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==Details of the article==
This page needs more context, the company is based in Hong Kong, is the train there also? is it a public train? Passenger, cargo? [[User:Cohesion|cohesion [[User_talk:Cohesion|&#9742;]]]] 06:52, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

The operating speed in many sections of the east rail line is limited to 50 in order to reduce noise pollution.  [[User:Peepeepoopoohydroxide|Peepeepoopoohydroxide]] ([[User talk:Peepeepoopoohydroxide|talk]]) 01:12, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

==Non-existing stations==
I removed the links to the non-existant train station articles as I don't think articles on individual train stations on this system can or will be encyclopedic, they were then added back. If you have any reason to think they are please post it here. [[User:Cohesion|cohesion [[User_talk:Cohesion|&#9742;]]]] 07:17, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

: This article itself is already NOT encyclopedic enough, but I think stations match the case since [[London Underground]] stations have their own entries too.  (Of course it would be better to make Hong Kong railway entries in Chinese version too, but there's not enough even generic entries.) [[User:Patrickov|Patrickov]] 09:23, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

==Intercity passenger and freight trains==
Intercity passenger and freight trains share some of the tracks with the East Rail. Do anyone know how many percent (%) of traffics on East Rail tracks are dedicated to local metro-like service? -- 14:43 January 25, 2005, UTC

==Headway, capacity, size, etc.==
Frequency (headway), capacity and size of rolling stocks, etc., are all available on web. Should these be added to the article, or a linked separate article, like what this [[Trains on the MTR|article]] has done? -- 14:45 January 25, 2005, UTC

==Freight stations==
To my understanding Hung Hom is the only station handling non-domestic passenger train services. How many freight train stations are there on the East Rail? I know there was one at Ho Man Tin, and there are freight facilities at Fo Tan and Sha Tin stations, and there is a track leading to the Sheung Shui Slaughterhouse. --14:49 January 25, 2005, UTC

== KCR/KCRC split ==
I personally believe that KCR should be split along the lines of [[MTR]] and [[MTR Corporation]], i.e., for the rail line articles, namely [[East Rail (KCRC)]], [[West Rail (KCRC)]] and the LRT article to talk about the history of the rail lines, and for the [[Kowloon-Canton Railway Corporation]] article to talk about the company itself. What do you think? My message is also on the individual talk pages.

Also, this page should probably be renamed [[KCR East Rail]] because this is how KCRC brands it.
[[User:Juntung|JuntungWu]] 15:53, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:A reply has been posted at [[User_talk:Juntung#Re:_KCR/KCRC_split]] &mdash; [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 20:53, Feb 6 2005 (UTC)

== TfD nomination of Template:{{ucfirst:East Rail infobox}} ==
[[Template:{{ucfirst:East Rail infobox}}]] has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:East Rail infobox|the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page]]. Thank you.<!-- Tfdnotice --> [[User:Slambo|Slambo]] [[User talk:Slambo|<small style="color:black;">(Speak)</small>]] 15:10, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

== History ==

{{ping|Citobun}} Should this article contain so much information about the KCR? It might make more sense to have most information up to 1996 in the [[Kowloon–Canton Railway]] article. [[User:Jc86035|Jc86035]] ([[User talk:Jc86035|talk]]) <small><span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;[[Template:Reply to|re]]&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;<br />to reply to me</span></small> 03:34, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

: Good point {{ping|Jc86035}}...there is kind of a confusing potential for overlap. To make matters worse, much of the railway's history is actually found in the [[Kowloon–Canton Railway Corporation]] article. Rather than 1996 I would be more inclined to make the cutoff closer to the double-tracking and electrification, which is when the railway became a real commuter line rather than a rural service. '''[[User:Citobun|Citobun]]''' ([[User_talk:Citobun|talk]]) 03:43, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
:: {{re|Citobun}} Maybe the information about the modernization could be in both KCR and this article? (If all three articles are restructured and sourced properly, they probably have a good chance at passing GA as well.) [[User:Jc86035|Jc86035]] ([[User talk:Jc86035|talk]]) <small><span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use &#123;&#123;[[Template:Reply to|re]]&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;<br />to reply to me</span></small> 13:49, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
:::The history of this railway is scattered across [[Guangzhou–Kowloon through train]]; [[East Rail line]]; [[Kowloon–Canton Railway]] and a few specific ones, like [[Beacon Hill Tunnel (Hong Kong)]].  It's a mess that badly needs rationalising. [[Special:Contributions/112.119.221.3|112.119.221.3]] ([[User talk:112.119.221.3|talk]]) 20:12, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

==Total Length of East Rail Line==
There are no official reference to indicate what's the total length of the rails is. Anyone can suggest an authentic data source? [[User:Pyll0|Pyll0]] ([[User talk:Pyll0|talk]]) 03:24, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

== Move discussion in progress ==

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== Proposed merge with [[East Rail line cross-harbour extension]] ==

The content of [[East Rail line cross-harbour extension]] could mostly be pasted directly into [[East Rail line]], given that the table (which is basically half the article) was copied from there anyway. The [[Sha Tin to Central Link]] article would be sufficient for a discussion of the extension's construction. [[User:Jc86035|Jc86035]] ([[User talk:Jc86035|talk]]) 18:42, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
:{{agree}}. -- [[User:Sameboat|Sameboat - 同舟]] ([[User talk:Sameboat|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sameboat|contri.]]) 01:18, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
* '''Support''' also per nominator. '''[[User:Citobun|Citobun]]''' ([[User_talk:Citobun|talk]]) 03:18, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
* '''Support''' as well. <span class="nowrap"><span style="border:2px solid; font-family:Trebuchet MS;"><span style="background:#ff0000;">[[User:Oshawott 12|<span style="color:#000;">Oshawott 12</span>]] ==(</span>)== [[User talk:Oshawott 12|Talk to me!]]</span></span> 02:34, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' Given it was another project, it had potential to be a separate stand-alone article which cover the legco debate or the news reporting regarding the POV of the citizens. However, i did not object to merge to this article, while putting the project background to [[WP:Article title]] such as <s>[[Shantin-Central line]].</s> [[:zh:沙中線]]. [[User:Matthew_hk|<span style="color:yellow; background-color:black;">Matthew_hk</span>]] [[User talk:Matthew_hk|''<span style="color: Blue;">t</span>'']][[Special:Contributions/Matthew_hk|''<span style="color: red;">c</span>'']] 03:05, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
::located in [[Sha Tin to Central Link]]. [[User:Matthew_hk|<span style="color:yellow; background-color:black;">Matthew_hk</span>]] [[User talk:Matthew_hk|''<span style="color: Blue;">t</span>'']][[Special:Contributions/Matthew_hk|''<span style="color: red;">c</span>'']] 03:07, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

{{Done}} Redirected; three table rows copied from [[Sha Tin to Central Link]] and the SCL map added. [[User:Jc86035|Jc86035]] ([[User talk:Jc86035|talk]]) 14:06, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

== The East Rail Line is technically a commuter rail system ==

I decided to edit part of the overview on The East Rail Line from Rapid Transit to Commuter Rail.

The East Rail line was originally built as a commuter rail system when it was still KCR and still functions like one.

This line travels from Kowloon to The New Territories and even up to Lo Wu close to the Chinese border. And it runs at grade in some areas.

Also the fact, The Tung Chung Line is also classified as commuter rail.

Even the rolling stock used for this line is difference from other rolling stock that functions as rapid transit including the colors used.

[[User:Themanilaxperience|Themanilaxperience]] ([[User talk:Themanilaxperience|talk]]) 07:01, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

:After the EAL extension, it would be more or less a rapid transit service, especially with the R trains and potential frequencies of 29 trains per hour. [[User:KeepElephant|KeepElephant]] ([[User talk:KeepElephant|talk]]) 01:23, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

There is a new train now (Hyundai rotem) it looks a lot like the other rolling stocks. [[User:Peepeepoopoohydroxide|Peepeepoopoohydroxide]] ([[User talk:Peepeepoopoohydroxide|talk]]) 01:08, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

== Name of page ==

Shouldn't it be called the 'East Rail Line', not 'East Rail line'? MTR prints the East Rail Line, or any other MTR Line, with a capital L. This is also prevalent with wikipedia pages for other MTR Lines.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:KeepElephant|KeepElephant]] ([[User talk:KeepElephant#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/KeepElephant|contribs]]) 01:28, 6 May 2022 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->