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==List of Awards==
I'm asking anyone who knows how to create a List of Awards for this game. Here's a link that has a list:http://www.3drealms.com/max/awards.html [[Special:Contributions/112.198.217.227|112.198.217.227]] ([[User talk:112.198.217.227|talk]]) 10:30, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

== Speaking of names... ==
''(I've pasted a copy of (the first part of) this section in at 
{{Slink |Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games| ''Max Payne'' and "Max Payne"}}.)''

After discussing the names of many characters and other entities in {{slink|Max Payne |Norse mythology references}}, the section ends with   
:  Max's own bullet time abilities seem to mirror these of the berserkers, Norse Viking warriors who drove themselves into such a frenzy when they entered battle that they seemed superhumanly strong, fast, untiring, and unable to feel pain (the theme of Payne's necklace is a Viking longship).

How about ''Max Payne'' himself, as in "max(imum) pain"? Is he able to endure, ignore, or not feel even extreme pain? I've never played the game myself, and the article doesn't mention it, but it sure seems like a likely connection if true.

--[[User:Thnidu|Thnidu]] ([[User talk:Thnidu|talk]]) 01:44, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

: Since the article's subsection "Norse mythology references" provides no verifiable secondary reliable sources for the proposed connections between the characters and things in the game and the elements from Norse mythology whose names or notable* characteristics they share, the entire subsection must, as {{u|Rhain}} and {{u| Maplestrip}} [[Wikipedia_talk: WikiProject_Video_games#Max_Payne_and_.22Max_Payne.22| have pointed out]], be considered [[WP:OR| original research]] and removed from the article. 
:: * in the everyday, not the [[WP:NOT | Wikipedia]], sense of the word

: However, since this pattern of connections is as plain as the eyepatch on (Mr.) Woden's face to anyone who knows any Norse mythology, and all the Norse elements are well described on their own linked pages, it would be a shame to delete it entirely. And since [[WP:NOR]] flat-out says "This policy of no original research does not apply to talk pages", I am adding the subsection to this Talk page comment, below, and reformatting it as a bullet''{{s|-timed}}''ed list.

--[[User:Thnidu|Thnidu]] ([[User talk:Thnidu|talk]]) 18:52, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

=== Norse mythology references ===
Most of the elements in the game are named for figures from Norse mythology.
* In ''Max Payne'', the Valkyr drug is a fictional military [[performance enhancer]] that turns its users into [[adrenaline]]-charged killers who experience hallucinatory images of death. The [[valkyrie]]s of Norse mythology were warrior-women who watched over battlefields, the "choosers of the slain" who took those who died with valor. 
* In the game, Project Valhalla is the government conspiracy that developed Valkyr to enhance the combat effectiveness of U.S. soldiers and secretly tested it during the [[Gulf War]] of 1991. In Norse mythology, [[Valhalla]] was the afterlife of those selected by the valkyries: those who populated Valhalla would fight for the Norse gods in their wars.  
* The computer network in the Valhalla base is named [[Yggdrasil]], referring to the tree that connected the nine worlds in [[Norse cosmology]].
* The Aesir Corporation, mentioned frequently in the game and the primary source of the Valkyr drug, is named for the primary pantheon of Norse gods, the [[Æsir]]. 
* The head of the Aesir Corporation is named Nicole Horne; in the myths, the [[Gjallarhorn]] was sounded to announce the start of [[Ragnarök]], the Norse [[apocalypse]], a battle between the Æsir and the giants that results in the death of many deities and the rebirth of the world (Jack Lupino's [[Gothic rock |gothic]] [[nightclub]] named Ragna Rock is a play on the word "Ragnarök"). 
* The great snowstorm that takes place during the events of the game is a reference to the [[Fimbulvetr]], an epic winter that precedes Ragnarök.<ref name=making>[http://www.edge-online.com/magazine/the-making-max-payne?page=0%2C0 The Making of Max Payne], ''[[Edge (magazine) |Edge]]'', November 2, 2008</ref>
* Alfred Woden's surname refers to [[Wōden]], the [[Anglo-Saxons |Anglo-Saxon]] version of [[Odin]], a major god of the Norse pantheon (his eyepatch also references Odin, who sacrificed his eye for wisdom and knowledge).  
* Max meets him and the Inner Circle in the Asgard Building: [[Asgard]] is the Norse realm in which the gods live.  
* In the game, DEA agent Alex Balder was shot by his partner B.B. In Norse mythology, [[Baldr |Balder]] was killed when a sprig or arrow of [[mistletoe]] was shot or thrown into his chest;  his death was set up by [[Loki]], god of chaos and deception, just as B.B. deceived Alex and Max.  
* Max's own bullet time abilities seem to mirror these of the [[berserker]]s, Norse [[Viking]] warriors who drove themselves into such a frenzy when they entered battle that they seemed superhumanly strong, fast, untiring, and unable to feel pain (the theme of Payne's necklace is a Viking [[longship]]).

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== PS4 release ==

Pls add PS4 release details.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2A02:810D:840:7C00:1C0F:EC84:C9F2:D76F|2A02:810D:840:7C00:1C0F:EC84:C9F2:D76F]] ([[User talk:2A02:810D:840:7C00:1C0F:EC84:C9F2:D76F#top|talk]]) 13:04, 28 June 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The PS4 version is the PS2 version emulated to run on the modern hardware, and was not ported, wherefore we don't include it here. [[User:Lordtobi|<span style="font-family: Impact;">Lordtobi</span>]] ([[User talk:Lordtobi|<span style="color: #B0B0B0;">&#9993;</span>]]) 13:55, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

== Source ==

*http://web.archive.org/web/19981203035113/http://www.next-generation.com:80/jsmid/news/4143.html
*https://web.archive.org/web/19980204083816/http://www.next-generation.com:80/news/011798aa.chtml
*https://web.archive.org/web/20040227153803/http://www.gamespy.com/gamespin/july01/gamespin21/
*https://web.archive.org/web/20040921121906/http://archive.gamespy.com/gamespin/august01/gamespin23/
*https://archive.org/details/MicromanaTerceraEpocaSpanishIssue82/page/n55