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== Requests to update article ==
{{edit COI|P|'''Requests No. 1 through 3 were implemented. Request No. 4 uses [[Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Words_to_watch#Puffery|peacock terms]] and was declined.'''}}
On behalf of Hilton, I am requesting some updates to the Hilton Worldwide Wikipedia article:

1. As has previously been discussed on this talk page (see [[Talk:Hilton_Worldwide/Archive_1#Re:_Blackstone_Group|this archived section]]), I believe it is incorrect to include "owners" in the infobox in any capacity. Since Hilton Worldwide is a publicly traded company, it is actually incorrect for anyone to be called an "owner" and the parameter guidelines for the infobox say (my bold): "''Use this parameter to list ownership percentages for private companies owned by a few key individuals or to list ownership percentages for joint ventures, if applicable. '''Do not use this field for publicly traded companies.''' When listing a company as an owner, use the full legal name of the entity that holds the ownership stake in the article's subject company.''" Therefore, I propose removing HNA Group, The Blackstone Group, and Wellington Management Group from the infobox to make the article more compliant with guidelines.

2. The following sentence can be updated, per [http://newsroom.hilton.com/assets/HWW/corporate/HLT.CorporateFactSheet-OCT2017FINAL.pdf this source]: "{{fontcolor|red|As of March 2017, its portfolio includes around 5,000 properties (including timeshare properties) with about 825,000 rooms in 103 countries and territories.}}"  The sentence should read, "{{fontcolor|green|As of September 2017, its portfolio includes approximately 5,100 properties (including timeshare properties) with nearly 838,000 rooms in 103 countries and territories.}}"<br>Here's markup for use as an inline citation: 
:: <small><nowiki><ref name="Fact sheet September 2017">{{Cite web|url=http://newsroom.hilton.com/assets/HWW/corporate/HLT.CorporateFactSheet-OCT2017FINAL.pdf |title=At-A-Glance September 2017 |accessdate=November 3, 2017|date=September 30, 2017|format=PDF|publisher=Hilton}}</ref></nowiki></small>

3. The same source can be used to update the number of Hilton Honor program members, within the "Hilton Honors" subsection. "{{Fontcolor|red|The program is one of the largest of its type, with about 65 million members}}" can be updated to "{{Fontcolor|green|The program is one of the largest of its type, with approximately 69 million members}}".
: ({{Ping|Altamel}} You've mentioned your dislike for the phrase "more than", so I made sure to use "about" and "approximately" in the above requests. Hopefully these updates seem reasonable to you and others.)

4. I propose adding mention of an additional recognition in the "Company culture" subsection, following the sentence "In 2016, Hilton was named one of the "World's 25 Best Multinational Workplaces" by ''Fortune'' and Great Place to Work." I suggest adding, "{{fontcolor|green|The company ranked number nine on the "World's Best Workplaces" list, which was published by the same magazine and Great Place to Work, in 2017.}}", per [http://fortune.com/2017/10/26/worlds-best-workplaces/ this source].<br> Here's markup for use as an inline citation:
:: <small><nowiki><ref>{{Cite journal|url=http://fortune.com/2017/10/26/worlds-best-workplaces/|title= The World's Best Workplaces|date=October 26, 2017|accessdate=November 3, 2017|work=Fortune}}</ref></nowiki></small>

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns regarding these 4 requests. Thank you! [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 16:23, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
:{{Ping|st170e}} You've helped with several edit requests for this article, so I figured I'd ping to see if you'd be wiling to help out again. If not, I'll try to find a WikiProject Companies member who may be willing to assist. Thanks for your consideration, [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 18:55, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

{{PImplemented}} '''<span style="border:2px solid;font-variant:small-caps">[[User:Spintendo|<span style="background:#00008C;color:white">&nbsp;Spintendo&nbsp;</span>]][[User talk:Spintendo|<span style="color:#00008C;background:#FF0000;">&nbsp;ᔦᔭ&nbsp;</span>]]</span>''' 13:56, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Spintendo}} Thank you for reviewing this edit request and for implementing the first three parts. As for the fourth part, does "peacock terms" apply when used in the name of the recognition itself, or is there a way to mention this recognition without using peacock wording? [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 15:43, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

::{{Ping|User:Inkian Jason}} Thank you for your question. In regards to Request #4, the information in the Fortune reference originated on GreatPlaceToWork.com. Under their [https://www.greatplacetowork.com/user-guidelines User Guidelines], it states, in part: {{tq|"You acknowledge that the Site contains the opinions and views of other users for which GPTW is not responsible. You acknowledge further that GPTW is not responsible for the accuracy of any User Content posted on the Site. You understand and agree that you shall evaluate, and bear all risks associated with the use of any User Content, including any reliance on the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of such User Content."}} 

::While the Fortune piece does state that GPTW collated the data for their survey ({{tq|"Fortune partner Great Place to Work surveyed employees in offices across the planet."}}) the information provided by GPTW does not reasonably assure a difference between an authority at GPTW as the single source of the information, or a simple user, as defined in their User Guidelines. Therefore, it cannot be stated with certainty that the information appearing in the Fortune piece is accurate. Without a testament to accuracy, terms such as ''World's Best Multinational Workplace'' become peacock terms, with no reliable authority backing their usage. Needless to say, the most reliable surveys are ones where the methadology used is subject to peer review. Wikipedia strongly suggests using surveys of this kind.<br>
::Regards,<br>
::'''<span style="border:2px solid;font-variant:small-caps">[[User:Spintendo|<span style="background:#00008C;color:white">&nbsp;Spintendo&nbsp;</span>]][[User talk:Spintendo|<span style="color:#00008C;background:#FF0000;">&nbsp;ᔦᔭ&nbsp;</span>]]</span>''' 19:21, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|Spintendo}} I assume most websites with user content in any form have that term, but I'm not sure it means that their own content may be user generated. The wording simply allows GPTW to not assume responsbility for comments made by other users. GPTW clearly defines between user content and its own content, so I'd like you to reconsider. {{Ping|Altamel|BarrelProof|Conifer}} Pinging you three, in case you care to weigh in, and since you've assisted with other edit requests on this talk page. Thank you, all. [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 19:32, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
::::{{Ping|Inkian Jason}}{{tq|"GPTW clearly defines between user content and its own content"}} It certainly wasn't made on the page where the information regarding the Hilton survey was shown. But perhaps I've overlooked something. Where does GPTW make this definition? Please advise. '''<span style="border:2px solid;font-variant:small-caps">[[User:Spintendo|<span style="background:#00008C;color:white">&nbsp;Spintendo&nbsp;</span>]][[User talk:Spintendo|<span style="color:#00008C;background:#FF0000;">&nbsp;ᔦᔭ&nbsp;</span>]]</span>''' 21:42, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
{{unindent}} I see where GPTW [https://www.greatplacetowork.com/best-workplaces/100-best expands upon the methadology used] in their surveys. Conversely, this [https://web.archive.org/web/20141219202208/http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/12/19/a-great-place-to-work-cant-be-found-on-lists/ New York Times piece] from three years ago puts it succinctly how GPTW surveys and those like it can be problematic. '''<span style="border:2px solid;font-variant:small-caps">[[User:Spintendo|<span style="background:#00008C;color:white">&nbsp;Spintendo&nbsp;</span>]][[User talk:Spintendo|<span style="color:#00008C;background:#FF0000;">&nbsp;ᔦᔭ&nbsp;</span>]]</span>''' 22:05, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
: Ok, if I understand correctly, the concern is that the survey for the ranking is not sound in its methodology so not appropriate here. In that case, I'll consider this request complete and closed. Thank you. [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 16:31, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

== Sourcing for the "Hilton in popular culture" section ==

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Hello, I am back with an additional edit request on behalf of Hilton. This time, I am providing sourcing for content in the "Hilton in popular culture" section, where there is currently a tag. I have provided markup below, and noted content changes further down in the edit request:

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[[File:BeverlyHilton01.jpg|thumb|The 671-room [[Beverly Hilton]] in Beverly Hills, California is home to the [[Golden Globe Awards]].  It has played host to other awards shows, including the Soap Opera Awards.]]

[[Keith Richards]] and [[Mick Jagger]] performed in the East Penthouse on the 45th floor of the [[New York Hilton]] on October 28, 1965.<ref>{{cite web|title=50 Years: New York Hilton Midtown|url=http://www.hiltonlibrary.com/Anniversary%20Brochure/HILTON%20NY_HISTORY%20BROCHURE_R2%20V3.pdf|publisher=Hilton|accessdate=December 15, 2017|format=PDF}}</ref> The piano they used still sits in that room today.

[[John Lennon]] and [[Yoko Ono]] honeymooned in the presidential suite at the [[Hilton Amsterdam]] where they hosted their famous "[[Bed-In]]" for a full week in 1969.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Adler|first1=Margot|title=After 40 Years, The Bed-In Reawakens|url=https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112082796|accessdate=December 15, 2017|publisher=NPR|date=August 25, 2009}}</ref>

In 1971, ''[[Diamonds Are Forever (film)|Diamonds Are Forever]]'' was filmed at the [[Westgate Las Vegas Resort & Casino|Las Vegas Hilton]].<ref>{{cite news|last1=Lawrence|first1=Christopher|title=When James Bond came to Las Vegas|url=https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/christopher-lawrence/when-james-bond-came-to-las-vegas-photos/|accessdate=December 15, 2017|work=[[Las Vegas Review-Journal]]|date=November 4, 2015|issn=1097-1645}}</ref>

On April 3, 1973, Dr. [[Martin Cooper (inventor)|Martin Cooper]] made the world's first cell phone call in front of the [[New York Hilton Midtown]]. A press conference was held at the hotel later that day to mark the milestone.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Kennedy|first1=Pagan|title=Who Made That Cellphone?|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/magazine/who-made-that-cellphone.html|accessdate=December 15, 2017|work=The New York Times|date=March 15, 2013}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|last1=Cheng|first1=Roger|title=The first call from a cell phone was made 40 years ago today|url=https://www.cnet.com/news/the-first-call-from-a-cell-phone-was-made-40-years-ago-today/|website=[[CNET]]|publisher=[[CBS Interactive]]|accessdate=December 15, 2017}}</ref>

''[[The Bodyguard (1992 film)|The Bodyguard]]'' with [[Whitney Houston]] and [[Kevin Costner]] was filmed at the Fontainebleau Hilton in Miami in 1992.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Diaz|first1=Johnny|title='The Bodyguard,' shot at Fontainebleau Miami Beach, turns 25|url=http://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/fl-fea-fontainebleau-miami-bodyguard-movie-album-20171031-story.html|accessdate=December 15, 2017|work=[[Sun-Sentinel]]|publisher=Tronc|date=October 31, 2017|issn=0744-8139}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|last1=Duran|first1=Jose D.|title=The Bodyguard: Whitney Houston's Moment Under the Miami Sun|url=http://www.miaminewtimes.com/arts/the-bodyguard-whitney-houstons-moment-under-the-miami-sun-6491980|accessdate=December 15, 2017|work=[[Miami New Times]]|publisher=[[Voice Media Group]]|date=February 14, 2012}}</ref>

In 1995, the [[James Bond]] movie ''[[GoldenEye]]'' was filmed at the [[Langham Hilton]].<ref>{{cite journal|last1=Smith|first1=Mark|title=Where to Vacation Like James Bond|journal=[[Condé Nast Traveler]]|date=November 9, 2012|url=https://www.cntraveler.com/galleries/2012-11-09/james-bond-hotel-stays-destinations-photos|accessdate=December 15, 2017|issn=0893-9683|publisher=[[Condé Nast]]}}</ref><ref>{{cite book|last1=Mourby|first1=Adrian|title=Rooms with a View: The Secret Life of Great Hotels|date=November 2, 2017|publisher=Icon Books|page=46|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=EuonDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT46&lpg=PT46&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false|accessdate=December 15, 2017}}</ref>

''[[The Insider (film)|The Insider]]'' was filmed in 1999 at the [[Seelbach Hilton]].<ref>{{cite news|last1=Pfeuffer|first1=Charyn|title=Bourbon, barbecue and a taste of history in Louisville|url=http://www.nhregister.com/travel/article/Bourbon-barbecue-and-a-taste-of-history-in-3230965.php|accessdate=December 15, 2017|work=[[New Haven Register]]|publisher=[[Hearst Communications]]|date=January 27, 2008}}</ref>

In 2006, several movies including ''[[Spider-Man 3]]'',<ref>{{cite news|title='Up in the Air' Grounds Hilton in Star-Power Marketing|url=http://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/air-grounds-hilton-star-power-marketing-106647/|accessdate=December 15, 2017|work=[[Adweek]]|issn=0199-2864|first=Noreen|last=O'Leary|date=November 9, 2009}}</ref> ''[[Michael Clayton (film)|Michael Clayton]]'' and ''[[American Gangster (film)|American Gangster]]'' were filmed at the New York Hilton.<ref>{{cite book|last1=Landau|first1=David|title=Lighting for Cinematography: A Practical Guide to the Art and Craft of Lighting for the Moving Image|date=July 10, 2014|publisher=A&C Black|page=134|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=A2SVAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA134&lpg=PA134&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false|accessdate=December 15, 2017}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal|title=Hilton New York|journal=[[New York (magazine)|New York]]|url=http://nymag.com/listings/hotel/hilton-new-york/|accessdate=December 15, 2017|issn=0028-7369}}</ref>

Conrad Hilton (played by actor [[Chelcie Ross]]) features as a major character in the third season of ''[[Mad Men]]'', as lead character [[Don Draper]] creates a series of ad campaigns for Hilton Hotels.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Galehouse|first1=Maggie|title=Mad Men nails its history|url=http://www.chron.com/life/article/Mad-Men-nails-its-history-1727172.php|accessdate=December 15, 2017|work=[[Houston Chronicle]]|publisher=Hearst Communications|date=October 11, 2009|issn=1074-7109}}</ref> The Drapers travel during one episode to the Cavalieri Hilton in Rome,<ref>{{cite news|title=Rome on film|url=http://www.ocregister.com/2011/10/09/rome-on-film/|accessdate=December 15, 2017|work=[[Orange County Register]]|publisher=[[Digital First Media]]|date=October 9, 2011|issn=0886-4934|oclc=12199155}}</ref> though the scenes were actually shot at the [[Dorothy Chandler Pavilion]] in Los Angeles.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Villarreal|first1=Yvonne|title='Mad Men's' final premiere event is a grand affair|url=http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-mad-men-premiere-dorothy-chandler-pavilion-20150326-story.html|accessdate=December 15, 2017|publisher=Tronc|date=March 26, 2015|issn=0458-3035|oclc=3638237}}</ref>

At the rotating wheel space station in [[Stanley Kubrick]]'s film ''[[2001: A Space Odyssey (film)|2001: A Space Odyssey]]'', visitors can stay at a Hilton hotel. Hilton's logo appears prominently in the space station's lounge.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Whitehouse|first1=David|title=Hilton to back space hotel|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sci/tech/293366.stm|accessdate=December 15, 2017|publisher=BBC News|date=March 9, 1999}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|last1=Novak|first1=Matt|title=What happened to Hilton's 'hotel on the Moon'?|url=http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20120712-where-is-hiltons-lunar-hotel|accessdate=December 15, 2017|publisher=BBC|date=November 18, 2014}}</ref>
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Content changes:
* Currently, the article says ''Diamonds Are Forever'' was filmed at [[Flamingo Hilton]]. However, according to sourcing, and the [[Westgate Las Vegas Resort & Casino]] article, the film was shot at [[Las Vegas Hilton]], so I've updated the sentence and link accordingly.
* Currently, the sentence about Martin Cooper mentions the "New York Hilton". I disambiguated the property by replacing with "New York Hilton Midtown" and added links to Wikipedia articles for both the property and Martin Cooper.
* For the sentence starting "In 2006, six movies...", I changed "six" to "several".

Finally, I should note, I was able to find a Hilton source to confirm the performance by Keith Richard and Mick Jagger. However, I struggled to find secondary coverage, and I am not sure about sourcing to confirm: "The piano they used still sits in that room today." I will let the reviewing editor decide if these sentences are worth keeping, or assist with finding appropriate sourcing.

If editors are comfortable replacing the current "Hilton in popular culture" section with the above markup, then I hope the tag that says "This section needs additional citations for verification" can be removed. Thanks again for your help. [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 19:38, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

::{{implemented}} Thank you for sourcing these. '''<span style="border:2px solid;font-variant:small-caps">[[User:Spintendo|<span style="background:#00008C;color:white">&nbsp;Spintendo&nbsp;</span>]][[User talk:Spintendo|<span style="color:#00008C;background:#FF0000;">&nbsp;ᔦᔭ&nbsp;</span>]]</span>''' 20:45, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|Spintendo}} Thanks for your help. I'm not sure I agree with removing the "External links" section, which almost all company articles have, but I won't press the matter and I appreciate you reviewing this request. [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 20:48, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

== Tipton - Popular culture? ==

[[The Suite Life of Zack & Cody]] is set in a "Tipton" hotel, an homage to the Hilton hotels. Like Hiltons, the Tipton hotels are an international chain; the series focuses on its Boston location, which the Hilton also has (Hilton Back Bay), and contains the character "London Tipton", a rich young woman parodying [[Paris Hilton]], both of whom have a true blood relation to their namesake hotel chain's founder.

Would this be a close enough connection to add to the Popular Culture section, or should the section only include instances of actual Hilton hotels? [[User:SomeGuyNamedDavid|SomeDee]] ([[User talk:SomeGuyNamedDavid|talk]]) 17:53, 8 July 2023 (UTC)