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==Kudzu as compost==
In the book [[How to Grow World Record Tomatoes]] by Charles H. Wilber, he states that kudzu is rich in minerals with a 26% protein content. He also goes on to say that it improves the harshest clay soils by making them into "rich crumbly, brown soil." It also helps a soil breathe by carrying nitrogen and oxygen down into the soil and thus bringing the lime complex of the soil up. (pg. 26) He uses both shredded green kudzu and hay consisting of kudzu in great quantities in his compost. (pg. 27) His results have been amazing, i.e. world record tomatoes (27 foot tall cherry tomato plants and in 1987 1,368 lb tomatoes on 4 plants.).
I find this information very interesting and would like to add at least some of it to the page. What do you all think?[[User:Saritamackita|Saritamackita]] 21:55, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

* The upside of kudzu is that if you use it as compost, you keep getting more and more compost without having to do anything. [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] 19:48, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
** Yeah, I think that is true. So, should I put it in the article?[[User:Saritamackita|Saritamackita]] 21:55, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
*** Do what you think is best. Just don't use my comment as a citation. :) [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] 00:25, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

==Units of measurement==
IP: I see what you mean about the metric units ([[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)]]) so I won't revert your changes, it's just I don't like it that you call it euro imperialism when I'm American. [[User:Wikiacc|Wikiacc]] 14:36, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== Kudzu as a pest ==
Is kudzu a pest in Japan? A paragraph of analysis would be a good addition to the article.

Another good addition to the article would be a photo of kudzu gone wild, with a human in the picture, or a car or something else that demonstrates scale. The current picture would be good if something were in it that would let us judge the size of what we're looking at. [[User:Tempshill|Tempshill]] 23:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
:I take it you've never been down South before.
::128.6.175.77, First off, please sign your comments by placing four tildes in a row, second, please don't make such offensive comments, whether he has been south or not is irrelevant, what matters is whether or not wikipedia should contain a photo as he says. [[User:Pidey|Pidey]] 01:06, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Kudzu is less of a "pest" in Japan because of the cold weather. This helps hamper the growth. In addition, there are several insects and fungus native to Japan that keep them under control (these are non-native to the US). For the most part, Japan is closer to the climate of Pennsylvania then Alabama. And for the person that asked for a photograph showing scale, I will try and take one this next week. I know of some large construction equipment (as well as 2 travel trailers) that are covered in the stuff just a few miles from where I live. [[User:Mushrom|Mushrom]] 20:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

::Kudzu is not a pest in Japan. It is a welcome seasonal plant much treasured by the Japanese for it's beauty. As mentioned above, there are native pests that act as controls, and it dies off during the winter. The Japanese have long made a ramie like cloth from Kudzu. Kuzu fabric is highly resistant to moisture and pests. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/131.215.115.31|131.215.115.31]] ([[User talk:131.215.115.31|talk]]) 16:44, 10 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Perhaps this is apocryphal, but I heard on an episode of Good Eats, as told by the Nutritional Anthropologist, I believe, that Kudzu was introduced at an early 20th century Worlds Fair at the Japan pavillion, and that people liked it so much they took snippets for their gardens, and thats where the infestation began. It seems more likely than it being imported to use as camoflage, when there have been foliage looking camo nets in use to cover equipment for a long time. --[[User:X 0|X 0]] ([[User talk:X 0|talk]]) 03:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

== Potential ambiguity problem ==
Since an article about the Kudzu [[Kudzu (comic strip)|comic strip]] already exists here, a disambiguation page might be useful. [[User:ISNorden|ISNorden]] 23:17, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Ambiguity redux ==
On the talk page for the "Disambig" template, I have asked permission to move this article to "Kudzu (plant)". The "What links here" list, though, looks so long that a new location would disrupt the whole Wiki. Would an "other uses" note be enough to clarify the situation without breaking links? --[[User:ISNorden|Ingeborg S. Nordén]] 15:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

:Okay, for one thing, [[Template talk:Disambig]] was the wrong place to ask this question. That page is for discussing the {{tl|Disambig}} template. For another thing, it doesn't matter that a lot of pages link here, it can still be moved, that's what redirect pages are for. But finally, why do you think it should be moved in the first place? The only other meaning I can find is [[Kudzu (comic strip)]], and the plant definitely gets priority because it's the original and most common meaning. —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] 16:45, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, that's the only other use of the word that I know of. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<span style="color:darkblue;">日本穣</span>]]<sup>[[Help:Japanese|?]] · <small>[[User talk:Nihonjoe|<span style="color:blue;">Talk</span>]] <span style="color:darkblue;">to</span> [[User:Nihonjoe|Nihon]][[WP:JA|j]]o[[Wikipedia:Esperanza|'''<span style="color:darkgreen;">e</span>''']]</small></sup> 17:36, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Thank you, Nihonjoe; you beat me to that edit. Sorry to ask on the wrong page to begin with; I'm relatively new here and sometimes get confused about which template to use when. :-) --[[User:ISNorden|Ingeborg S. Nordén]] 22:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
::::No problem. If you have any other questions, feel free to post them on my [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk page]]. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<span style="color:darkblue;">日本穣</span>]]<sup>[[Help:Japanese|?]] · <small>[[User talk:Nihonjoe|<span style="color:blue;">Talk</span>]] <span style="color:darkblue;">to</span> [[User:Nihonjoe|Nihon]][[WP:JA|j]]o[[Wikipedia:Esperanza|'''<span style="color:darkgreen;">e</span>''']]</small></sup> 22:33, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

::::I just reread my comment and now it seems really harsh. I need to remember not to [[WP:BITE|bite the newbies]]. Sorry! —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] 22:39, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

== KUDZU question/use ==
I have a question about KUDZU. What is the sugar/carbohydrate content? How does that compare with corn? The reason for this question is simple if the sugar content is high enough it can be used for ethanol production! Could it be that I have stumbled on a viable use for this pest at last?[[User:65.4.163.122|65.4.163.122]] 23:23, 24 December 2006 (UTC) Alan Radford alanlradford@gmail.com

I had heard years ago that a scientist somewhere had figured out how to make a fuel out of kudzu. However, this was somewhere on the order of 10-15 years ago and I can't remember who. I'm wondering why there's so little attention to its viability, though, considering its growth-rate.

:There are occasional reports of people investigating the conversion of kudzu into ethanol. An NPR report aired on February 2007 about a high school student who did this as a science fair project. An [http://www.tallahassee.com/assets/wma/CD58979126.WMA audio report] and [http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=CD&Date=20070126&Category=PHOTOS03&ArtNo=701260802&Ref=PH&Params=Itemnr=6 photographs] are available. However, although kudzu grows fast, the amount of biomass per acre is not all that great: On flat ground, there isn't much plant material under all that green foliage. Kudzu is all surface area (to collect sunlight), but not much volume (compared with corn). [[User:KudzuLou|Lou]] 18:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

== Kudzu Control and Elimination ==
I've revised the [[kudzu]] article to remove the statement that it has rhizomes (underground stems), because it does not. All kudzu vines grow from crowns located above ground. I've also made clear that it is not necessary to dig up kudzu roots to kill the plant. It is only necessary to remove the crown, which is done very easily by hand with a pruning saw. A photograph illustrates this method. More details on this and other methods for controling or eliminating kudzu without using chemicals can be found at [http://www.kokudzu.com/ KOKudzu.com], where I am webmaster. This is the website of the all-volunteer organization '''The Coalition to Control Kudzu Without Chemicals''' located in Spartanburg, South Carolina. [[User:KudzuLou|Lou]] 18:50, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
:Very nice to see someone knowledgeable paying attention to this part of the page. Do include [[WP:RS|references]] to the Fire Effects Information System, journal articles, and other sources, rather than just your own website, as feasible. That's especially true if other (uninformed) sources say something to the contrary, like about the rhizomes. But like I said, thanks for improving this article. [[User:Kingdon|Kingdon]] 12:44, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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Also in the control section under herbicide, there is some questionable advice suggesting grazing kudzu might be combined with herbicide application.  This is troubling since it also specifies multiple applications of herbicide are often necessary, giving the impression it might be okay to graze animals on herbicide sprayed areas. 
The section is concluded with a eyebrow raising quote "...Herbicides which have been proven to be effective to control kudzu are claimed to be "rather safe to humans, but generally lethal on most plants."..."  The link does not bring up any article or research that contains or supports the quoted claim.
Herbicide producers have been trying to push the idea that herbicides are only dangerous to targeted plants for a long time.  It is absolutely not generally true and is certainly not specifically true in most cases.  Wikipedia should not be furthering this type of propaganda.
[[Special:Contributions/70.171.47.39|70.171.47.39]] ([[User talk:70.171.47.39|talk]]) 04:51, 23 June 2014 (UTC)BGriffin
:Yes, "rather safe to humans" isn't good enough, but in any case the citation was a broken link and I've removed it. I suspect the "combined with" other methods such as grazing was simply bad writing, when "used after" is what the text should have said. [[User:Sminthopsis84|Sminthopsis84]] ([[User talk:Sminthopsis84|talk]]) 10:54, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

== Conversions ==
Regarding [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kudzu&diff=141593649&oldid=141555741 this edit]. Per Google's calculator -
* 20–30 m = 66-98
** 20m=65.6167979 feet approx 66 [http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GZEZ_en-GBIN227IN227&q=20+metres+in+feet&meta=]
** 30 meters = 98.4251969 feet approx 98[http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GZEZ_en-GBIN227IN227&q=30+metres+in+feet&meta=]
* 10–20 cm = 4-8 in
** 10 centimeters = 3.93700787 inches approx 4 [http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GZEZ_en-GBIN227IN227&q=10+cm+in+inches&meta=]
** 20 centimeters = 7.87401575 inches approx 8[http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GZEZ_en-GBIN227IN227&q=20+cm+in+inches&meta=]
* 10–25 cm = 4-10 in
** 10 centimeters = 3.93700787 inches approx 4 [http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GZEZ_en-GBIN227IN227&q=10+cm+in+inches&meta=]
** 25 centimeters = 9.84251969 inches approx 10 [http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GZEZ_en-GBIN227IN227&q=25+cm+in+inches&meta=]
* 30 cm = 12 in (not 1 ft, we must maintain consistency throughout the article)
** 30 centimeters = 11.8110236 inches approx 12 in [http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GZEZ_en-GBIN227IN227&q=30+cm+in+inches&meta=]
* 12 ft = 3.7 m
** 12 feet = 3.6576 meters approx 3.7 [http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GZEZ_en-GBIN227IN227&q=12+feet+in+meters&meta=]
* 180 kg = 400 lb
** 180 kilograms = 396.832072 pounds approx 397 approx 400 [http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GZEZ_en-GBIN227IN227&q=180+kg+in+lb&meta=]
* 27 degrees celsius = 81 degrees fahrenheit <small>(This is in fact the only correction to be made on the page regarding the numerical values)</small>
** 27 degrees Celsius = 80.6 degrees Fahrenheit approx 81 [http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GZEZ_en-GBIN227IN227&q=27+degrees+celsius+in+fahrenheit&meta=]

To me, what this means is pretty clear. The well meaning anon IP who tried to correct the numbers deserves an apology, not the rebuke put on zir talk page - [[User talk:72.24.189.30]]. I am only commenting about the changes in the numerical values, not anything else done by said IP. Whatever other changes the IP has removed, by all means fix em back (if they have to be), however I still find it a little hard to believe per [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kudzu&diff=141593649&oldid=141555741 this] that the ''The strong fragrance is very similar to grape soda pop''. If indeed this is true, it should have a [[WP:RS|reference in tow]] as well the neccessary description of what exactly grape soda pop smells like.

Regards,<span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Xcentaur|xC]] | [[User_talk:Xcentaur|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;">☎</span>]] </span> 14:31, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

== Precision of numbers (and reverts) ==
The correct conversion of 20-30m to feet is "70-100 ft" per [[significant figure]]. In this article, it was changed [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kudzu&diff=138706815&oldid=137484794 here] (along with many similar numbers). There have been a number of reverts since then, but I don't know whether they are aimed at this changed, since a lot of other stuff was reverted as well. If the number precision is the issue, we should discuss it here. But it could be some totally unrelated thing. Let's try to figure out what the issue is. [[User:Kingdon|Kingdon]] 15:14, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

:If you believe that it should be 70-100 ft, and not 66-98 ft, then keep it as is. I am still of the belief that in excess rounding off we are losing out on the actual data. Rounding a decimal is one thing, adding an excess four feet to a figure seems a little shaky to me.
:I have nothing to comment about the content, since I haven't worked on this article. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable about the topic could have a look, I have nothing to add there.<span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Xcentaur|xC]] | [[User_talk:Xcentaur|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;">☎</span>]] </span> 15:35, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

== References ==
The article is fairly well cited, but there were no full citations for any of the references anywhere in the article. So, I'm converting them all to fully-cited footnotes instead of plain external links. I've done about half the article, the only section left is "Kudzu as an invasive species" which I'll do later today. --[[User:Darkwind|Darkwind]] [[User talk:Darkwind|(talk)]] 19:34, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
:Done. --[[User:Darkwind|Darkwind]] [[User talk:Darkwind|(talk)]] 21:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

This article says that the jelly made from the flowers is well-known in the South. I've lived in GA for my entire life (21 years) and have never heard of this. Ever.
-Chris <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/97.81.111.200|97.81.111.200]] ([[User talk:97.81.111.200|talk]]) 06:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:google on "kudzu jelly" gets 85,000 hits - looks like there's some useful sources in the result [[User:Tedickey|Tedickey]] ([[User talk:Tedickey|talk]]) 10:47, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

== Kudzu cures hangovers or doesn't? ==
I was looking at the Hangover article in Wikipedia, and it listed cures and "ineffective" cures. Kudzu was listed as being ineffective, with references. However, it noted the Kudzu had other uses so I navigated to this article.

Lo and behold, this article states, contrary to the hangover article, that studies have shown Kudzu as effective against hangovers. It also has references. Which one is right? [[Special:Contributions/99.240.217.191|99.240.217.191]] ([[User talk:99.240.217.191|talk]]) 19:56, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

:I think kudzu is used more for curbing cravings by alcoholics (preventative use) as opposed to relieving hangovers (corrective use). I don't know enough about studies (even if any were done) to conclusively state that the hangover part of this article should be removed and just refer to preventative uses. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/142.67.28.35|142.67.28.35]] ([[User talk:142.67.28.35|talk]]) 14:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

::I just did a search in both the American Journal of Medicine and the American Journal of Epidemiology, and the word "kudzu" does not appear even once in either journal. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/131.215.115.31|131.215.115.31]] ([[User talk:131.215.115.31|talk]]) 16:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:: If as referred to in this section, Kudzu contains the isoflavones daidzein, daidzin, its value as a hangover cure would be related to its upregulation of superoxide dismutase via estrogen receptor site beta. Phytochemistry. 2014 Feb;98:164-73. doi: 10.1016/j.phytochem.2013.11.019. Epub 2013 Dec 19.PMID: 24361291 ;Robb EL, Stuart JA.
Phytother Res. 2014 Jan;28(1):120-31. doi: 10.1002/ptr.4970. Epub 2013 Mar 21. [[Special:Contributions/108.38.82.175|108.38.82.175]] ([[User talk:108.38.82.175|talk]]) 07:18, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

==Another photo==
Seeing that there is already a photo showing the flower (the one with the butterfly), perhaps another can be used in the info box that depicts the actual plant? Also, to better demonstrate the invasive nature, perhaps one showing it overtaking a house, bridge, telephone pole would be helpful. [[User:SteveCoppock|SteveCoppock]] ([[User talk:SteveCoppock|talk]]) 17:53, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== Outdated/Incorrect Information ==
The information on this page is really outdated. I live on Long Island, in New York, and there's Kudzu here too. The article states the northmost it's been found is in New Jersey. Obviously, that source and the graph provided are incorrect. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Forest guy|Forest guy]] ([[User talk:Forest guy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Forest guy|contribs]]) 04:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

On a recent trip from Charlotte, NC to Southern NH I observed that Kudzu can be found along the entire NE interstate corridor. Growth seems to be at least several years old throughout Massachusetts and Southern NH. Growth also extended into central NH but seems to be relatively new. According to this page the temperature from central NH and north should be too cold for it to be able to sustain itself. [[User:Ispad1|Ispad1]] ([[User talk:Ispad1|talk]]) 23:08, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

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== Grow Kudzu ==
How can you grow it on purpose? It's illegal to sell it or buy it, i think, but How can you grow it on purpose?
--[[Special:Contributions/24.181.200.178|24.181.200.178]] ([[User talk:24.181.200.178|talk]]) 22:44, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

== Missing info suggestions ==
Here's somethings that I think the article should cover that I don't know enough about kudzu to add myself
* What Kudzu is like in Japan/China. It's native to that area but the entire article talks almost exclusively about the US.
** Where does it grow?
** How successful is it?
** What eats it?
** Is it used in farming there?
* The effects of Kudzu - Why is it a problem? Does it kill other plants? Trees? Drive out wildlife? All of the above?
* Better lead - the introduction doesn't really reflect the article contents.
[[User:Lot49a|<span style="color:blue">Lot</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Lot49a|<span style="color:orange">'''49a'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Lot49a|<span style="color:blue">talk</span>]]</sup> 06:02, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Destructive How? ==
Okay, the article doesn't really mention this, and it should. If the plant is destructive, then '''how''' is it destructive? I grew up in North Carolina, so I know it grows on telephone poles, and of course it obviously outcompetes the native flora for resources. Do the roots cause damage to roads? How exactly is it destructive? Thanks. --[[Special:Contributions/66.188.84.217|66.188.84.217]] ([[User talk:66.188.84.217|talk]]) 02:15, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

It chokes plants of sunlight by eventually covering them completely. [[Special:Contributions/138.26.8.109|138.26.8.109]] ([[User talk:138.26.8.109|talk]]) 16:15, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

== Re-vamp needed ==
As many of you noted above; this article is some-what sparse in information, it needs to be updated, and is missing a bunch of references. Check out my page on Kudz improvements [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NoFlyingCars/Kudzu here]. Please stop by and take a look - I need input; I want to make this a really good article! It's a great subject! [[User:NoFlyingCars|NoFlyingCars]] ([[User talk:NoFlyingCars|talk]]) 07:09, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for looking over these things; great to see someone with time/interest to work on this article. The dead-link references to websites can probably be replaced with better references (see [[WP:DEADREF]] for more discussion; in this case I suspect there was nothing particularly special about citing those websites rather than the many other sources which are presumably out there). Probably where I'd start, especially for medical issues, is a google search on "kudzu site:nih.gov" (seems to show a lot of pubmed and pubmedcentral hits). Something like "Pueraria -mirifica site:nih.gov" might also be helpful (although searching on the scientific name is somewhat complicated by the taxonomic issues with this species, mentioned in the article). [http://www.fs.fed.us/database/feis/plants/vine/puemonl/all.html FEIS] is good for some of the ecology. [http://www.hear.org/Pier/species/pueraria_montana_var_lobata.htm PIER] is good for its introduced range in the Pacific. Does that help you get started? If you have more questions, feel free to ask (here, or my talk page, or [[WT:PLANTS]]). [[User:Kingdon|Kingdon]] ([[User talk:Kingdon|talk]]) 15:15, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

== Needs info on exact nature of environmental damage ==
this article lacks actual information on how the plant is damaging to ecosystems. It obviously implies it, but it doesn't explain the exact nature of this damage. --[[Special:Contributions/86.155.162.26|86.155.162.26]] ([[User talk:86.155.162.26|talk]]) 01:25, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I aggreed with this i added the following to its information
"Kudzu's environmental and ecological damage results from acting through "Interference Competition", meaning that it out competes other species for a resource. Kudzu competes with native flora for light, and acts to block their access to this vital resource by growing over them and shading them with their leaves. Plants may then die as a result from this, resulting in the soil or substrate nutrients being used the original plant to become more freely available to Kudzu."
- This information was from my Ecology Textbook, Ecology 2nd edition authors Cain, Bowman and Hacker.2011 ISbn 978-0-87893-445-4
It is not plagiarized in anyway, but is a summary of sorts of information found on page 246 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/128.146.2.144|128.146.2.144]] ([[User talk:128.146.2.144|talk]]) 23:44, 21 May 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== needs addition in uses section ==
The article does not mention traditional uses by the Khmu, the indigenous people of Northern Laos. These uses are significant because they have been fundamental to the survival of Khmu culture for thousands of years. The thin white ribbon inside the stem of Puerana lobata (commonly called "tropical kudzu"} today continues to be used to tie the umbilical cord of village-born babies and to make rugged carry bags that have many applications, the most important of which has been to gather subsistence food, medicine and fiber essentials in remote mountainside forests. Until recent years the cord also was used to make fish nets. Images of Khmu opening the stem, removing the fiber, drying it in the sun and then transforming it into strong durable cord are included in several videos available on YouTube (search "Khmu bag"). Other than from my personal observations and experiences and those communicated to me by Professor Damrong Tayanin (Khmu name Kam Raw) of the Department of Linguistics and Phonetics of Lund University in Sweden, who grew up in a Khmu village (see http://person.sol.lu.se/DamrongTayanin/kammu.html), there appears to be very little written reference material. I am the principal sponsor of a poverty reduction project targeting the Khmu, and that is why I know of these uses. It also is why I cannot edit the article (COA). [[User:NatureBag|NatureBag]] ([[User talk:NatureBag|talk]]) 00:07, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

== The Chinese translation of the plant is based on the following.... ==
* http://www.tzagri.gov.cn/pindao/zhongzhi/yaocai/article/zhongyaogegen.htm
* http://branch.gdpu.edu.cn/xuebao/xb075PDF/06%E6%9D%8E%E5%9D%B7%E5%B9%B3.pdf
--[[Special:Contributions/222.64.18.248|222.64.18.248]] ([[User talk:222.64.18.248|talk]]) 06:15, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

== Info about T&N...any more official info for verification...in addition to the following...??? ==
* http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=Scientific_Name&search_kingdom=every&search_span=exactly_for&categories=All&source=html&search_credRating=All&search_value=Pueraria%20lobata
--[[Special:Contributions/222.64.18.248|222.64.18.248]] ([[User talk:222.64.18.248|talk]]) 06:28, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
* http://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_q=Pueraria+lobata+thunbergiana&num=10&btnG=Search+Scholar&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_occt=title&as_sauthors=&as_publication=&as_ylo=&as_yhi=&as_sdt=1.&as_sdtp=on&as_sdts=5&hl=en
* http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+lobata+thunbergiana&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0
--[[Special:Contributions/222.67.211.222|222.67.211.222]] ([[User talk:222.67.211.222|talk]]) 05:19, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
* http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+Pueraria+var.&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

{{See|Variety (plant)}} and {{See|Variety (botany)}}
--[[Special:Contributions/222.67.211.222|222.67.211.222]] ([[User talk:222.67.211.222|talk]]) 05:48, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

== Redundancy ==
I've noticed a handful of redundant information that seems like a waste of time and space.

"In Vietnam, it is called sắn dây." - is a perfect example of this. What viable purpose does this sentence serve? Should there be any particular individual who would be interested in knowing the name of the plant in Vietnamese (what are the odds of there being such a person? One in 99k?) he would be wise to consult a dictionary.

I suppose I could just as easily be in the dark and my reasoning could be fallacious, which is why I'm not taking an initiative in deleting the said sentence, if this is the case please tell me.

Regards, [[User:Agon|Agon]] ([[User talk:Agon|talk]]) 18:46, 27 July 2010 (UTC).

== Hang-overs ==
In Korea (as well as in China), it is used as a remedy for hang-overs. Unfortunately, I only know this by observation, so it can't be added unless some-one else has a viable source for this common-place in Korea. [[User:Kdammers|Kdammers]] ([[User talk:Kdammers|talk]]) 06:11, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
The article claims that kudzu is commonly used in the Southeastern US as a hangover cure. I've lived my entire life in the Southeast (Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, and South Carolina) and have never heard of it being used as such.  I know my experience is anecdotal and can't be used merely on its own, but there is also a lack of citation note for this claim; I would argue that the claim should be removed until a citation is found.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/160.10.98.198|160.10.98.198]] ([[User talk:160.10.98.198|talk]]) 18:59, 4 October 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

::If as referred to in this section, Kudzu contains the isoflavones daidzein, daidzin, its value as a hangover cure would be related to its upregulation of superoxide dismutase via estrogen receptor site beta. Phytochemistry. 2014 Feb;98:164-73. doi: 10.1016/j.phytochem.2013.11.019. Epub 2013 Dec 19.PMID: 24361291 ;Robb EL, Stuart JA.; Phytother Res. 2014 Jan;28(1):120-31. doi: 10.1002/ptr.4970. Epub 2013 Mar 21. [[Special:Contributions/108.38.82.175|108.38.82.175]] ([[User talk:108.38.82.175|talk]]) 07:26, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

== Harm section ==
The article doesn't give any explanation as to what harm kudzu can cause to other plants. Reading this article, which tells of efforts to get rid of it, one has no idea ''why'' one would want to get rid of it. [[Special:Contributions/74.178.230.234|74.178.230.234]] ([[User talk:74.178.230.234|talk]]) 06:06, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
:Changes made. See what you think. [[User:Nadiatalent|Nadiatalent]] ([[User talk:Nadiatalent|talk]]) 13:18, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks! That was well done! [[Special:Contributions/74.178.230.234|74.178.230.234]] ([[User talk:74.178.230.234|talk]]) 05:06, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

== Edit war over Kudzu basket ==
[[File:Handmade basket kudzu.jpg|thumb|Kudzu Basket]]
An edit war is documented at [[User talk:Mikeblas]] concerning this image. It has been removed from this article with the claim that it is unreferenced and self-promotional material, and that there's no way to substantiate that the basket was made from kudzu. [[User:Nadiatalent|Nadiatalent]] ([[User talk:Nadiatalent|talk]]) 17:43, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

== Confusing Introductory Paragraph ==
The first sentence of the article states that “Kudzu is misunderstood.” While this may or may not be the case, it seems odd that the reader would be told that the plant has problems with its PR before even being told what it is.

Also, if a weed is a plant in an undesired place, and so refers to human sentiment, as opposed to some more official classification, then to simply refer to Kudzu everywhere as a weed would be inaccurate. I'm suppose that saying that Kudzu is thought of as a weed in many countries in which it problematic would be better. But then, that's my opinion!
[[User:Tomásdearg92|Tomásdearg92]] ([[User talk:Tomásdearg92|talk]]) 01:53, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
:Modified the ''weed'' bit -- hopefully for the better... [[User:Vsmith|Vsmith]] ([[User talk:Vsmith|talk]]) 14:07, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks, I'm new-ish so the last thing I'd want is to be seen to be [[nitpicking]]! [[User:Tomásdearg92|Tomásdearg92]] ([[User talk:Tomásdearg92|talk]]) 03:32, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

== Kudzu and the greenhouse effect ==
I found an interesting study, might be valuable to use the information in this article:
* [http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/07/invasive-kudzu-drives-carbon-out-of-the-soil-into-the-atmosphere/ Invasive kudzu drives carbon out of the soil, into the atmosphere], 16 July 2014, Malcolm Campbell, ''Ars Technica''
— [[User:Ark25|'''<span style="background:#0070F0;color:#ffffff">&nbsp;Ark25&nbsp;</span>''']] ([[User_talk:Ark25|talk]]) 23:54, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

:Yes it is interesting, but I'd be cautious about regarding arstechnica as a reliable source for the subject matter - [http://arstechnica.com/about-us/ this page] shows that it's a publication primarily concerned with writing about technology, not plants or ecology. An example of what could be called unreliability are the sentences in the article that, after stating that kudzu invasion causes the release of carbon equivalent to "the annual carbon footprint for a city of 1 million", go on to state that "The release of this amount of carbon into the atmosphere could itself contribute to global warming. This could create a feedback effect, as elevated temperature would enable kudzu to extend its range to more northern latitudes." This appears to be somewhat careless editorialising - I personally wouldn't consider that the additional carbon footprint of the equivalent of just 1 million people would in any way be sufficient to be responsible for creating a feedback effect on sufficient scale to allow an extension of kudzu's range, which is what those sentences state. Looking at  [http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/nph.12795/abstract the abstract] of the original paper on which the article is based, it doesn't appear to make such a claim. [[User:PaleCloudedWhite|PaleCloudedWhite]] ([[User talk:PaleCloudedWhite|talk]]) 07:33, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

==attribution==
Correct WP attribution requires the specific attribution of all material taken fro man outside source, including public domain sources. The matte from the US govt. sources must therefore be indicated, buy quotation marks or otherwise. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 21:55, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

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== [[Kudzu]], [[Kudzu in the United States|Kudzu in the US]], ''[[Pueraria]]'', and [[Pueraria montana var. lobata|''P.'' var. ''lobata'']] ==

These four articles overlap with one another to some degree and it confuses readers.
{{columns-list|colwidth=10em|
* [[Kudzu]]
* [[Kudzu in the United States|Kudzu in the US]]
* ''[[Pueraria]]''
* [[Pueraria montana var. lobata|''P.'' var. ''lobata'']]
}}
I have some suggestions:
# East Asian food and traditional medicine-related content should be located at [[Pueraria montana var. lobata|''Pueraria montana'' var. ''lobata'']].
# Botanical information should be located at ''[[Pueraria]]''.
# Content on kudzu as a group of invasive plants in the United states should be moved to [[Kudzu in the United States]].
# Kudzu as a group of invasive plants in general should be dealt at [[Pueraria#Invasive species|''Pueraria'' article's "Invasive species" subsection]]. A section hatnote like "Further information: [[Kudzu in the United States]]" may be appropriate.

--[[User:Comedora|Comedora]] ([[User talk:Comedora|talk]]) 06:37, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

:It has been a while since I edited any of these articles, but the above seems to be well thought out. ''[[Pueraria]]'' isn't a very big genus, so it would be practical to put some of the material in that article, as suggested. [[User:Kingdon|Kingdon]] ([[User talk:Kingdon|talk]]) 01:07, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

:: I hope this article is merged with [[Pueraria montana var. lobata|''P.'' var. ''lobata'']]. --[[User:Now wiki|Now wiki]] ([[User talk:Now wiki|talk]]) 22:45, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

== "'葛' redirects here" ==

Per [[WP:RFFL]] - do we need a redirect for a foreign language translation of kudzu? --[[User:Ineffablebookkeeper|Ineffablebookkeeper]] ([[User talk:Ineffablebookkeeper|talk]]) 17:46, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

: I guess the redirect should be deleted. For one thing, its existence seems to just further complicate questions such as what should be on this page and what should be on pages like [[Pueraria_montana_var._lobata]] [[User:Kingdon|Kingdon]] ([[User talk:Kingdon|talk]]) 03:58, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
:The redirect still exists - have we reached a consensus on this issue? [[User:HaapsaluYT|HaapsaluYT]] ([[User talk:HaapsaluYT|talk]]) 17:45, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

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