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=="The Sudan" to "Sudan==
Per the [[Sudan]] article, it is becoming uncommon to use the definite article when referring to the country. --[[User:Impaciente|Impaciente]] 17:37, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

<!-- The neutrality of this article is subject to question. Stating that Al Bashir singlehandedly rules Sudan is msininforming. Al Bashir runs the country From within an insitition and is not the sole ruler. Secondly President Al Bashir is not ruling with an iron hand as stated, rather and due to the fact that the other political parties refuse to participate in the goverment or any democratic process of any kind; for thier own agenda; is Al Bashir seen as the only suitable candidate. His economic reform policies have proved by all measures to be success in improving the status of Sudan to one of the strongest economies in Africa. The ruling party in Sudan was able to transfer most Sudanese from below the poverty line to above it although a lot has to be done and what has been done will never be viewed as sufficient.
President Al Bashir is of very charismatic character and is considered a highly popular figure among many Sudanese. Yet the nature of Sudanese politics always critisizes the party in power without any attention being payed to the fact that former parties which ruled failed to produce a nation with any economic, political or military status.

I see Sudan's Minister of Information has discovered Wikipedia....

The comment above and the article itself appear extremely biased in a painting a positive portrait of the president, or one that greatly defends any negative assertion. This lends support to the above allegation that the article has simply been written by someone with heavily pro-Bashir sympathies.   <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/87.114.185.50|87.114.185.50]] ([[User talk:87.114.185.50|talk]]) 10:57, 13 February 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Aslam-o-Alakum ==

“When he returned to the Sudan, al-Bashir was put in charge of military operations against the Sudan People's Liberation Army in the southern half of the country”,,, False, false, false and false: Albasir came back to Sudan in 1974, there was no SPLA in Sudan at that time,,, this is the same American propaganda used against Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua, now they use it against Sudan, SPLA is new Contras, most of these propaganda stuff extracted from the CIA work, the funny about it is that make any Sudanese laugh, it just haphazard information used in USA because people DO NOT know nothing, my god!!!!!!!!!

:Oh, please! The CIA has always been right on target about that Cuban-puppet Comrade Daniel Ortega! People like you just refuse to fave it! --- [[User:DanTD|DanTD]] 00:50, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

== Even this discussion page has bias information... ==

In response to the person that commented before this comment...

1. How do you know the person who wrote this article is American?

2. Why do you think from one little thing on this article, you think it is right to judge a whole country?

3. Just because one person may not have their facts straight doesn't mean every American is retarded.

4. So what, we may get a few things wrong here or there, but I'd like you to write an article on the history of the United States and see how many facts you get wrong.

5. And simply, you could have just said what information in this article was incorrect (politely), instead of screaming out that everyone in USA knows nothing.

6. If you really think some of the information is incorrect, then go ahead and edit the article! This is what Wikipedia is for, so people like you who know the correct information can correct the article.

7. If you happen to have something against a certain race, country, person, etc., please don't post your feelings about it here. Go tell some anti-(whatever-you-hate) group, and shout it out over there.

                                                           HyperKraz

(I don't know if there is like a moderator or something of Wikipedia that is supposed to post messages like these, but I felt it necessary to say this. I hope Wikipedia doesn't ban me forever for doing this.)

Seems obvious someone is playing "protect the guilty" with this open source entry. There is no reason whatsoever why an International Warrant has not been handed down for this man for "Crimes Against Humanity". -->

== image of him ==

can somebody please upload that image of him?. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/71.175.1.237|71.175.1.237]] ([[User talk:71.175.1.237|talk]]) 02:44, 21 January 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

==Bashir or Al-Bashir?==
At various points, this article refers to him as "Bashir", "al-Bashir" and "Al-Bashir".  Consistency would be nice.  I notice that he's generally referred to in the English language as "Bashir".  [[User:Polemarchus|Polemarchus]] ([[User talk:Polemarchus|talk]]) 11:44, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

== Two wives at the same time ==

I notice the removal of polygamous info.  Please add more info. on [[Widad Bashir]].[http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/world/President-Bashir-you-are-hereby.4287299.jp]--[[Special:Contributions/71.108.3.62|71.108.3.62]] ([[User talk:71.108.3.62|talk]]) 11:37, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== Intro section ==

I noticed someone added this line "Al-Bashir is also the first sitting head of state to be convicted by the ICC". I might be wrong but wasn't he only indicted March 4th, 2009? I don't think he has been convicted yet. [[Special:Contributions/99.240.36.63|99.240.36.63]] ([[User talk:99.240.36.63|talk]]) 21:22, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

== Wife's Name? ==

Is his wife's name Valerie Heckathorn as shown in the second sentence, or Fatma Khalid as shown in the info box? [[User:Jmac1962|Jmac1962]] ([[User talk:Jmac1962|talk]]) 23:57, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

== The international community against the war crime warrant issued ==

The use of "the international community" is too vague and misleading. I think it would be better to simply remove that.

Old text: "The court's decision is opposed by the international community including the African Union, League of Arab States, Non-Aligned Movement, and the governments of Russia and China."

Proposed text: "The court's decision is opposed by the African Union, League of Arab States, Non-Aligned Movement, and the governments of Russia and China."

It is useless to add "the international community". This is a vague expression that could mean anything. And it is certainly misleading, as for a lot of people, that would include the USA and the countries from the West. Since this is not the case (The US are in favor of the court's decision, as well as France, Canada, etc.), and since using the expression "the international community" is not adding anything of value here, I would remove it.

[[User:Moob303|Moob303]] ([[User talk:Moob303|talk]]) 00:17, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

:I agree...I believe most (or all) of Europe supports it as well. [[User:ChillyMD|ChillyMD]] ([[User talk:ChillyMD|talk]]) 00:26, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Now it just says "The charges against President al-Bashir have been strongly rejected."
This is just as bad, if not worse than the original "international community" line as it also insinuates some kind of global consensus which doesn't exist. The majority of the signatories of the Rome statute, all of NATO, and the majority of Europe and North America appear to support the charges, and there is no information about that. This kind of imbalance on an article which is now linked to by the main page is disgraceful.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.189.52.158|173.189.52.158]] ([[User talk:173.189.52.158|talk]]) 03:46, 16 July 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Letter by Thomas Jackson ==

I seriously doubt the reliability of LaRouchePAC's article about Thomas Jackson's letter to Hillary Clinton.

First of all, LaRouchePAC is a political web site, who's purpose is to spread Lyndon Larouche's political ideas. Then, the source of the letter is never mentioned. So this is in itself not reliable. It is impossible to find the text of this letter anywhere else on the web. The only other times this letter is mentioned, it is referring to LaRouchePAC's web site. So it is definitely not an open letter.

Since there are a lot of doubts around the reliability of the source, I would remove the text about this letter, and the source (link to LaRouchePAC's web site).

[[User:Moob303|Moob303]] ([[User talk:Moob303|talk]]) 00:18, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

:If the news media decline to publicize an open letter, that doesn't make it any less "open." Jackson's letter is a primary source, and primary sources are permitted at Wikipedia, if used judiciously. The LaRouche PAC site is not an issue here, unless you have reason to believe that they have somehow tampered with the text of the letter which they include in full. --[[Special:Contributions/4.233.127.1|4.233.127.1]] ([[User talk:4.233.127.1|talk]]) 20:42, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

::Even if we assume that the letter is legitimate, why on earth are we quoting it?  Millions of people have written letters to their public representatives about the situation in Darfur — what makes this one notable?  The fact that the Jackson's letter has been completely ignored by the tens of thousands of media reports about the indictment (and even, it seems, by his local media) suggests that his opinion's not important.  Let's focus on the opinions of people who matter: legal scholars, presidents, and others who have been quoted in the international media.  [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Omar_al-Bashir&diff=prev&oldid=282309160 Deleted].  [[User:Polemarchus|Polemarchus]] ([[User talk:Polemarchus|talk]]) 10:06, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

::I understand your point. You are right. Even if LaRouchePAC is a political web site, it can be a reliable source I guess. But it does seem to fall under the category of questionable source ([[Wikipedia:Verifiability#Questionable_sources|Questionable sources]]), since Larouche is well known for his extremist and anti-Semitic views. How can we know for sure that Tom Jackson wrote this? The fact that this letter is not mentioned anywhere else makes this unreliable. And what is the relevance of this? There is not even an article on Tom Jackson on Wikipedia! Plus, you can only find this letter once on the Net. So even if it was written by Thomas Jackson, this is not an important fact. I think Wikipedia should stick to important facts. And it becomes important when it is mentioned several times in the press.[[User:Moob303|Moob303]] ([[User talk:Moob303|talk]]) 15:17, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

== Does he speak english? ==

He nods and appears to understand spoken English in this interview [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8046516.stm]. I think it might be Sudanese government policy only to talk in arabic. Anyone know what languages he speaks?  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tatty|Tatty]] ([[User talk:Tatty|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tatty|contribs]]) 23:24, 12 May 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== 200,000 to 400,000 killed ==

These allegations have been frequently circulated, but they do not represent a consensus. The world consensus is represented by Xinhua, which asserts that[http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200511/28/eng20051128_224254.html"thousands" have been killed] in the Darfur civil war. [[User:Kupredu|Kupredu]] ([[User talk:Kupredu|talk]]) 20:17, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

:So you're saying the Chinese government's mouthpiece represents "the world consensus", and all other sources should be deleted?  And you're willing to edit war to keep all dissenting voices out of the article?

:By all means feel free to add reliable sources that say the death toll is less than 200,000 but please stop deleting well-sourced figures that don't suit your POV.  Just because there's some disagreement about the figure doesn't mean we shouldn't mention it at all.  [[User:Polemarchus|Polemarchus]] ([[User talk:Polemarchus|talk]]) 07:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

: Are you for real Kupredu?  A Chinese government news agency is the "world consensus?"  China has had their fingers deep into Sudan for decades, and has turned away from increasing evidence for genocide also for years.  No responsible observer in the Sudan doubts the seriousness or malignancy of al-Bashir's efforts at ethnic cleansing.  Wake up!! [[Special:Contributions/207.180.128.8|207.180.128.8]] ([[User talk:207.180.128.8|talk]]) 04:22, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== Ethnicity ==

He's an Arab?? But why he looks like a black guy to me...? Maybe he has black people blood? --[[User:Elijahhee|Elijahhee]] ([[User talk:Elijahhee|talk]]) 17:39, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

:[[Sudan#Ethnic_groups]]. -[[User:Yk Yk Yk|Yk]] ([[User talk:Yk Yk Yk|talk]]) 23:53, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Is it known what his true ethnicity is (i.e., the tribe of his ancestors before they became "Arabized")?  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.94.143.192|76.94.143.192]] ([[User talk:76.94.143.192|talk]]) 11:37, 4 March 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


The arabic link from alrakoba webiste doesn't tell that he's from Ja'alin collation , actually his brother who was interviewed said exactly the opposite : We are not from Ja'lin tribe as people say. 
Please Let's correct this information.[[User:M.Saleh|M.Saleh]]  ([[User talk:M.Saleh|talk]])  <span style="font-size:smaller;" class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 23:18, 12 August 2015 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Genocide Charges ==

I have updated the article to reflect the most recent information about the added charges of genocide, but there is still not much information as of yet. Please feel free to add relevant updates and more mainstream references when they become available/known. [[User:Cwill151|Cwill151]] ([[User talk:Cwill151|talk]]) 21:17, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

== Self-hating black? ==

I believe he's one. [[Special:Contributions/71.212.215.24|71.212.215.24]] ([[User talk:71.212.215.24|talk]]) 20:37, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

== Arrest warrant/NPOV ==

I submit that the "Arrest warrant" section, specifically the paragraph stating that "The charges against President al-Bashir have been strongly rejected," does not comply with [[Wikipedia:NPOV]].  This paragraph expresses a view which is manifestly pro-Bashir, though there are certainly many people who fervently believe that al-Bashir should be arrested and put to trial.  Though undoubtedly al-Bashir has supporters, this can hardly be characterized as a consensus viewpoint.  The article should include such information, but it ought to present it as opinion, not consensus or fact.  It should present all sides of the issue.

Upon further research, it appears that these comments were created by [[User:Kupredu|Kupredu]], which has been adjudicated to be a sockpuppet of [[User:Jacob_Peters|Jacob_Peters]] and subsequently banned.  [[User:Jacob_Peters|Jacob_Peters]] has been permanently banned (and rebanned) for disruptive edits and sockpuppetry.  Based on his edit history, it looks as though he might have been attempting to use Wikipedia as a platform for advocacy of his personal political views.

In any event, I propose an overhaul of this section, to include deletion (or at least major revision) of the non-NPOV content, particularly that which was created by [[User:Kupredu|Kupredu]].  Does anyone object?  Would anyone like to help?  I do not wish to start an edit war, so if you think that I would be unjustified in making such edits, let's work it out first.  I promise I will be kind and civil.

I will add an NPOV tag to the article, or at least to that section.

When I have time, I intend to inspect the edit history to determine if [[User:Kupredu|Kupredu]] has made other edits to this article and, if so, if they also need to be edited.

Here is a revision comparison showing the edits in question: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Omar_al-Bashir&action=historysubmit&diff=288565338&oldid=287704757

[[User:Peteweez|Peteweez]] ([[User talk:Peteweez|talk]]) 16:10, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
==vandalism==
over 3 day old vandalism claiming that bashir eats children has been present on this article without anyone noticing. I am still struggling to find an unvandalized reivsion i can revert back too.[[User:Bunser|Bunser]] ([[User talk:Bunser|talk]]) 17:46, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

== Lead image ==

(Generally addressed to the multiple IPs/single person who has reverted my change to the article's lead image...) The image I favour ([[:File:Omar al-Bashir, 12th AU Summit, 090202-N-0506A-137.jpg|here]]) is superior to [[:File:L-Omar al-Bashir-Alfashir.jpg|this image]] for a number of reasons: it is more recent by a margin of four years, it has a much higher resolution, and it has no distracting background elements (microphones, flags, etc.). I have perhaps mischaracterised your intent to use the second image over the first image as vandalism. I am assuming [[WP:Good faith]] with the IPs' reversions, but change in image needs to be discussed rather than continually reverted (FYI, "he looks cool in traditional dress" and "I like it" are not a convincing argument). I'm willing to request [[WP:RPP|page protection]] if more unexplained reversions occur. '''[[User:IgnorantArmies|<span style="color:blue">I</span>]][[Special:Contributions/IgnorantArmies|<span style="color:red">♦</span>]][[User talk:IgnorantArmies|<span style="color:blue">A</span>]]''' 14:04, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

== Popularity ==

Isn't it true that he became much popular after ICC released a arrest warrant? [[User:Justicejayant|Justicejayant]] ([[User talk:Justicejayant|talk]]) 11:21, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:"Popular" can be a highly subjective term, but if you can find a poll from a reliable source showing that his popularity as a leader rose between certain dates, that would be useful. It would be difficult to prove that the arrest warrant was the cause of such a  rise in popularity, but again if there's reliable research that asserts a link between the two, then let's quote it. [[User:Ruby Murray|<span style="color:#FF0000;">Ruby</span>]] [[User talk:Ruby Murray|<span style="color:#C71585;">Murray</span>]] 14:49, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:: Maybe it's no more any question now. But I think that you should remove the quote of Bashir from lead, "thank god british minister denied..." that one. You can better add it to other sections. Thanks [[User:Justicejayant|Justicejayant]] ([[User talk:Justicejayant|talk]]) 11:15, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
he is line he is dead

== POV tag ==

''he led a group of officers in a bloodless [[coup d'état|military coup]] that ousted the government of [[Prime Minister of Sudan|Prime Minister]] [[Sadiq al-Mahdi]] <ref name=reuters-factbox>{{cite news|url= http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKL1435274220080714|title=FACTBOX – Sudan's President Omar Hassan al-Bashir|publisher=[[Reuters]]|accessdate=July 16, 2008|date=July 14, 2008}}</ref> when the country was at the risk of entering a countrywide famine.''

Pretty outrageous. He led a coup when the democratically elected government was in danger of making peace with the southern rebels. Bashir was so successful in continuing the war that the south broke away to form Southern Sudan taking all of the oil wealth with them.  --[[User:BoogaLouie|BoogaLouie]] ([[User talk:BoogaLouie|talk]]) 19:09, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

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==Some concerns about neutrality==
As anyone who knows anything about recent Sudanese history must know, in March 2009, General al-Bashir was indicated by the International Criminal Court. This article mentions all of the people, mostly in Africa and the Islamic world, who have condemned the indictment. I have no issue with that. What bothers me is that there is no mention of any of the people who support the indictment of General al-Bashir for war crimes. Reading this article, I rather got the impression that the ICC is way out of line in attempting to bring General al-Bashir to justice. There really should some mention of the pro-indictment voices. This is just my viewpoint, which does not belong in the article, but there is overwhelming evidence that al-Bashir has waged near-genocidal campaigns in South Sudan and latterly in the Darfur, to say nothing of imposing extremely harsh ''sharia'' law in the Sudan and supporting terrorism (Osama bin Laden lived in Khartoum for while in the 1990s). It was a few years ago that his regime sentenced a Christian British boy to death for naming his teddy bear Mohammed-thankfully the sentence was not executed as the Foreign Office applied strong pressure to allow the boy and his family to leave the Sudan. Who sentences children to death for names they give to their teddy bears? There is a very good case for bringing al-Bashir to trial, and this article by quoting all of the African and Muslim leaders opposed to the indictment and none of the various people who support gives the impression that the indictment is just wrong.--[[User:A.S. Brown|A.S. Brown]] ([[User talk:A.S. Brown|talk]]) 21:40, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

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== Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2019 ==

Omar al Bashir is not currently the president of the republic of Sudan as Sudan got its freedom on the 11th of April 2019. Elections for the throne of the president will be revealed soon. In conclusion there is no current president of the republic of Sudan.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/92.96.74.185|92.96.74.185]] ([[User talk:92.96.74.185#top|talk]]) 07:49, 11 April 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

{{not done}}. Still, we are waiting for the military's announcement and further confirmation from mainstream sources. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 07:52, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

[https://af.reuters.com/article/sudanNews/idAFL8N21T1H3 See here] --[[User:Panam2014|Panam2014]] ([[User talk:Panam2014|talk]]) 08:13, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

:"Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir has stepped down and consultations are under way to form a transitional council to run the country, government sources and a provincial minister said on Thursday."—That is not an official statement, which is what we wait for on Wikipedia. We are not in a rush. The protests weren't even mentioned in the article until I added them [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Omar_al-Bashir&type=revision&diff=891950523&oldid=891949502 a few hours ago]. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 08:40, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

== Weaselly statement from lead ==

I've removed this sentence: {{tquote|Some international experts think it is unlikely that Ocampo has enough evidence to prove the allegations.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.rnw.nl/international-justice/article/moreno-ocampo-slammed-abuse-power-chief-icc-prosecutor-denies-allegations|title=Moreno Ocampo slammed for abuse of power; chief ICC prosecutor denies allegations|publisher=[[Radio Netherlands Worldwide]]|date=22 July 2009|accessdate=3 November 2013|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131103153445/http://www.rnw.nl/international-justice/article/moreno-ocampo-slammed-abuse-power-chief-icc-prosecutor-denies-allegations|archive-date=3 November 2013|url-status=dead}}</ref>}} from the lead because (i) it's [[WP:WEASEL]]ly - which international experts? and (ii) whether Ocampo personally has evidence or not is irrelevant; what counts is whether the ICC - of which Ocampo was the head for many years - has the evidence;  and (iii) speculation about what evidence the ICC may or may not have is not really important information unless there are serious sourced claims that the case is built on flimsy evidence. If someone wants to restore any useful information from this, then it would make more sense firstly in the body of the article, and then it can be briefly summarised in what is already a very long lead. [[User:Boud|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud|talk]]) 22:29, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

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== 2021 Coup section ==

Is this section appropriate for a biography of of a living person? The actions of "loyalists" does is not biographical and from the content included in the section, does not involve him directly or indirectly.

I have removed this section for the time being but happy to enter into a dialogue should others disagree. [[User:Jo Jc Jo|<span style="background:#222;color:gold;border:3px solid gold;padding:1px;">Jo Jc Jo</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Jo Jc Jo|Talk💬]][[Special:Contributions/Jo_Jc_Jo|Edits📝]]</sup> 10:08, 26 April 2023 (UTC)