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== Section re-organisation needed? ==
I came to this article wanting to find out more about McGovern and in particular his 1972 presidential campaign, what policies he had beyond being dead set against the Vietnam war.   The problem I found is that the section about his campaign and candidacy is buried within the Senate years section.   For a while I actually couldn’t find it.  Seriously.  And if I have that problem, then you can bet that others will also have it.  Wouldn’t it be better to give the 1972 campaign its own section, rather than have it as a subsection?  Yes, that will necessitate subdividing his senate years, but although the campaign was not successful, surely, rightly or wrongly, he is far better remembered for being the democratic presidential candidate of 1972 than for his years in the senate.   Any objections? [[User:Boscaswell|<span style="color: green">Boscaswell</span>]] [[User talk:Boscaswell|<span style="color: maroon">talk</span>]] 21:55, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

:As the main contributor to this article, I am not in favor of moving that section.  The section on the campaign is not buried: it is clearly visible in the table of contents, it occurs in chronological order as the article progresses, and it takes up some 1,600 words and is thus not hiding.  And anyone doing a ctrl-F browser search for '1972' will find it on the fourth click.  As for your experience, we all miss things sometimes for whatever reason, but I haven't heard of others having this difficulty.

:And for what it's worth, the idea that McGovern should only be remembered for an initially successful but eventually disastrous presidential campaign is a notion that this article as a whole will hopefully dispel.  [[User:Wasted Time R|Wasted Time R]] ([[User talk:Wasted Time R|talk]]) 16:19, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

"60 Minutes included him in a 1971 report about liberal politicians and journalists who advocated integrated schooling while avoiding it for their children.[nb 10]" This sentence should be removed from the paragraph about the economy and inserted in a related paragraph (sorry I don't know wiki formatting, but I think this kind of fits here)  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C40:700:53A8:4055:AA17:A340:965C|2600:6C40:700:53A8:4055:AA17:A340:965C]] ([[User talk:2600:6C40:700:53A8:4055:AA17:A340:965C#top|talk]]) 18:35, 19 August 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== [Paragraphing] ==

"60 Minutes included him in a 1971 report about liberal politicians and journalists who advocated integrated schooling while avoiding it for their children.[nb 10]" This sentence should be removed from the paragraph about the economy and inserted in a related paragraph (sorry I don't know wiki formatting, but I think this kind of fits here)  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C40:700:53A8:4055:AA17:A340:965C|2600:6C40:700:53A8:4055:AA17:A340:965C]] ([[User talk:2600:6C40:700:53A8:4055:AA17:A340:965C#top|talk]]) 18:35, 19 August 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:There isn't a better place to move it to, given the current contents of that section.  But I have introduced a transition phrase to make that sentence seem less jarring from what came before it.  [[User:Wasted Time R|Wasted Time R]] ([[User talk:Wasted Time R|talk]]) 12:42, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

== Portrait vote  ==

[[User:HistorianL]]


Vote on the portrait used in the article. I believe that Photo 1, the current one, is better since it's in color, facing forwards, not an odd super-close crop of McGovern speaking; instead an actual portrait. I vote for '''Photo 1'''.

<gallery>
McGovern campaign portrait (cropped) (3x4).jpg|Photo 1
File:GeorgeStanleyMcGovern.jpg|Photo 2
</gallery> <span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,maroon,red,darkred,red,darkred,maroon); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">[[User:Mycranthebigman|'''Mycranthebigman''']]</span> of Alaska ^_^ 16:06, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

*'''Photo 2'''.  Looking at it, Photo 1 is a crop of a low-resolution crop of a cheesy campaign cut-and-paste – look at the visible outlines in the uncropped original.  By contrast, Photo 2 is a good image from a professional photographer and captures more of what McGovern actually looked like.  Neither is ideal for the top photo, but between the two, Photo 2 is the better choice.  [[User:Wasted Time R|Wasted Time R]] ([[User talk:Wasted Time R|talk]]) 16:27, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

:'''Photo 2:''' Photo 1 is a hastily made crop that was took from a random piece of McGovern campiagn material, with one of the only reasons of it staying up on the article is that it is a colored image. Sometimes a B&W image is a better choice over an colored image as the B&W image looks like a image that was taken by a professional photographer. As @[[User:Wasted Time R|Wasted Time R]] has stated, neither image is ideal for the infobox, but between the two images, Photo 2 gives off a better image of Sen. George McGovern [[User:HistorianL|HistorianL]] ([[User talk:HistorianL|talk]]) 17:44, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
:Vote over. Photo 2 wins 2-1. <span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,maroon,red,darkred,red,darkred,maroon); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">[[User:Mycranthebigman|'''Mycranthebigman''']]</span> of Alaska ^_^ 17:57, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

== Political affiliations ==

On the right sidebar, it would be appropriate to add his affiliation with the Progressive Party, since later in the article it states that he was a delegate to their national convention in 1948.

Proposed text:

Political party
Democratic
Other political affiliations
Progressive (1948) [[Special:Contributions/199.79.170.209|199.79.170.209]] ([[User talk:199.79.170.209|talk]]) 04:04, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

:{{Aye}} I'm in favor of this. <span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,maroon,red,darkred,red,darkred,maroon); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">[[User:Mycranthebigman|'''Mycranthebigman''']]</span> of Alaska ^_^ 09:12, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
:Added. <span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,maroon,red,darkred,red,darkred,maroon); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">[[User:Mycranthebigman|'''Mycranthebigman''']]</span> of Alaska ^_^ 05:53, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 7 April 2023 ==

{{edit semi-protected|George McGovern|answered=yes}}
Please fix the formatting of the infobox, specifically for the office of Ambassador to the United Nations Agencies for Food and Agriculture. The  ambassador_from1 and country1 parameters are used when really only the office1 parameter should be used (and would look better). Like so: 
{{collapse|{{Infobox officeholder
| image               = George McGovern (D-SD).jpg
| caption             = Official portrait, 1972
| jr/sr               = United States Senator
| state               = [[South Dakota]]
| term_start          = January 3, 1963
| term_end            = January 3, 1981
| predecessor         = [[Joseph H. Bottum]]
| successor           = [[James Abdnor]]
| office1             = [[United States Ambassador to the United Nations Agencies for Food and Agriculture]]
| president1          = {{plainlist|
* [[Bill Clinton]]
* [[George W. Bush]]
}}
| term_start1         = March 10, 1998
| term_end1           = September 28, 2001
| predecessor1        = Thomas A. Forbord
| successor1          = [[Tony P. Hall]]
| office2             = Chair of the [[United States Senate Select Committee on Nutrition and Human Needs]]
| term_start2         = July 1968
| term_end2           = December 1977
| predecessor2        = ''Committee established''
| successor2          = ''Committee abolished''
}}|Demonstration of infobox with change}}

Using the ambassador_from parameter as it is currently used in the article makes the infobox look too fat with the name of the office unnecessarily stretched out. Using a simple office parameter would fix this issue. [[Special:Contributions/195.99.8.32|195.99.8.32]] ([[User talk:195.99.8.32|talk]]) 03:54, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

:{{done}} [[User:Tollens|Tollens]] ([[User talk:Tollens|talk]]) 07:41, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Article should mention work with Bob Dole.  Bob Dole’s page mentions work with McGovern. [[Special:Contributions/98.169.13.85|98.169.13.85]] ([[User talk:98.169.13.85|talk]]) 16:14, 31 January 2025 (UTC)