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== "Tool icon" ==

I quess that that floating "'''[x] This is a tool icon.'''" on the article is vandalism. Could someone remove it please. --[[Special:Contributions/209.73.137.14|209.73.137.14]] ([[User talk:209.73.137.14|talk]]) 20:25, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
:Sorry, not seeing it. Where is it on the page? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<span style="color:darkgreen;">日本穣</span>]]<sup>[[WP:HIJCS|?]]</sup> · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<span style="color:blue;">投稿</span>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]] · [[WP:JA|<span style="color:maroon;">Join WP Japan</span>]]!</small> 07:45, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

::For some unknown reason it shows only when I use my ip-adress. I took screenshot of it: http://imageshack.us/f/826/screenshotit.jpg/ [[Special:Contributions/209.73.137.161|209.73.137.161]] ([[User talk:209.73.137.161|talk]]) 10:12, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

:::'''Bug 36968 - "[X] This is a tool icon" showing on a random page''': https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36968 --[[Special:Contributions/209.73.137.161|209.73.137.161]] ([[User talk:209.73.137.161|talk]]) 14:40, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

== Leeds and the world's first science fiction convention ==
The following link makes a very strong argument that the first convention actually was in Leeds, including referencing historical accounts on the matter.
https://www.tinytickle.co.uk/worlds-first-science-fiction-convention/ and specifically https://www.tinytickle.co.uk/worlds-first-science-fiction-convention/#convention
Should this article be updated to reflect this? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:86.2.30.189|86.2.30.189]] ([[User talk:86.2.30.189|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/86.2.30.189|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> 15:31, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
:You are welcome to edit the information yourself, if you wish. I recommend creating an account for yourself first, so you can better protect your privacy and better track your contributions (I left a note on your [[User talk:86.2.30.189|IP talk page]]). ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<span style="color:darkgreen;">日本穣</span>]]<sup>[[WP:HIJCS|?]]</sup> · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<span style="color:blue;">投稿</span>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]] · [[WP:JA|<span style="color:maroon;">Join WP Japan</span>]]!</small> 16:04, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

== Requested move 9 March 2018 ==
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The result of the move request was: '''no consensus to move''' the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. [[User:Dekimasu|Dekimasu]]<small>[[User talk:Dekimasu|よ!]]</small> 20:36, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
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[[:Science fiction convention]] → {{no redirect|Science fiction and fantasy convention}} – This article discusses fantasy conventions in a short section, which, while unreferenced, seems correct to me: "Fantasy is usually considered alongside science fiction at conventions (the terms were used interchangeably for most of the period from 1926–1966). Conventions that are nominally science-fiction conventions such as Worldcon, are also fantasy conventions in all but name". I've created and redirected [[fantasy convention]] here (note we do have a separate [[:Category:Fantasy conventions]]). I propose renaming of this article accordingly, also in line with my related RM at [[Science fiction fandom]]. On a related note, I think [[:Category:Speculative fiction сonventions]] should be renamed to [[:Category:Science fiction and fantasy conventions]], something I will propose at CfD assuming this move goes through. PS. Please keep in mind this proposal is for renaming of this page, if  you disagree with something else I said here, I'd suggest starting a discussion section, put preferably not objecting to this RM, which is solely about renaming this page by adding "and fantasy" to its name.  <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]&#124;[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 10:31, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
*'''Support alternate move''' To [[Speculative fiction convention]] as there is already a category called that, and it encompasses sci-fi, fantasy and horror.<sub><small>[[User:Zxcvbnm|ZXCVBNM]] ([[User Talk:Zxcvbnm|TALK]])</small></sub> 13:44, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
:*The category correctly has two heavily populated sub-categories, Science fiction conventions and Fantasy conventions, which are two different, even if related, genres. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 14:02, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''', the two genres are related, have cross-over fans, but are not the same topic. Each convention type has many Wikipedia articles, and there doesn't seem to be a need to develop a hybrid in this instance. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 14:08, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per [[:WP:COMMONNAME]]. Nobody calls them "science fiction and fantasy conventions" except in rare discussions aimed at persons totally unfamiliar with SF, its history, its culture, etc. There is no article [[fantasy conventions]] because really, there are few if any fantasy-only conventions, other than the rare convention dedicated to a specific fantasy writer such as J.R.R. Tolkien, unless you count gatherings of the [[Mythopoeic Society]]. Most of the conventions which have been shoehorned into that category, with a bare handful of exceptions, are standard science fiction conventions such as fandom has been putting on for almost a century now; and at least one of the exceptions is a commercial operation putting on for-profit shows and calling them conventions. --[[User:Orangemike|<span style="color:#F80">Orange Mike</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:Orangemike|<span style="color:#FA0">Talk</span>]] 03:05, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
*'''oppose'''. This is unneeded. Science fiction is distinct from fantasy. [[User:Artix Kreiger|Artix Kreiger]] ([[User talk:Artix Kreiger|talk]]) 19:56, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
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