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== Sitting Bull's name ==
On page 26 of the book, "Sitting Bull: His Life and Legacy" by [[Ernie Lapointe]], (Great-grandson of Sitting Bull), the specific Lakota translation is given for the name of Sitting Bull, Tatanka Iyotake, as meaning "Buffalo Bull Sits Down."    <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2605:A601:A9AB:E500:5C9E:AAD2:FC2A:4D02|2605:A601:A9AB:E500:5C9E:AAD2:FC2A:4D02]] ([[User talk:2605:A601:A9AB:E500:5C9E:AAD2:FC2A:4D02#top|talk]]) 16:45, 6 September 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

At the beginning of this article, Sitting Bull's name in Lakota is spelled out in IPA as  [tˣaˈtˣə̃ka ˈi.jɔtakɛ]. I cannot find any explanation of what the little superscript x's mean. Undefined Symbols are the Great Barrier of Learning. [[User:Friendly person|Friendly Person]] ([[User talk:Friendly person|talk]]) 17:09, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
:{{ping|friendly person}} that represents the guttural h sound that has no equivalent in the English language. You can hear that word spoken correctly [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrSZ3jUUUYA&feature=youtu.be here]. Other audio example of that sound can be found [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMGYRtHu7fk&feature=youtu.be here] and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV9EDGKR20k&feature=youtu.be here]. [[User:Oncamera|<span style="color: #e0e0e0; font-family: georgia; background-color:#785673; letter-spacing: 1px;">&nbsp;oncamera&nbsp;</span>]] <sub>''[[User_Talk:Oncamera|<span style="color: #ad0076; font-family: georgia;">(talk page)</span>]]''</sub> 19:10, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

== Killing of Sitting Bull's son, Crow Foot ==
If you read Crow Foot's Wikipedia article, it says, though without any source or evidence, <i>"Crow Foot was killed along with his father on December 15, 1890, by a group of Indian agents"</i>.
After googling for a bit, I found an excerpt from a book called "Voices of Wounded Knee" by William S. E. Coleman, which states on page 211 that Crow Foot was purposely murdered, even though he was unarmed and didn't do anything (according to eyewitness accounts). I feel like that is pretty important and should be mentioned in the "Death and burial" section, instead of just having it say <i>"The police killed Sitting Bull and seven of his supporters at the site [...]"</i>. [[User:Billy7|Billy7]] ([[User talk:Billy7|talk]]) 19:47, 14 December 2019 (UTC).

:@[[User:Billy7|Billy7]] I am nobody here at Wikipedia, but I do very strongly agree, if indeed a source can be cited. I wonder if there are other sources that can confirm (or refute) that info. [[Special:Contributions/2604:3D09:8878:4500:A961:FA8A:953A:9DA7|2604:3D09:8878:4500:A961:FA8A:953A:9DA7]] ([[User talk:2604:3D09:8878:4500:A961:FA8A:953A:9DA7|talk]]) 09:25, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:2604:3D09:8878:4500:A961:FA8A:953A:9DA7|2604:3D09:8878:4500:A961:FA8A:953A:9DA7]] Sorry for replying to my own comment, but I should have added that an additional murder happening at virtually the same time, that of Sitting Bull's son, is an extremely important detail, even though this is the first time I have ever read of it. Surely there must be other sources that can be cited to confirm or refute a claim of such great importance. [[Special:Contributions/2604:3D09:8878:4500:A961:FA8A:953A:9DA7|2604:3D09:8878:4500:A961:FA8A:953A:9DA7]] ([[User talk:2604:3D09:8878:4500:A961:FA8A:953A:9DA7|talk]]) 09:34, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2021 ==
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My I suggest deleting the "out" after "exited" in the last sentence on the section on Sitting Bull's early life? It is redundant and looks sloppy. [[Special:Contributions/85.197.14.112|85.197.14.112]] ([[User talk:85.197.14.112|talk]]) 21:44, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
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* '''What I think should be changed''':
Divide the "Battle of the Little Bighorn" into more sections and cut down for clarity. 

* '''Why it should be changed''':
The Battle of the Little Bighorn section details much of the leadup to the battle, which is part of the Great Sioux War (e.g. Sun Dance and the January 1 ultimatum, which occurred six months before the battle). It also includes information that occurs well after the battle (e.g. Sitting Bull in Canada).

* '''References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button)''':

[[User:Avocetour|Avocetour]] ([[User talk:Avocetour|talk]]) 04:27, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
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:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 12:18, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

== Weldon portrait ==

I am surprised that Weldon's portrait isn't shown here, the only portrait made of Sitting Bull and right before his death.
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Weldon [[User:Dan Bollinger|Dan Bollinger]] ([[User talk:Dan Bollinger|talk]]) 13:34, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

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== More citations needed? ==

In the second paragraph (which begins with "Before the Battle..."), the first sentence ends with citation [8]. After that citation, there are no additional citations in the remainder of that paragraph, and there are no citations in the next paragraph. Should there be more citations? [[User:Wafflewombat|Wafflewombat]] ([[User talk:Wafflewombat|talk]]) 06:43, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

== Crucifix given by Belgian priest Pieter Jan De Smet to Sitting Bull ==

You may add this info to your page: 
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitting_Bull#/media/Bestand:Little_Bighorn_Battlefield_-_kruisbeeld_Pieter-Jan_De_Smet_12-09-2014_12-01-25.jpg

Little Bighorn Battlefield - kruisbeeld Pieter-Jan De Smet 12-09-2014 12-01-25 - Sitting Bull - Wikipedia [[User:Hubaeck|Hubaeck]] ([[User talk:Hubaeck|talk]]) 13:16, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

== New Lead Image ==

[[file:Sitting Bull 1885.jpg|center|150x150px]]

I think that there are very high quality photos of Sitting Bull throughout his life, including the lead image. However, I suggest we change the lead photo to this because it shows a lot of detail. [[User:Wcamp9|Wcamp9]] ([[User talk:Wcamp9|talk]]) 20:09, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

:The design of bag he's wearing there isn't traditional to the Lakota compared to the feathers in the current photo. I'm not sure your suggested photo is a good choice to represent him as a Lakota medicine man and leader, considering there's a lot of photos of him to pick from that have him wearing clothes closer to men of his band in that era. [[User:Oncamera|<span style="color:#e0e0e0; font-family:georgia; background:#785673; letter-spacing: 1px;">&nbsp;oncamera&nbsp;</span>]] <sub>[[User_Talk:Oncamera|<i style="color:#ad0076; font-family:georgia">(talk page)</i>]]</sub> 06:28, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2024 ==

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The following clause exists in the third paragraph of the article:

". . . Sitting Bull was shot in the side and head by Standing Rock policemen Lieutenant Bull Head . . ."

For disambiguation and precision, the clause should instead be:

". . . Sitting Bull was shot in the torso and head by Standing Rock policemen Lieutenant Bull Head . . ." [[User:Pynchon.pinchoff|Pynchon.pinchoff]] ([[User talk:Pynchon.pinchoff|talk]]) 19:20, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{partly done}}:<!-- Template:ESp --> Updated to "chest and head" to match article Death section. [[User:LizardJr8|LizardJr8]] ([[User talk:LizardJr8|talk]]) 03:48, 4 December 2024 (UTC)