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==Early text==
I added the infrastructure section, but I am not familiar with the infrastructure after [[Cheltenham railway station, Melbourne|Cheltenham]] station. -- [[User:B.d.mills|<SPAN STYLE="font-family:monospace; color:#006666; background-color:#ffff99; border-color:#ff0000; border-width:1px; border-style:solid; ">&nbsp;B.d.mills&nbsp;</SPAN>]] ([[User talk:B.d.mills|Talk]]) 22:10, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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== Note for page update ==

As this is one of the few services in Melbourne that runs the full lenght of the line (excluding an extension as the Stony Point service), there will need to be a few extra section added compared to the other Metro Trains Melbourne services.
*Both '''rail service''' and '''rail line''' infoboxes - '''service''' will cover important info regarding the current server while '''line''' will cover the physical line info not covered in the service one (eg former connection, line electrification dates, etc).
*Former stations - For stations where they aren't notable enough for their own page, they at supposed to be included on the rail line page. For other Melbourne services, this can be moved to the closed extended sections page (where the extended section is itself notable enough to have a separate page).
-- <b><span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">[[User:ThylacineHunter|ThylacineHunter]]</span></b> ([[User talk:ThylacineHunter#top|talk]]) 09:43, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

:The reason for this is that this page needs to be treated as a merged Frankston Metro Service page and a Frankston Railway Line page. Unlike some of the other Melbourne ones (eg [[Cranbourne railway line|Cranbourne Metro Service]] with the separate [[South Gippsland railway line]]). -- <b><span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">[[User:ThylacineHunter|ThylacineHunter]]</span></b> ([[User talk:ThylacineHunter#top|talk]]) 10:34, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
::Service infobox:
::# Name: Frankston Service - to distinguish it from the Frankston (Physical Track)
::# First service: 1 August 1882 - useful information
::# Length: the correct length according to Metro Trains Melbourne documentation of the electrified Frankston line is 43.230km
::# Average journey time: 1 hour 7 minutes (does not need "~" as it is already described as an average time)
::# Frequency: still need checking, I just copied previous info (I will check it with the official timetable when I get time later this week)
::# Former operator: [[Victorian Railways|Victorian Railways (VR)]] (1882–1974) - was only to Mordialloc in 1881 so not a Frankston service
::-- <b><span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">[[User:ThylacineHunter|ThylacineHunter]]</span></b> ([[User talk:ThylacineHunter#top|talk]]) 11:06, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
:Ok good idea. Make sure to also add the closed stations into the track map (different to the metro train service map) when you have some time. I'll then nominate it for GA status once this has been completed.  [[User:HoHo3143|HoHo3143]] ([[User talk:HoHo3143|talk]]) 09:20, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
::The route map is waiting on [[Template talk:Rail-interchange#Template-protected edit request on 7 February 2023]], apparently Stony Point didn't exist in the rail-interchange template. -- <b><span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">[[User:ThylacineHunter|ThylacineHunter]]</span></b> ([[User talk:ThylacineHunter#top|talk]]) 09:27, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
:::Interesting... hopefully they approve the edit soon. In the mean time, that's the map for the metro service- what about one for the rail line (example: [[Template:Cranbourne Line|Cranbourne Line]])? [[User:HoHo3143|HoHo3143]] ([[User talk:HoHo3143|talk]]) 09:35, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
::::Both are now done
::::*New Metro service map: [[Template:Frankston Metro Service]]
::::*New line map: [[Template:Frankston Line]]
::::--<b><span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">[[User:ThylacineHunter|ThylacineHunter]]</span></b> ([[User talk:ThylacineHunter#top|talk]]) 12:30, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

== no mention of the line being connected to the craigieburn line ==

as this is in important part of the line's future  I don't see why it has basically 0 mention in the article. Although it isn't comfirmed yet it should have some mentioning in the article probably like a sentence or two [[User:NotOrrio|NotOrrio]] ([[User talk:NotOrrio|talk]]) 22:10, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

:According to the PTV 2025 map that won't be the case. You also just wrote "although it may not be confirmed"?! [[User:HoHo3143|HoHo3143]] ([[User talk:HoHo3143|talk]]) 06:37, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
::@[[User:NotOrrio|NotOrrio]] I've just done a quick google search and nothing has come up- where have you heard this? [[User:HoHo3143|HoHo3143]] ([[User talk:HoHo3143|talk]]) 06:40, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
:::it won't be present in 2025 as the two lines being connected will happen in stage four of the [[Network Development Plan Metropolitan Rail]]. To clarify I saw this in the following pdf  [https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/PTV-default-site/footer/legal-and-policies/growing-our-rail-network-2018-2025/PTV_Network-Development-Plan_Metropolitan-Rail_Overview_2016update.pdf] uploaded to PTV [[User:NotOrrio|NotOrrio]] ([[User talk:NotOrrio|talk]]) 06:44, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
::::I've gone ahead and made a one sentence mention. [[User:HoHo3143|HoHo3143]] ([[User talk:HoHo3143|talk]]) 09:15, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
::corrected it to although it isn't comfirmed yet  as that was what i was trying to originally say [[User:NotOrrio|NotOrrio]] ([[User talk:NotOrrio|talk]]) 06:46, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

== Route maps have an error ==

Waiting on [[Template talk:Rail-interchange#Template-protected edit request on 7 February 2023]]. -- <b><span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">[[User:ThylacineHunter|ThylacineHunter]]</span></b> ([[User talk:ThylacineHunter#top|talk]]) 12:38, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

:This has now been fixed. -- <b><span style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: rgb(0, 35, 102); text-align: center; text-decoration: underline #FFD700;">[[User:ThylacineHunter|ThylacineHunter]]</span></b> ([[User talk:ThylacineHunter#top|talk]]) 13:33, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
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