:NOTCHANGELOG]]. [[User:Heat fan1|heat_fan1]] ([[User talk:Heat fan1|talk]]) 15:13, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

== MICROSOFT Skype (Skype in Outlook.com and other Microsoft Office Online services, Windows 10 for both P.C.'s and Phones, Etc.) ==

I want to wait until [[Windows 10]] is officially released but I want to already open the conversations to it if the information regarding [[Microsoft Office Online]] (including [[Outlook.com]]), [[Windows 10]] (including [[Windows 10 Mobile|Mobile]]) and other integration of Skype in other Microsoft services and platforms (Windows Phone 8.1, Xbox One, Windows 8.1, Etc.) ¿should the Skype integration with Windows 10 messaging application/protocol be mentioned in this article or [[Features of Skype]]? anyhow I hope to hear an answer within now and 8 or 9 months. Cheers, --[[User:Namlong618|Namlong618]] ([[User talk:Namlong618|talk]]) 17:43, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

== Skype-to-Skype still free ==

According to the Skype web site, Skype-to-Skype calls are still free.  An anonymous user changed this back on March 3 to say that they are not free, which was a major change to the article.  Wikipedia vandalism usually gets caught very quickly, but this one apparently was allowed to continue for several days. [[User:X5dna|X5dna]] ([[User talk:X5dna|talk]]) 05:54, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

== Is Skype P2P any more? ==

This page says both "Skype originally featured a hybrid peer-to-peer and client–server system,[23] however since May 2012 Skype is entirely powered by Microsoft-operated supernodes." and "The main difference between Skype and standard VoIP clients is that Skype operates on a peer-to-peer model". How are these apparently contradictory statements reconciled? Is it P2P or not? Is it *partly* P2P? Real-world implications are that if it's still at least partly P2P, this wold explain why sometimes connections from Skype are blocked as being to malicious IPs, but if not, then MS's servers in certain countries are being marked as malware providers, which would be amusing, but feels unlikely. [[User:DewiMorgan|DewiMorgan]] ([[User talk:DewiMorgan|talk]]) 01:43, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
:It seems to be not P2P any more. At least it stores previously sent files on its servers.--[[Special:Contributions/79.199.110.91|79.199.110.91]] ([[User talk:79.199.110.91|talk]]) 17:12, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

== Unknown? ==

In the section "Open Source Alternatives" (which is relatively pointless, if I do say so myself), it lists something called "Vox." WHAT IS VOX?! I googled "vox" and "vox messenger" and nothing about an instant messenger named Vox came up. [[User:Robbie0630|Robbie0630]] ([[User talk:Robbie0630|talk]]) 20:19, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
*I'll get rid of Open Source Alternatives. I agree, it is pointless. [[Special:Contributions/184.59.104.40|184.59.104.40]] ([[User talk:184.59.104.40|talk]]) 23:35, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

== Skype in small states. ==

Skype is repeatedly blocked in Spy - States. Also for private clients (such as <Belgacom> makes).This security is, perhaps, so sensitive. Even Skype can this <Mini -micro- Stat's> ruin and smash.[[User:Nasky3|Nasky3]] ([[User talk:Nasky3|talk]]) 13:26, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

== Support for Windows Phones ends July 1st 2017 ==

https://www.thurrott.com/cloud/microsoft-consumer-services/skype/117659/microsoft-end-support-windows-phone-rt-tv-skype-users-july-1

--[[Special:Contributions/78.51.212.224|78.51.212.224]] ([[User talk:78.51.212.224|talk]]) 11:58, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

== Skype logo changed ==

It was announced in June that the Skype logo had changed. I don't have the knowledge on how to change it, but here are some sources.
https://www.designweek.co.uk/issues/12-18-june-2017/skype-rebrands-logo-bringing-line-microsoft-windows/
http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/new_logo_for_skype.php

[[User:Sheeldz|sheeldz]] ([[User talk:Sheeldz|talk]]) 09:51, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

== Country of origin ==

Created by a swede and a dane, developed by balts and now owned by americans, and based out of Luxembourg, but where was the orginial company based? [[User:Pettsson|Pettsson]] ([[User talk:Pettsson|talk]]) 08:54, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:I think that it's fair to say that it's an [[Estonia|Estonian]] company, similar to how [[Sunrise (Calendar)|Sunrise Atelelier, Inc.]] was created by 2 French blokes, I think that the [[Skype Technologies|Microsoft Skype Division]] page would give you more information regarding that. Sincerely, --[[User:Namlong618|Namlong618]] ([[User talk:Namlong618|talk]]) 17:37, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
:: re: Pettsson - Estonians are not [[Balts]]. Estonians are [[Finnic]] [[User:SørenKierkegaard|SørenKierkegaard]] ([[User talk:SørenKierkegaard|talk]]) 15:06, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

== In all the social media websites, there must be login type added. ==

In all the social media websites, or the websites in which there is login, we must added proper description that how a user can login. like in some social media there is only login by phone number or in some email is only login or in some any of both are valid. 
There must be Login Type added in Infobox Software.
Examples

Login Type - Only by Phone Number
Login Type - Only by Email address(or Username)
Login Type - Phone Number or Email address(or Username)(Any)  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Niharpatel123456|Niharpatel123456]] ([[User talk:Niharpatel123456#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Niharpatel123456|contribs]]) 19:14, 4 January 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Skype Desktop vs. Skype for Windows Desktop  ==

The Skype Desktop currently listed is an "app." Then there's the UWP version. I'm confused about why there are two of those, maybe MS keeps screwing up on the UWP version. But I'm running "Skype for Windows Desktop," current version being Skype 7.40.0.151 for Windows 10, and Skype 7.40.0.104 for Windows 7 and 8. https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA34509/what-s-new-in-skype-for-windows-desktop. These versions of Skype should be listed as well. - [[Special:Contributions/75.72.74.25|75.72.74.25]] ([[User talk:75.72.74.25|talk]]) 08:15, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

:Skype 7.x has been discontinued and will no longer receive updates. It has been superseeded by "Skype for Desktop" (https://www.skype.com/en/get-skype/), which is currently at 8.15. [[User:Lonaowna|Lonaowna]] ([[User talk:Lonaowna|talk]]) 11:38, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

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This page totally need mentionning the reception to skype 8+ (the "weak snapchat clone" thing that was labeled skype, but isn't anything like skype used to be), and the reception of skype classic after Microsoft realized skype classic is the one people actually care for.

== Wrong version info ==

In the "macOS" section of the infobox it says the latest version is 8.32.0.53 released a week ago, but when I check for updates (I am currently running version 8.32.0.44) it says I am running the latest version. Why is that? --[[User:Fandelasketchup|Fandelasketchup]] ([[User talk:Fandelasketchup|talk]]) 14:06, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

== Wrong Linux information ==

The main info-box says "Linux: 	8.33.0.50 / 27 October 2018; 10 days ago" (according to reference #1 of the article<ref>{{cite web |url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype#cite_note-releasenotes-desktop-1 |website=Wikipedia |title=Skype - Wikipedia |accessdate=6 November 2018}}</ref> ), the date is correct, but according to the same reference<ref>{{cite web |url=https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA34778/release-notes-for-skype-for-windows-mac-and-linux |title=Release Notes for Skype for Windows, Mac and Linux |website=Skype Support |accessdate=6 November 2018}}</ref> (Reference #1 of the Skype Wikipedia article), the last Linux version is "8.33.0.41". [[Special:Contributions/186.176.156.162|186.176.156.162]] ([[User talk:186.176.156.162|talk]]) 16:13, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

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== Incorrect market share == 

Incorrect value(s?) in International call market share table. 
The 40% value listed traces back to a WSJ article: https://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/01/15/skypes-incredible-rise-in-one-image/
It clarifies that "that is, for every ten minutes spent making international phone calls on every mobile and landline network in the entire world, four minutes are spent on Skype." That comes to 4/14 rather than 40%, and that much only if Skype and conventional phones are the only participants in that market. [[Special:Contributions/82.17.70.176|82.17.70.176]] ([[User talk:82.17.70.176|talk]]) 21:57, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==

The current infobox screenshot shows Skype in dark mode, which is not the default one. I think it is better if someone legally overwrites the [[:File:Skype screenshot.png]] image with one using the default theme, for accuracy and better recognition. --[[User:Tim42|Tim42]] ([[User talk:Tim42|talk]]) 16:22, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

== 2020 and Zoom ==

It would be interesting to have a section on how Skype let itself get lapped by Zoom with covid and the increasing popularity of remote meetings. [[User:JKeck|JKeck]] ([[User talk:JKeck|talk]]) 14:38, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

What do you have in mind for this? Just statistics on Skype's MAU declining while Zoom grew? Or just direct comparisons of features that got Zoom the win in this race? It could be a good addition but I'm unsure if it should go on Skype's page or Zoom's. [[User:ASpacemanFalls|ASpacemanFalls]] ([[User talk:ASpacemanFalls|talk]]) 17:22, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

== December 2020: "Microsoft acquisition" section issue ==

Hi,

I have made an edit to this article, mostly cleaning up tone, style, etc. However, in the section "Microsoft acquisition", a statement I have edited mentions two Microsoft products being discontinued in favour of Skype. However, only one is listed, Windows Live Messenger, which is also the only one mentioned in the source. I have left it intact in case it is correct. If anyone else knows what the second product was, please add it, and if the statement is incorrect, change it to "In a month-long transition period from 8 to 30 April 2013, Microsoft discontinued its Windows Live Messenger instant messaging service in favor of Skype, although Messenger continued to be available in Mainland China."

Thank you. [[User:DesertPipeline|DesertPipeline]] ([[User talk:DesertPipeline|talk]]) 07:06, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

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== Misspelling in History ==

In the Post-acquisition section, "makeover" is spelled as "makover". [[User:Rev real|Rev real]] ([[User talk:Rev real|talk]]) 14:26, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
:Corrected. [[User:MPFitz1968|MPFitz1968]] ([[User talk:MPFitz1968|talk]]) 14:59, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

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== Please edit Security and privacy [PRC] ==

skype.gmw.cn to shiguangpu.com [[User:DreamAligame|DreamAligame]] ([[User talk:DreamAligame|talk]]) 09:52, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

== Note the Skype for Business retirement? ==

"On July 31, 2021, Microsoft retired Skype for Business Online. This retirement was announced in July 2019 to give customers two years advance notice to plan their upgrades to Microsoft Teams.... The Skype consumer service isn't affected by this retirement."
Skype for Business Online retirement - Microsoft Teams | Microsoft Learn [[Special:Contributions/206.39.250.30|206.39.250.30]] ([[User talk:206.39.250.30|talk]]) 15:26, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

:What are you asking for? [[User:Deb|Deb]] ([[User talk:Deb|talk]]) 07:33, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

== Important history detail missing? ==

Acc. to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBoaPeXoMf4&ab_channel=LGR 7:00-7:50]. It's lineage is in Santa Cruz Networks' (ex [[RealityFusion]]) [[TeamView]]. Then some people from the company developed the underlying tech under Skype. [[Special:Contributions/185.18.60.204|185.18.60.204]] ([[User talk:185.18.60.204|talk]]) 21:14, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2024 ==

{{Edit semi-protected|Skype|answered=yes}}
Please add the following text (including links) to the end of the [[Skype#Windows client]] subsection as a new paragraph: The Skype aplication for Xbox One and Xbox Series X/S was discontinued in June 2023. However, users on those platforms are still able to use the Web version of Skype via [[Microsoft Edge]].

Additionally, please add the following two external links as reference links, optionally using the "[[Template:Cite web|Cite Web]]" template:

*https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/skype/which-skype-enabled-devices-or-platforms-are-no-longer-supported-ada4fb50-b41c-4149-8561-83714e620978
*https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/skype/forum/all/cant-find-skype-app-on-xbox-series-x/0ef4c00f-5ac4-4304-bb07-f4f07c1f0139?page=2
[[Special:Contributions/58.107.85.151|58.107.85.151]] ([[User talk:58.107.85.151|talk]]) 20:35, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> <span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:#fff;border:2px dashed#69c73e">[[User:Cowboygilbert|<span style="color:#3f6b39">'''Cowboygilbert'''</span>]] - [[User talk:Cowboygilbert|<span style="color:#d12667"> (talk) ♥</span>]]</span> 01:30, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
::I see that you have opted not to add my proposed edits, stating that I needed to add [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. Could you please clarify which part of my two sources (particularly the first one, which is a support article from Microsoft themselves) does not meet reliability criteria? If the date stated is the issue, please simply leave that part out and add the rest, as I cannot locate any non-forum indication that June 2023 was the date the Skype application was discontinued on Xbox, as it was done very quietly and without any announcements. [[Special:Contributions/58.107.85.151|58.107.85.151]] ([[User talk:58.107.85.151|talk]]) 08:54, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::I see that my edit request was again closed, with the edit summary asking for better sources. I have managed to find another source from ''[[Windows Central]]'' (see [https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/the-latest-apple-rumor-is-another-concept-microsoft-abandoned here]) which does mention that the dedicated Skype application for Xbox was discontinued (in the third paragraph under the subheading "Where are the apps?"). I am hoping that this will finally be a reliable enough source to have my requested edit added. [[Special:Contributions/58.107.85.151|58.107.85.151]] ([[User talk:58.107.85.151|talk]]) 17:44, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
::: I've closed this request again as a procedural action since it has been contested, and so it should not be in the [[User:AnomieBOT/SPERTable|queue]], which is reserved for requests which are immediately actionable and do not possess contention. Pinging {{u|Imconfused3456}} to see what he has to say regarding your new source. Please do not change <code>answered=yes</code> until there is a [[WP:CON|consensus]] for an edit to be implemented, or all editors that have taken issue withdraw. —[[User:Sirdog|<span style="color:#056300">'''Sirdog'''</span> ]]([[User talk:Sirdog|talk]]) 23:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
::::{{Resolved mark|Use only the first source and information it supports}} - The [https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/skype/which-skype-enabled-devices-or-platforms-are-no-longer-supported-ada4fb50-b41c-4149-8561-83714e620978 first source] is reliable/useable because it meets [[WP:SELFSOURCE]] criteria. I would not use the [https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/skype/forum/all/cant-find-skype-app-on-xbox-series-x/0ef4c00f-5ac4-4304-bb07-f4f07c1f0139?page=2 second] or [https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/the-latest-apple-rumor-is-another-concept-microsoft-abandoned third] sources or information from them because I don't think they're reliable.
::::[[User:Imconfused3456|'''<span style="color: blue; text-shadow: 0 0 2px blue">Imconfused</span><span style="color: red; text-shadow: 0 0 2px red">3456</span>''']][[User talk:Imconfused3456|<sub style="color: green; text-shadow: 0 0 2px green">talk</sub>]] 16:08, 10 November 2024 (UTC)