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== Black Metal == 

Spotify say that they play black metal and the genres come from allmusic, so its sourced.  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Chriistianwestman|Chriistianwestman]] ([[User talk:Chriistianwestman|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chriistianwestman|contribs]]) 12:40, 6 December 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Speed Metal?! Scrubs shouldn't count as a citation...  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.151.103.53|86.151.103.53]] ([[User talk:86.151.103.53|talk]]) 14:28, 21 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==GA nomination on hold==
Please leave me a [[user talk:Dihydrogen Monoxide|note]] when you've dealt with the issues listed below.  Cheers, [[User talk:Dihydrogen Monoxide|<span style="color:#12A434;">'''Dihydrogen Monoxide'''</span>]] <sup>[[Portal:Music of Australia|♫]]</sup> 23:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

*The website (URL) section of the infobox shouldn't read "devildriver.com", but should instead read as the full URL (http://www.devildriver.com/).  Precedent: [[Powderfinger]] (in fact, that's my precedent for everything :P)
*Image caption could do with a wlink for Ozzfest, and a specific date.  Nice image btw. :D
:''The image doesn't have a specific date, so i can't add it''
*"Coal Chamber vocalist Dez Fafara was not happy with the direction Coal Chamber was going in musically." - This sentence makes very little sense in the context of what's been said so far. Merging it with the next sentence will clarify things a bit.
*"The band's self-titled album was not well received by music critics." - might wanna wlink to the album somewhere in this sentence
*"Fafara hosted many barbecues..." - Don't use "many", perhaps "numerous" or "several"
*"and gave him his number for a jam session" - Phone number, right? Clarify...
*"Fafara thought it was cool because it sounded 'evil'" --> "Fafara thought it appropriate because it sounded 'evil'"?
*Wlink or something for the Cross of Confusion?
*Are there any other reviews for the first album (other than All Music Guide's)?
*"Produced at Sonic Ranch Studios, a 14000 acre pecan ranch, 200 miles away from El Paso, Texas." - Start this sentence with "The album was" or something like that, otherwise it's meaningless.
*If you're going to give a precise sales figure (eg. 10,402), you have to say when it was taken, as there's a 99% chance it's no longer relevant.
:''Added the sales were taken in the first week''
*"and that the band made their "true debut the second time around"." - you'll need a verb here, how about "and said that the band made their "true debut the second time around"."?
*Ref 16 needs an accessdate and other formatting
*"The band played for the first time as headliners in the Burning Daylight Tour." - Headliners --> Headline act (etc.)
*"DevilDriver released their third studio effort titled The Last Kind Words, which was released on 16 June and 19 June 2007, in Australia and the United Kingdom respectively, and 31 July in the United States." -Suggesting reword too..."DevilDriver released their third studio album The Last Kind Words on 16 June 2007 in Australia, and 19 June 2007 in the United Kingdom.  It was released in the United States on 31 July 2007.
*"and number 48 on the Billboard 200," --> "and reached number 48 on the Billboard 200" - also add a wlink for the Billboard 200.
*Ref 23 probably isn't relevant any longer - see if you can find a relevant version on the web archive (or ask me if you don't know why...)
*"DevilDriver's songs "Devil's Son" and "Driving Down the Darkness" were featured in the TV show Scrubs." - When? Why? Any more details?
*Are there any influences noted for Spreitzer or Kendrick?
:''I looked but found nothing, the vocalist does almost all the interviews''
*Billboard 200 is wlinked to twice in the discography section.

;Other, non GA related comments
*Someone please create the [[John Boecklin]] article!
*It seems an [[Evan Pitts]] article exists, yet he's not wlinked to in {{tl|DevilDriver}} or in the "band members" section.  Investigate?
:''It's a redirect to DevilDriver, only content the article had was Pitts is the guitarist for DD''
*The band's singles are considered notable, so articles can be created for them.
*If another album is released (or, indeed, now), a [[DevilDriver discography]] list would be appropriate.  The discography section can then be formatted the way [[Powderfinger#Discography]], [[The Corrs#Discography]], etc. are.
:''Will do after an album and DVD is released.'' 

Reviewed version: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DevilDriver&oldid=175696666]

Good luck, [[User talk:Dihydrogen Monoxide|<span style="color:#12A434;">'''Dihydrogen Monoxide'''</span>]] <sup>[[Portal:Music of Australia|♫]]</sup> 23:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
:I have made all the appropriate fixes, thanks for the review. [[User:M3tal H3ad|M3tal H3ad]] ([[User talk:M3tal H3ad|talk]]) 02:44, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::And it passes. Might wanna create articles for the singles one of these days... [[User talk:Dihydrogen Monoxide|<span style="color:#12A434;">'''Dihydrogen Monoxide'''</span>]] <sup>[[Portal:Music of Australia|♫]]</sup> 06:34, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

== WTF @ genres ==
Can we please stop editing the genre. Devildriver are groove metal and that is all, they may have elements of other genres but not enough to make them be a part of that genre.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/122.104.79.39|122.104.79.39]] ([[User talk:122.104.79.39|talk]]) 00:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Devildriver may have groove metal elements but I would never call them death metal or melodeath.  Devildriver is pretty much metalcore with some nu metal elements mixed in.  I don't have a problem with the groove metal label, though I think it's a stretch mostly.  However Devildriver ''is'' metalcore.  And they're definitely '''not''' death or melodic death metal. [[User:Navnløs|<b><span style="color:#0066CC;">Blizzard Beast</span></b>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Navnløs|<span style="color:#666666;"><i>$ODIN$</i></span>]]</sup></small> 23:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

::Further more, you cannot use metal-archives as a source, which has already been determined.  And if you do choose to use it as a source did you people conveniently forget to notice that the page says nu metal as well?? So if you're gonna use that citation then put in nu metal. [[User:Navnløs|<b><span style="color:#0066CC;">Blizzard Beast</span></b>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Navnløs|<span style="color:#666666;"><i>$ODIN$</i></span>]]</sup></small> 00:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

:::nu metal elements? LOL dunno where you got that idea from. devildriver ftw! \m/  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/58.161.132.1|58.161.132.1]] ([[User talk:58.161.132.1|talk]]) 23:55, 1 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

::::Nu Metal?  So you're saying DevilDriver sounds like Korn, Disturbed, and System of a Down?  I'm sorry but I fail to see any similar elements other than they all have a guitarist.  I don't know if I could call DevilDriver MeloDeath however.  They're also much much too technical to be Metalcore --[[User:Deathwish238|Deathwish238]] ([[User talk:Deathwish238|talk]]) 17:49, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Technicality has nothing to do with them being metalcore. And I never said they were nu metal, only that metal archives calls their early stuff nu metal or "mallcore" actually. [[User:Navnløs|<b><span style="color:#0066CC;">Blizzard Beast</span></b>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Navnløs|<span style="color:#666666;"><i>$ODIN$</i></span>]]</sup></small> 21:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

::I'm sorry, what kind of metal are you listening to that makes you think that they are metalcore? I don't hear any breakdowns, I don't hear any melodic guitar parts, I don't hear any "clean" singing whatsoever, so how in the world are they metalcore? I do however hear pretty harsh vocals, groovish/ heavy guitar riffs, and bluesy solos which are all groove metal traits and i think they should be labeled strictly as groove metal if you want to label them at all. Their old stuff wasn't even close to nu-metal either, Dez was in a nu-metal band before Devildriver but the whole reason why he started Devildriver was to get away from nu-metal so i really doubt that he wanted his new band to be nu-metal. They aren't metalcore either and to be honest I'm sick of everyone labeling any modern metal band that has the slightest bit of hardcore influence as "metalcore" because it's getting to the point where just about everyone is labeled (and most of the time falsely labeled) as metalcore because everyone is so hardcore-obsessed these days. --[[User:Snook666|Snook666]] ([[User talk:Snook666|talk]]) 21:57, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
:::It can't be helped. We must do as the sources say. [[User:Navnløs|<b><span style="color:#0066CC;">Blizzard Beast</span></b>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Navnløs|<span style="color:#666666;"><i>$ODIN$</i></span>]]</sup></small> 18:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Anyway, they sort of are a combination of groove metal and metalcore, the style of the band Lamb of God, which I must say, they are very close in style to. Your thoughts on this would be much appreciated. [[User:Metalhead of the East|MOTE]] [[User talk:Metalhead of the East|Speak to me]] 10:52, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

==Melodic Death recent==
First of all I just want to thank whoever got rid of the bullshit genres, and I put recent by Melodic Death Metal in the genre section because I think the only album with Melodic Death elements is [[The Last Kind Words]]. I hope that's alright with everyone.  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Snook666|Snook666]] ([[User talk:Snook666|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Snook666|contribs]]) 01:30, 1 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

I don't what your classification of "bullshit genres" is, but if the genres are sourced, then they can be added, or if you have definite consensus with other editors. [[User:Metalhead of the East|MOTE]] [[User talk:Metalhead of the East|Speak to me]] 10:48, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

No I disagree I think every album except the first has Melodic Death Metal elements, there is alot of death growls in The Fury of Our Makers hand which is their second album.[[Special:Contributions/86.134.210.29|86.134.210.29]] ([[User talk:86.134.210.29|talk]]) 22:26, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

== editing citation -- genre ==

I'm going to remove the citation in the genre box listing the band as "death metal".  The citation in question comes from MusicMight.  The only times the term "Death metal" are used on the page are in a "view gallery" link along with the tags 'alternative metal,' and 'thrash metal', and in the band's biography box.  The biography says quote: "Far removed from the Nu metal cliches of his former outfit, Devildriver presented a much harder proposition with a keen eye towards '''death metal'''."  This basically says that they took a "swing" at death metal, but are not necessarily part of that genre.  [[User:Zaruyache|Zaruyache]] ([[User talk:Zaruyache|talk]])  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 23:14, 9 July 2009 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

DevilDriver is an American Metalcore band from Santa Barbara, California, formed in 2002 BULLSHIT there a groove and death metal band not a metalcore band ([[User:Seth4000|Seth4000]] ([[User talk:Seth4000|talk]]) 17:38, 21 August 2009 (UTC))

== Metalcore ==

DevilDriver is an American Metalcore band from Santa Barbara, California, formed in 2002 BULLSHIT there a groove and death metal band not a metalcore band ([[User:Seth4000|Seth4000]] ([[User talk:Seth4000|talk]]) 17:38, 21 August 2009 (UTC))
:Agreed - it was changed earlier today in what seemed to be an obvious case of genre trolling. I've reverted it, thanks. ~ [[User:Mazca|<span style="color:#228b22;">'''m'''a'''z'''c'''a'''</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Mazca|talk]]</sup> 18:23, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Metalcore and groove metal. As are Chimaira and Lamb of God, both of whom are very similar.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.205.132.22|71.205.132.22]] ([[User talk:71.205.132.22|talk]]) 06:03, 16 September 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Genre==

As far as I know, DevilDriver are primarily Groove metal, with strong influences taken from Melodic death metal and Thrash metal. I guess I might be willing to accept that there are elements of metalcore in their music, but I probably wouldn't have said so myself. If people post that they're hardcore-influenced, I suppose it wouldn't bother me so long as they provided valid citations. But they are most definetly not nu metal, of that we can all be certain.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.140.131.196|86.140.131.196]] ([[User talk:86.140.131.196|talk]]) 17:12, 6 January 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->



Metalcore is Killswitch Engage, Bullet For My Valentine, etc... Devildriver sounds nothing like that, those who actually listen to them should know this.  And.. one of their influences is IN FLAMES, thats where the Melodic Death Metal talk comes from, early In Flames work was melodic death metal.  and If you listen to all of devildrivers albums, they have songs that fit into that category.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/174.48.60.221|174.48.60.221]] ([[User talk:174.48.60.221|talk]]) 15:11, 11 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Their New Album is nearly finished in the recording process according to Jeff Kendrick's Facebook account, might want to find some sources to add this information regarding their new album.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/174.48.60.221|174.48.60.221]] ([[User talk:174.48.60.221|talk]]) 05:46, 15 May 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Picture description ==

It says Devildriver in August 2013. What, in the name of God's green world made it possible to appear from one month distinct near future in this late June/Early July timeline?
A silly but pathetic mistake is made.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/27.147.168.168|27.147.168.168]] ([[User talk:27.147.168.168|talk]]) 12:51, 1 July 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:{{fixed}}, thanks. — '''''[[User:Richard BB|<span style="color:#8000FF;">Richard</span>]] [[User talk:Richard BB|<span style="color:#8000FF;">BB</span>]]''''' 12:55, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

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