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== In the News ==
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=113816&in_page_id=34

An news story about a guy who failed to mind the gap, and his parents wanting to remove the gap..  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:SkippyUK|SkippyUK]] ([[User talk:SkippyUK|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SkippyUK|contribs]]) 11:28, 10 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Announcements ==
Hasn't the announcement changed from:

'Stand clear of the doors, please'

to:

'Stand clear of the closing doors'?

(Alternatively: ''sta clee of the clopthie doo'')

Slightly less polite, but perhaps they felt the additional explanation was required?

Let's not also forget the 'Mind the gap between the train and the platform edge' announcement - obviously intended for those who couldn't work that out themselves!

[[User:Mauls|Mauls]] 22:20, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

: Alot of the announcements vary between underground lines. Some of them have 'Stand clear, of the closing doors' whereas others have 'Stand clear of the doors, please'. [[User:Michaelkeefe|MichaelKeefe]] 09:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

The [[Tyne and Wear Metro]] recently changed their announcement from "stand clear of the doors, please" to a more abrupt "doors closing". It was rumoured that this change was made as a [[political correctness]] measure to appease disability discrimination groups - after all, if you're confined to a wheelchair, you can't exactly *stand* clear of the doors... [[User:217.155.20.163|217.155.20.163]] 03:03, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:Isn't the New York Subway similar? [[User:Kilo-Lima/Esperanza|<b style="color:green;">K</b>]][[User:Kilo-Lima|ilo-Lima]]|[[User talk:Kilo-Lima|<sup style="color:orange;">(talk)</sup>]] 20:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

lt1967
the 1967 stock has an announcement is Stand clear of the closing doors.
[[User:218.102.110.210|218.102.110.210]] 01:43, 31 August 2007 (UTC)   
Victoria1967/2009

== Subway? ==
Most of this article is about London Underground, in the UK - in which country "subway" does *not* usually mean an underground railway. Is this really the best link to use? [[User:86.149.2.48|86.149.2.48]] 02:57, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

:I agree, i've changed the text to 'public transit' as that's how it is described in the [[London Underground]] article. If anyone has any further suggestions, feel free to implement them as i think there's probably a better way to put this.  [[User:Michaelkeefe|MichaelKeefe]] 09:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

::"Transit" is American too, and rarely used in the UK (except in other contexts such as "in transit"). Londoners would usually say "public transport" in preference to the American forms "public transit" or "public transportation". However, I can't think of an accurate British alternative for "[[rapid transit]]", so I'll leave it for now. I don't know how a professional transport planner in the UK would refer to the system. [[User:Mtford|Mtford]] 01:25, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

== Related? ==
The American variant "[[Watch your step]]"? --[[User:Danielsan1701|Danielsan1701]] 14:02, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

== Diagram ==
It would be nice to have a diagram or photo of a strait car at a curved platform. Also, what is the maximum gap anywhere in the Tube system? [[User:BenFrantzDale|—Ben FrantzDale]] 16:33, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
:{{done}} &mdash; added photo at Bank Underground station. It's around 1 ft (30 cm). '''[[User:cmglee|cm&#610;&#671;ee]]'''&#9094;[[User_Talk:cmglee|&#964;a&#671;&#954;]] 15:16, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

== Baroque Cycle ==
In the last line of p. 481 of [[The System of the World (novel)]], [[Neal Stephenson]] has a character (in 1714) warn "Mind the Gap" in disembarking from boat to pier. Could he know something, rather than just tweaking the reader's nose? <br>--[[User:Jerzy|Jerzy]]•[[User talk:Jerzy|t]] 21:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)<br>

== Star Wars connection ==
In the October 17 episode of ''Star Wars: The Clone Wars'', "Destroy Malevolence," there's an Easter Egg connection to this article.  Watch the episode yourself (it will be posted on the Internet in full soon), and/or read the [http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000698.html video commentary].  Should there be a pop culture section of this article that would include things like this?
--[[User:Bassaf|Bassaf]] ([[User talk:Bassaf|talk]]) 13:23, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

hey guys i'm confused about something
in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw-oYvlElv4
the voice sounds a bit differant to the video in the article
now i think both of these are the 1968 versions so why the differance?  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.164.173.171|86.164.173.171]] ([[User talk:86.164.173.171|talk]]) 08:37, 5 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Recording technology==
The article claims that solid-state memory was used for audio recording in 1968, which is very dubious because solid-state memory was very expensive at that time, and economically infeasible for audio recordings.  It is likely that a magnetic recording of some kind was initially used, and only replaced with solid-state memory a number of years later.  Can anybody find [[WP:RS]] regarding the true history?  [[User:Reify-tech|Reify-tech]] ([[User talk:Reify-tech|talk]]) 17:40, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Solid-state is very, very unlikely for the time. Perhaps the confusion is over a continuous-tape system being employed?  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/51.7.0.10|51.7.0.10]] ([[User talk:51.7.0.10|talk]]) 23:07, 22 August 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

No reliable sources but this reddit comment of all things suggests solid state wasn't until after the kings cross fire in 1987:

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/ecjvfz/til_that_a_man_named_oswald_can_be_heard_only_at/fbcwnr6/

After 87 it claims it was [[EEPROM]].[[User:Geni|©Geni]] ([[User talk:Geni|talk]]) 13:30, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

:Which is impossible as EEPROM hadn't been invented in 1968. [[User:Notmewolve|Notmewolve]] ([[User talk:Notmewolve|talk]]) 11:20, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
::{{replyto|Notmewolve}} Geni wrote {{tq|After 87 it claims it was [[EEPROM]]}}, and since 1987 is later than 1968, it's not impossible. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 12:39, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

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== A recent variation seen on posters ==

"Watch your step when minding the gap." (They must think we are literal babies.) [[User:Equinox|Equinox]] [[User_talk:Equinox|◑]] 10:26, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

== Reasoning ==

Why is there even a gap to mind between the train and platform at all? [[Special:Contributions/2001:2044:126E:E000:D8F0:DCCC:DD70:1777|2001:2044:126E:E000:D8F0:DCCC:DD70:1777]] ([[User talk:2001:2044:126E:E000:D8F0:DCCC:DD70:1777|talk]]) 20:59, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
:It doesn't happen everywhere; the principal locations are stations on a curve. The platforms are necessarily curved to suit the tracks, but the carriages can't be made curved, they must be straight; so there are two situations:
:#if the platform is on the inside of the curve, it can't be too close to the track, otherwise the middle of the carriage would scrape the platform edge. This means that there will be a gap between the carriage ends and the platform
:#if the platform is on the outside of the curve, it can't be too close to the track, otherwise the ends of the carriage would scrape the platform edge. This means that there will be a gap between the middle of the carriage and the platform
:Whichever way you lay out the station, a gap must occur somewhere. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 17:29, 2 April 2025 (UTC)