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==Extreme bias==
This article is supposed to be neutral and not attempt to make Heidfeld sound like an f1 god and kubica the worst driver ever.  My attempts to make it neutral have been reversed by some obnoxious Heidfeld lover who seems to also be a Wikipedia admin.  "He's proven to be the quicker of the two drivers this season"... yeah right, Kubica's car has problems every race and all of a sudden Heidfeld's the quicker driver, it's more likely that he's just been luckier with the reliability.
:I don't know if you're referring to me? I'm neither obnoxious nor an admin, but I have reversed your changes. You're right - the Heidfeld article is not neutral, however, adding arguments as to why Kubica is a better driver is not the best way to neutralise it. Myself and at least one other editor have argued, correctly I feel, that the article needs to focus on Heidfeld, not Kubica. I'm in the process of going through the article and removing some of the pro-Heidfeld language, which I hope will leave you a little happier at least. Cheers. (Btw I would have spotted your comments quicker at the foot of the page, which is the norm around here - hence my recent edit summary comment) [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 21:43, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
::OK, I've removed some [[WP:PEACOCK]] style language and cut some of the 'Nick would have done really well but.....' sections out. Better? [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 22:05, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh, by the way, anonymous editor, I'm quite a laid back tolerant kind of editor. I don't particularly mind what you call me, if it was me you were referring to. However, bear in mind that using language like 'obnoxious Heidfeld lover' is unacceptable behaviour on Wikipedia (see [[WP:NPA]]) and if continued could lead to you being banned (Not by me, like I said I ain't an admin). [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 22:05, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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==Redundant paragraph?==
''"Nick's 2005 season will be hard to beat in 2006, as he is racing for a team which are expected to be in mid-grid.  However, the team are expected to improve with BMW's presence and Nick, with a three year contract, is expecting to be challenging for wins by 2008."''
:Is this section still necessary?  It sounds like it was meant to be temporary for the period in between the 2005 and 2006 seasons, but it's still there![[User:Diniz|--Diniz]] 20:19, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

==[[2000 European Grand Prix]]: DSQ or EX?==
The [[Nick Heidfeld#Complete Formula One results|F1 results table]] in this article had Heidfeld as "disqualified" from the 2000 European Grand Prix.  Actually, he was [http://www.rte.ie/sport/2000/0520/formula12.html "excluded"] for failing the post-qualifying weighing (the car was two kilos underweight).  I was not aware of this until [[User:BleuDXXXIV|BleuDXXXIV]]'s [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2000_Formula_One_season&diff=71969738&oldid=68387968 edit] of the [[2000 Formula One season#Drivers|Drivers' result table]] in [[2000 Formula One season]].  Bleu changed Heidfeld's result from "DSQ" to "EX" there, with the reasoning that it should be "EX" because he never started the race.  However, Heidfeld ''had'' qualified 13th; barring him from the race seems to be "disqualification" in the literal sense of the word.  I edited this article's results table to match the edit that BleuDXXXIV made, but now I'm unsure.  I'll self-revert it for now.  What do you all think?  --[[User:Majin Izlude|Majin Izlude]] 17:13, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

:www.formula1.com has him as disqualified in the official results archive [http://www.formula1.com/archive/grandprix/2000/56.html here].[[User:Diniz|--Diniz]] 17:50, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

== Add given name 'Nicklaus' ==

In the past, I added Nick's given name, 'Nicklaus'. Someone apparently removed this for some reason. I'd like to add it again, but perhaps there's evidence against his name being Nicklaus? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/62.177.157.82|62.177.157.82]] ([[User talk:62.177.157.82|talk]]) 15:18, 19 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

== Engine blow-out ==

Most pedantic, yes, but although Nico Rosberg did clip him at turn 1, Lap 1 in Bahrain in 2006, he retired with engine failure halfway through, completely unrelated to the earlier incident with Rosberg. He was running 11th at the time (,or so I recall..) [[User:ALCUS36|ALCUS36]] 20:06, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

== Racing History ==

Under the Racing History Chart, Formula A is listed as a Formula (or car) series and not as a karting series.  Could someone make this correction as the current state is misinformative. [[User:216.191.219.194|216.191.219.194]] 22:36, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:Done. [[User:DH85868993|DH85868993]] 08:18, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

== Edit request from Bosanac01, 17 August 2010 ==

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Please change Heidfeld's racing bio, because he is no longer Mercedes GP driver, but Pirelli test driver. He was released from Mercedes GP contract.

LINK: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2010/8/11141.html

'''Nick Lars Heidfeld''' (born May 10, 1977 in [[Mönchengladbach]], [[West Germany]]) is a [[Germany|German]] racing driver, who is currently the official test driver for the [[Pirelli]]<ref>http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2010/8/11141.html</ref>.  He previously raced in Formula One from {{F1|2000}} to {{F1|2009}}, and was a test and reserve driver for [[Mercedes GP]].

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[[User:Bosanac01|Bosanac01]] ([[User talk:Bosanac01|talk]]) 11:09, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

He was still Mercedes test driver for part of the season and that should still be recorded. [[User:Britmax|Britmax]] ([[User talk:Britmax|talk]]) 11:20, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

{{done}} - Article has been updated.  [[User:BritishWatcher|BritishWatcher]] ([[User talk:BritishWatcher|talk]]) 16:04, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

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== Personal life - update? ==

As of today, the article says that he lives, "with his fiancée Patricia".  Surely they're married by now? ....... '''[[User:PKT|<span style="color: #880088;">PK</span>]][[User talk:PKT|<span style="color: #449900;">T<small>(alk)</small></span>]]''' 14:15, 23 October 2020 (UTC)