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== Field template ==

On 16 August I added the template {{tl|Linguistics}} to this page, reasoning that the topic relates to several sub-fields within linguistics (e.g. sociolinguistics, syntax, phonology, language acquisition). On 17 August Stevertigo replaced that template with {{tl|sociolinguistics}}, presumably reasoning that it is more specific and therefore more appropriate. Stevertigo did not use an edit summary, but did comment at [[User talk:Cnilep/Archive/11 September 2010#Article integration]]. See also a related discussion at [[Talk:Code-mixing]].

Do other editors have an opinion on which template is most appropriate for this page? [[User:Cnilep|Cnilep]] ([[User talk:Cnilep|talk]]) 15:00, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:I think {{tl|sociolinguistics}} is appropriate. It's true that code switching/mixing are relevant to other fields of linguistics too, as you said on your talk page, but really only to the extent that those fields interact with socio. The phenomena are ''primarily'' related to socio and only secondarily to the other fields. +[[User:Angr|'''An''']][[User talk:Angr|''gr'']] 15:37, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
::I agree with Angr.[[User:Maunus|·Maunus·<span class="Unicode">ƛ</span>·]] 15:39, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
::Ditto. — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 20:47, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Not to beat a dead horse (the 'Sociolinguistics' template has been in place for over a month now), but the recently published ''Cambridge Handbook of Linguistic Code-Switching'' ({{ISBN|9780521875912}}) offers evidence counter to the assertion that code-switching is primarily a sociolinguistic topic. I've not read the volume yet, but I notice that it has five parts of which only one (Part 2, Social aspects of code-switching) is primarily sociolinguistic. Part 3, The structural implications of code-switching, and Part 5, Formal models of code-switching, each deal with aspects of grammar, especially syntax. Part 4 is Psycholinguistics and code-switching. Part 1, Conceptual and methodological considerations in code-switching research, appears to be a general introduction. [[User:Cnilep|Cnilep]] ([[User talk:Cnilep|talk]]) 22:30, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

: In view of the evidence adduced above by  {{u|Cnilep}}, I have re-added the [[Template:Linguistics]] field template and linked the edit comment to this section. Please {{Tn|Ping}} me to discuss. --[[User:Thnidu|Thnidu]] ([[User talk:Thnidu|talk]]) 01:23, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

==code switching in india==

I'm quite sure that code-switching is most common not in the countries mentioned, but in India. Here in India in all the cities  code-sitch between the state language and English. eg. Hinglish in Delhi, Benglish in Kolkata etc.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/110.224.239.132|110.224.239.132]] ([[User talk:110.224.239.132|talk]]) 05:48, 14 November 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Code switching is common throughout the world - certainly also in India, but unlikely that it is more so than elsewhere.[[User:Maunus|·ʍaunus]]·[[User talk:Maunus|snunɐw·]] 22:08, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
:: [[Salman Rushdie]], somewhere in his writing, said that in what was then Bombay, where he grew up, they jokingly said they spoke "HUGME", a mixture of Hindi, Urdu, Gujarati, Malayalam, and English, sometimes with words from all 5 languages in the same sentence.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/138.123.68.64|138.123.68.64]] ([[User talk:138.123.68.64|talk]]) 00:49, 5 March 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::Bilingual immigrants to Britain of Punjabi descent and their descendents code-switch between English and Punjabi all the time when speaking to each other. They will happily switch to straight English when conversing with someone with a different background. --[[User:Ef80|Ef80]] ([[User talk:Ef80|talk]]) 20:33, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

:I think code-switching occurs throughout the world, but maybe more so in places where there are multiple local languages being spoken by the people. India is definitely a great example but we can also talk about Indonesia, and several countries in Africa such as Nigeria --[[User:Gulf Peninsula|Gulf Peninsula]] ([[User talk:Gulf Peninsula|talk]]) 6:50, 01 Nov 2020 (UTC)

== Code-switching in politics ==

I understand somewhat why this wouldn't fit in this article since the term, when applied in a political context, strays from the strict linguistic definition.  That said, it is still the same basic use of the term, just applied in a specific context.  Monica Heller, who is cited in this article, has written about it extensively.  The whole last paragraph of the lead section talks about alternate uses of the term from the standard linguistic definition, so I'm not sure why the political use wouldn't fit there. - [[User:Maximusveritas|Maximusveritas]] ([[User talk:Maximusveritas|talk]]) 15:54, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

:As to why "the whole last paragraph" fits the standard linguistic definition, see [[Talk:Code-switching/Archive July 2016#AAVE as "register shift"]]. Publications in the fields of applied linguistics and sociolinguistics call the switch from African American English to Standard American English "code-switching". Use of the term in literary criticism is more tenuously connected to its use in linguistics, but scholarly publications are at least cited. 

:If Professor Heller or others make the case that politicians' shifts in stance are code-switching in this sense, then by all means cite those publications. I suspect, though, that a better fit is [[Stance (linguistics)]], <s>which is currently a non-existent page cited from [[Appraisal (discourse analysis)]]</s>. See, for example, {{Cite journal|last=Lempert|first=Michael|year=2009|title=On 'flip-flopping': branded stance taking in U.S. electoral politics|journal=Journal of Sociolinguistics|volume=13|issue=2|pages=223-48}} [[User:Cnilep|Cnilep]] ([[User talk:Cnilep|talk]]) 23:37, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

The political sense of the term is the one that I (not a linguistics professional) encounter most often, and I came to this article hoping to read about it. Racist or anti-Semitic (etc.) statements may be so covered in habitual euphemism that the person speaking may be sincerely convinced that what he's saying isn't racist or anti-Semitic (etc.), since he isn't using any "forbidden" vocabulary, so that the code switching may even affect the speaker's own self-awareness. But strained circumlocutions (e.g. saying "member of the [whatever] community" when you clearly wish that you "could" say something else) can be potent indicators in themselves, and a person may speak differently on the same topic if he thinks that none of "them" are around. (I have sometimes been around when it was apparently not realized that I was one of "them" ...) [[User:DSatz|DSatz]] ([[User talk:DSatz|talk]]) 17:57, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

:I've seen several journalists describing politicians who adapt different speaking styles, which [http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2010/01/code_black.html Slate], for example, calls "Code-switching—or code-mixing, or style-shifting" Some writer deride this as inauthentic (though, as Slate points out, everybody does it). I have therefore cited a scholarly paper about perceptions accent and style shifting in politics – one that specifically calls it "code-switching" on page 341.
:Monica Heller's work on "The politics of codeswitching" is about literal code-switching between French and English (and sometimes other languages), and how this is taken up in Canadian politics. I assume "the political sense of [''code-switching'']" means the former rather than the latter, right? [[User:Cnilep|Cnilep]] ([[User talk:Cnilep|talk]]) 04:04, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

== CMS UA ==

I know that Carol Myers-Scotton uses a lot of initialisms such as ''CS'' for "code switching" and ''ML'' for "matrix language", and I know that some of the scholars follow her in this usage. It is, however, confusing for non-experts to encounter text dense with such abbreviations. [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Abbreviations]] urges consistency throughout an article. The style guide also suggests, "Always consider whether it is better to simply write a word or phrase out in full, thus avoiding potential confusion". I would recommend spelling out most, if not all of the labels from Myers-Scotton's work, even where she does not. (Oh, and just in case the heading of this section is unclear, it refers to "Carol Myers-Scotton's use of abbreviations".) [[User:Cnilep|Cnilep]] ([[User talk:Cnilep|talk]]) 00:45, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
:{{ping|Cnilep}} Well, I just appended "(MLF)" to the first mention of "Matrix-Language Frame". I'll see what else ... --[[User:Thnidu|Thnidu]] ([[User talk:Thnidu|talk]]) 06:30, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

== Criticism section ==
{{U| I dream of horses}} just added the [[Template: Criticism section]] headnote to § [[Code-switching#Grammatical theories|Grammatical theories]]. ISTM that a more nuanced criticism is justified.

The only subsection I'd accuse of NPOV violation is ''Matrix language-frame model''. That one is so long it seems to overshadow the others; it contains enough detail to warrant a separate article and should be significantly trimmed.

And then, the criticisms are scattered. ''Poplack's model'' -- or Sankoff and Poplack's model, depending on which paragraph you consult; where does Sankoff come in? -- is the only subsection to include criticisms of the theory, while Joshi's Closed-class Constraint and Belazi et al.'s Functional Head Constraint are relegated to ''Controversies''. All these seriously cry out for conscious and conscientious rewriting. 

Please {{Tn|Ping}} me to discuss. --[[User:Thnidu|Thnidu]] ([[User talk:Thnidu|talk]]) 02:17, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
:{{reply to|Thnidu}} My main concern is that there are criticisms categorized under one section header, Generally speaking, they need to go throughout the article to make it more neutral. --<span style="border:1px solid #ffa500;background:#f3dddd;">&nbsp;[[User:I dream of horses|I dream of horses]]&nbsp;</span><span style="border:1px solid #ffa500">{{small|&nbsp;If you reply here, please [[WP:ECHO|ping me]] by adding <nowiki>{{U|I dream of horses}}</nowiki> to your message&nbsp;}}</span>  {{small|([[User talk:I dream of horses|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/I dream of horses|My edits]])}} @  05:18, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
:: {{ping|I dream of horses}} No disagreement there! But a rewrite should also cover my other issues: Sankoff, Joshi, and Belazi+'s treatment, and the bloatedness of Myers-Scotton's (Matrix Language-Frame model), which is not only bloated but very hard to read. I'm working on that now.) --[[User:Thnidu|Thnidu]] ([[User talk:Thnidu|talk]]) 07:27, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

== Nairobi? ==

The second set of examples in § [[Code-switching#Matrix language-frame model|Matrix language-frame model]] doesn't specify the language being switched with English. The text refers to it as "Nairobi", but there is no such language.<ref>{{cite web|title=search results for Nairobi|url=http://www.ethnologue.com/search/search_by_page/Nairobi|website=Ethnologue|publisher=[[SIL International]]|accessdate=12 June 2016}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|title=Nairobi  - Frequently Asked Questions from the CMF website|url=http://www.tctcinfo.com/files/Downloads/Missions/Nairobi%202010%20FAQ%20from%20CMF.doc|website=Tennessee Christian Teen Convention|accessdate=12 June 2016|quote=What language do they speak in Nairobi? ... In Nairobi there are many languages spoken because people from the different tribes live there, so to communicate with each other they usually speak Swahili or English.}}</ref> Swahili seems the likeliest, and applying Google Translate to a section of example #2 supports that.<ref>{{cite web |title=Translate: Detect language → English |url= https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/Nikamwambia%20anipe%20ruhusa%20niende |website=Google Translate |publisher=Google |accessdate=12 June 2016}}</ref> I'm editing accordingly. --[[User:Thnidu|Thnidu]] ([[User talk:Thnidu|talk]]) 07:05, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

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== Non-verbal code-switching ==

I removed this sentence: "Like verbal code-switching, non-verbal code-switching can provide contextualisation cues."

The sentence cited Pahta and Nurmi (2009). That piece defines code-switching as "an umbrella term to refer to any identifiable changes from one language to another within a communicative episode". Their intent, as I understand it, is to include historical letters as "communicative episodes" that can feature code-switching. They do not suggest non-verbal code-switching as far as I can see. They do write, "we can speak of code-switching as a contextualisation cue, as one of the many linguistic or non-verbal procedures which can be used for signalling contextual presuppositions". But I take it that they mean ''contextualization cues'' – not code-switching – can be non-verbal. [[User:Cnilep|Cnilep]] ([[User talk:Cnilep|talk]]) 03:32, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

== Intro section organization ==

In the intro section, there are three full paragraphs about the linguistics usage of the term before we get to everyday usage of the term.  Should this be reorganized, perhaps to put the everyday usage first then all the linguistics, or else linguistics paragraph 1, then everyday, then linguistics 2 and 3?  --[[User:Zandperl|zandperl]] ([[User talk:Zandperl|talk]]) 16:40, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

:The rest of the article is about linguistics. As a general rule, [[MOS:LEAD|Lead sections]] should reflect article content. The disambiguation page, named in the hatnote, can help readers find the Code Switch blog or literature using multiple languages. [[User:Cnilep|Cnilep]] ([[User talk:Cnilep|talk]]) 00:06, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

== Code switch weights and measures. ==

We British switch weights and measure, metric and imperial all the time; is this considered code switching by linguists?  If so should this be covered by the article?  It actually seems very similar to me and this page came up when search for the proper phrase to describe this.  [[Special:Contributions/185.6.155.248|185.6.155.248]] ([[User talk:185.6.155.248|talk]]) 12:06, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
: It's an interesting phenomenon! But no, it's not code-switching in the linguistic sense. [[User:Pathawi|Pathawi]] ([[User talk:Pathawi|talk]]) 05:59, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

== Remote work ==

[https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20210119-why-its-hard-for-people-of-colour-to-be-themselves-at-work] discusses code-switching making remote work more difficult.  [[Special:Contributions/2601:648:8202:96B0:0:0:0:313A|2601:648:8202:96B0:0:0:0:313A]] ([[User talk:2601:648:8202:96B0:0:0:0:313A|talk]]) 17:13, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

== Shorter word ==

Isn't the most obvious reason for code switching that some concepts require more, or longer, words in one language than another, so bilinguals will tend to use whichever is shorter and easier to say.  I have observed this a lot while listening to my wife dropping English words into conversation in Farsi.  Isn't laziness a major driving force in linguistic evolution?
[[User:DenisHowe|DenisHowe]] ([[User talk:DenisHowe|talk]]) 10:26, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

No, there are decades of research on code-switching with many documented communicative functions, none of which are laziness. Laziness is also not a major driving force in linguistic evolution. Unless you have some sources other than your interpretation of your wife's speech, this won't be a productive avenue for discussion.[[Special:Contributions/2601:602:9200:80:CD4C:FAEC:4248:3F45|2601:602:9200:80:CD4C:FAEC:4248:3F45]] ([[User talk:2601:602:9200:80:CD4C:FAEC:4248:3F45|talk]]) 06:44, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
:Also, ad-hoc borrowing (here: {{tq|dropping English words into conversation in Farsi}}) is something many would consider "code-mixing" rather than "code-switching". –[[User:Austronesier|Austronesier]] ([[User talk:Austronesier|talk]]) 11:55, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

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== Minor Edits ==

Hello! I am Melany Mihai a student from UCSB in a Writing 2 class. We are doing a project on editing Wikipedia pages and I would like to add this portion into the intro. In linguistics, code-switching or language alternation occurs when a speaker alternates between two or more languages, or language varieties, in the context of a single conversation or situation. Code-switching is different from plurilingualismin that plurilingualism refers to the ability of an individual to use multiple languages,[1] while code-switching is the act of using multiple languages together. Multilinguals (speakers of more than one language) sometimes use elements of multiple languages when conversing with each other. Thus, code-switching is the use of more than one linguistic variety in a manner consistent with the syntax and phonology of each variety. Code-switching may happen between sentences, sentence fragments, words, or individual morphemes (in synthetic languages). However, some linguists consider the borrowing of words or morphemes from another language to be different from other types of code-switching.[2][3] There are many ways in which code-switching is employed, such as when a speaker is unable to express themselves adequately in a single language or to signal an attitude towards something.Likewise, code-switching is utilized when communicating with different jargon and in different setting. Code-switching is used to directly adapt to the audience so that they understand you clearly and effectively.Several theories have been developed to explain the reasoning behind code-switching from sociological and linguistic perspectives. [[User:Caiversi25|Caiversi25]] ([[User talk:Caiversi25|talk]]) 14:02, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

== Question about minor edits to Distinguishing features ==

Hello! This is Kaixiang Lin. I am also a student from UCSB Writing 2 and work on the same project mentioned above. I am planning to add some portion of terms that are usually confused with Code-switching, like Code-Meshing, and translingual. I think these would be best fit under the section of Distinguishing features and to avoid over repetitive, I am planning to mainly focus on the differences between these if there are. I am not sure if this would be helpful to page, or this is already considered and intentionally left out.  Some advice would be highly appreciated! Thanks ahead.  [[User:Olkxiver|Olkxiver]] ([[User talk:Olkxiver|talk]]) 06:59, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

== Added Subsection of Easily Confused Terms ==

Hello! This is Kaixiang Lin. I am also a student from UCSB Writing 2 course. I executed my plan as I discussed above and eventually to add my edit as the subsection called Easily Confused Terns under the section Distinguishing features. Feel free to edit these if I made mistake of inappropriate formatting and talk to me on the talk page of my sandbox about these. Thanks ahead! [[User:Olkxiver|Olkxiver]] ([[User talk:Olkxiver|talk]]) 06:27, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

== references for code switching in education - gone ==

At some point, the references in the education section got unlinked, or whoever added them didn't port them over correct from a sandbox. Not sure where exactly the info comes from- there are at least four un-linked sources in there and im not sure how long they've been there for, unlinked. The info there tracks with the rest of the article, so it definitely had actual sources at some point, i just have no clue where from. [[User:Ejones0|Ejones0]] ([[User talk:Ejones0|talk]]) 21:13, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

:The section "Code-Switching in Language Education" appears to have been added by [[User:Ephvex]] with [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Code-switching&diff=1146145473&oldid=1146142232 this edit] in March 2023. The text added at that time includes the non-functional numbers (e.g. "code-switching is often a very common method to establish communication between educators and learners.[1]") visible now. Perhaps it was copied from a sandbox or other page. Unfortunately Ephvex doesn't seem to be around after their course ended in April, but [[User:Ephvex/sandbox]] appears to include the draft text, with references. [[User:Cnilep|Cnilep]] ([[User talk:Cnilep|talk]]) 05:34, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

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== Merger proposal ==
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I propose merging [[Code-mixing]] into [[Code-switching]]. Too much [[WP:Overlap]]. The slim differences that "some scholars" see can be included on Code-switching. [[User:Knowledgegatherer23|<span style= "color: darkblue">'''''Knowledgegatherer23'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Knowledgegatherer23|<span style="color: green">Say Hello</span>]]) 01:25, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

* '''Oppose'''. Although some work under the heading of ''code-mixing'' is essentially identical to code-switching, other work uses that heading for quite different (albeit diverse) topics. I would have only a weak objection to changing [[Code-mixing]] to a [[WP:D|disambiguation page]] – namely that not all of the topics labeled ''code-mixing'' are currently treated in other Wikipedia entries. (Full disclosure: I created the code-mixing entry in 2009; before that it was a redirect to Code-switching.) [[User:Cnilep|Cnilep]] ([[User talk:Cnilep|talk]]) 01:45, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

:'''Agree.''' I think ''code-mixing'' can be succesfully integrated within the ''Code-switching'' article, and the term be kept as a redirect to its own section within ''Code-switching''. [[User:Malacitana|Malacitana]] ([[User talk:Malacitana|talk]]) 16:24, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
:'''Weak support.''' I support merging the articles in principle. I think in such a case, however, there should be a larger discussion about changing the name of the merged article to ''language alternation'' or similar, to capture its more generalized nature. While ''code-switching'' and ''code-mixing'' are more-or-less synonymous, other forms of language alternation such as ''code-blending'' (which does not currently have its own article) are distinctly different from ''code-switching'' and would not fit well under this moniker.  [[User:Alphaw00lf2000|Alphaw00lf2000]] ([[User talk:Alphaw00lf2000|talk]]) 13:31, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
::I'd like to wait for a few more opinions to determine consensus. [[User:Knowledgegatherer23|<span style= "color: darkblue">'''''Knowledgegatherer23'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Knowledgegatherer23|<span style="color: green">Say Hello</span>]]) 14:19, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
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==Accuracy of examples==
On a similar note, the examples listed on the article seem to be innacurate as some look more like examples of Code-meshing. Supporting this, there has been much recent research and changing opinions in recent years on this matter. The whole section doesn't cite any sources and the above section only cites one extremely outdated source from last century. I propose writing new examples. What does everyone think? [[User:Knowledgegatherer23|<span style= "color: darkblue">'''''Knowledgegatherer23'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Knowledgegatherer23|<span style="color: green">Say Hello</span>]]) 07:34, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

:Why were this user's edits allowed to go through? This person has simply replaced the academic (useful) definition of code-switching with the popular misunderstanding of it. Code-switching is NOT simply speaking different language varieties to other people! Why would that even have a name? Does anyone struggle to identify why a bilingual French-English speaker might choose to use French in France and English in England? [[Special:Contributions/2600:8800:2F00:3970:499E:9E4C:539:253C|2600:8800:2F00:3970:499E:9E4C:539:253C]] ([[User talk:2600:8800:2F00:3970:499E:9E4C:539:253C|talk]]) 04:20, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

== the writing agenda ==

:{{xt|Code-switching in remote settings has become higher on the writing agenda due to the Covid-19 pandemic. Remote settings have taken the likes of social media, emails, and any other setting where communication has been made via online platforms.}}

What is {{xt|the writing agenda}}?  In the second sentence, what exactly does {{xt|taken}} mean? —[[User:Tamfang|Tamfang]] ([[User talk:Tamfang|talk]]) 21:46, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

:I think that they maybe meant to say that code-switching is being taken into account and performed intentionally in some remote-meeting contexts. [[User:Malacitana|Malacitana]] ([[User talk:Malacitana|talk]]) 16:12, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

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== the null transformation ==

:{{xt|For Example, the American English sentence "First day I walk in the door, there she was" transforms into "First day I walk in the door" in African American English. This alteration serves to clarify the action, emphasizing its singular occurrence.}}

Can someone check the source of this passage to confirm that the phrase transforms into exactly the same phrase?  (And that ''Example'' is indeed anomalously capitalized?) [[User:Tamfang|—Tamfang]] ([[User talk:Tamfang|talk]]) 21:02, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
:This is a grave misrepresentation of the source. Apart from the fact that American English sentences do not "transform" into AAVE sentences, the author Rusty Barrett actually presents the sentence "First day I walk in the door, there she was" as the correct AAVE version of incorrect **"First day I walk in the door, there she be", a sentence that appears in [[Kathryn Stockett]]'s novel [[The Help]] (one of many language blunders in that novel). Barrett writes: "Why is a college-educated White woman rewarded for using African American English incorrectly in her writing, while an African American child who writes in perfectly correct African American English is likely to be reprimanded, corrected, or asked to switch it out for another more appropriate version of English?" I will remove the passage, since it really misses Barrett's point. –[[User:Austronesier|Austronesier]] ([[User talk:Austronesier|talk]]) 21:33, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

==Wiki Education assignment: Writ 2 - Academic Writing==
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== Proposed merger ==
{{Discussion top|result=To '''not''' merge as proposed, given the difference in meaning; other forms of structuring may be warranted. [[User:Klbrain|Klbrain]] ([[User talk:Klbrain|talk]]) 18:26, 24 September 2024 (UTC)}}
I think [[Situational code-switching]] should be merged into [[Code-switching]], of which it is undoubtedly a sub-category. [[User:BetweenCupsOfTea|BetweenCupsOfTea]] ([[User talk:BetweenCupsOfTea|talk]]) 03:29, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

:'''Support''' [[Situational code-switching]] is definitely a sub-category. [[User:Adleid|Adleid]] ([[User talk:Adleid|talk]]) 20:21, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
::'''Oppose''' after reading [[User:Cnilep|Cnilep]]'s reply. [[User:Adleid|Adleid]] ([[User talk:Adleid|talk]]) 07:18, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' for reasons of length. 'Code-switching' currently has around 10,000 words, which [[WP:SIZESPLIT]] suggests is close to the limit for most readers' attention span. Linking to 'Situational code-switching', [[Metaphorical code-switching]], [[Translanguaging]], [[Code-mixing]] etc. with templates such as {{tl|Further}} and {{tl|Main}} would allow readers to focus on the area of interest to them. [[User:Cnilep|Cnilep]] ([[User talk:Cnilep|talk]]) 02:54, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

:'''Comment''': The every-day use of code-switching has shifted to mean Situational code-switching, while technical use among linguists continues to be bilingual code-switching. I'm not sure they can be merged due to length concerns. The ideal solution might be to revisit the merge of [[Code-switching]] to [[Code-mixing]] and then have Code-switching redirect to [[Situational code-switching]] to reflect the now more common every day use and something at the top to let linguists, linguistic students and those who might be looking for bilingual Code-switching to go to the merged page. [[User:Mars3|Mars3]] ([[User talk:Mars3|talk]]) 03:22, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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== Code switching in the slavery era ==

This article doesn't mention this topic. Is there a reason for that? [[User:Wiki-uk|Wiki-uk]] ([[User talk:Wiki-uk|talk]]) 19:25, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

:Predominantly discussions of code-switching in the context of slavery refers to [[Situational code-switching]]. While there is a lot of linguistic research about enslaved people and the language contact from the Atlantic Slave Trade, I can't find or think of any specifically about the sort of bilingual code-switching that might fit this topic. [[User:Mars3|Mars3]] ([[User talk:Mars3|talk]]) 01:26, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

== Distinguishing better between different definitions of "code-switching"? ==

This article seems to alternate between discussing the phenomenon that academic linguistics most often calls "code-switching" (the one that the introduction explains) and discussing the phenomenon that popular culture and politics calls "code-switching" (the one that's incompletely explained in the 2nd paragraph of the "use" section) For example, the "rationale" section has ''some'' bullet points that seem to be about the popular meaning and others that seem to be about the linguistic meaning. "Code-switching in the classroom" is entirely about the popular meaning, while "code-switching in language education" is about the linguistics meaning. I find this pretty confusing because those sections don't indicate which type of code-switching they're talking about. Is it just me? Are there ways to make this article more useful? [[User:Pedanticeditor1|Pedanticeditor1]] ([[User talk:Pedanticeditor1|talk]]) 06:32, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

== NPOV warning for Classroom Section ==

The classroom section is written more like a persuasive essay than a section within an encyclopedia entry. Additionally, it's written from a clear American view (see "this American Culture") [[User:That334|That334]] ([[User talk:That334|talk]]) 13:43, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

== Proposed summary for technical prose ==

I've been using Google's Gemini 2.5 Pro Experimental [[large language model]] to create summaries for the most popular articles with {{tl|Technical}} templates. This article, Code-switching, has such a template in the "[[Code-switching#Matrix language-frame model|Matrix language-frame model]]" section. Here is the paragraph summary at grade 5 reading level which Gemini 2.5 Pro suggested for that section:

:One idea about how people mix two languages when they talk is called the Matrix Language-Frame model. It says people use one main language, like a frame for a sentence, and put words or phrases from a second language inside that frame. The main language's grammar rules control how the sentence is built. Sometimes, the main language stops words from the second language if they don't fit the rules, like puzzle pieces that don't match. If a word doesn't fit right, the speaker might switch and say a whole chunk using only the second language, called an "island." Some kinds of phrases, like common sayings or time expressions, are more likely to be said as these language "islands."

While I have read and may have made some modifications to that summary, I am not going to add it to the section because I want other editors to review, revise if appropriate, and add it instead. This is an experiment with a few dozen articles initially to see how these suggestions are received, and after a week or two, I will decide how to proceed. Thank you for your consideration. [[User:Cramulator|Cramulator]] ([[User talk:Cramulator|talk]]) 12:55, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Cramulator|Cramulator]]: I suggest you to take this to a forum where you could get relatively high participation. I'm not sure many people are watching this talk page. <span class="nowrap">&#8212;'''[[User:CX Zoom|CX Zoom]]'''[he/him]</span> <sup class="nowrap">([[User talk:CX Zoom|let's talk]] • {[[Special:Contributions/CX Zoom|C]]•[[User:CX Zoom/X|X]]})</sup> 15:31, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
::I just re-did all the summaries for ninth instead of fifth grade reading level, as I'm told that's the target for STEM articles. I'll try to fold those back into these 68 talk page posts as alternative suggestions, then I'm going to wait and see what happens for at least a week and come up with a strategy to go forward after that; possibly involving WikiProjects. [[User:Cramulator|Cramulator]] ([[User talk:Cramulator|talk]]) 15:38, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

I am retracting this and the other LLM-generated suggestions due to clear negative consensus [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)&oldid=1283927858#I_boldly_put_LLM-generated_summary_suggestions_on_the_talk_pages_of_the_68_most_popular_articles_with_Technical_templates  at the Village Pump]. I will be posting a thorough postmortem report in mid-April to the [[User:Cramulator/Summaries_source_code|source code release page]]. Thanks to all who commented on the suggestions both negatively and positively, and especially to those editors who have manually addressed the overly technical cleanup issue on six, so far, of the 68 articles where suggestions were posted. [[User:Cramulator|Cramulator]] ([[User talk:Cramulator|talk]]) 01:34, 5 April 2025 (UTC)