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== Main picture ==

Can someone affix a recent picture of Mr Garrett to the front page? Thank you.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/121.218.133.125|121.218.133.125]] ([[User talk:121.218.133.125|talk]]) 06:50, 11 August 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Money==
How much money does he have?  Did he have 7 million to give to his best friend in that lawsuit or anything close to it?  Is he penniless?  --[[Special:Contributions/24.177.0.156|24.177.0.156]] ([[User talk:24.177.0.156|talk]]) 23:10, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

== Famous? ==
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Was this guy actually famous? I've never heard of him! ([[Special:Contributions/92.11.204.130|92.11.204.130]] ([[User talk:92.11.204.130|talk]]) 15:30, 3 January 2014 (UTC))

Of course he was/is famous!  --[[Special:Contributions/24.177.0.156|24.177.0.156]] ([[User talk:24.177.0.156|talk]]) 23:10, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
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==Legal trouble==

There are issues with at least one of the references used in this section; the AOL url does not direct to any text. Given [[:WP:BLP]] policies I am removing the text that cites the AOL source until this is resolved. [[User:Pjefts|Pjefts]] ([[User talk:Pjefts|talk]]) 14:45, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
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:The lawsuit should be mentioned as it did a lot of damage to his career in the early 1980s, along with the negative publicity resulting from the car crash. ([[Special:Contributions/217.35.237.246|217.35.237.246]] ([[User talk:217.35.237.246|talk]]) 16:57, 12 April 2016 (UTC))

::The issue is that there are currently no [[:WP:RS]] sources for the material. Please feel free to find some and add the text back in and please keep in mind that BLPs require extra care. [[User:Pjefts|Pjefts]] ([[User talk:Pjefts|talk]]) 17:25, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

:::Can the allegations that he was a prostitute be mentioned? ([[Special:Contributions/217.35.237.246|217.35.237.246]] ([[User talk:217.35.237.246|talk]]) 17:52, 12 April 2016 (UTC))
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== Picture ==
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Wouldn't an older picture be better? ([[Special:Contributions/2A00:23C4:638F:5000:148:F717:350:4352|2A00:23C4:638F:5000:148:F717:350:4352]] ([[User talk:2A00:23C4:638F:5000:148:F717:350:4352|talk]]) 14:06, 16 February 2017 (UTC))
:I included this one as it has the appropriate licence. [[User:Karst|Karst]] ([[User talk:Karst|talk]]) 15:05, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
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==Years of disruption from banned editor==
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== Concern about precision in Legal trouble section ==

The section on Garrett's 1979 car accident said "His blood alcohol level was three times over today's legal limit", and is directly cited to [http://tucsoncitizen.com/morgue2/1999/01/14/213430-calendar/ this story], originally published in 1999, which says "Garrett, whose blood-alcohol level was three times today’s legal limit..." {{reply to|True Pagan Warrior}} changed this to sentence to read "His blood alcohol level was three times over ''the legal limit of that time and place''" (emphasis mine), which contradicts the source. Presumably there is a reason why the article published in 1999 specified this in then-current terms, instead of merely saying "three times over the limit". I reverted this for that very reason, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leif_Garrett&oldid=prev&diff=1158981971 was today reverted] by the same editor was says in their edit summary "this is not a direct quote, and use of "today's" outside of a direct quote avoids having to keep this tagged for a lack of precision in the phrasing". I'm unclear on the relevance of a "direct quote" when confirming the statement here or what is meant by "having to keep this tagged" (no tag exists), but changing the meaning of the sentence to something not supported by the source is not an improvement. One can surmise that an article published in 1999 using "today" means the definition of the legal limit in 1999, and not 1979, which would be the "time" in "that time and place". While not ideal, I suppose the most accurate reading of this would be "three times over the limit by 1999 standards", which is admittedly clunky, so if you have a more precise source to use here that describes his intoxication level in a meaningful way by all means do so. [[User:Echoedmyron|Echoedmyron]] ([[User talk:Echoedmyron|talk]]) 21:58, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

:I misread the 1999 as 1979.  Sorry about that.  Nevertheless, "three time's today's legal limit" refers to the limit in 1999.  We should not expect readers to have the 1999 blood alcohol content limit immediately come to mind.  I suggest dropping the "three times" language entirely, since the limit in 1999 is irrelevant.  Instead, add a source that notes what the limit was at the time of crash, which ''is'' relevant. '''~[[User:True Pagan Warrior|T]][[User talk:True Pagan Warrior|P]][[Special:Contributions/True Pagan Warrior|W]]''' 15:42, 8 June 2023 (UTC)