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==Cartoon version==
(moved from article:)

With all these game show revivals, I thought it would be interesting to see a cartoon version of the Match Game or other celebrity panel show (such as Hollywood Squares, Battlestars, etc.).
:A cartoon would be cool.  Kind of like [[Laff-a-Lympics]]. --[[Shaggy]]

== Why was Richard holding two cards in the Head to Head match? ==

I was watching an episode of Match Game 76 where the contestant was a pregnant woman named Gail Warren.  At the start of the show they did a Head to Head match and she choose Richard Dawson.  The question was "Special Blank" and she choose "Delivery" for her answer.  When Richard pulled up a card that had "Delivery" written on it, behind that card at a slightly different angle was another card.  Was Richard's ESP something a bit more than that? [[User:JonM42|JonM42]] ([[User talk:JonM42|talk]]) 19:31, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== When was the first "how ____ is it?" ==

Right now on the gameshow network the reruns are in 1974.  I noted that when Gene Rayburn says "Dumb Dora is so dumb..." that the crowd does not say "How dumb is she?"

Does anyone know when that started?

I'm watching an episode right now on GSN and Gene said that "Dumb Dora's boat was sinking so she threw ______ overboard." and there was no "How dumb is she?". The contestent said "herself" and Gene said "We'll Dumb Dora must of been that dumb." One of the celeberties said "I'm wondering how dumb Dumb Dora is." I'm guessing it started from that episode.

It was sometime in '75 because I've been watching it on GSN and at first the panel was starting it and then the audience started. [[User:Splent|Splent]] 20:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)


*The "how ___ is it?" was also a staple of [[The Tonight Show]] - I doubt Match Game invented it. --[[User:Jajasoon|Jajasoon]] 15:37, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
**Johnny Carson did "How cold/hot was it?" long before the 1973 ''Match Game'' revival (Carson hosted ''The Tonight Show'' from 1962 to 1992). However, there is another connection between ''Match Game'' and ''Tonight'': Gene Rayburn was the announcer and sidekick of Steve Allen's ''Tonight'' Show (in the early 1950s), and, in fact, substituted for Johnny on several occasions in the 1960s. [[User:147.70.242.40|147.70.242.40]] 00:00, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

== Low ratings ==

Is there a source for the CBS version being on the brink of cancellation early in the run?  I've never seen this information before, and the text below, where it notes the show shot to #1 in six weeks, seems to contradict it.

You might be thinking of the NBC run of the show.

:I think it ''was'' the CBS version; as it only shot to #1 after the type of questions changed from boring to bawdy. [[User:Green lantern40|The Green Lantern]] 01:05, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

==Split the 60's MG into its own article==
We've already split the ''Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour'' into a separate article. I was wondering whether an article on the original ''The Match Game'' (the 1962-1969 version) is in order, since its rules and gameplay were different from the one we all know and love. The MG '73 and all subsequent incarnations (save for MG/HS Hour) should be together, since the premise is the same. [[[[User:Briguy52748|Briguy52748]] 20:02, 13 July 2006 (UTC)]]

: '''Weak oppose.''' I don't think there's enough info there to warrant a split. [[User:Lambertman|Lambertman]] 23:19, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

== Proposal to add [[Template:split]] ==

Go to article, click "edit the page", and realize that the article's size is at least 40 kilobytes. This is because we have long entries about so many versions of ''Match Game''. I was wondering if it's best that this page splits up into different articles. Click [[The Price Is Right]] and see for yourself. --[[User:Gh87|Gh87]] 04:21, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

== Incorrect Information ==
The number of shows that were run are different on the panel at the right and in the first few sentences. Someone should fix that. --[[User:216.11.55.3|216.11.55.3]] 18:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

== In the intro, you can hear the Password/Password Plus/Super Password error sound ==

In the intro to some of the shows, you can faintly hear the four beeps used on Password when the contestant gives an invalid clue.  Some other times, you can also hear it during the cue music.  I'd like to add this observation to the article, but I'm unsure how to phrase it, and I'm not sure if or how it can be sourced. [[User:Mooinglemur|Mooinglemur]] 07:04, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

I think it's the stage crew saying hi to the celebrities in a wierd way. Once, I heard that sound, and Richard Dawson was holding up a card that read, "Hi Johnny" or something. I know of an episode where Richard wrote something along the lines of "Johnny Olsen is less handsome in person" and then Johnny Olsen said, "Oh, come on now!" LOL.--[[User:Ephraim225|Ephraim225]] 20:01, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
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== ''The Match Game'' / ''Match Game'' Distinction ==
I have an idea: Instead of just referring to the original '60s version as "the 1963-1969 incarnation," how about we just call it ''The Match Game'' and take the "The" out of the title when referring to the 1973-1998 versions? [[User:Green lantern40|The Green Lantern]] 01:04, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

== "Match Game 1990" Returning in 2007? ==
Who keeps putting this back in the article, and do you have any proof? [[User:Green lantern40|The Green Lantern]] 02:32, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

==Major cleanup and editing of article underway==
As of July 18, this page was 62 kilobytes long - a warning appears during editing if it gets over 30.  Throughout the article are numerous instances of [[Wikipedia:fancruft|fancruft]], [[Wikipedia:No original research|original research]], and huge amounts of [[WP:NOT#INFO|indiscriminate information]].  In addition, all speculations are violations of [[Wikipedia:Verifiability]] and need to be removed.  Please remember when working on this article that it needs to be encyclopedic in nature - it should have enough information that a casual reader could understand the show completely, but not so much that only a diehard fan can appreciate and understand it (that's why game show fan websites exist anyway).  My intent is not to upset anyone or step on toes, but let's keep the article a little more concise!  Thanks... --[[User:Goldrushcavi|Goldrushcavi]] 00:06, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

: Good luck. I've tried to clean this up, but the anon put it all back and more. It's why I've given up. [[User:Lambertman|Lambertman]] 21:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

== This is almost a good article candidate ==

All this needs are a LOT more references and citations, along with some light trimming, and it's a Good Article candidate very easily. Possibly even a featured article. Just needs references and trimming. Good luck to all who work on this article! I think only three articles are GA's (Price is Right is one, and I did a lot of work and made [[To Tell the Truth]] one, and I think one other is...), and it would be great to see this article make it! :) [[User:FamicomJL|FamicomJL]] 06:53, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
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==Possible revial coming to TBS???==

TBS has ordered a pilot of it, and word is it might be scheduled as a late night snow. The source with this information is www.tvgameshows.net [[Special:Contributions/65.31.33.93|65.31.33.93]] ([[User talk:65.31.33.93|talk]]) 17:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Same source says the tapings will begin June 21st at TVC. Confirmed. We can't add it though because they have it locked. [[User:Ampm2008|Ampm2008]] ([[User talk:Ampm2008|talk]]) 20:54, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

:Do you have a verifiable source that is not a blog? --[[User:Mhking|Mhking]] ([[User talk:Mhking|talk]]) 21:25, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

==Why isn't Match Game PM covered here?==

Why isn't it covered in the main article? It was a bit different from Match Game 7X, so why isn't it mentioned?  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.201.184.137|67.201.184.137]] ([[User talk:67.201.184.137|talk]]) 06:59, 26 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Order of the article ==

Does it make sense for anyone to have the article chronological? IE: have "The Match Game" (60s) listed first, described, etc., and then have the 70s revival listed, and then the spinoffs? The 70s version may be the most famous today (owed in no small part to its GSN rerunning), but that doesn't necessarily mean it should have its gameplay described before even mentioning that there were other versions with different gameplay, including the original series which lasted several years and was fairly notable. [[User:TheHYPO|TheHYPO]] ([[User talk:TheHYPO|talk]]) 18:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

==UK infobox?==
In the infobox I see "presenter" and "narrated" where there should be "host" or "emcee," and "announcer," respectively. I went in to change these, and instead of my changes being reflected in preview mode, these lines entirely disappeared. "Presenter" is definitely a UK term for this sort of job, and when I was looking for my changes I noticed "channel" which an American would not use in this way; we'd say venue (since there have been syndicated versions, and that is not a "channel" at all). How do we replace this UK infobox with a USA one? --[[User:Tbrittreid|Tbrittreid]] ([[User talk:Tbrittreid|talk]]) 20:48, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

:That's how Wikipedia's Infoboxes are, and are used for all game show articles that use an Infobox (but not all game show articles ''have'' them, mind you). And having Syndicated as a "Channel" just un-complicates things. There's no need to have a Television Infobox for each country, hence why you can insert flags for the proper country. [[User:Daniel Benfield|Daniel Benfield]] ([[User talk:Daniel Benfield|talk]]) 00:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

::Certainly, I should have said something about the fact that I was ''assuming'' the existence of differing infobox forms; my bad. However, there is a Wikipedia policy about nationality-based terminology (spelling, ''etc''.), which this, if it can't be changed, is in violation of. Furthermore, syndication simply is '''not''' a channel (BTW, no matter how many people refer to a defunct TV series being rerun on a cable channel as "seen in syndication" there, they are wrong; syndication is being sold to broadcast TV stations across the country on a one-market(city)-at-a-time basis). "Venue" would be a much better label for US programs. These things do need to be changed even if it requires very technical work in the server itself. --[[User:Tbrittreid|Tbrittreid]] ([[User talk:Tbrittreid|talk]]) 21:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:::Agreed on the disuse of British English; much disagreed on "venue". "syndication" not being a network is less problematic than using a word that is almost never used in this context (in fact, I've only heard it from you). "Network", "Aired" or "Broadcast" (even though cable isn't broadcast, yes) are all more preferable. [[User:Lambertman|Lambertman]] ([[User talk:Lambertman|talk]]) 21:54, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I use "venue" in this sense because I have indeed encountered it in various TV reference sources. Other than that one little point, thanks for the support. --[[User:Tbrittreid|Tbrittreid]] ([[User talk:Tbrittreid|talk]]) 22:04, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

==CBS winnings limit==
From the article as currently written: ''The CBS daytime version had returning champions and the show "straddled"&nbsp;– that was, episodes often began and ended with games in progress. On this version, champions could stay until they were defeated or won $25,000. Originally, this was the network's winnings limit; anything above that amount was forfeited, but the rule was later changed so that a champion retired after winning $25,000, but could keep up to $35,000. During the six-year run of ''Match Game'' on CBS, '''only one champion retired undefeated'''.'' (emphasis added). 

In other words, only one of these two things ever happened: Either someone retired undefeated before the rule change with exactly $25,000, or someone retired undefeated after the rule change with $25,000-$35,000. But not both. A rule that existed in theory but was never actually applied (which is the case with one or the other) doesn't need to be mentioned here, or at least not in anything like this level of detail. If a source can be found that states only one champion retired undefeated, can it be determined who it was and how much that person won, list it and leave it at that? ("On this version, champions could stay until they were defeated or reached the network's winnings limit. In the six years of the CBS version, only one player, X, retired undefeated with $xx,xxx.") And also, are we absolutely sure that there wasn't a five-match limit? [[User:JTRH|JTRH]] ([[User talk:JTRH|talk]]) 03:23, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Episode status ==

The episode status for the NBC version contradicts itself, saying one episode survives in color and then no episodes survive in color. Also, I have seen the color episode in question at the Paley Center -- it stars Tony Randall and Peggy Cass and it is color videotape, not kinescope. Not sure how someone would verify other than going there and watching, though. [[User:Banjochris|Banjochris]] ([[User talk:Banjochris|talk]]) 20:47, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
:We tend to be a lot more lenient about verifiability of things like "This episode is in the collection of the Paley Center" than "I saw it on GSN three weeks ago," or "This episode circulates among private collectors," neither of which can be verified. [[User:JTRH|JTRH]] ([[User talk:JTRH|talk]]) 00:24, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

== Revert and contradiction ==

The 17:00, 5 February 2015 changes by [[User:71.88.13.226]] introduced several instances of grammatical nonsense, in addition to poor wording, and also deleted many commas that had been correctly used in the original.  It could have been subtle vandalism, or a good faith edit by someone whose English could use improvement.  To avoid disturbing the intermediate edits, I did a manual revert.

As a result of this revert, in the section about the original 1960s version, the first and second paragraphs now (again) contradict each other about whether the scoring was 10 and 20 points (with goal 50), or 25 and 50 (with goal 100).  If this was something that changed during the show's original run, perhaps someone who knows the details can add the appropriate clarification.  [[User:Joule36e5|Joule36e5]] ([[User talk:Joule36e5|talk]]) 09:45, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

== 2016 edition and revival ==

Should the 2016 ABC Edition be added in on to this page as new section or should a new page be created for it? The format from the 2016 version from say the late 1970's version aren't that much different except that the Audience Match responses winnings were multiplied by 5 for a possible $25,000. ($5,000, $3,000, and $2,000) [[User:Retched|retched]] ([[User talk:Retched|talk]]) 08:04, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
:Keep it here and expand the [[Match Game#2016 version]] section. [[User:AldezD|AldezD]] ([[User talk:AldezD|talk]]) 12:00, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Okay second question, FremantleMedia was listed as a production company but going through the credits I do not see them listed at all. While, yes, they own the rights to Match Game's original broadcasts, the company that I see listed on the copyright line at the end of the credits is Triple Threat Productions, Inc. So I edited that in instead. Also after the copyright line there is a production card of "Entertain The Brutes" and "El Dorado Pictures" (which I think El Dorado is Alec Baldwin's company, so I have no clue how or where to edit that in.) Also for Producer, should all those listed as Executive Producer be listed or the one that appears first on the screen just after the host. Following the template from The $100,000 Pyramid, I should list all of them? [[User:Retched|retched]] ([[User talk:Retched|talk]]) 18:55, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

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== Rayburn "host" to "star" ==

During the 1974 season, Rayburn's introduction was changed from host to star. Other editors may discuss the matter here if desired. — [[user:Box73|''β''ox73]][[user talk:Box73| (৳alk)]] 13:34, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

{{to|AldezD}} It might be appropriate to move or revise the added sentence, but not to cut it. The change can be documented by online videos of the 1974 season. No cause was provided in the edit summary, though I should assume good faith, not ownership. Let's discuss the matter here. — [[user:Box73|''β''ox73]][[user talk:Box73| (৳alk)]] 13:55, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
:This is completely trivial. Daily scripting used by the announcer to introduce the host does not belong in the article. [[User:AldezD|AldezD]] ([[User talk:AldezD|talk]]) 14:46, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
::{{reply to|AldezD}} I disagree. It is not trivial evidenced by the first sentence quoting that very scripting "all-new, star-studded, big-money". So is calling the show by the year: Match Game 73 as this was never used excepting during the introduction and close of the show. I would like to hear from other editors whether these, including mine, belong. — [[user:Box73|''β''ox73]][[user talk:Box73| (৳alk)]] 19:16, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
::Moreover, elevating Rayburn from "host" to "star" doesn't sound insignificant or trivial to me. Otherwise why was the scripting altered? ''We can agree that a consensus or outside opinion is appropriate here.'' — [[user:Box73|''β''ox73]][[user talk:Box73| (৳alk)]] 19:42, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
:::This is merely a change in script. It's insignificant and trivial. You can only speculate about why the scripting was changed (or even if this was an "elevation" in your words vs. a change of one word in an announcer's daily script) unless you have a WP:V source that shows this coincided with something else more significant, such as a pay raise, elevation to producer status, etc. 
:::If you want to hear from others, submit a WP:3O request. [[User:AldezD|AldezD]] ([[User talk:AldezD|talk]]) 20:12, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
::::I agree with AldezD. It's trivial - and how can it be verified exactly when the change was made? [[User:JTRH|JTRH]] ([[User talk:JTRH|talk]]) 00:55, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
:::::{{reply to|JTRH}} Thank you my friend...
:::::'''Verification of when.''' I provided a citation for episode #120, the first show broadcast in 1974, "And now the host of Match Game 74, Gene Rayburn"; I also cited episode #271 taped in July 1974, "And now the star of Match Game 74, Gene Rayburn". (Update  Episode #181, March 74 uses "host", so between March and July.) The Match Game broadcasts are certainly a reliable source, and they document the change. The entire citations were removed by AldezD over copyright concerns, the shows posted at YouTube. Normally, [[Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater|a citation can be preserved, and the URL to questionable material removed]], as URLs aren't required. However, I'm checking the copyright permission status presently.
:::::'''Trivial.''' If trivial, it's ''not'' unimportant or insignificant. This script opened ''every show'' and starting in 1974 it announced Rayburn as the ''Star'', just as the panelists were referred to as stars twice in the same opening. I don't know the cause. His biographer told me Rayburn probably demanded it. The matter is significant in itself. And it can easily be integrated it into another sentence [[WP:HTRIV]] where it would read well.
:::::'''{{to|AldezD}}''' Your Match Game article is badly in need of citations. You should consider doing it: You're good and know exactly what you'll accept. I'll finish the current issue and move on. — [[user:Box73|''β''ox73]][[user talk:Box73| (৳alk)]] 14:19, 4 April 2018 (UTC) corrected [[user:Box73|''β''ox73]][[user talk:Box73| (৳alk)]] 14:24, 4 April 2018 (UTC) fix [[user:Box73|''β''ox73]][[user talk:Box73| (৳alk)]] 14:27, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
::::::You "asking his biographer" for info is not WP:V. This does not account for shows between 181 and 271, so you can't pinpoint exactly when it happened, nor do you know the reason why. This is nothing more than an insignificant trivial reference to a word in an announcer's script. It does not belong in the article. [[User:AldezD|AldezD]] ([[User talk:AldezD|talk]]) 14:49, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
{{outdent|::::::}}Thanks for your response...
# Asking the biographer for info might have garnered a response like, "it happened because of x, as I said on page 85 of my book." Then I could get the book, read it, likely cite it, and it would satisfy WP:V. But his given response wasn't WP:V and I didn't use it in the article, rather I simply mentioned it in a discussion on the talk page. 
# (Episode update #245 = "host" / #271 = "star") Episode 245 was VTR: June 14 1974; episode #274 was VTR: July 22, 1974. So the change occurred in VTR: June-July 1974. It might not be possible to date it exactly because [[Match Game#Reruns|some of the tapes were damaged]], further, the air date was necessarily later than the VTR (video taping) date. I don't know the exact lag except that it exceeded 14 days due to the biweekly taping schedule. ''But the precise date isn't critical.''
# Let's not talk about one word but about the entire opening script. This script was significant to the producers who included it in ''every'' episode, and it is reasonably significant to many readers. The tweak should be subtle and need only appear as "host/star" or it can be handled succinctly inline or in a footnote:
#* Get ready to match the stars: <insert celebrities names> as we play the star-studded, big money Match Game 75! <br />And now here's the host/star of Match Game 75, Gene Rayburn!  <small>(''or'')</small>
#* Get ready to match the stars: ___, ___, ___, ___, ___, and ___, as we play the star-studded, big money Match Game 75! <br />And now here's the host ("star" beginning mid-1974) of Match Game 75, Gene Rayburn! {{fontcolor|firebrick|<small>←"75" used here and above is arbitrary</small>}}
# If the specific CBS Studio where shows were taped isn't trivial neither should 12 episodes being taped over two consecutive days biweekly: 
#* Six episodes were taped on each of two consecutive days, accommodating Rayburn, who would fly from his Cape Cod residence to Los Angeles once every two weeks,<ref group="star" name="Clepper 1978">{{Cite news|url=https://www.newspapers.com/clip/19002843/austin_americanstatesman/|title='Match Game' host airs his opinions|last=Clepper|first=P. M.|date=February 28, 1978|work=Austin American-Statesman|access-date=April 6, 2018|archive-url=|archive-date=|dead-url=|agency=Knights News Service|at=Show World TV listings p. 19|subscription=y|via=Newspapers.com}} {{free access}}</ref><ref group="star">{{Cite news|url=https://www.newspapers.com/clip/19002654/the_baltimore_sun/|title=Rayburn feels typecast|last=Lewis|first=Dan|date=August 19, 1973|work=The Baltimore Sun|access-date=April 6, 2018|archive-url=|archive-date=|dead-url=|at=TV Week p. 2|subscription=y|via=Newspapers.com}} {{free access}}</ref><s> as he did weekly hosting [[Amateur's Guide to Love|The Amateur's Guide to Love]].</s><ref group="star">{{Cite news|url=https://www.newspapers.com/clip/19002546/grand_prairie_daily_news/|title=Gene Rayburn commutes 3000 miles to work|last=|first=|date=December 11, 1972|work=Grand Prairie Daily News|access-date=April 6, 2018|archive-url=|archive-date=|dead-url=|agency=United Press International|page=6|subscription=y|via=Newspapers.com}} {{free access}}</ref> The six included five daily shows and one evening version which aired each week.<ref group="star" name="Clepper 1978" />
# '''Otherwise''', in the Unsold pilots/1987 section, the second sentence seems to have grammatical problems. — [[user:Box73|''β''ox73]][[user talk:Box73| (৳alk)]] 05:05, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
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The other issues aside, specific to using the word "star" and #2 above, you have no WP:V source for VTR dates. Again, this still does not pinpoint the date it changed, nor the reason. This is insignificant text in an announcer's script. Referencing this script change does not belong in the article. [[User:AldezD|AldezD]] ([[User talk:AldezD|talk]]) 15:19, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

====References linked above====
{{reflist|group=star}}

== International versions ==

Since it seems there is an edit war regarding the unref'd table of international versions, I am moving it to the talk page. I feel that this is a more reasonable solution that deleting it outright because it will give those who are interested time to work on adding the refs if so desired.

{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:98%;"
|-
! Country !! Local Name !! Host !! Channel !! Year Aired
|-
|rowspan=3 |{{flag|Australia}}
| ''Match Game''
| Michael McCarthy
|rowspan=2 |[[Network Ten]]
| 1960s
|-
| ''[[Blankety Blanks (Australian game show)|Graham Kennedy's Blankety Blanks]]''
| [[Graham Kennedy]]
| 1977–81
|-
| ''Blankety Blanks''
| [[Daryl Somers]]<br>[[Shane Bourne]]
| [[Nine Network]]
| 1985–86<br>1996–97
|-
| {{flag|Canada}} {{In lang|en}}
| ''Match Game''
| [[Darrin Rose]]
| [[The Comedy Network]]
| 2012–present
|-
|rowspan=2 |{{flag|Canada}} {{In lang|fr}}
| ''L'union fait la farce''
| [[:fr:Serge Bélair|Serge Bélair]]<br>Raymond Lemay
| [[TVA (Canada)|TVA]]
| 1976–78
|-
| ''Atomes Crochus''
| [[:fr:Alexandre Barrette|Alexandre Barrette]]
| [[V (TV network)|V]]
| 2010–present
|-
| {{flag|France}}
| ''[[:fr:Les Bons génies|Les Bons Génies]]''
| [[Patrice Laffont]]
| [[France 2]]
| 1996
|-
|rowspan=2 |{{flag|Germany}}
| ''[[:de:Schnickschnack|Schnickschnack]]''
| [[:de:Klaus Wildbolz|Klaus Wildbolz]]
| [[ARD (broadcaster)|ARD]]
| 1975–77
|-
| ''Punkt, Punkt, Punkt''
| [[:de:Mike Krüger|Mike Krüger]]
| [[ARD (broadcaster)|ARD]] (1991)<br>[[Sat.1]] (1992–94)
| 1991–94
|-
| {{flag|Indonesia}}
| ''Match Game Indonesia''
| [[:id:Arie Untung|Arie Untung]]
| [[GTV (Indonesia)|GTV]]
| 2018
|-
| {{flag|Japan}}
| ''[[:ja:アイ・アイゲーム|Ai ai gêmu]]'' 
| [[Shingo Yamashiro]]
| [[Fuji TV]]
| 1979–85
|-
| {{flag|Mexico}}
| ''Espacio en Blanco''
| [[:es:Mauricio Barcelata|Mauricio Barcelata]]
| [[Televisa]]
| 2006
|-
|rowspan=3 |{{flag|United Kingdom}}
| ''[[Blankety Blank]]''
| [[Terry Wogan]]<br>[[Les Dawson]]<br>[[Lily Savage]]
| [[BBC1]]
| 1979–83<br>1984–90<br>1997–99
|-
| ''Lily Savage's Blankety Blank''
| [[Lily Savage]]
| rowspan=2|[[ITV (TV channel)|ITV]]
| 2001–02
|-
| ''Blankety Blank''
| [[David Walliams]]
| 2016
|-
| {{flag|Vietnam}}
| ''Siêu sao Đoán Chữ''
| [[:es:Đại Nghĩa|Đại Nghĩa]]
| [[Ho Chi Minh City Television|HTV7]]
| April 3, 2017 – June 19, 2017
|-
|}
<!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bcschneider53|Bcschneider53]] ([[User talk:Bcschneider53#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bcschneider53|contribs]]) 10:52, 17 April 2018 (UTC)</small>
:There's no edit war. Others are continuing to disruptively re-add unreferenced material that does not meet [[WP:V]]. It has been tagged as unref'd since 2014 and hasn't been worked on or improved in four years. It does not belong in the article without accompanying WP:V sources. [[User:AldezD|AldezD]] ([[User talk:AldezD|talk]]) 15:12, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
::{{ping|AldezD}} Thank you for signing my post for me (how embarrassing of me to forget!). I think this section is relevant and ideally, since this is not [[Match Game (U.S. game show)]], would be included, but I agree that we need references before reinstating it, hence why I moved it here. My apologies if I came off as accusing you of warring with others; I was mainly referring to those who continue to re-add it without references. --[[User:Bcschneider53|Bcschneider53]] ([[User talk:Bcschneider53|talk]]) 22:11, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
== "Match Game (Home Game)" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect [[:Match Game (Home Game)]] and has thus listed it [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|for discussion]]. This discussion will occur at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 14#Match Game (Home Game)]] until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> [[User:AldezD|AldezD]] ([[User talk:AldezD|talk]]) 03:02, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

== Insufficient information about 1960’s rules and gameplay  ==

The section on the 1960’s iteration of the show does not clearly describe how it was played. We are told up front that there were two celebrity panelists, but their role in gameplay is not described at all. We are told there were two teams of apparently three players, but the description of the maximum prize money suggests nine members on a team. There is detail about how team members score points in collaboration, but again nothing at all about the role of the celebrities. Did they do shtick during pauses in the game? Offer advice when asked? Just look pretty before cutting to commercials? The section needs rewriting (don’t make your readers guess about details if you know what they are) and expansion. [[Special:Contributions/2603:9001:4500:1C09:20B7:8BD4:971D:1F73|2603:9001:4500:1C09:20B7:8BD4:971D:1F73]] ([[User talk:2603:9001:4500:1C09:20B7:8BD4:971D:1F73|talk]]) 12:55, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

== Swingin' Safari ==

You got the versions reversed. The Billy Vaughn version (which was also the hit single version) was used on the pilot, Bert Kampfaert's version thereafter. Souce: I was a radio DJ for almost 40 years...I know these records like the back of my hand, [[Special:Contributions/2600:4040:5D3F:9A00:FCA3:995:C0B1:DB30|2600:4040:5D3F:9A00:FCA3:995:C0B1:DB30]] ([[User talk:2600:4040:5D3F:9A00:FCA3:995:C0B1:DB30|talk]]) 00:40, 29 April 2025 (UTC)