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== Update ==

First paragraph references the number of recognising states. But the hyperlink takes you to 147 states recognised. Original "recognized by 146 out of 193 UN member states." [[Special:Contributions/2407:E400:9003:4800:9013:9087:862B:B9F8|2407:E400:9003:4800:9013:9087:862B:B9F8]] ([[User talk:2407:E400:9003:4800:9013:9087:862B:B9F8|talk]]) 09:55, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

== The opening paragraph is lacking in a key detail. [Edit request] ==

The phrase "that have been occupied by Israel since the Six-Day War of 1967" needs to be expanded upon to "that have been occupied by Israel since the Six-Day War of 1967 upon their annexation from Jordan and Egypt, respectively". A cursory reading makes it appear as if these areas were either otherwise unincorporated territories or were somehow their own separate state prior to Israel's expansion into the area as a result of the 1967 war. It is not until after a full paragraph later that any mention of this is made yet opening paragraphs should be a concise summary of the articles they lead. [[Special:Contributions/66.249.231.78|66.249.231.78]] ([[User talk:66.249.231.78|talk]]) 21:03, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

== Requested move 23 April 2025 ==
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The result of the move request was: '''no consensus.''' Numerically, the "supports" have it, but looking at the strength of arguments presented I am not convinced that there is consensus here in favor of the proposed move and scope change. I encourage participants to continue discussing the scope of this article and potential merges elsewhere on this talk page. <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> [[User:Toadspike|<span style="color:#21a81e;font-variant: small-caps;font-weight:bold;">'''Toadspike'''</span>]] [[User talk:Toadspike|<span style="color:#21a81e;font-variant: small-caps;font-weight:bold;">[Talk]</span>]] 08:28, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
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[[:Occupied Palestinian territories]] → {{no redirect|Israeli occupation of Palestine}} – After the article about the State of Palestine was moved to [[Palestine]], I believe that moving this article to [[Israeli occupation of Palestine]] would clarify its scope and reduce duplication. Moreover, it would be [[WP:CONSISTENT]] with articles such as [[Israeli occupation of Southern Lebanon]], [[Israeli occupation of the Sinai Peninsula]], [[Israeli occupation of the Golan Heights]], [[Israeli occupation of the Gaza Strip]], [[Israeli occupation of the West Bank]], and the parent article [[Israeli-occupied territories]]. [[User:Hassan697|Hassan697]] ([[User talk:Hassan697|talk]]) 19:35, 23 April 2025 (UTC) <small>—&nbsp;'''''Relisting.'''''&nbsp;[[User:Arbitrarily0|<span style='color:black'><b><u><i>Arbitrarily0</i></u></b></span>]]&nbsp;<sup><b>([[User talk:Arbitrarily0|<span style="font-variant: small-caps; color:#FF4500;">talk</span>]])</b></sup> 22:16, 30 April 2025 (UTC)</small>

:Per the article and many comments at the last requested move, it's the [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. Some sources from the last RM include [https://www.icrc.org/en/document/ihl-occupying-power-responsibilities-occupied-palestinian-territories the Red Cross], [https://apnews.com/article/icj-court-israel-palestinians-settlements-2d5178500c0410341b252335859f2316 the Associated Press], [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/19/world-court-says-israels-settlement-policies-breach-international-law Al Jazeera], [https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/top-un-court-says-israels-presence-in-occupied-palestinian-territories-is-illegal-and-should-end-as-rapidly-as-possible PBS], [https://www.who.int/emergencies/situations/conflict-in-Israel-and-oPt the WHO]. From the article itself:
:{{tqb|Since 2012, when Palestine was admitted as one of its non-member observer state, the United Nations has been using the name "State of Palestine" to describe the political entity<ref>{{Cite book |last=Le More |first=Anne |title=International assistance to the Palestinians after Oslo: political guilt, wasted money |publisher=[[Routledge]] |year=2008 |isbn=978-0-415-45385-1 |series=Routledge studies on the Arab-Israeli conflict |volume=1 |location=London and New York |page=27}}</ref><ref name="UNOCHADec2009">{{cite web |date=December 2009 |title=December Overview |url=http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/ocha_opt_the_humanitarian_monitor_2010_01_18_english.pdf |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20100216063443/http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/ocha_opt_the_humanitarian_monitor_2010_01_18_english.pdf |archive-date=16 February 2010 |access-date=3 January 2010 |publisher=[[UNOCHA]]}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |date=30 August 2016 |title=Israeli practices affecting the human rights of the Palestinian people in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem: Report of the Secretary-General (UN Doc. A/71/364) |url=https://www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/71/364 |access-date=29 November 2016 |publisher=United Nations}}</ref><ref>{{Cite book |last=Le More |first=Anne |title=International assistance to the Palestinians after Oslo: political guilt, wasted money |publisher=[[Routledge]] |year=2008 |isbn=978-0-415-45385-1 |series=Routledge studies on the Arab-Israeli conflict |volume=1 |location=London and New York |page=29}}</ref> but continues to use Occupied Palestinian Territory to describe the physical territory.<ref>{{Cite web |date=2023-09-27 |title=Settlement Expansion in Occupied Palestinian Territory Violates International Law, Must Cease, Many Delegates Tell Security Council {{!}} Meetings Coverage and Press Releases |url=https://press.un.org/en/2023/sc15424.doc.htm |access-date=2024-08-22 |website=press.un.org}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |date=2024-08-21 |title=Occupied Palestinian Territory {{!}} OCHA |url=https://www.unocha.org/occupied-palestinian-territory |access-date=2024-08-22 |website=www.unocha.org |language=en}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs - occupied Palestinian territory {{!}} Home Page |url=https://www.ochaopt.org |access-date=2024-08-22 |website=United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs - occupied Palestinian territory |language=en}}</ref> The [[European Union]] (EU) also uses the term Occupied Palestinian Territory.<ref>{{cite web |date=4 November 2016 |title=European Union, Trade in goods with Occupied Palestinian Territory |url=https://webgate.ec.europa.eu/isdb_results/factsheets/country/details_occupied-palestinian-territory_en.pdf |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190528064232/https://webgate.ec.europa.eu/isdb_results/factsheets/country/details_occupied-palestinian-territory_en.pdf |archive-date=2019-05-28 |url-status=live |access-date=29 November 2016 |publisher=European Commission / Directorate-General for Trade}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |date=18 January 2016 |title=Council conclusions on the Middle East Peace Process |url=http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2016/01/18-fac-conclusions-mepp/ |access-date=29 November 2016 |publisher=Council of the European Union |quote=The Council highlights the importance of unhindered work of civil society both in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territory and follows recent developments in this regard with concern.}}</ref>}}
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:<span class="nowrap">[[User:Chess|Chess]] ([[User talk:Chess|talk]]) <small>(please [[Help:Talk pages#Notifications|mention]] me on reply)</small></span> 20:47, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:Chess|Chess]], I see your point that the current title reflects the common name for the article’s present scope, and I agree that "Occupied Palestinian territories" fits. However, my proposal is more than a simple renaming—it’s essentially a '''requested scope change''', which I should have emphasized more clearly. The current article largely overlaps with [[Palestine]], which now covers not only the political entity but also the country as a whole, including its territories. I suggest refocusing this article specifically on Israeli occupation, rather than on the territories as a geographic concept. [[User:Hassan697|Hassan697]] ([[User talk:Hassan697|talk]]) 19:17, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
:::Would that not be redundant to [[Israeli occupation of the Gaza Strip]] and [[Israeli occupation of the West Bank]]? [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 02:14, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
::::This entire article seems somewhat redundant, but Wikipedia is okay with articles that are Frankensteins of other articles so the propose move would not be redundant. [[User:Easternsahara|Easternsahara]] ([[User talk:Easternsahara|talk]]) 22:01, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
::::No, there is information specifically about the occupation of ''Palestine as a whole'', not just the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. The article should not be very big, but it can cover overarching aspects, while detailed content remains in the articles about Israeli occupation of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. [[User:Hassan697|Hassan697]] ([[User talk:Hassan697|talk]]) 13:42, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
:::::Yes, I agree. [[User:Easternsahara|Easternsahara]] ([[User talk:Easternsahara|talk]]) 15:46, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
::'''Support'''- I support this move and the scope change because this article largely synonymous with the [[Palestine]] article. [[User:Easternsahara|Easternsahara]] ([[User talk:Easternsahara|talk]]) 22:03, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
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::<s>'''Oppose''' - Occupied Palestinians Territories is a neutral UN designation. changing it to "Israeli occupation of Palestine" is non-neutral. Arab Extremists, the Houthis, Hezbollah and the Iranian Regime calls the Land that consists out of the State of Israel as "Occupied by the Zionist Regime". changing it to what's proposed fuels indirectly those sentiments. I source the ICJ case that calls them "Occupied Palestinian Territories". the wording "israeli occupation of palestine" comes nowhere in this case. <ref>https://www.icj-cij.org/case/186</ref> [[User:CharlesViBritannia|CViB]] ([[User talk:CharlesViBritannia|talk]]) 22:34, 4 May 2025 (UTC)</s>
:::The "Occupied Palestinian Territories" are occupied by whom? [[User:Easternsahara|Easternsahara]] ([[User talk:Easternsahara|talk]]) 22:57, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
::::<s>The ICJ, UN and the EU calls them "Occupied Palestinian Territories". who calls them "israeli occupation of palestine"? Houthis, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood, Iran Regime and Arab Extremists. hard to call it "Occupation of Palestine" if Palestine isn't a country with a unified government. you have Hamas controlling Gaza and the PLO controlling the West Bank, Furthermore i question your neutrality, as you blatantly claim on your user page to support a "one state solution" with Palestine as the Country.</s> [[User:CharlesViBritannia|CViB]] ([[User talk:CharlesViBritannia|talk]]) 00:17, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
:::::These organizations use "Occupied Palestinian Territories" to refer to [[Palestine]], but Hassan697 wants to rescope the page as a parent article of both the [[Israeli occupation of the Gaza Strip]] and the [[Israeli occupation of the West Bank]] because this article is just a duplicate of the [[Palestine]] article right now. I think you misunderstand his request. We can turn "Occupied Palestinian territories" into a redirect for the Palestine page if you want, since the organizations you mention use them for this purpose.  [[User:Easternsahara|Easternsahara]] ([[User talk:Easternsahara|talk]]) 00:32, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
::::::its unnecessary. "Occupation of Palestine" means in an Arab point of view that the area that Israel is part of today is part of Palestine. which it is not and never will be. 
::::::<s>The WP: COMMONNAME is "Occupied Palestininan Territories". cause thats what they are. Territories. if they were connected by land, it'd be considered Occupied Palestine. but its not.</s> [[User:CharlesViBritannia|CViB]] ([[User talk:CharlesViBritannia|talk]]) 02:02, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
:::::::So it is the Timor-Leste territories, not Timor-Leste? Similarly do you think that they are the Uzbek territories, the Tajik territories and the Krygyz territories just because they are not contiguous? What about Azerbaijan and Nakhchiva? Azeri territories. the WP:COMMON and WP:CONSISTENT name. Defining a state as something that is connected by land is quite absurd and arbitrary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Palestine/Archive_21#Requested_move_31_December_2024 this is the discussion that caused the move of the State of Palestine article to the Palestine article. it establishes that palestine is more common and now that most pages have been moved, palestine is more consistent [[User:Easternsahara|Easternsahara]] ([[User talk:Easternsahara|talk]]) 04:18, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Consistency matters for descriptive titles. This title is not descriptive, it's an established term in itself. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 04:49, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
::::::::<s>the WP:COMMONNAME AND WP:CONSISTENT is Occupied Palestinian Territories. per the ICJ, United Nations, European Union and Arab League. your feelings to the topic are irrelevant.</s> [[User:CharlesViBritannia|CViB]] ([[User talk:CharlesViBritannia|talk]]) 05:03, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
:::'''Note:''' the above comment and ensuing discussion should have been removed immediately due to the active arbitration remedies noted at the top of the page since @[[User:CharlesViBritannia|CViB]] is not extended-confirmed. You've already been made aware of this restriction as seen at your [[User_talk:CharlesViBritannia#Can't_edit_Israeli-Palestinian_conflict|user talk]]. Ideally this additional commentary would be removed in its entirely, but I'm not sure of the best way to go about that, so I'll strike it for now. [[User:AG202|AG202]] ([[User talk:AG202|talk]]) 05:12, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
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:'''Support''' per nom and @[[User:Easternsahara|Easternsahara]] <span style="text-shadow:#000 0em 0em 1em">[[Special:Contributions/Abo_Yemen|<span style="color:#000">𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨</span>]]&nbsp;[[User:Abo Yemen|<span style="color:#CD0000">Abo Yemen</span>]] ([[User talk:Abo Yemen|<span style="color:#000">𓃵</span>]])</span> 16:59, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' The term "Occupied Palestinian territories" is far more common and used by many organizations and media. [[User:Dash9Z|Dash9Z]] ([[User talk:Dash9Z|talk]]) 06:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' The occupied territories and the occupation itself are not synonymous. [[User:Charles Essie|Charles Essie]] ([[User talk:Charles Essie|talk]]) 15:22, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
::We might need to revise the lede. It's important to investigate how other articles refer to and link to this article. We also have [[Israeli occupation of the West Bank]] [[User:Cinaroot|Cinaroot]] ([[User talk:Cinaroot|talk]]) 07:22, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
:::Also [[Israeli occupation of the Gaza Strip]] [[User:Cinaroot|Cinaroot]] ([[User talk:Cinaroot|talk]]) 07:23, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
:'''Support''' per nom. [[User:AimanAbir18plus|AimanAbir18plus]] ([[User talk:AimanAbir18plus|talk]]) 12:16, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
:'''Support''' per nom [[User:Ahammed Saad|Ahammed Saad]] ([[User talk:Ahammed Saad|talk]]) 20:17, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
:'''Split''' As I've said above, the occupied territories and the occupation itself are not synonymous so if you want article about the whole occupation of Palestine, it should be separate from this one. [[User:Charles Essie|Charles Essie]] ([[User talk:Charles Essie|talk]]) 20:32, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

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== Merge? ==

This is not an official proposal, but I think that this article has a very, very large overlap with the main [[Palestine]] article. I do not think that it contains anything that the Palestine article, or one of its child articles, do not contain. When people refer to the "Occupied Palestinian territories", they mostly refer to Palestine. I think that the proposed move is a target rescope which is inappropriate because this article should be redirect to [[Palestine]] and a '''separate page should be created''' for the Israeli occupation. I am trying to reach a consensus, so please send your thoughts. [[User:Easternsahara|Easternsahara]] ([[User talk:Easternsahara|talk]]) 00:41, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:'''Comment''' There is no need to create a separate article for the Israeli occupation of Palestine. We already have two separate articles ([[Israeli occupation of the Gaza Strip]] and [[Israeli occupation of the West Bank]]) which provided sufficient information about these issues.
:As for the merge, I tend to oppose the proposal. Palestine is complicated issue, some countries see Palestine as a [[Palestine|sovereign state]] (China, Russia, the [[Arab world|Arab countries]], and other [[developing country|developing countries]]), some countries see Palestine as [[occupied Palestinian territories|occupied territories]] (the United States, the United Kingdom, and other [[Western world|Western countries]]). Until Palestine got admitted into the United Nations as a [[member states of the United Nations|member state]], we should keep both articles to reflect the different views about Palestine. [[Special:Contributions/2001:8003:9078:2401:A5A7:3EC9:C637:D578|2001:8003:9078:2401:A5A7:3EC9:C637:D578]] ([[User talk:2001:8003:9078:2401:A5A7:3EC9:C637:D578|talk]]) 02:40, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
::[[WP:POVFORK]], two separate articles for two opposing views? This is just a worse copy of the [[Palestine]] article. Perhaps an article should be created for Palestine in a similar vain to [[Legitimacy of the State of Israel]], but this is not the article for that. Perhaps we could redirect occupied palestinian territories to [[Legitimacy of the State of Palestine]] and then put a hatnote for palestine? [[User:Easternsahara|Easternsahara]] ([[User talk:Easternsahara|talk]]) 02:45, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
:::I'd suggest that we don't engage in IPs and other users who do not pass the current active arbitration remedies found at the top of the page. [[User:AG202|AG202]] ([[User talk:AG202|talk]]) 03:46, 5 June 2025 (UTC)