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Okay--in use from the 13th Century or introduced during the 19th Century?  I moved this as part of a cleanup; not my area of expertise.  [[User:Quill|Quill]] 22:02, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

When these paragraphs were part of the [[Master]] article I questioned the implication that midshipman was the route to higher rank for the sons of privileged families while ''master's mate'' was the route for less privileged men.  I argued that this is the impression one would get through some nautical fiction.  But I question whether that is an authoritative enough source to be included on the main page of a wikipedia article.  

My recent contribution to the '''Master Mariner''' article was a paragraph where I talked about the Master's role as a standing officer.  I suspect that the [[naval rating|rate]] of ''master's mate'' was one that could be awarded or withdrawn at the discretion of a ship's captain.  I don't know that from an authoritative enough source for inclusion.

Master's mate was a more senior rate than midshipman.  And it is my understanding that even a son of privilege was likely to pass through that rank while on his way to Lieutenant. [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] 16:39, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

==Merge suggsted==
I feel pretty confident that merging this page with [[Captain (nautical)]] makes sense.  Any thoughts? [[User:Haus42|Haus42]] 01:35, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

==Merge completed==
I completed the merge as per [[Talk:Captain (nautical)]] without getting rid of much material at all. [[User:Haus42|Haus42]] 22:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)