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== The ear in mammals has another vital function - to tell the brain to breathe. ==

In mammals the hair cells of the inner ear detect levels of carbon dioxide in the blood, and send this information to the brain. A loss of hair cells in the inner ear can cause death for this reason. Source: https://www.audiologyonline.com/releases/ears-may-hold-answers-to-4038  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/31.124.246.188|31.124.246.188]] ([[User talk:31.124.246.188#top|talk]]) 18:30, 29 August 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Would you want to add this to the article? [[User:Prophylax|Prophylax]] ([[User talk:Prophylax|talk]]) 14:05, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

== Hearing Hole ==

How come there is no section about infections of the ear?  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/108.23.105.146|108.23.105.146]] ([[User talk:108.23.105.146|talk]]) 03:18, 22 December 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Infections are mentioned briefly in some sections, but there are other pages for them. [[User:Prophylax|Prophylax]] ([[User talk:Prophylax|talk]]) 14:06, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks [[User:Heaven is mine|Heaven is mine]] ([[User talk:Heaven is mine|talk]]) 15:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)



Too painful.  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/195.59.199.204|195.59.199.204]] ([[User talk:195.59.199.204|talk]]) 11:58, 27 April 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== The "Invertebrate hearing organs" section ==

Why is the "This section requires expansion" tag present on the "Invertebrate hearing organs" section of the article? According to the section itself, "only vertebrate animals have ears." Assuming this to be correct, it tells me that, if anything, the section does not belong in this article at all! This article is about ears specifically, not hearing organs in general. Why would an almost-completely-off-topic section require expansion? --[[Special:Contributions/50.99.8.14|50.99.8.14]] ([[User talk:50.99.8.14|talk]]) 05:29, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
:Invertebrates have ears, just not in the human-centric sense popular decades ago. They simplest ears are the [[statocyst]]s found in jellyfish. The correspond to the inner ear in humans (sense of balance). They are part of the jellyfish ear/eye organ. In [[Bilateria]] eyes and ears slplit into separate organs, with ears including the lateral line system used by fish to detect pressure waves, as well as organs of hearing and balance. [[User:Zyxwv99|Zyxwv99]] ([[User talk:Zyxwv99|talk]]) 00:07, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

== Proposed merge with [[Ear embryology]] ==
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Can be readily integrated into main article; as it is stands as an orphan; if necessary can be re-expanded at a later date; would improve the quality of this article to have it in context, and the ear article would be enhanced by the additional information. [[User:LT910001|LT910001]] ([[User talk:LT910001|talk]]) 08:32, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
*There's no consensus that's emerged so I'm withdrawing this proposal. --[[User:LT910001|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:LT910001|talk]]) 23:13, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
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== Round window ==

Both [[:File:Anatomy of the Human Ear.svg]] and [[:File:Blausen 0328 EarAnatomy.png]] are used in the article. Both of these images document a "round window." I was wondering what the purpose of the round window was but the word "round" much less "round window" never appear in the article. --[[User:Marc Kupper|Marc Kupper]]&#124;[[User talk:Marc Kupper|talk]] 06:18, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
*Hi {{u|Marc Kupper}}, if you're still wondering (1+ months out), have a look at the article [[Round window]], and if that doesn't help, [[Middle ear]]. Cheers, --[[User:LT910001|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:LT910001|talk]]) 01:53, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
** Thank you {{u|LT910001}}. I had not realized we had an article for the round window. I have updated this article to incorporate mention of the round window and its membrane. --[[User:Marc Kupper|Marc Kupper]]&#124;[[User talk:Marc Kupper|talk]] 03:56, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

== Irrelevant Advertising ==

The final paragraph of Ear -> Structure -> Outer Ear is blatantly an advert. The first sentence or two contain information. The rest is plugging.  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Christopherreay|Christopherreay]] ([[User talk:Christopherreay|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Christopherreay|contribs]]) 14:14, 21 January 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I agree, it's promoting Valencell, and the final paragraph should be removed. It was added by {{User|CherryCoke027}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ear&diff=638354657&oldid=637548873 here], who also added [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Biometrics&diff=639232067&oldid=638211891 this] to [[Biometrics]]. —[[User:Bruce1ee|Bruce1ee]]<sup>[[User talk:Bruce1ee|''talk'']]</sup> 14:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
::Blatant spam, use of [[WP:YOU]] wording and also not true (pulse oximeters have been used in the earlobe for ages). The user mentioned above is writing about this all over the encyclopedia. Thanks for pointing this out [[User:Cristopherreay|Christopherreay]]. --[[User:Tilifa Ocaufa|Tilifa Ocaufa]] ([[User talk:Tilifa Ocaufa|talk]]) 14:44, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:::It looks like this has been removed. [[User:Prophylax|Prophylax]] ([[User talk:Prophylax|talk]]) 14:07, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

== Protection  ==

Why is this article protected?[[User:That man from Nantucket|That man from Nantucket]] ([[User talk:That man from Nantucket|talk]]) 06:32, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
:It is protected because it experiences a lot of vandalism from IP editors. As a user with an account, that shouldn't prevent you from making edits to improve the article, although edits that are not in good faith may be reverted. --[[User:LT910001|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:LT910001|talk]]) 22:36, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

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*Vestigiality of ears (e.g. muscle in human ear)
*Discuss creating a separate sub-article on [[human ear]]s so this article can stay focussed.the ear wax is also important thats how we get helicptres

== Clinical significance – infections? ==

I feel that the different types of [[otitis]] should at least be mentioned in the article. However, the Clinical significance section is already too long. What are other editor's opinions on this? --[[User:Tilifa Ocaufa|Tilifa Ocaufa]] ([[User talk:Tilifa Ocaufa|talk]]) 18:06, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
:Agree. A very reasonable suggestion and a big cause of morbidity. If the article is too long, we can always make it shorter by moving or removing some of the "Injury"-related material. --[[User:LT910001|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:LT910001|talk]]) 22:48, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
:I think it deserves to be mentioned in the article with links to separate pages for details. [[User:Prophylax|Prophylax]] ([[User talk:Prophylax|talk]]) 14:08, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

== Possible expansion of Society and culture section ==

Hi.
I normally do not work on Society and culture sections on anatomy articles but while reading this one something crossed my mind. Would it be appropriate to include a couple of sentences on "ears in fiction"? Something could be said about pointy ears being used to depict humanoid races in fiction such as [[Spock]] from [[Star Trek]] or [[elves]] in many movies and books such as [[Lord of the Rings]]. I am having trouble deciding if this is in any way relevant.
In the article [[skeleton]] we have a "In popular culture" section stating "''In Western culture, the skeleton is oftentimes seen as a fearful symbol of death and the paranormal. It is a popular motif in the holiday Halloween, as well as Day of the Dead.''"
All input is welcome. Kind regards [[User:JakobSteenberg|JakobSteenberg]] ([[User talk:JakobSteenberg|talk]]) 20:57, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
:Thanks @{{u|JakobSteenberg}}, I think that sounds like a great idea, after all anatomical articles do (rarely) have some social and cultural significance :P. We do in fact have an article [[Pointy ears]] here. I think as you suggest a statement about their general use in fiction is a good idea (as opposed to a list of pointy eared characters, which would be "trivia"). --[[User:LT910001|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:LT910001|talk]]) 22:07, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
::I tried copy pasting a section in directly from [[pointy ears]]. I think it works out; not to much or little. Thanks for your answer. [[User:JakobSteenberg|JakobSteenberg]] ([[User talk:JakobSteenberg|talk]]) 22:18, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

==Ear series template==
Cannot see the point in having this template displayed. Info in it is incomplete and all is included anyway in navbox. Doesn't seem to be any such template attached to other articles ? --[[User:Iztwoz|Iztwoz]] ([[User talk:Iztwoz|talk]]) 09:26, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
:Ah, another one of my ideas. The aim here was to have a small template with links to the main parts of the ear so readers can easily navigate, as opposed to a huge navbox with every article about ears linked. Am very happy for discussion/deletion if that's where consensus swings. At the moment the template is very outsized... maybe removing the image could help reduce its prominence, too. --[[User:LT910001|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:LT910001|talk]]) 10:23, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
::Thanks [[User:LT910001|Tom (LT)]] - removing the image is a good (first?) step!  imesho - would prefer to see that image used in main infobox and the one used for outer ear replaced by the labelled one on the auricle page. Cheers --[[User:Iztwoz|Iztwoz]] ([[User talk:Iztwoz|talk]]) 10:31, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

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== Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2019 ==

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Add the following video in the introductory section:
[[File:Journey of Sound to the Brain.ogg|thumb|How sounds make their way from the source to your brain]] [[User:Lauramanella|Lauramanella]] ([[User talk:Lauramanella|talk]]) 12:34, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

== 'Society and culture' section text alignment ==

Due to the positioning of an image on the 'Society and culture' section of this article, the text has been misaligned. I feel that this is a problem as it spoils the consistency of the article regarding text alignment in my opinion. [[User:Xboxsponge15|Xboxsponge15]] ([[User talk:Xboxsponge15|talk]]) 11:10, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

== Add data on: (overall/total) earcut/ototmisis/ωτότμησις/ωτότμηση as a punishment ==

ototmisis (earcut), pronunciation: /ɔːˈtɒ.tmi.sis/

== Images of Hitler and Trump ==

Hello @[[User:UpdateNerd|UpdateNerd]] -- I saw you [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ear&diff=next&oldid=1238958722 reverted my removal] of the images of Fred Trump and Adolf Hitler in this article.  Could you please explain why these images belong in the article?  I see no reference to either of those people in the article, and I do not understand the comparison being made between the two images.  Thank you. [[User:Cloud atlas|Cloud atlas]] ([[User talk:Cloud atlas|talk]]) 04:42, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
:The ''Uniqueness'' section cites a study under the ref "Ears as effective as DNA in identifying people", which notes that "the probability of two individuals having the same type of ear was 0.007." (That's 7 in 1000 or 1 in 142.) An expert quoted by the ref says, "the accuracy of uniqueness is very high. Ears are very unique for each person". This image is an example of two individuals with nearly matching ears despite the low odds. If you can find other famous examples with then I'd support a replacement, but it's hard to think of people that have been so well-covered photographically to produce clear profile shots. [[User:UpdateNerd|UpdateNerd]] ([[User talk:UpdateNerd|talk]]) 06:40, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you for explaining, @[[User:UpdateNerd|UpdateNerd]].  I think that what is problematic about the comparison is that it is essentially original research, and therefore a violation of [[Wikipedia:No original research|WP:NOR]].  You have not included a reliable source that explicitly points out a similarity between the ears of Fred Trump and Adolf Hitler, and therefore, I think that the assertion of them being similar is based on your own assessment of their ears, which is original research on your part (the research being a comparison of people with similar ears).  Do you see what I mean?
::And by putting this comparison together of these people, Adolf Hitler and Fred Trump, I think it insinuates a connection or similarity between the two that is politically meaningful, when the content of the article is not about politics at all. [[User:Cloud atlas|Cloud atlas]] ([[User talk:Cloud atlas|talk]]) 21:52, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
:::Agree. Whatever your opinion of these two birds-of-a-feather, the ear comparison is OR and serves no encyclopedic purpose in this article. [[User:Ewulp|Ewulp]] ([[User talk:Ewulp|talk]]) 00:37, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:UpdateNerd|UpdateNerd]] -- having not heard from you in a couple days, I removed the photos again on grounds that they are original research.  Please let me know if you want to discuss further, and if so, we may have to get the opinions of other editors. [[User:Cloud atlas|Cloud atlas]] ([[User talk:Cloud atlas|talk]]) 04:39, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

== Structure - potential error in 'Inner ear' subsection ==

The 2nd sentence of the 2nd paragraph in the 'Inner ear' subsection of the 'Structure' section says "The inner ear structurally begins at the oval window, which receives vibrations from the incus of the middle ear." However, by my understanding it is the stapes, not the incus, which pushes on the oval window. [[User:PeterOut101|PeterOut101]] ([[User talk:PeterOut101|talk]]) 17:06, 5 December 2024 (UTC)