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I do not know if I did this correctly.

I was trying to correct the page "BMW Isetta" which only covered the German built Isettas. 

Regards - [[User:Oldfarm|Oldfarm]] 02:03, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Picture==
I have scanned a photograph by me of a Spanish Iso Isetta from 1954 from the front-right and from the right side.
It was made in a museum so it suffers from the car being too lit by the flash with the background being too dark.
If you think that the article lacks pictures, [[User talk:Error|tell me]], and try to enhance the pic and upload it.
--[[User:Error|Error]] 20:56, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

==Alternative Picture, inc. CU of Interior Steering Column Area==
If someone likes any of these pictures there are available to include in the article.  I took these of a vehicle I saw on the street in Bad Tolz in around 1987.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dcsutherland  [[User:Dcsutherland|Dcsutherland]] ([[User talk:Dcsutherland|talk]]) 02:31, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

== External Links ==

I removed the link/spam for [http://www.unitedbimmer.com/| United Bimmer] from this article.  The Isseta appears only once on the forums, as an aside, and there is no detailed section dedicated to the Isetta at all.  Basically, someone wants to drive ([[pun]] intended) traffic to a site that, while affiliated with BMW automobiles/owners/admirers, has nothing to do with this topic.  --[[User:Sirimiri|Sirimiri]] 05:32, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

-- I agree [[User:Oldfarm|Oldfarm]] 14:05, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

== what is the meaing of "isetta"? ==
Is there anyone can tell me the real meaning or the orgin of this word, isetta? thanx!

:From the article: "By 1952 the engineers Ermenegildo Preti and Pierluigi Raggi had designed a small car that used the scooter engine and named it Isetta — ''an Italian diminutive meaning little ISO.''" [[User:Oldfarm|Oldfarm]] 12:51, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== 'Zetta' Kitcar ==
I can't find a working link for the UK firm that makes (or made?) the 'Zetta' kit referenced in this article.  I'm leaving the reference in place, as I do not have time to research it right now.  Someone may want to see if the demise of this company can be confirmed and re-write (or delete) the reference.
: The link was good a few weeks ago. It seems that the link has now disappeared. Let's leave it for 30 days and try again then. [[User:Oldfarm|Oldfarm]] 17:23, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

== Romi-Isetta in Havana? ==

The picture of the "Romi-Isetta" in Havana appears to depict a [[BMW 600]] or a vehicle similar to it.  Its rear track is similar in width to its front track, and it appears to have a back seat.  Did Romi-Isetta make a car similar to the BMW 600? [[User:SamBlob|Respectfully, SamBlob]] 16:05, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

== Isetta Reborn ==

The text in this section is pasted from an article on the web.  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/90.195.136.31|90.195.136.31]] ([[User talk:90.195.136.31|talk]]) 19:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Removed it. [[Special:Contributions/131.107.0.73|131.107.0.73]] ([[User talk:131.107.0.73|talk]]) 20:59, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== Sargwagen ==

Surely it's not right to describe 'Sargwagen' as 'literally meaning coffin on wheels' ? It doesn't - I would have thought that it means something more like Coffin-car ? [[User:PateraIncus|PateraIncus]] ([[User talk:PateraIncus|talk]]) 20:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC)<br /><br />
A way more common nickname for the BMW Isetta was "Schlaglochsucher" (pothole-seeker) due to the differing wheel base on the front and tail wheels.--[[Special:Contributions/80.171.19.110|80.171.19.110]] ([[User talk:80.171.19.110|talk]]) 08:16, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

:Wheelbase bedeutet Radstand.   I think you mean (in English) Track.   But this does affect your point which is interesting in a light hearted sort of way.... [[User:Charles01|Charles01]] ([[User talk:Charles01|talk]]) 08:57, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
::Or "Advent car", after the Advent coral "lift up your heads, ye mighty gates", in German: "lift up the door", because of its peculiar way of entering it.--[[Special:Contributions/2001:A60:1570:3B01:D09C:DCC4:4E0D:C0B5|2001:A60:1570:3B01:D09C:DCC4:4E0D:C0B5]] ([[User talk:2001:A60:1570:3B01:D09C:DCC4:4E0D:C0B5|talk]]) 18:34, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

== Messerschmitt ==
Wsant there aq small tru wheeled "car" Made by famous Mserscehmiit co before the isetta? Thanks!
:Both the German Messerschmitt and the Italian Isetta vehicles came out in1953. See: [[Messerschmitt KR175|KR175]] / [[Messerschmitt KR200|KR200]].... [[User:Oldfarm|Oldfarm]] ([[User talk:Oldfarm|talk]]) 15:02, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

== Popular culture section ==

I can understand why most of the others were removed, but why was the entire section, including the ''Family Matters'' and the Urkel car, removed?  Not only is "Urkel car" a redirect here, but this car is widely recognized as the car that [[Steve Urkel|he]] uses.  &mdash;<em style="font-family:Lydian MT">[[User:Onore Baka Sama|Onore Baka Sama]]<sup>([[User talk:Onore Baka Sama|speak]] | [[Special:Contributions/Onore Baka Sama|stalk]])</sup></em> 17:18, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:A mention on that article seems enough. I'm generally opposed to pop/trivia sections, they contribute nothing to the understanding of the subject and smack of vanity editing. [[User:Brutaldeluxe|Brutal Deluxe]] ([[User talk:Brutaldeluxe|talk]]) 00:28, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

This page should definitely mention Family Matters because many people (not just Americans, because Family Matters was syndicated in a lot of markets) are only familiar with this car because of that show.  It's not like many of that car are driving around on the streets now.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.72.44.116|74.72.44.116]] ([[User talk:74.72.44.116|talk]]) 05:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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:Appearance on ''Family Matters'' could not have influenced the sales of the Isetta because production of the Isetta ended long before ''Family Matters'' was aired.

:[[User:SamBlob|Sincerely, SamBlob]] ([[User talk:SamBlob|talk]]) 20:30, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

== Three liters? ==

"The BMW Isetta was in 1955 the world's first mass-production 3-liter car."  I don't think so.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/208.53.195.38|208.53.195.38]] ([[User talk:208.53.195.38|talk]]) 17:36, 15 March 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:So whats an earlier one? --<span style="font:bold 11px Kristen ITC;padding:0 3px 0 4px">>[[User:Typ932|Typ932]]</span> <sup>[[User_talk:Typ932|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Typ932|C]]</sup> 17:56, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
::{{small|Where the Isetta is concerned, the size of ''the car itself'' was like 3 liters. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 18:10, 15 March 2011 (UTC)}}
:::The term "three-litre car" refers to a car's capability to run for 100 km with 3 litres of fuel. Not used very much in Anglosaxon countries that use mpg, but I believe it's a term that has recently been brought back from the fifties by German manufacturers. [[User:Brutaldeluxe|Egg carton]] ([[User talk:Brutaldeluxe|talk]]) 12:23, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

== Iso Autocarro ==

In my view most of the content of that section is copied directly from a web site and not paraphrased.  
http://www.microcarmuseum.com/tour/isettacarro.html  The Bruce Weiner Microcar Museum

Quote from the site: 
"Type Autocarro, a commercial version with full-width rear axle. ... The Autocarro was offered in several body styles, a flatbed pickup, enclosed truck (Furgone Commerciale), a tilt-bed, or even a fire engine!

This was an extremely popular type of vehicle in Italy, and numerous manufacturers produced some variant of the type. This included Iso themselves, having previously (1950-1953) produced a motorcycle-type Isocarro. The Iso Autocarro was larger than most, with its four-wheel layout, proper rear axle with differential and leaf springs, and massive tube frame. It was good for a 500 to 600 kg load. The name Isetta Autocarro was also used."
[[User:Peter K Burian|Peter K Burian]] ([[User talk:Peter K Burian|talk]]) 21:07, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

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==US Import Model==

I have no reference for it, but I can remember as a child about 1955 seeing a 3-wheel Isetta model in an automobile show room in Memphis, Tennessee. Perhaps someone can find a reference to a US import model? --[[User:Zeamays|Zeamays]] ([[User talk:Zeamays|talk]]) 23:21, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

==Was the Isetta manufactured or not in Argentina?==
{{Moved discussion from|Old location|2=User talk:Peaceray#Isseta}}

Hi there, concerning your reversion of the information about Isetta's being produced in Argentina, this is an error on the source page. "Isetta" was a term also used briefly by BMW for the BMW 600 in some of their advertising literature. De Carlo did have a licence for the BMW 600 (see De Carlo 600) on the same source. This source https://autohistoria.com.ar/marcas-de-autos/de-carlo/ provides another overview of the full scope of De Carlo's output. [[User:Mighty Antar|Mighty Antar]] ([[User talk:Mighty Antar|talk]]) 20:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

:This concerns {{diff|Isetta|1256371435|1256257460|my reversion edit}} on the Isetta page, & {{U|Mighty Antar}} was directing the question to me.
:I have come across other sources that indicate that {{ill|Metalmecánica|de}} did manufacture the Isetta in Argentina.
:*{{cite web |title=1956 BMW Isetta 300 |website=Audrain Auto Museum |url=https://www.audrainautomuseum.org/1956-bmw-isetta-300-boost-badge  |access-date=2024-11-09}}
:*{{cite web |title=BMW Isetta: The Iconic Bubble Car is The World’s First Microcar |website=themindcircle |date=2019-10-28 |url=https://themindcircle.com/bmw-isetta-bubble-mini-car/2/ |access-date=2024-11-09}}:*{{cite web |last=Axon |first=Gary |title=Isetta – the terrible car that saved BMW |website=Goodwood |date=2019-08-02 |url=https://www.goodwood.com/grr/road/news/axons-automotive-anorak-isetta--the-terrible-car-that-saved-bmw/ |access-date=2024-11-09}}
:*{{cite web |last=Bianchini |first=Riccardo |title=The history of the ISO/BMW Isetta, the world's first microcar |website=Inexhibit |date=2019-10-04 |url=https://www.inexhibit.com/case-studies/the-history-of-the-iso-bmw-isetta-the-worlds-first-microcar/ |access-date=2024-11-09}}
:*{{cite web |last=Radu |first=Vlad |title=The Isetta Story: How an Italian-Designed Microcar Saved BMW From Bankruptcy |website=autoevolution |date=2021-07-28 |url=https://www.autoevolution.com/news/the-isetta-story-how-an-italian-designed-microcar-saved-bmw-from-bankruptcy-166098.html |access-date=2024-11-09}}
:I will note that [[:fr:Isetta]], a featured article on French Wikipedia, does not mention Argentina at all. However, with no citation, the Spanish Wikipedia article, [[:es:Isetta]] states:
:{{tqb|''Fuera de Alemania, en Argentina la firma Metalmecánica SAIC bajo la marca de Carlo fabricó 1413 Isettas 600.'' [Outside Germany, in Argentina, the Metalmecánica SAIC firm under the Carlo brand manufactured 1,413 Isettas 600.]}}
:I am far from a vintage car aficionado. However, I will ask for input at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles]] & perhaps the talk pages on a couple other language versions of Isetta. But for now, the preponderence of sources do seem to indicate that some form of the Isetta was manufactured in Argentina. [[User:Peaceray|Peaceray]] ([[User talk:Peaceray|talk]]) 22:32, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
::I put notices on [[:es:Discusión:Isetta]], [[:fr:Discussion:Isetta]], [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Argentina]], & [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles]]. [[User:Peaceray|Peaceray]] ([[User talk:Peaceray|talk]]) 23:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
:::It is more difficult to prove a negative, but as I stated above, the confusion here is between the 4-seat BMW 600 and the 2-seat BMW Isetta. The four sources above all appear after the material about Argentinia production of an "Isetta" was added to this page in November 2017 using an almost verbatim translation of the Autohistoria source shown above. It is an understandable confusion, the BMW 600 began life in 1956 under the colloquial name of the "extended Isetta". It used some Isetta components and at least in the UK was referred to in 1957 as the Isetta 600 in official publications and its launch at the UK Motor Show. Nevertheless, the 2-seat Isetta that this page is about is notable for its absence from the individual vehicles that the otherwise very dependable Autohistoria page shows as being produced by Metalmecánica S.A.I.C..[[User:Mighty Antar|Mighty Antar]] ([[User talk:Mighty Antar|talk]]) 18:24, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
::::You may be correct in surmising that those sources might be a case of [[citogenesis]]. Let's give a weeks time to see if we can get any input from editors from the WikiProjects or eswiki or frwiki. [[User:Peaceray|Peaceray]] ([[User talk:Peaceray|talk]]) 18:04, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::::I am also suspecting that rather than "BMW 600", that model may have been manufactured in Argentina under the name "BMW Isetta 600":
::::{{tqb|''1959 – De Carlor, importador de motos BMW, empieza a ensamblar el BMW Isetta 600 y BMW 700; llegan hasta 1965;'' [1959 – De Carlo, a BMW motorcycle importer, begins assembling the BMW Isetta 600 and BMW 700; they continue until 1965;]<ref name="Franco 2024">{{cite book |last=Franco |first=Alejandro |title=Autos Argentinos |volume=Parte I: del Alcre al Ford Falcon |publisher=Alejandro Franco |year=2024 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=YicaEQAAQBAJ |language=es |access-date=2024-11-11}}</ref>{{rp|[{{GBurl|id=YicaEQAAQBAJ|pg=PA10|dq=BMW Isetta 600}} 10]}}}}
::::and from the same source:
::::{{tqb|''Los primeros coches armados fueron los BMW Isetta 600, los caules se produjeron entre 1959 y 1960 en modestas cantidades – unidades armadas-.'' [The first armed cars were the BMW Isetta 600, the cars were produced between 1959 and 1960 in modest quantities – armed units.]<ref name="Franco 2024"/>{{rp|[{{GBurl|id=YicaEQAAQBAJ|pg=PA49|dq=BMW Isetta 600}} 49]}}}}
::::It may be that we need to add an [[Help:Explanatory notes|explanatory footnote]] to the article that codifies this.
::::[[User:Peaceray|Peaceray]] ([[User talk:Peaceray|talk]]) 19:42, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

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