View source for Talk:KK

{{WikiProject banner shell|
{{WikiProject Disambiguation}}
}}
==Untitled==
KK means 'okay'<small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.229.219.151|68.229.219.151]] ([[User talk:68.229.219.151|talk]]) 02:47, 5 January 2005 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP -->

'''KK is German internet-slang for 'kurz kacken''''<small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/84.60.163.159|84.60.163.159]] ([[User talk:84.60.163.159|talk]]) 17:33, 30 November 2005 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP -->

No, "kk" is NOT a German Slang for "kurz kacken"!
I just delete this.<small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/217.232.214.67|217.232.214.67]] ([[User talk:217.232.214.67|talk]]) 19:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP -->

KK is internet lingo which means okay.  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.249.69.78|71.249.69.78]] ([[User talk:71.249.69.78|talk]]) 03:06, 3 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== KK ==
@Whoever removed Krishnakumar menon. He is credited everywhere as KK, so how can you say, that this list is only meant for people who are referred to as KK and remove his name?
--[[User:Rsrikanth05|Rsrikanth05]] ([[User talk:Rsrikanth05|talk]]) 07:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

KK _IS_ a german internet slang for 'kurz kacken', its just not used very often.. I am german, i know it..  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.68.230.137|88.68.230.137]] ([[User talk:88.68.230.137|talk]]) 21:03, 11 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== ''[[Kabushiki kaisha]]'' ==

If this is not one of the primary topics, what is, {{u|Bkonrad}}? Certainly, [[MOS:DABORDER]] instructs that most likely uses should come first. Certainly, {{xt|KK, the production code for the 1967 Doctor Who serial The Faceless Ones}} is less common a use of KK than ''[[kabushiki kaisha]]''. [[User:Psiĥedelisto|Psiĥedelisto]] ([[User talk:Psiĥedelisto|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Psiĥedelisto|contribs]]) <sup>please ''always'' [[Help:Notifications|ping]]!</sup> 10:22, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

:By the definition of [[WP:primary topic]] and [[WP:Primary redirect]], [[KK]] should redirect to [[kabushiki kaisha]] if that were the primary topic. It does not and therefore by definition is not the primary topic -- unless you intend to propose moving the disambiguation page to [[KK (disambiguation)]] and changing [[KK]] to be a redirect. The format and arrangement in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=KK&diff=963706615&oldid=963705717 your edit] doesn't comply in any respect of [[WP:MOSDAB]]. [[User:Bkonrad|older]] ≠ [[User talk:Bkonrad|wiser]] 10:46, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
::{{ping|Bkonrad}} How do I request a redirect be made? {{tl|requested move}} isn't right, and {{tl|merge to}} doesn't seem right either. [[User:Psiĥedelisto|Psiĥedelisto]] ([[User talk:Psiĥedelisto|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Psiĥedelisto|contribs]]) <sup>please ''always'' [[Help:Notifications|ping]]!</sup> 11:33, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
:::{{small|I asked for help in IRC and was told that [[WP:RM]] is, indeed, the proper mechanism, and I misunderstood something on the page. [[User:Psiĥedelisto|Psiĥedelisto]] ([[User talk:Psiĥedelisto|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Psiĥedelisto|contribs]]) <sup>please ''always'' [[Help:Notifications|ping]]!</sup> 12:55, 21 June 2020 (UTC)}}
:{{replyto|Psiĥedelisto}} Who claimed that {{xt|KK, the production code for the 1967 Doctor Who serial The Faceless Ones}} was more common a use of KK than ''[[kabushiki kaisha]]''? I {{diff|KK|prev|883687819|added that entry}}, and certainly never made any such claim either then or since. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 20:54, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
::{{ping|Redrose64}} My understanding of [[MOS:DABORDER]], which can easily be wrong, is that the claim is inherent in the order. [[User:Psiĥedelisto|Psiĥedelisto]] ([[User talk:Psiĥedelisto|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Psiĥedelisto|contribs]]) <sup>please ''always'' [[Help:Notifications|ping]]!</sup> 20:58, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
:::{{re|Psiĥedelisto}} Per [[WP:D2D]], there are two types of disambiguation page.  The first type (example: [[Venus (disambiguation)]]) begins by briefly describing the primary topic at the base name ([[Venus]]), then lists other meanings.  The second type (example: [[Mercury]]) lists all meanings because there is no primary topic.  [[KK]] is of the second type, because there is no primary topic.  Most entries are grouped by topic (People, Places, etc.) with little regard for which are more likely.  Exceptionally, where a few topics are far more likely than others but still not primary, we can list them first, as done at [[Mercury]].  [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes|talk]]) 21:21, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Certes}} Thank you. I misunderstood what [[MOS:DABORDER]] is trying to convey. Somehow I'd never read [[WP:PTOPIC]] before. Thanks for educating me. [[User:Psiĥedelisto|Psiĥedelisto]] ([[User talk:Psiĥedelisto|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Psiĥedelisto|contribs]]) <sup>please ''always'' [[Help:Notifications|ping]]!</sup> 21:33, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
:::{{replyto|Psiĥedelisto}} Or more simply, I added the Doctor Who one under Arts and media because that was the most logical section (yes it's the first section, but the order that the six main sections are arranged in is purely alphabetical except that Other uses is last). I added the Doctor Who one at the bottom of the Arts and media list because it was arguably the ''least'' common use of the five in that section. I certainly had no intention of usurping the precedence of anything else on the page. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 22:28, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

== Requested move 21 June 2020 ==
<div class="boilerplate" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"><!-- Template:RM top -->
:''The following is a closed discussion of a [[Wikipedia:Requested moves|requested move]]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a [[Wikipedia:move review|move review]] after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. ''

The result of the move request was: {{withdrawn}} '''by nominator''' due to discussion in section {{format link|#Kabushiki kaisha|italicizesection=y}} above.  [[User:Psiĥedelisto|Psiĥedelisto]] ([[User talk:Psiĥedelisto|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Psiĥedelisto|contribs]]) <sup>please ''always'' [[Help:Notifications|ping]]!</sup> 21:33, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
----

[[:KK]] → {{no redirect|KK (disambiguation)}} – I propose that [[KK]] become a redirect to ''[[kabushiki kaisha]]'', and that that page have added to the top: {{Redirect|KK}}{{parabr}}The current page, is, in my view, out-[[MOS:DABORDER]]. It has many uncommon uses of "KK" above ''kabushiki kaisha''. I had thought this would be an uncontroversial change, because as far as I'm concerned, there are only two common uses of KK: the Japanese corporation, and <tt>kk</tt>, as in, [[okay]] in [[texting language]]. However, I found myself reverted by {{u|Bkonrad}}. Therefore, I request third parties give their opinion to resolve the dispute. [[User:Psiĥedelisto|Psiĥedelisto]] ([[User talk:Psiĥedelisto|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Psiĥedelisto|contribs]]) <sup>please ''always'' [[Help:Notifications|ping]]!</sup> 12:55, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''', no evidence provided to establish that there is a primary topic. [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-20&pages=KK|KK_(song)|Kabushiki_gaisha|KK_(singer) page views] data indicates the Japanese corporation is not primary topic for the initialism (if anything, it suggests the Indian singer is the primary topic). [[User:Bkonrad|older]] ≠ [[User talk:Bkonrad|wiser]] 13:09, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
:* {{ping|Bkonrad}} I would not oppose redirecting instead to the singer, and adding to the top of his page {{Redirect|KK|the Japanese legal entity|Kabushiki kaisha|other uses|KK (disambiguation)}} if that reaches consensus. Let's consider this option '''ALT1'''. [[User:Psiĥedelisto|Psiĥedelisto]] ([[User talk:Psiĥedelisto|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Psiĥedelisto|contribs]]) <sup>please ''always'' [[Help:Notifications|ping]]!</sup> 13:13, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''' and leave as is.  It's hard to tell what the primary topic might be.  Many [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=wikilinks&range=latest-20&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&target=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KK page views] will record access via more common terms but an unknown number come from referring to the entries as KK or variants. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes|talk]]) 13:32, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
----
: ''The discussion above is closed.  <b style="color: #FF0000;">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.''<!-- from [[Template:Archive bottom]] -->
</div><div style="clear:both;"></div>