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== Frybread ==

The article talks ''about'' frybread but fails to quickly define exactly ''What'' frybread is. ''After'' looking at ''this'' article, I learned more about what frybread was from the first sentence of a Chinese language recipe website than I did from the entire Wikipedia frybead article. :( — [[User:Imeriki al-Shimoni|<span style="color:#60d;font-weight:bold;text-shadow:3px 3px 2px #aaa;">al-Shimoni</span>]] ([[User talk:Imeriki al-Shimoni|talk]]) 03:48, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

==Merger Discussion==
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[[Wikipedia:Proposed mergers#MERGE REQUESTS|Request received to merge]] articles: [[Bannock (Indigenous American)]] into [[Frybread]]; dated: Nov/2021. Proposer's Rationale: {I've split off an article, [[Bannock (Indigenous American)]] from the more Scottish [[Bannock (food)]]. Looking at the content of the new page, however, there is a clear overlap with Frybread. I know that this will be a contentious topic, but it seems to me that there is no clear distinction, though of course there are varying recipes and nomenclature.  In particular, bannock seems more popular as a name in Canada, and frybread in the United States. To avoid unnecessary duplication, I therefore suggest merging the two articles to a new article, [[Frybread and Bannock]], with both the existing pages being redirects.  Thoughts?}. Discuss here. [[User:Vizjim|Vizjim]] ([[User talk:Vizjim|talk]]) 17:07, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' Ingredients might be similar but preparation and end results are different. [[User:Yuchitown|Yuchitown]] ([[User talk:Yuchitown|talk]]) 18:19, 15 November 2021 (UTC)Yuchitown
*'''Oppose''' I think I fall on the oppose side of this for now though I agree that a lot of the same wording is used in both articles to describe them both and would like to see further discussion on how to best improve and maybe differentiate both articles. --[[User:ARoseWolf|<span style="color:#b76e79">'''A'''</span><span style="color:#be4f60">'''Rose'''</span>]][[User talk:ARoseWolf|<span style="color:#b87333">'''Wolf'''</span>]] 18:53, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
::'''Comment''' The top results from Google [https://www.google.com/search?q=difference+between+bannock+and+frybread&rlz=1C1GCEA_enCY972CY972&oq=difference+between+bannock+and+frybread&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i13j0i390l4.6008j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8] suggest that there is no hard and fast distinction between the two, and that at least some people view them as interchangeable. Absent a definitive recipe/cooking method for either, how to tell?
*'''Oppose'''  Frybread is specifically a Reservation-era food that was created from commodities provided to tribes by the US Government.  Big difference.[[User:Montanabw|<span style="color: #006600;">Montanabw</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 04:23, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
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== Fry bread and torta frita ==

Fry bread and torta frita .. if they're identical how can it be that it's a native American food?.. this fry bread is basically all over the planet.. someone please explain that? [[Special:Contributions/174.83.241.168|174.83.241.168]] ([[User talk:174.83.241.168|talk]]) 01:44, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Flatbreads exist all over the world…but names differ…frybread, [[tortilla]], [[pancake]], whatever. They all get articles. [[User:Montanabw|<span style="color: #006600;">Montanabw</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 08:57, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

== Similar foods subsection ==

Is this subsection necessary. As there is the “List of fried dough foods” page [[User:IceCuba|IceCuba]] ([[User talk:IceCuba|talk]]) 20:24, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

== “ This article is about the American regional food. For other types of fried bread, see fried bread.” ==

No, it Covers fried bread and a number of other areas. And [[Fried bread]] is a stub mentioning the US and the UK. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 15:46, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

::Oh, I see we started here. It looks like the article needs to be trimmed of all the "varieties", or they could be moved into the similar foods section. They may be similar foods, but fry bread has a distinct history and culture. [[User:Valereee|Valereee]] ([[User talk:Valereee|talk]]) 12:41, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
:::I've done a bit of a rewrite and trim. I think we could still use a copyedit. [[User:Valereee|Valereee]] ([[User talk:Valereee|talk]]) 13:52, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
::::Thanks. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 13:55, 5 February 2023 (UTC)