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==History of computer games==
The article mentions the spacewar game as one of the earliest computer games, but surely there are earlier examples? For instance I came across mention that a machine in 1954 was set up to play [[Nim]] with visitors at an "open day" at a university. Perhaps those more familiar with computing history can name even earlier examples? [[User:EverGreg|EverGreg]] ([[User talk:EverGreg|talk]]) 20:27, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

== DRMs ==

I'm surprised nothing is mentioned about the implementation of [[Digital rights management#Computer games|digital rights management]] by several big name developers/publishers ([[Valve Corporation|Valve]] with just about any Valve [[Steam (content delivery)|Steam]] game, [[2K Games]] for [[BioShock#DRM and technical issues|BioShock]], [[Electronic Arts]] for [[Spore (2008 video game)#Controversy|Spore]], [[Rockstar Games]] for [[Grand Theft Auto IV#Windows version|Grand Theft Auto IV]], [[Ubisoft#Controversies|Ubisoft]] for [[Assassin's Creed II#Controversies and criticism|Assassin's Creed II]]) over the years. It's controversial, yes, but it's very well documented. So why is there no word on it? - [[Special:Contributions/60.50.253.82|60.50.253.82]] ([[User talk:60.50.253.82|talk]]) 18:17, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


== Oh, boy! ==

Alright lads? Heh heh. I think there should be an article which starts with "a computer game is the kind of game which is played by the use of a computer", like the Swedish wikipedia article 'datorspel'. 


== They are? ==
"As of the 2000's, PC games are often regarded as offering a deeper and more complex experience than console games"

Aren't the majority of pc games released also released on console now? And which games and just... What? That seems like a silly and somewhat biased statement even if you think that's good sourcing. [[Special:Contributions/69.204.74.28|69.204.74.28]] ([[User talk:69.204.74.28|talk]]) 00:46, 7 May 2010 (UTC)



The three links all talk about the differences between pc games and console games, but they still agree that pc games and console games just inherently focus on different things. I think the original statement above may not necessarily be wrong, but the wording may be confusing the meaning. A better way to say it may be "a different experience" rather than "deeper and more complex". 

In any case, the sentence does not fit in with the context of the opening paragraph, nor does the rest of the article return to the topic of pc games v. console games, so I'm not sure I see a point for it being there at all. [[User:Teapotarius|Teapotarius]] ([[User talk:Teapotarius|talk]]) 01:08, 6 September 2010 (UTC)


The statement sticks out like a sore thumb, and in its current form has no place in this article. I'm deleting it, with the hope that if someone puts it back, they do so by telling who says PC games are deeper and more immersive, why they think that, what the opposing view is, and most of all, why any of that is important and of encyclopaedic value.  [[User:Whimper|Whimper]] ([[User talk:Whimper|talk]]) 11:20, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

== Personal Computer game or any computer game? ==

I have a problem with the way this article is addressed. The title is '''Personal Computer game''' , but then right at the start it mentions ''SpaceWar!'' as an example... well, that's just wrong because ''SpaceWar!'' was only playable in a room-sized computer, several years before the first PC.

Even if the article was about any computer, in general, ''SpaceWar!'' would still be an inaccurate example because there are official records of computer games starting as early as 1939/1940 (NIMATRON) - that's about 15 years before ''SpaceWar!''.

I don't want to make changes without discussing the subject, so any opinions are appreciated.

[[User:Raven-14|Raven-14]] ([[User talk:Raven-14|talk]]) 17:08, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
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== Windows games ==

Why is this article in the category [[:Category:Windows games]]? This article is about personal computer games in general, not specifically about Windows games. It is true that this article mostly concerns Windows games, and Windows is the most popular games environment today, but that doesn't mean that personal computer games are equal to Windows games. Windows isn't even the only games environment today, just the most popular one. Some of the modern games are also released for MacOS and/or Linux. [[User:JIP|<span style="color:#CC0000;">J</span><span style="color:#00CC00;">I</span><span style="color:#0000CC;">P</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:JIP|Talk]] 15:47, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

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[[Personal computer game]] → {{no redirect|1=PC game}} – [[WP:Common name|Common name]]. Search returns: [http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=%22PC+game%22+-wikipedia&tbs=,cdr:1,cd_min:Jan%201_2%202005,cd_max:Sep%2030_2%202011&num=10#q=%22PC+game%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:Jan+1_2+2005,cd_max:Sep+30_2+2011&tbm=bks&ei=CsssTpmpE8L-sQL7puTNCw&start=450&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c648da7a3136792&biw=1366&bih=705 PC game, 414], [http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=%22Personal+computer+game%22+-Wikipedia&tbs=,cdr:1,cd_min:Jan%201_2%202005,cd_max:Aug%2031_2%202011&num=10#q=%22Personal+computer+game%22+-Wikipedia&hl=en&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:Jan+1_2+2005,cd_max:Aug+31_2+2011&tbm=bks&ei=Q8ssTofyGcHFsQL6vIyjCw&start=30&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c648da7a3136792&biw=1366&bih=705 personnel computer game 36]. [[User:Marcus Qwertyus|<span style="color:#214210;">'''Marcus'''</span>]] [[User talk:Marcus Qwertyus|<span style="color:#CC7722;">'''Qwertyus'''</span>]]  01:53, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
*'''Support'''; it's a <s>little</s> lot surprising that this ever received the current title in the first place.  [[User:LtPowers|Powers]] <sup><small><small>[[User talk:LtPowers|T]]</small></small></sup> 12:04, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
**Though, actually, I would even more strongly support a move to [[Computer game]], which redirects here.  [[User:LtPowers|Powers]] <sup><small><small>[[User talk:LtPowers|T]]</small></small></sup> 12:05, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
*<s>Per Powers, I also think that [[Computer game]] is the most common name.</s> [[User:Jenks24|Jenks24]] ([[User talk:Jenks24|talk]]) 06:06, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
:*[http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=%22computer+game%22&tbs=,cdr:1,cd_min:Jan%201_2%202005,cd_max:Jan%2031_2%202012&num=10#q=%22computer+game%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:Jan+1_2+2005,cd_max:Jan+31_2+2012&tbm=bks&ei=XVMyTsCXJOiCsAKuzNjmCg&start=430&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c8efd2d8228299df&biw=1366&bih=705 416] FYI. Though it's 380 after subtracting the "personnel computer game" results. [[User:Marcus Qwertyus|<span style="color:#214210;">'''Marcus'''</span>]] [[User talk:Marcus Qwertyus|<span style="color:#CC7722;">'''Qwertyus'''</span>]]  06:36, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
:**Thanks for the stats. I've thought about it, and I '''support''' [[PC game]], as it appears to be the common name and Hellknowz's reasoning below is sound. [[User:Jenks24|Jenks24]] ([[User talk:Jenks24|talk]]) 02:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
*I am a bit unsure how to interpret [[WP:TITLE]] here, so I'll just go by the main points. We generally avoid abbreviations in titles (unless exclusively known by abbreviation, and search results above are not exclusive to "PC"). However, search results suggest "PC" might be the common name, although I suspect (read: speculate) it is because saying "PC" is easier and catchier than "personal computer". Now, for consistency, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&redirs=0&search=intitle%3APC&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&title=Special%3ASearch&advanced=1&fulltext=Advanced+search PC is used] more than [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&redirs=0&search=intitle%3Apersonal+computer&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&title=Special%3ASearch&advanced=1&fulltext=Advanced+search personal computer] on Wikipedia. Precision would be using either "PC" or "personal computer", not "computer", considering most computers are not personal computers. So, I suppose in the end I convinced myself to '''support''' move to "PC Game" as common name, consistent with most other pages, albeit an exception to avoiding abbreviations. —&nbsp;<small>&nbsp;[[user:H3llkn0wz|<span style="color:#BB0000;">HELL</span>KNOWZ]]&nbsp;&nbsp;▎[[User talk:H3llkn0wz|TALK]]</small> 21:29, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
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==Personal computer game==
The title should be [[personal computer game]] not PC game as PC refers only to the IBM PC and its clones. [[User:SpeakFree|'''S'''<sub>peak</sub>'''F'''<sub>ree</sub>]] <sup>[[User talk:SpeakFree|(talk)]]</sup><sub>([[Special:Contributions/SpeakFree|contribs]])</sub> 14:07, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
:Nobody calls them that, though.  [[Computer game]] would be fine, and probably more accurate, so long as Mac games (and others) are included in the scope.  [[User:LtPowers|Powers]] <sup><small><small>[[User talk:LtPowers|T]]</small></small></sup> 18:20, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

:: Yeah, this article covers e.g. [[ZX Spectrum]], [[Commodore 64]] and other 8-bits, which were not generally called "PC games". PC meant IBM-compatible. It should be moved. [[User:Equinox|Equinox]] [[User_talk:Equinox|◑]] 19:26, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
::What about [[Amiga]]? [[MSX]]? [[Atari|Atari home computers]]? [[Amstrad CPC]]? [[User:Tucvbif|Tucvbif]] ([[User talk:Tucvbif|talk]]) 16:43, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:::Pro-Tip: You're responding to comments made 5-10 years ago. I wouldn't expect a response. You should probably start up a new discussion, either here or at [[WT:VG]], if you wish to get feedback and [[WP:CONSENSUS]] on this. [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 18:48, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

==Renaming this==

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[[PC game]] → {{no redirect|1=Computer game}} – [[WP:Common name|Common name]].

*The common name is "computer game".  I have never heard anyone call it a PC game or a personal computer game.  That's just ridiculous.  Google news archive search shows 13,100 results for "computer game" and only 5,350 results for PC game.  Also PC is used for IBM compatible, as oppose to Macs. So its misleading.  Macintosh had a massive ad campaign where you had a guy saying he was PC and another saying he was Mac.  For decades PC referred to just one type of computer.  Anyway, everyone please post where you support or oppose this rename. [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 20:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

*'''Comment''' Macs are generally considered a form of PCs, since the collapse of Mac marketshare under John Sculley, even if the Mac vs PC commercials from Apple are only a few years old. "home computer" and "microcomputer" are also sometimes used as synonyms... (the PC revolution is actually the microcomputer revolution... and home computer doesn't cover business computers) ; There is also the fact that computer games exist on non-micros, such as Colossal Cave which existed on minicomputers (or midrange in IBM parlance) such as the PDP-7 and PDP-11... and *nix & X/* games which also existed on workstations and servers and minis... [[Special:Contributions/76.65.128.198|76.65.128.198]] ([[User talk:76.65.128.198|talk]]) 06:32, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

*'''Support''' per nom as the [[WP:COMMONNAME|common name]]. – [[User:Pnm|Pnm]] ([[User talk:Pnm|talk]]) 06:37, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

*'''Oppose''' - Always referred to as PC gaming in the 21st century. [http://www.gamerankings.com/pc/995752-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3/index.html See this review site] or others where the game being reviewed is always referred to as a PC game. Note that the search result numbers provided by Google are about as accurate as a random number generator. I don't know why they even provide these numbers if they aren't accurate. [[User:Marcus Qwertyus|<span style="color:#214210;">'''Marcus'''</span>]] [[User talk:Marcus Qwertyus|<span style="color:#CC7722;">'''Qwertyus'''</span>]]  14:22, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
:It was Google news archive search.  That means that a lot more news reviews call them "computer games" than "PC games". [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 14:45, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
*'''Support'''  see [[WP:COMMONNAME|common name]]. [[User:Dlabtot|Dlabtot]] ([[User talk:Dlabtot|talk]]) 16:38, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

*'''Oppose''' - to be clear, there is a related discussion going on at [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games#Video_game_v._Console_v._Computer_v._PC_v._Electronic|WT:VG]]. "Computer game" is used in British vernacular the same way that "video game" is in the US. If this article is to stay in its current form, then a far more accurate title would be '''PC gaming''', as this article discusses hardware, genres, distribution, etc., but does little-to-nothing to describe the games themselves (just aspects related to them). ▫ '''[[User:JohnnyMrNinja|<span style="color:#202040;">Johnny</span><span style="color:#204040;">Mr</span><span style="color:#206040;">Nin</span><span style="color:#204040;">ja</span>]]''' 01:53, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
*:Could you post some evidence from highly reliable sources, like major newspapers and popular magazines? – [[User:Pnm|Pnm]] ([[User talk:Pnm|talk]]) 21:59, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
*::I don't have any specific refs that say "British people call video games computer games", but I can easily give you anecdotal evidence, and the best definitions I have are at the discussion at [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games#Video_game_v._Console_v._Computer_v._PC_v._Electronic|WT:VG]]. From the BBC, "computer games" used to describe ([http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13728288 Wii U], [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/7635404.stm Nintendo DS], [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8326152.stm Wii Fit Plus], [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6979949.stm generic video games] (list one actually talks about "computer games" in general terms and then talks about specific "PC-based software"). [http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/general/expressenglish/2011/04/110414_ee_computer_games_page.shtml This one] is for English learners ("PlayStation took over my life"), [http://www.bbc.co.uk/switch/them/dean.shtml "There's nothing better than beating your mates on a good computer game on the Xbox or Playstation"], [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7990927.stm Ecstasy pills found in X-Box computer game], [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-wales-16155149 PlayStation computer gamer wins competition], etc., etc. I think there's enough conflation to challenge the COMMONNAME argument. ▫ '''[[User:JohnnyMrNinja|<span style="color:#202040;">Johnny</span><span style="color:#204040;">Mr</span><span style="color:#206040;">Nin</span><span style="color:#204040;">ja</span>]]''' 22:31, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
*:::Gosh, that sucks. Thanks for posting those. After looking at them I ''so'' see your point. – [[User:Pnm|Pnm]] ([[User talk:Pnm|talk]]) 23:35, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

*'''Support''', per my comments at the last RM.  Though I caution Dream Focus that "PC game" is ''not'' ridiculous at all; it would be better to avoid such hyperbolic statements.  The problem here is that "PC game" traditionally refers to games that are playable on "PCs," that is, Intel/AMD processors running some variant of Windows or DOS.  "Computer game" is more inclusive and allows discussion of games that are playable under MacOS or other operating systems.  [[User:LtPowers|Powers]] <sup><small><small>[[User talk:LtPowers|T]]</small></small></sup> 16:00, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

*'''Oppose''' - Although some good points have been made, it really should come down to the content of the article and how the subject is approached in pop culture.  The term ''computer'' is a superset of consoles, mobile devices, Macs, PCs, etc., and should only be used as the title of an article that discusses them all.  ''PC game'' or perhaps ''PC gaming'', on the other hand, more accurately reflects the content of the current article and the industry as a whole.  It may seem unfair to Mac users who also have a decent selection of game titles, but the truth is that most if not all computer games in the past two decades have been designed with Windows in mind.  Then a select few are ported over to the Mac OS. Major reputable game sites such as [[IGN]] and [[Gamespot]] list the category as PC instead of computer.  An "everything" search on google produces 4 times as many hits searching for "PC game" (even if the number itself is not accurate, it's the ratio that counts).  News article counts can be misleading.  The same AP report can be published dozens of times over at several news sites.  These are not unique references in my opinion.  [[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 16:22, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
:*Not every source uses that term though.  IGN might just use it because its shorter and can fit on their toolbar with the other things. Xbox 360 PS3 Wii PC 3DS Vita iPhone.  Gamespot has on its toolbar Xbox 360 PC PS3 Wii 3DS iPhone Android.  And for a far longer period of time "computer game" was used instead.  Before the internet, did magazines ever call something a PC game that wasn't for IBM compatible? [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 17:18, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
::*If ''every'' source used the same term, we wouldn't be having this discussion!  While it may or may not be true about the convenience of choosing "PC" over "computer" to save space on a toolbar, that is a bit of a stretch to speculate either way.  Regarding the "longer period of time" claim, I'm not so sure that matters at this point.  All mainstream computers today are based on  the PC architecture.  [[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 21:45, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
:*The problem is not being unfair to Mac uses, but accurately reflecting the scope of this article.  If its scope is to include Mac games, as it probably should, then the current title is not reflective of that.  [[User:LtPowers|Powers]] <sup><small><small>[[User talk:LtPowers|T]]</small></small></sup> 01:07, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
::*Sorry Mac users. [http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2327233,00.asp Macs are PCs.] [[User:Marcus Qwertyus|<span style="color:#214210;">'''Marcus'''</span>]] [[User talk:Marcus Qwertyus|<span style="color:#CC7722;">'''Qwertyus'''</span>]]  02:58, 25 December 2011 (UTC) 
*'''Oppose''' per JohnnyMrNinja. In American English, at least in highly reputable sources, console games are not included in computer games, but are included in video games. So according to that, this move would obviously be a good idea because it's the [[WP:COMMONNAME|common name]]. In British English "computer game" ''does'' include console games, which makes it a bad title for this article and suggests that [[Computer game]] should be a disambiguation page instead. I don't like the current title but the proposed title is worse. – [[User:Pnm|Pnm]] ([[User talk:Pnm|talk]]) 23:43, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
::'''Comment''' - Even if the article were confined to American English, I'm not so sure I would agree with the move even then.  Although console games are separate in the U.S., the term "computer" can apply to a wider range of devices beyond the console that are not currently mentioned in the article.  [[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 19:29, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

There are 62,262,000 people in the United Kingdom and 312,833,000 people in the United States of America.  So five times as many people only say "computer" when they mean a personal computer, not a video game on something other than a personal computer.  Canada has 34,692,000 and Australia has 22,800,812, with New Zealand having 4,414,400 people.  If anyone is from one of those nations, can you tell us what they call it there?  We should go by what most people in the world call something, not just what one group calls them in one nation. [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 19:37, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

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==Another issue==
Should every single article with (computer game) in its title be renamed (video game)?  Why not (PC game) if its only for the personal computer?  [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_best-selling_PC_video_games&action=historysubmit&diff=466412573&oldid=465979105] [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 19:12, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

== Digital signal processor ==

The original Sound Blaster's DSP wasn't a digital signal processor. It was a "digital sound processor" (nothing more than a common micro-controller), it was a marketing move.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.155.194.191|82.155.194.191]] ([[User talk:82.155.194.191|talk]]) 07:08, 12 June 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== This feels too US-centric. ==

I don't actually know how to fix that, but as someone who might just squeeze into the "bedroom coder"[1] set mentioned early on in the article  I think that the experience and progression described here wasn't quite the same in Europe. 
In the UK we seemed to move straight from "Pong" on a TV to "ZX81", though perhaps the more affluent kids saw intermediate stages. 

[1] I did code in my bedroom, and the games did sell commercially. They are probably all now rightfully forgotten.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.36.223.243|82.36.223.243]] ([[User talk:82.36.223.243|talk]]) 23:21, 5 September 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Ref idea ==

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