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==Untitled==
Article [[List of physics topics]] needs to be broken into at least 3 pieces; will this ruin the way current users use it? --[[User:Jerzy|Jerzy]] 11:07, 2003 Dec 10 (UTC)

NB the [[list of mathematics topics]] was broken into '''''eight''''', when it reached about 120K.

[[User:Charles Matthews|Charles Matthews]] 11:10, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I don't see how breaking it up would ruin anything. [[User:Theresa knott|theresa knott]] 11:15, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)~

:It means that we can't use it to monitor activity in the field anymore, via "related changes". How about we make the original format available as well? -- [[User:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]] 03:33, Dec 13, 2003 (UTC)

Tim, guess i didn't wait long enuf before acting. Don't hesitate on my acct from just reverting it; i have no need for the short-pages version, but proposed it on general principles as i understand them.  But maybe this needs to be added to a list of places where the 32K limit is a problem (here, and VfD that i'm aware of), to be thot about together.  
Hmm, what if the list of 32K problems goes over 32k [wink]?  --[[User:Jerzy|Jerzy]] 05:18, 2003 Dec 13 (UTC)

== length of these lists ==

These lists are getting quite long. Wouldn't it be better to format the mmore like the lists at [[list of mathematics topics]] to save on space? [[User:Karol Langner|Karol]] 17:11, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia talk:Verifiability#Should there be an exception for indexes?]] ==

There's a discussion on what the reference requirements for lists like this one.  [[User:The Transhumanist|The Transhumanist]] ([[User talk:The Transhumanist|talk]]) 01:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

==<s>Sortable tables...==

...should make it easier to read, use and maintain. </s>--<span style="font-family:'Gill Sans MT'">  [[User:F=q(E+v^B)|'''F''' = q]]([[User talk:F=q(E+v^B)|'''E''' + '''v''' × '''B''']])</span> 14:07, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

:Forget it - didn't realize there is a bug with them... =( --<span style="font-family:'Gill Sans MT'">  [[User:F=q(E+v^B)|'''F''' = q]]([[User talk:F=q(E+v^B)|'''E''' + '''v''' × '''B''']])</span> 16:10, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

== new format ==

I would propose to list using numbers, in columns of 25 at a time to keep track of the number of articles. Its not easy to read if they're all mashed up in just a few lines... for instance:

;'''A'''
{{Col-begin}}
{{Col-break}}
# [[Abbe number]]
# [[Absolute zero]]
# [[Accelerating universe]]
# [[Acceleration]]
# [[Acoustic theory]]
# [[Action (physics)]]
# [[Active laser medium]]
# [[Adiabatic process]]
# [[Aether theory]]
# [[Agrophysics]]
# [[Aharonov–Bohm effect]]
# [[Alcubierre metric]]
# [[Jean le Rond d'Alembert|Alembert, Jean le Rond d']]
# [[Zhores Ivanovich Alferov|Alferov, Zhores Ivanovich]]
# [[Hannes Olof Gösta Alfvén|Alfvén, Hannes Olof Gösta]]
# [[Alpha particle]]
# [[Alpher–Bethe–Gamow theory]]
# [[Luis Walter Alvarez|Alvarez, Luis Walter]]
# [[Amagat's law]]
# [[Amorphous silicon]]
# [[Ampere]]
# [[Ampere model of magnetization]]
# [[Ampère's law]]
# [[Angular frequency]]
# [[Angular momentum]]
{{Col-break}}
# <li value="26">[[Angular velocity]]</li>
# [[Annihilation operator]]
# [[Antenna theory]]
# [[Antiferromagnetism]]
# [[Antimatter]]
# [[Antiparticle]]
# [[Application of tensor theory in engineering science]]
# [[Applied mathematics]]
# [[Applied physics]]
# [[Archimedes' use of infinitesimals|Archimedes' "mechanical method"]]
# [[Area]]
# [[Aimé Argand|Argand, Aimé]]
# [[Jean#Robert Argand|Argand, Jean-Robert]]
# [[Svante Arrhenius|Arrhenius, Svante]]
# [[Arrow of time]]
# [[Francis William Aston|Aston, Francis William]]
# [[Astronomy]]
# [[Astrometry]]
# [[Astrophysics]]
# [[Robert d'Escourt Atkinson|Atkinson, Robert]]
# [[Atom]]
# [[Atomic clock]]
# [[Atomic electron transition]]
# [[Atomic force microscopy]]
# [[Atomic mass unit]]
{{Col-break}}
# <li value="51">[[Atomic nucleus]]</li>
# [[Atomic number]]
# [[Atomic physics]]
# [[International Atomic Time]]
# [[Atomic units]]
# [[Atomic weight]]
# [[Atomic, Molecular, and Optical physics]]
# [[Amedeo Avogadro|Avogadro, Amedeo]]
{{col-end}}

Any objections? <span style="font-family:'TW Cen MT';">[[User:F=q(E+v^B)|'''F''' =]] [[User talk:F=q(E+v^B)|q('''E+v×B''')]] [[Special:Contributions/F=q(E+v^B)|⇄ ∑<sub>i</sub>c<sub>i</sub>]]</span> 20:29, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

==Why the template?==
The new TOCs in the lists of physics articles work well. So well, I don't see the need for {{Tl|Index of physics articles}}. Why not just put in another TOC? [[User:RockMagnetist|RockMagnetist]] ([[User talk:RockMagnetist|talk]]) 19:38, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
*RockMagnetist, I'm going to T3 that template in a moment. It's not necessary anymore. [[User:Steel1943|Steel1943]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 04:38, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
**It looks great now! [[User:RockMagnetist|RockMagnetist]] ([[User talk:RockMagnetist|talk]]) 04:55, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
***Thanks! Cheers! [[User:Steel1943|Steel1943]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 05:00, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

==Untitled 2==
Isn't this what categories are for? [[User:PhantomTech|PhantomTech]] ([[User talk:PhantomTech|talk]]) 03:59, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
*This is an alphabetical index that was too large to be contained on three articles. If you need reference to how this is being done, please look at [[Index of physics articles]]. Due to the fact that these list articles were almost a tenth of a megabyte in site, they needed to be broken down. [[User:Steel1943|Steel1943]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 04:21, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
**Also, I am just editing the already long list that is there. If you see an issue with this, please bring this conversation to [[Talk:Index of physics articles]] instead. This will get more attention there. [[User:Steel1943|Steel1943]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 04:23, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

==More why's==
''Why the split?'' OK, I can see that, the old lists were just too long and it looks much nicer now. But then, what are they actually doing apart from looking nice? ''Why the list?'' I was occasionally using it (or the three sub-lists we had the last months) to monitor activity via 'Related changes'. This use was also mentioned in the old thread at the top, but now this is not possible any more. Is there any other use for the lists? Would anybody looking for an article use or even find them, instead of just looking up the article directly in the search box? &mdash;&thinsp;[[User:Hhhippo|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:times;">'''H<small>HHIPPO</small>'''</span>]] 07:58, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
:I wonder that myself. I have created a couple of indices for projects, and my sole motivation was to provide a source for "Related changes". WikiProject Mathematics even automates that process. If someone would create a similar tool for other projects to use, it would be so much easier to monitor activity! [[User:RockMagnetist|RockMagnetist]] ([[User talk:RockMagnetist|talk]]) 16:33, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
:There was an [[:Category talk:Indexes of topics#RfC on indexes|RfC on indexes]] a few months ago, but in an obscure location. [[User:RockMagnetist|RockMagnetist]] ([[User talk:RockMagnetist|talk]]) 16:38, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
::By the tool used by WikiProject Mathematics, do you mean [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics/Current activity]]? The 'recent edits' links there at the top are actually broken. I made a set of shortcuts for monitoring our indices on my user page, but it's cumbersome with so many links. There's also the WP physics watchlist on the toolserver [http://toolserver.org/~tim1357/cgi-bin/wikiproject_watchlist.py?template=WikiProject+Physics&b=0&limit=200&user=&order=desc], but I prefer the functionality (and the response time) of MediaWiki's related changes.
::Thanks for the RfC link, will have a look. &mdash;&thinsp;[[User:Hhhippo|<span style="color:darkblue; font-family:times;">'''H<small>HHIPPO</small>'''</span>]] 20:27, 12 March 2013 (UTC)