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==Original title==
I have heard that the original article of the title was not going to be "Pride and Prejudice". The article does not state what the planned original title for the book was going to be. [[User:Vorbee|Vorbee]] ([[User talk:Vorbee|talk]]) 16:41, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
:You'll find the original title mentioned overleaf at {{section link|Pride and Prejudice|Development of the novel|nopage=y}}. -- [[User:Michael Bednarek|Michael Bednarek]] ([[User talk:Michael Bednarek|talk]]) 01:21, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

== omission? ==

I regret that you have omitted in the reception, the "annotation" I did find in the edition of the story by Headline Review.
It told the "gesture" Cardinal Newman made when attended to read the story. He disgustingly threw it away from himself with the words: This woman will never have a "romance".

But perhaps it is "referenced" in the Reception History?

?(???)

[[Special:Contributions/145.129.136.48|145.129.136.48]] ([[User talk:145.129.136.48|talk]]) 12:59, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

== ''[[Much Ado About Nothing]]'' ==

Naïve query: Why are readers recommended to see also ''[[Much Ado About Nothing]]''?--[[Special:Contributions/217.155.32.221|217.155.32.221]] ([[User talk:217.155.32.221|talk]]) 10:43, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
:Probably just another old rom-com. [[User:GPinkerton|GPinkerton]] ([[User talk:GPinkerton|talk]]) 17:11, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
::Yeah, that must be it. Thinking about trimming this, if nobody objects.--[[Special:Contributions/217.155.32.221|217.155.32.221]] ([[User talk:217.155.32.221|talk]]) 08:19, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
:::Done.--[[Special:Contributions/217.155.32.221|217.155.32.221]] ([[User talk:217.155.32.221|talk]]) 15:15, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

== Date? ==
23:38, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[[User:Alanba42|Alanba42]] ([[User talk:Alanba42|talk]])

Right now it says "written by Jane Austen in 1813" Should it maybe be "written by Jane Austen and published in 1813?" Especially given the long section on the development of the manuscript?  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Alanba42|Alanba42]] ([[User talk:Alanba42#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Alanba42|contribs]]) 23:35, 23 November 2020 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
[[User:Alanba42|Alanba42]] ([[User talk:Alanba42|talk]]) 23:38, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
:That's definitely more accurate. Should go in.--[[Special:Contributions/217.155.32.221|217.155.32.221]] ([[User talk:217.155.32.221|talk]]) 07:56, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
::Yep, that's a fix. Good catch.--[[Special:Contributions/217.155.32.221|217.155.32.221]] ([[User talk:217.155.32.221|talk]]) 12:06, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

== Another "Zombies" reference ==

''[[Pride and Prejudice and Zombies]]'' was cited as most "closely represent[ing] the book.". Presumably this was a joke. The original version, sensibly cited to ''[[The New Yorker]]'', claimed the laurels for ''[[Pride & Prejudice (2005 film)]]''. However the actual review doesn't bear out the claim either: "The new film of “Pride and Prejudice,” directed by Joe Wright, plays fast and loose with the novel.".<ref>{{cite news |last1=Lane |first1=Anthony |title=Parent Traps |url=https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2005/11/14/parent-traps |work=The New Yorker |date=7 November 2005 |language=en-us}}</ref> Deleted.
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--[[Special:Contributions/217.155.32.221|217.155.32.221]] ([[User talk:217.155.32.221|talk]]) 10:17, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

== Change of citation style ==

Per [[WP:CITEVAR]], I'm asking if anyone would be opposed to a change in citation style. I'd like to expand the article a little and I think it would be useful to switch to short citations, using the sfn template, because right now the citation style is a bit messy and doesn't allow to cite pages. [[User:Poirot09|Poirot09]] ([[User talk:Poirot09|talk]]) 09:14, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

== Which option, Mr and Mrs, or Mr. and Mrs., should be used? ==

Jane Austen was an English writer, and ''Pride and Prejudice'' is set in England. Following [[MOS:ENGVAR]], the article should use British English.

There is likely other American English in the article, but the inconsistency is clearest in Mr and Mrs/Mr. and Mrs. I believe the British form does ''not'' include a period after Mr and Mrs, but I'm unsure as I'm not British, and the edition of ''Pride and Prejudice'' I have on hand is American. Related articles, such as [[Bennet family]], also have inconsistent usage.

I'd appreciate an answer, but in the meantime, I will change the American {{!xt|Mr.}} and {{!xt|Mrs.}} to the (presumably!) British {{xt|Mr}} and {{xt|Mrs}} on articles related to ''Pride and Prejudice''. [[User:Quirk4|Quirk4]] ([[User talk:Quirk4|talk]]) 04:07, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

:Never mind. I'll ask at the Teahouse. [[User:Quirk4|Quirk4]] ([[User talk:Quirk4|talk]]) 04:19, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
::There should be no full stop after the abbreviations, to be consistent with the British English as used in Wikipedia (some British people do employ them, but not here) [[User:Sbishop|Sbishop]] ([[User talk:Sbishop|talk]]) 08:18, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Quirk4|Quirk4]] Your question at the Teahouse was vague but for the discussion here the relevant guideline (not policy) is [[MOS:POINTS]] which says {{tq|Contractions that do not contain an apostrophe almost always take a period in North American English, but the point is optional in British English}}. Wikipedia is inconsistent, even in articles about characters from ''Pride and Prejudice''. Compare [[Mr. Darcy]] with a redirect from [[Mr Darcy]] but [[Mr William Collins]] with a redirect from [[Mr. William Collins]]. In my opinion (I'm British) the more frequent usage here is without the point but ''much more important'' for Wikipedia is to be consistent within any one article. I certainly wouldn't waste my time trying to unify all the inconsistencies although such matters do become more important when articles are being reviewed for promotion to [[WP:GA|good article]] status. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 11:41, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
::::Thanks. I didn't know about [[MOS:POINTS]]. It is easy to add/remove periods. On the "Advanced" toolbar, there is a "Search and replace" tool on the far right. [[User:Quirk4|Quirk4]] ([[User talk:Quirk4|talk]]) 14:23, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
:::Okay. From [[MOS:POINTS]] (which @[[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Michael D. Turnbull]] linked <del>below</del> in a reply), it looks like Mr. and Mrs. are used in both British and American English. I was the one who removed the periods on the ''Pride and Prejudice'' article. [[User:Quirk4|Quirk4]] ([[User talk:Quirk4|talk]]) 14:28, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Quirk4|Quirk4]] That's fine and this article is now consistent. I don't think that anyone will object to what you have done here but if they do, please use this Talk Page to discuss the matter further. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 14:37, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

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