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==Userbox==
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If you watch KCTV/KSMO for your news source, here is the userbox you can display on your user page if you'd like. The code is {{tl|User KCTV/KSMO-TV}}. '''''[[User:Corkythehornetfan|Corkythehornetfan]]'''''<sup>''([[User talk:Corkythehornetfan|talk]])''</sup> 01:20, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

==Untitled==
This article indicates that the change from call letters KCMO to KCTV was tied to the TV 5 branding. I believe there was a feud with Kansas City Missouri City Hall when KCMO moved their offices to Kansas. The tower also had some additional lighting added to the tower at that time.

[[User:Starrymessenger|Starrymessenger]] ([[User talk:Starrymessenger|talk]]) 03:49, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Kansas City Star - December 2, 2004 - E1 

Live, late-breaking ... and the leader
 
In the first five minutes of this story, you'll learn the shocking details behind the TV station that toppled market leader KMBC! If that teaser sounds familiar, then you've probably been watching KCTV, Channel 5, lately. Join the crowd. For the first time in more than a decade, KCTV is sitting pretty atop the 10 p.m. Nielsen ratings at the end of a November sweeps month.  

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According to Neilsen Media Research, the 10pm news ratings look like this:

KCTV
KMBC
KSHB
WDAF

KCTV has been #1 at 10pm sunce November, 2004.

I don't know where you are hearing that WDAF is #1 at 10pm, but that's just not true.

WDAF does lead the morning news ratings race.

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KCTV is not the number one news station in Kansas City at 10. As a resident and native of Kansas City, I am sure that it is not number one- channel 4 (WDAF) claims that it has the number one at 10 slot. If you have further evidence, please show it here. So, until you do- then i will remove the phrase that says it has the number 1 news slot. 
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Both pages need to be merged '''and''' cleaned up a little bit.  One only covers KCTV's recent history - the other needs much more information in general. [[User:Amnewsboy|Amnewsboy]] 19:30, 5 September 2005 (UTC)



== Chopper 5 / Sky Hawk 5 ==
Well I found some information to be conflicting to what I know. Chopper 5 is the 2nd Chopper that KCTV has used the First one being Sky Hawk 5 which was used in the mid to late 1990's. KCTV 5 was the 2nd Station to have a chopper. But for some reaosn KCTV-5 got rid of this chopper went without one for a few years.

== KCTV 5 logo and the leaked star wars holiday special ==
The KCTV 5 logo appears on a frequently leaked star wars holiday special video on the internet, should this be noted here?



Why should the competition (KMBC) post information on KCTV? It's here, and you can see the source on the TV blog on kansascity.com


ANSWER: What you removed was Channel-5!!!!!!!  The section ended by showing the influence that Channel-5's FRIDAY FRIGHT NIGHT had other shows.  Since when does mention of competition has become TABOO; so, by the rationale, Sir Isaac Newton should never have to endure the menion of Leibniz!!!  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.21.21.116|99.21.21.116]] ([[User talk:99.21.21.116|talk]]) 04:31, 12 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Fair use rationale for Image:Kctv0588.jpg==
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== Adding unreferenced entries of former employees to lists containing BLP material ==

Hello, Please do not add unreferenced or improperly referenced names as entries to the list of former employees in the article. Not including this type of material in articles abides by current consensus and is strongly discouraged in our policies and guidelines. The rationales are as follows:

#[[WP:NOT]] tells us, Wikipedia is "not an indiscriminate collection of information."  As that section describes, just because something is true, doesn't necessarily mean the info belongs in Wikipedia.  
#As per [[WP:V]], we cannot include information in Wikipedia that is not verifiable and sourced. 
# [[WP:NLIST]] tells us that lists included within articles (including people's names) are subject to the same need for references as any other information in the article. 
#Per [[WP:BLP]], we have to be especially careful about including un-sourced info about living persons.

If you look at articles about companies in general, you will not find mention of previous employees, except in those cases where the employee was particularly notable.  Even then, the information is not presented just as a list of names, but is incorporated into the text itself (for example, when a company's article talks about the policies a previous CEO had, or when they mention the discovery/invention of a former engineer/researcher). thanks [[User:Deconstructhis|Deconstructhis]] ([[User talk:Deconstructhis|talk]]) 14:50, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== Ex-Employees ==

It is pointless to add any former employees as there are too many and it gets confusing and eventually people start messing with the add ons and put dates that are wrong and add more and more people or they condense a list to make the article look better. There isn't any reason to have just two ex-employees listed versus several either. The question then is why those two? Just a slippery slope I dealt with in trying to fix the site for a while. I tried to add as many people as I could recall and eventually it got too long. Then someone added dates to each employee that was either wrong or with question marks because they didn't know when they were at the station. Way too long and time consuming and if I have to start citing verification it would take hours. The station changes staff about every year anyways. Then people will want to put the ones who just left. It is a mess I will no longer deal with. I was just fixing the list that was there which had about 10 people about two years ago or more and every six months would add more people. I had the same problems with the CNN and MSNBC articles and we took out the list of former employees. I see they also took out the Fox News section as well.- User.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.166.166.101|24.166.166.101]] ([[User talk:24.166.166.101|talk]]) 18:44, 12 October 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I have to admit that I restored your removal of the section on sight primarily because you failed to utilize an edit summary when you performed the edit; not necessarily because I disagree with your rationale for doing so. If you fail to utilize an edit summary to give other editors a heads up on your intentions and point them to the talk page for your reasoning, it's quite easy to misread any substantial removal as a case of vandalism and deal with it accordingly. That being said; anyone who examines my edit history quickly learns that I'm not exactly a huge fan of unreferenced lists of former employees of television stations and believe that minimally entries should only be included if a pre-existing article exists for the individuals mentioned; ideally an entry should also include a reference indicating why the person being included is "notable" in terms of the subject of the article itself; the television station as per [[WP:NLIST]] and [[WP:V]]. I'm going to add an "unreferenced section" template to the material in question in order to provide those so inclined an opportunity to substantiate the notability of these two persons to KCTV; if substantiation is not provided in short order, I have no objection to removing the section itself. cheers [[User:Deconstructhis|Deconstructhis]] ([[User talk:Deconstructhis|talk]]) 22:53, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

==Pending Deal with Meredith and Time inc==

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-meredith-time-inc-20171126-story.html

This proposed deal involves Time inc's assets and Meredith's assets coming into one entity. As of  November 2017 the Koch Brothers has been named as people involved in the deal. Its a pending deal that affects Meredith owned stations. 

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==2002 logo retired==
In December 2020, KCTV adopted Meredith's graphics package that was originally created for WSMV in April of 2020. As part of the graphics change, the station's logo that was in use in various forms since 2002 has been retired and replaced by a similar version version of KPHO's 2009–present logo. [[User:J4lambert|J4lambert]] ([[User talk:J4lambert|talk]]) 15:06, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
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==Did you know nomination==
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== Requested move 26 December 2024 ==

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[[KCTV]] → {{no redirect|KCTV (Kansas City)}} – It appears that the North Korea's KCTV ([[Korean Central Television]]) is the [[Wikipedia:PRIMARYTOPIC|primary topic]] for the search term "KCTV". Therefore, I think this article should be moved to "KCTV (Kansas City)" and leave [[KCTV]] as a redirect to [[Korean Central Television]]. As the Kansas City's KCTV article is a good article, an undiscussed move may be controversial.

Based on [[google:"KCTV"+"North+Korea"+-wikipedia&sca_esv=d68bc316d57e2cfd&tbm=nws&ei=53dtZ-TKJsni2roPzorA4Qc&start=90&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwik2ujW4cWKAxVJsVYBHU4FMHwQ8tMDegQIBBAU&biw=1366&bih=607&dpr=1|Google search results of North Korea's KCTV]], [[google:"KCTV"+"Kansas"+-wikipedia&sca_esv=d68bc316d57e2cfd&tbm=nws&ei=uXhtZ6e8PLak2roPqLStyQg&start=0&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwjn_I-74sWKAxU2klYBHShaK4k4MhDy0wN6BAgFEAQ&biw=1366&bih=607&dpr=1|Google search results of Kansas City's KCTV]], [https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2024-09-26&end=2024-12-24&pages=Korean_Central_Television%7CKCTV combined page view for two articles] and [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Korean+Central+Television%2C+KCTV5&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&case_insensitive=true&corpus=en&smoothing=3 Google Books Ngram viewer] (KCTV5 is the Kansas City's KCTV), it also appears that the North Korea's KCTV is gaining more worldwide attention than the Kansas City's KCTV. [[User:TCU9999|TCU9999]] ([[User talk:TCU9999|talk]]) 15:46, 26 December 2024 (UTC)<small>—&nbsp;'''''Relisting.'''''&nbsp;—usernamekiran [[User talk:usernamekiran|(talk)]] 03:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC)</small>

*'''Oppose'''. The hatnote is sufficient in this case, although [[KCTV (disambiguation)]] could be created. [[User:Mvcg66b3r|Mvcg66b3r]] ([[User talk:Mvcg66b3r|talk]]) 18:36, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
*'''Weak support''' Korean Central Television has 3,450 views compared with only 1,805[[https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-20&pages=KCTV|Korean_Central_Television]] for the Kansas City one so depending on how much the Korean one is known with the acronym there may be no primary topic. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]])  21:40, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
*Is [[Korean Central Television]] commonly known under the name KCTV? If not, then the current situation is fine. If so, then it depends if [[KCTV]] should be a DAB page or if [[KCTV]] should redirect to [[Korean Central Television]]. The former is more likely unless Korean Central Television is overwhelmingly referred to as KCTV, which doesn't seem to be the case. [[User:Steelkamp|Steelkamp]] ([[User talk:Steelkamp|talk]]) 07:13, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
* What a chewy toughie. In ProQuest, searching for "KCTV" "Kansas City" between 2000–2024 yields 3,024 results. There are 899 for "KCTV" "North Korea" in the same time frame, but the share of these that are professional theses and dissertations is higher. However, I lean '''oppose'''. It is impossible to naturally disambiguate a call sign, unlike a common-name title like Korean Central Television. [[User:Sammi Brie|<span style="color:#ba4168">Sammi Brie</span>]] (she/her • [[User talk:Sammi Brie|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sammi Brie|c]]) 08:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
*'''Comment''': It appears that it is no primary topic, therefore, I suggests an alternative option: Move the "KCTV" article per above, but leave "KCTV" as a redirect to [[KCTV (disambiguation)|disambiguation page]]. [[User:TCU9999|TCU9999]] ([[User talk:TCU9999|talk]]) 03:51, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
*'''Support''' move, '''oppose''' redirect of [[KCTV]] to [[Korean Central Television]]; create a disambiguation page instead. Pageviews are close enough to support the possibility that there is [[WP:NOPRIMARY]]. [[User:RachelTensions|RachelTensions]] ([[User talk:RachelTensions|talk]]) 03:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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