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I added sources to the lead section that were missing sources. [[User:Radtkejk|Radtkejk]] ([[User talk:Radtkejk|talk]]) 15:58, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

I added to the physical therapy section. [[User:Radtkejk|Radtkejk]] ([[User talk:Radtkejk|talk]]) 15:57, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

I updated the mechanism section. [[User:Radtkejk|Radtkejk]] ([[User talk:Radtkejk|talk]]) 15:56, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

I added to the signs and symptoms to further expand this section. [[User:Radtkejk|Radtkejk]] ([[User talk:Radtkejk|talk]]) 15:55, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

I added am epidemiology section to the article, which allowed for better organization of the article. [[User:Radtkejk|Radtkejk]] ([[User talk:Radtkejk|talk]]) 15:48, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

I am looking to add an epidemiology section to this page. I believe that this will give the article more structure. [[User:Radtkejk|Radtkejk]] ([[User talk:Radtkejk|talk]]) 17:07, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

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Prochlorperazine has been re-added, it is the most common treatment.  Plus hearing loss is very rare, thought it best to put it into context! --[[User:PopUpPirate|PopUpPirate]] 19:34, Jan 29, 2005 (UTC)

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To the person who removed the line about residual symptoms lasting months or years, you haven't a clue. Just read what people are going through on the healthboards or the dizzy lounge. It can and DOES stick around for a long time for many. this is a load of rubbish 


I agree it can stick around for a very long time, two years for me and still counting. It was good to read about a definate link between vestibular disorders and anxiety. Not enough is written about this side of the illness and its such a major part of it. Dizzy Lounge Member.

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Regarding the sub-head 'Labyrinthitis and Vertigo' - I have had a big problem with dizziness for the last 10 months, so I've been corrected in my terminology by several doctors. Under this heading there is the phrase 'dysequilibrium and/or dizziness'. Dysequilibrium IS 'dizziness', and 'vertigo' is the sensation of the room spinning. Contrary to popular belief (& Hollywood movies), 'vertigo' & 'dizziness' are not interchangeable terms. Can someone with ear/nose/throat expertise fix this article? I would do it myself, but I didn't have labyrinthitis, so I can't remember which of the two is accurate in describing this disorder. [[User:Wbm|wbm]] 21:37, 8 May 2006 (UTC)


Dysequilibrium is not dizziness. Dysequilibrium is the sensation that your are being pulled to the left or the right, particularly when walking. This occurs in healthy individuals who are intoxicated with alcohol.

Chronic Labyrinthitis is not even mentioned on this info page, and I know it exists because my late mother was diagnosed with the inner-ear condition by a doctor decades ago (for which she was required to take medicine to control her severe vertigo), and I seem to have inherited her ailment, though not as severe unless I eat something very salty and then drink too much water (that then throws off my "normal" inner ear water balance. However, I also am occasionally subject to sudden dizzy spells that quickly pass after a few seconds. Gail Noon, San Pedro, CA 01/20/2014 ([[User:Coastalwestgirl|Coastalwestgirl]] ([[User talk:Coastalwestgirl|talk]]) 20:45, 20 January 2014 (UTC))



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== Treatments ==
Jumping up and down to "remove debris" is not a treatment for labyrinthitis. Ear debris or "ear rocks" is BPPV. BPPV treatment requires the Epley or Modified Epley Procedure.

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The line about chinese medicine and accuuncture - does anyone see the point? If it doesn't work (and it doesn't work) and you admit that there's no evidence, then why mention it? It's like saying, "tying balloons to your feet might help, but actually it doesn't". Not that I have an agenda or anything. [[User:Moopet|Moopet]] 07:50, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

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"Some evidence suggests that viral labyrinthitis should be treated in its early stages with corticosteroids such as prednisone, and possibly antiviral medication such as Valtrex and that this treatment should be undertaken as soon as possible to prevent permanent damage to the inner ear."

Can I get a source for this info?  [[Special:Contributions/99.141.86.68|99.141.86.68]] ([[User talk:99.141.86.68|talk]]) 18:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


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The links section contains a link (My personal battle with Labyrinthitis How Ryan Roper overcame the condition) which takes you to a site run by Sledghammer Computers designed to look like Wikipedia. On this site you can log in and Wikipedia users may be fooled into inputing their own user names and passwords. Is this within Wikipedia's rules?

: I think it's just another site running the MediaWiki software, it's not pretending to be wikipedia. [[User:Pseudomonas|Pseudomonas]]<sub>([[User talk:Pseudomonas|talk]])</sub> 16:15, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

== audiitory symptoms ==


This article fails to include auditory symptoms.  Auditory symptoms apparently differentiate the condition from vestibular neuritis so it is important to mention both.
http://vestibular.org/labyrinthitis-and-vestibular-neuritis
[[User:Whitis|Whitis]] ([[User talk:Whitis|talk]]) 07:39, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

I think it is concerning that Labyrinthitis & Vestibular Neuronitis have been categorized together in the same wikipedia article. Commonly; they are distinguished by a preservation of hearing in vestibular neuronitis; whereas in labyrinthitis (affects whole labyrinth), there are usually hearing changes, eg deafness or tinitus. Classically, VN does not effect hearing and instead pathophysiologically is due to 1) vestibular nerve pathology OR 2) vestibular apparatus pathology or 3) Both. Does anyone have any input; should a new page to separate the two be created?  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Wes 932|Wes 932]] ([[User talk:Wes 932|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Wes 932|contribs]]) 04:58, 13 May 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

I agree message me Wes 932  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Deeplymadlybelow|Deeplymadlybelow]] ([[User talk:Deeplymadlybelow|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Deeplymadlybelow|contribs]]) 07:18, 10 June 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== viral & bacterial vs viral | bacterial ==

The sentence “Both bacterial and viral labyrinthitis can cause permanent hearing loss in rare cases.” has been in the introduction for over a decade. The assertion is quite reasonable, so although I am not even a physician let alone an expert in the field, I believe it. But I have two concerns about this sentence.
# I would put money that '''either''' bacterial '''or''' viral labyrinthitis alone can, in rare cases, cause permanent hearing loss. The sentence as written implies that having ''both'' bacterial ''and'' viral labyrinthitis (simultaneously, I presume) can cause permanent hearing loss.
# I’ve skimmed through the cited work, and it does not really support the assertion, at least not very well.

[[User:Sbauman|Sbauman]] ([[User talk:Sbauman|talk]]) 19:53, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
::There is a ref in the lead and I have adjusted. [[User:Doc James|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Doc James|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Doc James|email]]) 20:04, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

== Split into New Article, Vestibular neuritis ==
{{Discussion top|result=The result of this discussion was to '''split'''. As the only dissenting voice I'm gonna retract my statement and close this as resolved. Cheers. [[User:Draken Bowser|Draken Bowser]] ([[User talk:Draken Bowser|talk]]) 20:15, 11 April 2024 (UTC)}}
Is it worth splitting this into a new article entitled 'Vestibular neuritis'? (This proposal has come up previously in a very unofficial way but was not resolved.) As far as I understand it, VN (also known as vestibular neuronitis) and labyrinthitis are closely associated infections of the inner ear, but they relate to different sites (the vestibular nerve and the labyrinth) and can cause different symptoms (labyrinthitis tending to affect the hearing). [[User:MasterOfHisOwnDomain|MasterOfHisOwnDomain]] ([[User talk:MasterOfHisOwnDomain|talk]]) 15:53, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
*'''Support''' although these topics are similar, it's my understanding also these are not entirely the same. Having them in the same article is confusing for readers and I agree it's better to cover them independently. --[[User:Tom (LT)|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:Tom (LT)|talk]]) 05:59, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
*<s>'''Move''' to [[vestibular neuritis]], as labyrinthithis can be considered a variant or subset of the disease: "Hearing is normal in vestibular neuritis. When hearing loss is associated, the condition is known as acute labyrinthitis." [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24439886/ Wipperman (2014)]  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Draken Bowser|Draken Bowser]] ([[User talk:Draken Bowser#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Draken Bowser|contribs]]) 07:40, 26 August 2022 (UTC)</span></s> [[User:Draken Bowser|Draken Bowser]] ([[User talk:Draken Bowser|talk]]) 20:15, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
*'''Support''' In my experience "labyrinthitis" most commonly refers to a complication of [[acute otitis media]] and "vestibular neuritis" to the condition characterized by acute-onset [[vertigo]], [[nystagmus]] obeying [[Alexander's law]], and unilateral loss of the [[vestibulo–ocular reflex]]. Of these two, "vestibular neuritis" is the more commonly referred to, so if we split the page we'll probably have to check all the incoming links and fix a fairly large percentage of them. [[User:TompaDompa|TompaDompa]] ([[User talk:TompaDompa|talk]]) 22:42, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
*'''support''' per TompaDompa--[[User:Ozzie10aaaa|Ozzie10aaaa]] ([[User talk:Ozzie10aaaa|talk]]) 13:07, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
*'''support''' ICD-11 classifies both as different conditions within a wider "Acute vestibular syndrome" category: {{ICD11|AB30.0}} {{ICD11|AB30.1}}. [[User:Little pob|Little pob]] ([[User talk:Little pob|talk]]) 17:28, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. This doesn't make any sense to me. [[User:DrVogel|Dr. Vogel]] ([[User talk:DrVogel|talk]]) 00:30, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. Two subjects in the other languages wikipedia's. A split is needed. A reader may think this article about Labyrinthitis, but parts are about VN. We need an article about VN. Also Viral infection is mostly the cause of VN and  bacterial infection for labyrinithitis.  [[User:Carsrac|Carsrac]] ([[User talk:Carsrac|talk]]) 15:25, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
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==  Epidemiology ==

{{tq|Labyrinthitis affects approximately 35 million people per year (approximately 3.5 cases per 100,000 people).}} -- I don't understand those numbers. A rate of 3.5 cases per 100,000 people, at a global population of 8 billion, would mean 280,000 cases, not 35 million. The source [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3987789/] only supports the case rate ("Vestibular neuritis has an incidence of approximately 3.5 cases per 100,000 people"). Is the other number [[WP:OR]]? [[User:Renerpho|Renerpho]] ([[User talk:Renerpho|talk]]) 19:08, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

fluid inner ear [[Special:Contributions/122.161.241.242|122.161.241.242]] ([[User talk:122.161.241.242|talk]]) 05:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)