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== Radio show merge? ==
http://www.radiogodaddy.com/
Bob Parsons' radio show
: Has an article: [[Life Online with Bob Parsons]].  Merge with this? — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 00:51, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
::I think a seperate article is warrented. <span style="border: 1px solid green;">[[User talk:Ardenn|<span style="background:green; font-family:Arial; color:#FFFFFF;">Ardenn</span>]]</span> 00:53, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
::: What makes it especially notable?  His blog doesn't have its own article. — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 04:30, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
::::His blog doesn't need its own article. What makes the radio program notable: [[Alexa]] [http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main?q=lifeonline.com&url=http://www.lifeonline.com/gdshop/radio/default.asp traffic rank of 653,579], [http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=%22Life+Online+with+Bob+Parsons%22&btnG=Google+Search&meta= 36,000 results] for a [[Google testing|Google test]]. <span style="border: 1px solid green;">[[User talk:Ardenn|<span style="background:green; font-family:Arial; color:#FFFFFF;">Ardenn</span>]]</span> 04:49, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
::::: [[Wikipedia:Google_test#Alexa_test|Alexa is not a measure of notability]], and [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22hot+points%22+parsons his blog beats] his radio show in the [[Wikipedia:Google test|Google test]], which is generally considered worthless for notability measurements, too.  I don't really care whether his Internet radio show has its own article, but I don't see why it's especially notable.  Lots of bloggers have podcasts and Internet radio shows. — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 04:59, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::: His radio show is on [[satellite radio]] and regular [[AM radio]] as well. I think that sets it apart. <span style="border: 1px solid green;">[[User talk:Ardenn|<span style="background:green; font-family:Arial; color:#FFFFFF;">Ardenn</span>]]</span> 05:01, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::: I'd support a merge of his radio show into this article. It's not like a [[Howard Stern]] size show, and would fit well within the article about the man himself. [[User talk:Jeffrey.Rodriguez|Jeffrey.Rodriguez]]
::::::::Welcome to Wikipedia. What are your contributions with us? <span style="border: 1px solid green;">[[User talk:Ardenn|<span style="background:green; font-family:Arial; color:#FFFFFF;">Ardenn</span>]]</span> 23:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::That's your first and only edit? — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 23:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::: First and only as a registered user. I've contributed to a few articles previously, long time user though :) [[User:Jeffrey.Rodriguez|Jeffrey.Rodriguez]] 02:27, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
:I '''support''' a merge, the talkshow isn't that notable, I've asked around campus and in my classes and I've not come across anyone who's heard of it, I live in a city with a pop of 1mil and it's a rather large campus. Everything that is said in the radio article could be said here in it's own section just as easily and people could do "one-stop-shopping" instead of having to word it just right to get to it. My two cents. <span class="ecophreek"> →[[User:Ecophreek|<span style="color: #360; font-family:monospace; font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap;">ΣcoPhreek</span>]][[User talk:Ecophreek|<sub style="font-variant: small-caps; color: #F39" title="Blah Blah Blah...">Δ</sub>]]</span> 13:51, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
:I also '''support''' merger - with the radio page being a redirect rather than a delete. there is not enough of a volume of text to warrant two articles [[User_talk:Trödel|<span style="color:#06C;">Trödel</span>]] 07:54, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::: I am against the merger. --[[User:The Mad Bomber|The Mad Bomber]] ([[User talk:The Mad Bomber|talk]]) 07:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::: Reason?  This isn't a blind vote. — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 23:35, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I went ahead and merged the text into this article - under [[Bob Parsons#Radio show|Radio Show]] - unfortunately the redirect won't link directly to a section - but it is good enough I think. I would move the section up a bit - but not sure where (except above the guatanamo thing) since the rest are basically in chronological order. So I left it last [[User_talk:Trödel|<span style="color:#06C;">Trödel</span>]] 06:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
:The merge is still disputed. I still think they should be seperate articles. *goes to find a fitting tag* <span style="border: 1px solid green;">[[User talk:Ardenn|<span style="background:green; font-family:Arial; color:#FFFFFF;">Ardenn</span>]]</span> 06:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

:: I'm ok with leaving them seperate if we can't reach concensus - but the metatags need to go - as they have been on there for weeks (at least since May 13th). And such tags detract from the article - and it is common policy to avoid the long term use of such tags. See [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2006-05-22/Templates for deletion|icon deletion]] where even unobtrusive icons are being debated as not being appropriate for the article space. If you want to leave the tag, {{tl|mergedisputed}} on the talk page that is fine with me. [[User_talk:Trödel|<span style="color:#06C;">Trödel</span>]] 13:44, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

==Omegatron's edits==
The issue I have is:

1. You don't need to spell out what he said in his blog. It's sourced, people can read it for themselves. [[WP:NOT|Wikipedia is not a soapbox]].

2. I don't see why both issues can't be under a general controversies section.

<span style="border: 1px solid green;">[[User talk:Ardenn|<span style="background:green; font-family:Arial; color:#FFFFFF;">Ardenn</span>]]</span> 01:01, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

:# Spelling out what he himself said in his blog to cause criticism and then what he said in his later retraction is perfectly neutral.  Put it back, please.
:# Pointing out how many "controversies" he has surrounding him is soapboxical.  Simply labeling the incidents for what they are is the most neutral way.  
:#* "The focus of a biographical article should be on the subject, not their critics." [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons]] 
:#* "[...] it isn't that we should not include the criticisms, but that the information should be properly incorporated throughout the article rather than having a troll magnet section of random criticisms." - [[Wikipedia:Criticism|Jimbo Wales]] 
:— [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 04:30, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
::Then work it in better? I think, and several people would agree, it violates [[WP:NPOV]] not to include a balanced argument. I'm open to other options. <span style="border: 1px solid green;">[[User talk:Ardenn|<span style="background:green; font-family:Arial; color:#FFFFFF;">Ardenn</span>]]</span> 04:51, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
::: A balanced argument about what?? — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 05:01, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Both sides of Bob Parsons. To create an article just talking about the good things of Bob isn't neutral. <span style="border: 1px solid green;">[[User talk:Ardenn|<span style="background:green; font-family:Arial; color:#FFFFFF;">Ardenn</span>]]</span> 05:02, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
::::: How is saying "he's been criticized as advocating torture" a good thing? — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 05:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
{{quotation|The neutral point of view is a means of dealing with conflicting views. The policy requires that, where there are or have been conflicting views, these should be ''presented'' fairly, but not ''asserted''. All significant points of view are presented, not just the most popular one. It should not be asserted that the most popular view or some sort of intermediate view among the different views is the correct one. Readers are left to form their own opinions. -[[WP:NPOV]]}} <span style="border: 1px solid green;">[[User talk:Ardenn|<span style="background:green; font-family:Arial; color:#FFFFFF;">Ardenn</span>]]</span> 05:14, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::: Now describe why my version conflicts with that. — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 05:48, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::The critisizm is factual and there's no valid reason not to include it. <span style="border: 1px solid green;">[[User talk:Ardenn|<span style="background:green; font-family:Arial; color:#FFFFFF;">Ardenn</span>]]</span> 05:52, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::: I don't understand at all.  What did I do that removed criticism? — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 06:07, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::You didn't, its the interiptation. You want the direct quotes in it, while I feel a simple commentary is sufficient, and readers can visit the blog itself for the whole article(s). <span style="border: 1px solid green;">[[User talk:Ardenn|<span style="background:green; font-family:Arial; color:#FFFFFF;">Ardenn</span>]]</span> 06:13, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::: Why can't readers judge the quotes for themselves? — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 06:29, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::I looked at it again. This debate is really just over the Gitmo section, not the Super Bowl one. Let me sleep on it. <span style="border: 1px solid green;">[[User talk:Ardenn|<span style="background:green; font-family:Arial; color:#FFFFFF;">Ardenn</span>]]</span> 06:36, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::: It's also about your use of the section heading "controversies", which I have shown you is recommended against by both a guideline and Jimbo himself. — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 23:36, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Is there another name we can use for it then? It just seemed unorganized without someting there. <span style="border: 1px solid green;">[[User talk:Ardenn|<span style="background:green; font-family:Arial; color:#FFFFFF;">Ardenn</span>]]</span> 23:41, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
: They're two unrelated incidents.  They should just be named for what they are.  "Super Bowl Commercial" and "Guantanamo Bay".  For instance, see [[George W. Bush]], [[Osama bin Laden]], etc.  See any "controversy" sections?  — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 00:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== This is an awful article ==

I came here to see if the Bob Parsons running godaddy was the same one that started Parson's technology - and like nearly always - wikipedia had the answer; however, the state of this article is utterly deplorable. One blog comment is about half the words of the article. This is really a shame for an internet pioneer who has successfully started 2 companies, though I wish he wouldn't have sold out to Intuit - I still miss my Money Counts software as I struggle through Quicken's do it our way and we'll make budgetting as complicated as possible - but who can blame him. 

Anyway I know nothing about him other than I loved the software - but I do know this article needs serious work. [[User_talk:Trödel|<span style="color:#06C;">Trödel</span>]] 13:17, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
:Put your money where your mouth is. If you think it needs work, do the research and add to it. Make sure it is [[WP:V|verifiable]] and has [[WP:CITE|cited sources]]. <span style="border: 1px solid green;">[[User talk:Ardenn|<span style="background:green; font-family:Arial; color:#FFFFFF;">Ardenn</span>]]</span> 04:14, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
: So write more. — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 02:49, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

==Advert concerns==
:This page now has two advert flags on it. I tried to be transparent in changes. Made it clear that I was affiliated with Go Daddy and that changes made were designed to adhere to Wiki's policy on neutrality. Citations were added to make article more fact-based. If there are concerns about specific passages still not being in "neutral point of view" can we discuss specifically, rather than simply adding new flags?? Am willing to make further changes in conjunction with other users. Have also appealed for assistance to Wiki editors on this matter. [[User:ParsonsRep|ParsonsRep]]  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|comment]] was added at 17:13, 15 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: went ahead and dropped anything like advertising - i think the article is fine now. [[User:Ninetyone|ninety]]:[[User talk:Ninetyone|one]] 18:27, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== Parsons Technology ==
There's not more than skeletal information on Parsons Technology, which perhaps should be a separate article. It mentions only one product, and leaves out major ones such as their tax software. It mentions the Intuit buyout, but does not mention that Intuit spit it back out a few years later. My recollection was that Intuit killed off the tax software and Parsons Technology reemerged with its other software intact, Bob Parsons was contractually prohibited from selling tax software for a period of time (a year?) and that he tried to resurrect that business on the Web after that period expired. I have no idea what happened to the company, but I see that the Bible software is out there on QuickVerse.com with an oblique reference, which is "The Parsons Church Division." Is that affiliated with Bob Parsons, was it merely named after him, or was it a coincidental reference to those with the clerical title? Why was Parsons involved in Bible software? If religion is a big part of his life, it's relevant if it plays a significant role in his business model. [[User:Hagrinas|Hagrinas]] ([[User talk:Hagrinas|talk]]) 22:11, 31 December 2010 (UTC)


=== Some improvements ===
have been made. References below [[User_talk:Trödel|<span style="color:#06C;">Trödel</span>]] 06:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
{|
|-
! Type
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! Link
! In Article
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| Magazine
| Worthwhile (WSJ)
| [http://www.startupjournal.com/runbusiness/worthwhile/20051207-worthwhile3.html?refresh=on GoDaddy's Remarkable Daddy]
| Yes
|- 
| Magazine
| DNJournal
| [http://www.dnjournal.com/columns/cover090504.htm Underachiever to Overlord: Go Daddy's Bob Parsons Started Slow]
| Yes
|-
| Newspaper
| Marine Corps News
| [http://www.military.com/Careers/Content1?file=careersArticlesGoDaddy.htm&area=Reference Former Marine, Go Daddy CEO Talks About His Rise]
| Yes
|- 
| Newspaper
| NY Times
| [http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/04/technology/04ecom.html?ei=5088&en=509f5fd0d5773e10&ex=1278129600&adxnnl=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1149229853-h59MWe4k5mCVzn3ZRhlmYg Blogging While Browsing, but Not Buying]
| No
|-
| Newspaper
| Arizona Republic
| [http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/0516biz-godaddy0516.html GoDaddy Goes public]
| No
|-
| Newspaper
| Arizona Republic
| [http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/0527buzz-bizbuzz0527.html Parsons divorces after 2 years]
| No
|-
| Newspaper
| USA Today
| [http://www.usatoday.com/tech/techinvestor/corporatenews/2005-05-01-godaddy.htm Chest Ads built buzz, but also animosity]
| Yes
|-
| Newspaper
| USA Today
| [http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/2005-03-13-godaddy-usat_x.htm GoDaddy.com surfs publicity wave on racy ad]
| No
|-
| News Television
| CNN
| [http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/08/technology/godaddy/?cnn=yes GoDaddy traffic soars]
| No
|-
| Online News
| World Net Daily
| [<nowiki>http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42772</nowiki> GoDaddy.com chief: From Bible to breasts]
| Yes
|-
| Low Circ Mag
| Bible Software Review
| [http://www.bsreview.org/craig.htm  An interview with Craig Rairdin]
| No
|-
| Newsletter
| Legalzoom
| [http://www.legalzoom.com/articles/article_content/article13989.html Rags to Riches: Bob Parsons, Founder of GoDaddy.com]
| Yes
|-
| Blog
| Red State Patriot
| [http://www.redstatepatriot.net/?p=122 Creator of QuickVerse speaks about GoDaddy and Parsons]
| Yes
|-
| Blog
| McCarthy.vg
| [http://mccarthy.vg/article.pl?sid=05/06/21/1238206 Why I'm No Longer a GoDaddy Customer]
| Yes
|-
| Blog
| Confusability.com
| [http://usability.typepad.com/confusability/2005/06/nogodaddy.html NoGoDaddy]
| Yes
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| Blog
| Daily Kos
| [http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/6/20/205351/274 GoDaddy president retracts pro-torture blog posting]
| Yes
|-
| Auto-Bio
| Craig Rairdin
| [http://www.craigr.com/mambo/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=44&Itemid=30 How I Got Into this Mess]
| Yes
|- 
| Auto-Bio
| Bob Parsons
| [http://www.bobparsons.com/index.php?/archives/4-My-Bio.html My Bio]
| No
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=== comments ===
: Good additions.  Can you put the blog quotes back in, though? — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 18:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
:: Thanks - I am not sure what to do about the quotes - I got a copy of the articles off google cache but they are now gone - as I don't think those are necessarily the best quotes from the article to present a balanced (NPOV) view of his statements. Any suggestions? [[User_talk:Trödel|<span style="color:#06C;">Trödel</span>]] 18:48, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


For full disclosure, ParsonsRep is affiliated with GoDaddy.com. [[User:ParsonsRep|ParsonsRep]] ([[User talk:ParsonsRep|talk]]) 21:01, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== ISO Dates ==

Just a quick comment - I don't care that much on ISO dates - I just think it is nice for international users of Wikipedia. if we link the dates (there are different ways to do it - I like ISO because it is easy to remember) then the dates will show the way the user wants. see [[m:Dynamic dates]] for info - also [[m:Help:Preferences#Date format]]. The style guide indicates its a nicety from what I can tell see [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#ISO date formats]] and surrounding topics. [[User_talk:Trödel|<span style="color:#06C;">Trödel</span>]]  14:22, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
:Ardenn, I am not sure why you keep reverting without discussion - however, it looks to me like the ISO date is supported by at elast a couple users - please help me understand why you don't want the dates to support international formats. Your first comment was that the change was useless (which I interpretted to mean that you felt it had no effect) - as explained above this change is "useless" to editors - i.e. there is no functional difference; however it has a positive effect for some users [[User_talk:Trödel|<span style="color:#06C;">Trödel</span>]] 22:18, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Good articles|Good Article]] [[Wikipedia:Good articles/Nominations|nomination]] has failed ==
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*The article does not [[WP:CITE|cite its sources]].|}} {{#ifeq:yes|yes|
*The [[WP:LEAD|lead section]] should be expanded to summarise more of the article's content.|}} {{#ifeq:yes|yes|
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==Go Daddy==
Full Disclosure: ParsonsRep is affiliated with GoDaddy.com. We want the notice "This article or section is written like an advertisement." removed as we re-wrote the Go Daddy section to be more Bob-centric and fact based.  [[User:ParsonsRep|ParsonsRep]] ([[User talk:ParsonsRep|talk]]) 21:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

: Please look up my IP. I'm in the Philippines---you hear that? the PHILIPPINES! If there was ever a crappy place where adverts were out of control, its here. And after looking over this article, I cannot find a single reason for the Advert lables. Nothing on here looks like an advertisement. Not a single damn thing. The only thing glaring outright is someones animosity at Bob Parsons and his accomplishments. There are few other people in a similar position as himself, however aside from that, find those few and see of their pages look like this. I have seen some but its always by people with agendas. Personally, I'm beginning to wonder at th editors in here that might have affiliations with verisign or some anti-war / anti-american movement. Look above and tell me that these freaks weren't getting all bent out of shape over the specific wording to reference the Gitmo comments so so so long ago. Is that still an issue? One person tries playing barracks lawyer to use technicalities to allow his paraphrasing to terms of a negative slant. Another, actually on the same side, becomes a pissant to quote directly, again with the point of negatively impacting the image of this living person.

:People, if you dont F*ucking like the guy, fine. Get on the intertubz and tell the whole world...put please keep you crappy little shots off of wikipedia...like adding those silly advert tags. What a bunch of children. I challenge anyone here to find advertisement material or promotional wording.[[Special:Contributions/210.5.75.10|210.5.75.10]] ([[User talk:210.5.75.10|talk]]) 13:05, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

== No torture reference at all? ==

I ended up on the Bob Parsons page after seeing him on a reality show and trying to remember the specific comments he'd made regarding the US use of torture. I was disappointed to find zero mention of it on this page (and, at the moment, no mention on the Go Daddy page). It's clearly one of the 2 or 3 most common things known about Bob Parsons, and it seems incredibly relevant to anyone doing research on him. Can there be some mention, and quoting of his statements, even if under a disclaimer that they were later retracted?  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Davebug|Davebug]] ([[User talk:Davebug|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Davebug|contribs]]) 22:23, 17 March 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Muslim employee==
I have removed this entry because there's no source, completely failing verifiability. Do not re-include this section into the article without citing published sources. [[User:Basileias|Basileias]] ([[User talk:Basileias|talk]]) 00:34, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

:<i>Go Daddy Group Inc. wrongfully terminated a Muslim employee from Morocco for complaining of discrimination and must pay the man $390,000 in damages, a federal jury decided.</i>

:Your removal of the entry was unwarranted. Even a "citation needed" would not have been warranted. Wikipedia's policy clearly states that the latter is "used to identify '''''questionable''''' claims [emphasis mine]  that lack a citation to a reliable source...."  A quick Google search on the first 10 words of that statement instantly comes up with a multitude of sources from major mainstream publications. There is no controversy over whether this happened. Nobody is claiming that it didn't happen. It's a matter of public record. The available sources are not obscure nor are the claims buried in other sources. The top search results are for sources that are articles about the specific ruling, not ones that merely mention it. [[User:Hagrinas|Hagrinas]] ([[User talk:Hagrinas|talk]]) 22:23, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
::You are mistaken. First, even if there were a reliable source added to verify the claim, it would still not be suitable for this article. To be usable here, the source would have to link the subject of this article to the action, with an indication that it was a significant event for the subject of this article. See [[WP:BLP]]. [[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq|talk]]) 03:06, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
::I realize my comment is a little late to the table, but we must be especially vigilant as WP editors when dealing with a BLP. I agree with Johnuniq. If the controversy had a direct link to the controversy (e.g. he directed the termination, or he made a notable quote about the termination), then perhaps it would be better suited for his BLP WP page.[[User:Writethisway|Writethisway]] ([[User talk:Writethisway|talk]]) 20:26, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

== Controversy ==

I deleted the controversy section. The eco- and animal-rights-sensitive editors here need to look at things with a cool head. Dr. Parsons is just another big game hunter. There’s nothing illegal about killing an elephant in Zimbabwe, in fact he did it with the full blessing of the authorities there. The morality of doing such a thing is of course subjective. This is only big news right now because PETA somehow only found out ''now'' about Parsons being a big game hunter, and decided to throw a big snit over it. —&nbsp;<em>[[User:TheHerbalGerbil|TheHerbalGerbil]]</em><sup>([[User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil|TALK]]|[[Special:Contributions/TheHerbalGerbil|STALK]])</sup>, 11:16, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
:Few people outside of Arizona ever heard of Bob Parsons before the elephant video. He appeared on multiple national news shows in regard to the incident. The claim that it is not relevant is a fringe position.[[User:Brmull|Brmull]] ([[User talk:Brmull|talk]]) 08:51, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
This section is <b>not NPOV</b> because it gives copious space for Parsons to lay out his argument in his own words without giving equal space to critics. An attempt to flesh out the elephant controversy has been repeatedly deleted in an edit war. I'm of the opinion that leopard controversy should also be added, particularly as Mr. Parsons recently deleted it from his site and served Youtube with a takedown notice. I also strongly believe that Mr. Parsons remarks about torture of Guantanamo detainees should be included since they were widely reported.[[User:Brmull|Brmull]] ([[User talk:Brmull|talk]]) 08:48, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
::I agree with TheHerbal.  This is a manufactured controversy and is a weight issue.  Just because a couple of animal rights groups are up in arms doesn't mean it is controversal.  These groups are pretty extreme on their own and get upset about pretty much everything.  [[User:Arzel|Arzel]] ([[User talk:Arzel|talk]]) 13:27, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
:::There was just a PR guy on CNBC today, a week after the story broke, saying this scandal could destroy GoDaddy. According to him it has cost them tens of thousands of customers so far. That doesn't seem like a weight issue. That seems very significant. Certainly more significant than the quote from Bob Parson's about how he's earned every penny he has. Half the CEOs in America say the same thing.[[User:Brmull|Brmull]] ([[User talk:Brmull|talk]]) 22:26, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Most people agree that a blog is considered a RS regarding the person or organization that publishes that blog. Therefore HSUS.typepad.com is considered a RS about what the Humane Society said. I'm not going to revert it but I am determined to have NPOV in this section and not just 10 lines of what Bob Parsons says.[[User:Brmull|Brmull]] ([[User talk:Brmull|talk]]) 22:44, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

[[WP:BLP|BLP]]'s shouldn't have controversy sections. The material should be worked into the body of the article. If you need an example, see the [[Mel Gibson|Mel Gibson]] article. This material needs to be re-worked.

<i>Remove immediately any contentious material about a living person that is unsourced or poorly sourced; that is a conjectural interpretation of a source (see No original research); that relies on self-published sources, unless written by the subject of the BLP (see below); or that relies on sources that fail in some other way to comply with Verifiability. Note: although the three-revert rule does not apply to such removals, what counts as exempt under BLP can be controversial. Editors who find themselves in edit wars over potentially defamatory material about living persons should consider raising the matter at the BLP noticeboard instead of relying on the exemption.</i>

===Controversy===
On March 8, 2011, while vacationing in [[Labola]], [[Zimbabwe]], Parsons shot and killed an [[elephant]] that was scavenging through a local farmer's crops for food.  After the kill villagers are shown harvesting the elephant's for its meat <ref name="BusinessInsider">{{cite website
 |last = Carlson
 |first = Nicholas
 |year = 2011
 |month = March
 |title = GoDaddy CEO Videotapes Himself Killing an Elephant
 |website = Business Insider
 |url = http://www.businessinsider.com/godaddy-ceo-videotapes-himself-killing-an-elephant-2011-3
 |access date - 2011 -30-03
}}</ref>  

In the video, Parson's states that, "Of everything that I do this is the most rewarding." Parsons stood by that sentiment, later stating:


:''"I kind of figured that this [backlash] might happen.  So be it, I’m not ashamed of what I did.  All these people that are complaining that this shouldn’t happen, that these people who are starving to death otherwise shouldn’t eat these elephants, you probably see them driving through at McDonald’s or cutting a steak.  These people [Zimbabwe villagers] don’t have that option...The people there have very little, many die each year from starvation and one of the problems they have is the elephants, of which there are thousands and thousands, that trash many of their fields destroying the crops.''<ref name="MyFoxPhoenix">{{cite website
 |year = 2011
 |month = March
 |title = Elephant Hunt Controversy Surrounds GoDaddy.com CEO
 |website = My Fox Phoenix
 |url = http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/morning_show/godaddy-ceo-shoots-elephant-03292011
 |access date - 2011 -29-03
}}</ref> 
 

:''The tribal authorities request that I and others like me, patrol the fields before and during the harvest — we can’t cover them all, there are just a few of us — and drive the elephant from the fields.  The farmers try to run the elephants away by cracking whips, beating drums and lighting fires.  All of this is ignored by the elephants.  When my team catch elephants in a field...we typically kill one of them and the rest leave for good.  After we kill an elephant the people butcher the elephant and it feeds a number of villages.  These people have literally nothing and when an elephant is killed it’s a big event for them, they are going to be able to eat some protein.  This is no different than you or I eating beef...''''<ref name="ShowBizSpy">{{cite website
 |year = 2011
 |month = March
 |title = GoDaddy CEO Embroiled in Controversy!  Bob Parsons Defends Elephant Murder!
 |website = Show Biz Spy
 |url = http://www.showbizspy.com/article/229616/go-daddy-ceo-embroiled-in-controversy-bob-parsons-defends-elephant-murder.html
 |access date - 2011 -30-03
}}</ref>


[[People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals]] Senior Vice President Dan Matthews told CNN's <i>Piers Morgan Tonight</i> that "we have taken our business with Go Daddy and gone elsewhere, and that's what we're encouraging other people to do."<ref name="PiersMorgan">{{cite website
 |year = 2011
 |month = April
 |title = GoDaddy's CEO and PETA debate elephant killing
 |website = CNN
 |url = http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/04/friday-clips-godaddys-ceo-and-peta-debate-elephant-killing-sarah-silverman-on-anti-semitism/
 |accessdate = 2011-04-05
}}</ref>
[[User:Basileias|Basileias]] ([[User talk:Basileias|talk]]) 03:07, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

:If you want to rename the section "Allegations" instead of "Controversy," as in the Gibson article, I have no objection. If you want to whitewash all criticism of Parsons I object.[[User:Brmull|Brmull]] ([[User talk:Brmull|talk]]) 08:36, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

::Controversy sections invite people with an axe to grind about the subject. Accusing other editors of trying to keep negative information out of articles, censorship, having a hidden agenda or otherwise acting in bad faith you shouldn't do if you don't have good evidence. [[User:Basileias|Basileias]] ([[User talk:Basileias|talk]]) 12:46, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

::: Did some cleanup of some botched markup in this thread. Controversy sections are common and this individual would be  a pure controversy subject, like [[2010 Qur'an-burning controversy|Terry Jones]] if it were not for his other activities. The action with the elephant certainly is notable having received world wide coverage and perhaps should simply be listed as the Zimbabwean Incident. Also note that the butchering of the bull was accompanied by rock music, didn't see that noted and it's part of what has incensed PETA and others. [[Special:Contributions/72.228.177.92|72.228.177.92]] ([[User talk:72.228.177.92|talk]]) 15:33, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

::::Nope, controversy sections are not common in BLPs. You may want to take note that the example you cited isn't a [[Biographies of living persons|BLP]]. You mis-titled the [[2010 Qur'an-burning controversy|2010 Qur'an-burning controversy]] to "Terry Jones." That's not a BLP. [[User:Basileias|Basileias]] ([[User talk:Basileias|talk]]) 16:02, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

::::: I didn't "mistitle" Basileias, I purposely linked to show an example of pure controversy. As for your other counterfactual statement, will let it stand, your position is fairly clear from the above and your vociferousness on this invites investigation. [[Special:Contributions/72.228.177.92|72.228.177.92]] ([[User talk:72.228.177.92|talk]]) 16:07, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::See [[WP:POINT]]. Such edits are unproductive at best and counterproductive on average. Please refrain from further editing in this manner. --[[User:N5iln|Alan the Roving Ambassador]] ([[User talk:N5iln|talk]]) 16:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::An article of "pure controversy" is definitely permissible, and that may be proper for this issue with Parsons. They generally don't go into [[Biographies of living persons|BLP]]'s. This incident can go into the BLP if it was reworded and shorted. I think a couple of sentences is enough. I'm paraphrasing, but something like "Bob did A, PETA protested," would be very proper. [[User:Basileias|Basileias]] ([[User talk:Basileias|talk]]) 16:48, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
{{od}}
Also I suggest [http://babyboomertalkonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/bob-parsons-2.jpg this] as a better image, it's on top in google image search and apparently is public domain. I know the one there is the one he puts on his biz, but it's common to show celebrities at their best where possible. [[Special:Contributions/72.228.177.92|72.228.177.92]] ([[User talk:72.228.177.92|talk]]) 16:57, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
:I don't have strong feelings about this, but don't you think living persons should be portrayed as close to their current appearance as possible?[[User:Brmull|Brmull]] ([[User talk:Brmull|talk]]) 22:00, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
[[Oliver Stone]] is one example of a BLP which has a "Controversy" section. A search brings up a few hundred others.[[User:Brmull|Brmull]] ([[User talk:Brmull|talk]]) 22:00, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm not going to put up new edits only to have them constantly reverted by the "Bob did A, PETA protested" folks. The burden is on them to put up something and then we'll work on it. If that doesn't happen I'm inclined to flag this article for NPOV dispute.[[User:Brmull|Brmull]] ([[User talk:Brmull|talk]]) 22:00, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
::You may want to look at that [[Oliver Stone]] article again. An issue has been raised in it because there's a controversy section. It's regarding the same issues I've been trying to communicate to some of you.
:::{{Criticism section|date=August 2010}}
::I would encourage you to take your case [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard|here]].  [[User:Basileias|Basileias]] ([[User talk:Basileias|talk]]) 00:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Submitted the following request for administrator help:

<i>Parsons, who is CEO of GoDaddy.com, was recently in the national news for videotaping himself killing elephants and a leopard in Zimbabwe. PETA and the Humane Society called for a boycott of GoDaddy. Some editors of Parson's page have repeatedly reverted any attempt to mention this event, while refusing to offer their own compromise wording. Editor/administrator input is requested to decided whether the event should be mentioned, whether it should be part of another section or its own section, and how the wording will be determined. Thanks!</i>

In the meantime I flagged the article for <b>POV dispute</b> until the issue is resolved.[[User:Brmull|Brmull]] ([[User talk:Brmull|talk]]) 09:40, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

:How's this coming? The BLPN thread seems to have died down. &nbsp; <b>[[User:Will Beback|<span style="color:#595454;">Will Beback</span>]]&nbsp; [[User talk:Will Beback|<span style="color:#C0C0C0;">talk</span>]]&nbsp; </b> 02:12, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:::It's been 40 hours since the last comment, <b>I'm importing the latest version</b> to [[Bob_Parsons]]. If there is no objection, 48 hours after that I will remove the NPOV flag and close the noticeboard thread.[[User:Brmull|Brmull]] ([[User talk:Brmull|talk]]) 00:13, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
::::Thanks for seeing this through. Despite the "wiki" name, it's often best to handle issues on Wikipedia slowly instead of quickly. Process is product. &nbsp; <b>[[User:Will Beback|<span style="color:#595454;">Will Beback</span>]]&nbsp; [[User talk:Will Beback|<span style="color:#C0C0C0;">talk</span>]]&nbsp; </b> 09:39, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

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===comment===
Hi, I saw the section at the BLPN and came to have a look, I don't see much of a reason to add this here, it is more at home on the Go Daddy article as PETA withdrawing their business with Go Daddy makes in a bit noteworthy there. At the most a carefully worded sentence, such as ... and the way the article is currently it would neen its own header - I don't think it worthy of one but if need be then..''Animal rights'' should suffice and is neutral enough description of the issue....

===Animal rights===
In 2011 Parsons was criticized by [[PETA]] and environmentalists after he uploaded a video of himself shooting and killing an elephant in Zimbabwe to his personal blog, the shooting was at the request of tribal authorities to protect their crops for harvest.[1][2] 
:<b>NOTE:</b> This discussion seems to have moved [[Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Bob_Parsons | here]] for the time being.[[User:Brmull|Brmull]] ([[User talk:Brmull|talk]]) 07:52, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

== Edit waring ==
I can see the talk page is being ignored on this recent issue with the insertion of these edits.

<i>He has recently been under media scrutiny after posting a video of himself slaughtering elephants in Zimbabwe while on vacation.

Parsons has recently been under pressure for hunting elephants in Zimbabwe. He refers to them as 'problem elephants'. PETA and other activist groups have made it a mission to boycott GoDaddy.com for his actions.</i>

I think a moratorium on this issue is warranted because of the continual insertion of edits that clearly violate the [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons|WP:BLP]].
:The issue is being addressed. See Controversy section above.[[User:Brmull|Brmull]] ([[User talk:Brmull|talk]]) 09:42, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

==New section: Animal rights==
Instead of "criticized" I'd like to propose "denounced." I know it's late, but I think it's a lot less cliché'd if that makes sense. Today, everyone is "criticized" but denounced seems a bit more clear and to the point, at least to me. Let me know what you think. Now common [[User:Brmull|Brmull]], you've got to admit after hashing out a better write up this is a lot better than what was originally there. ;-) I'm sure it's not agreeable to everyone but what's there now is much, much more professional. [[User:Basileias|Basileias]] ([[User talk:Basileias|talk]]) 03:07, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
:Your change is good. Thanks.[[User:Brmull|Brmull]] ([[User talk:Brmull|talk]]) 02:07, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

==Nadja Rescue==
A brand new account, probably opened just for this purpose, added to our proposed section. I'm not sure it really added to what it looks like we may settle on.

<i>Additional pictures have surfaced on the internet showing Bob Parsons with slaughtered animals such as a Gnu and young Zimbabwe Elephant. The website also posted photographic evidence proving there were other ways to "protect farmers' fields" without killing severely endangered animals.
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|work = Killi.net
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|accessdate = 2011-04-13
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|title = Animals Bob 'Godaddy' Parson has Slaughtered
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|url = http://rs79.vrx.net/works/photoessays/2011/godaddy/</i>
:I don't think this new information is well-sourced enough to include here. If it gets picked up by reliable media sources we can reconsider it.[[User:Brmull|Brmull]] ([[User talk:Brmull|talk]]) 02:10, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello, I just wanted to let you know, I am new to making edits and was not trying to get in an edit war.  I am still trying to figure out the ropes.  I would like to add that there are new pictures surfacing that do need serious consideration.  Parsons has been allowed to give his point of view, but evidence suggesting other circumstances is out there.  Photographs don't lie.  If you don't want to include the articles, that is one thing, but why not post the pictures and videos and let the public decide how to interpret them.  Parsons is clearly standing over some endangered species.  So post them, then you don't have to worry about people stating "opinions."  It is starting to feel like Parsons is controlling and manipulating the media and using his influence to stop facts from surfacing.  Please consider posting the video and pictures. Best,  Nadja Rescue[[User:Nadja Rescue|Nadja Rescue]] ([[User talk:Nadja Rescue|talk]]) 08:01, 17 April 2011 (UTC)Nadja Rescue

:Thank you for your followup. You're welcome to continue making edits through wikipedia. However let me cut and paste something in regards to this issue:

:<i>This article must adhere to the policy on [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons|biographies of living persons]]. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially [[Wikipedia:Libel|libellous]]. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if there are other concerns about the biography of a living person, please report the issue to the [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard|biographies of living persons noticeboard]]. If you are connected to the subject of this article and need help with issues related to it...</i>

:One other thing on sources, the source you supplied looks self-published. For a living person and if the material can be critical or perceived as such, it needs to be sourced from the strongest possible third party source. What I mean by third party is the writer has no vested interest in the subjects success or failure. There's also the issue of copyright. I question whether that website has sought proper copyright of the photos. I hope this helps and you not deterred from participating in wikipedia, but when it come to living people its an area that edits can be touchy and need to follow strict rules. [[User:Basileias|Basileias]] ([[User talk:Basileias|talk]]) 15:48, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

::Even though this thread is three years olde, may I note that rules should not override common-sense and "thinking 'outside the box', being moderately creative" which, I think, is a pillar of wisdom in Wikipedia editing, is it not? The article here looks great to me. I'll read it over, again and again, to see if I can contribute to excellence! — [[User:Charles Edwin Shipp|Charles Edwin Shipp]] ([[User talk:Charles Edwin Shipp|talk]]) 13:51, 12 March 2014 (UTC) PS: I agree with prior advice to the new WP editor.

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== Edit Request ==

{{Edit COI|ans=y}} I have a conflict of interest and won't edit this article.  I'd like to request that the following edit requests be reviewed and implemented if they are acceptable. Both references are the same but I don't know how to combine them.

In the [[Bob_Parsons#Political_activities]] section, please add this sentence to the top: 
Parsons is a registered Independent.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.esquire.com/sports/a43624153/bob-parsons-pxg-liv-golf-trump-interview/  |last=Boskovich |first=Ben |title=Bob Parsons Knows What You're Thinking—and Actually... |date=April 25, 2023 |website=Esquire |access-date=July 25, 2023}}</ref>

Please also add this sentence to the end of that same section: 
On April 25, 2023, Parsons told Esquire that he no longer supports former U.S. President Donald Trump, stating “I did vote for him, but I'm no longer a fan.” He explained that his opinion on Donald Trump changed with the insurrection along with reading various books on what happened during Trump’s presidency and how he ran his office. “The number one thing I care about is our country and who's going to do the best job. I'm not a Democrat, and I'm not a Republican. I'm a registered Independent. I just want this country to be what it can be.”  He added that in retrospect, the U.S. president that he thinks most highly of is former U.S. President Barack Obama.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.esquire.com/sports/a43624153/bob-parsons-pxg-liv-golf-trump-interview/  |last=Boskovich |first=Ben |title=Bob Parsons Knows What You're Thinking—and Actually... |date=April 25, 2023 |website=The NY Times |access-date=July 25, 2023}}</ref> [[User:MusicJunkie14|MusicJunkie14]] ([[User talk:MusicJunkie14|talk]]) 16:35, 28 July 2023 (UTC) [[User:MusicJunkie14|MusicJunkie14]] ([[User talk:MusicJunkie14|talk]]) 16:35, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
:{{Partly done}} A link to the interview in ''Esquire'' where the subject discusses his views on that subject was placed in the newly-created ''External links'' section. Regards, <span style="font-size:85%;border:3px solid red;border-radius:15px">[[User:Spintendo|<span style="color:#f00;">&nbsp;<b>Spintendo</b>&nbsp;</span>]]</span> 07:51, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
*I've added an appropriate sentence to the prose and removed the external link. <sub>[[User:Wjemather|<span style="color:#0D5218">wjemather</span>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Wjemather|<span style="color:#520D0D">please leave a message...</span>]]</sup> 08:10, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
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{{Edit COI|a}} Hi - thanks {{u|Wjemather}} for addressing my second request.  I'm reposting my first request.

In the [[Bob_Parsons#Political_activities]] section, please add this sentence to the top: 
Parsons is a registered Independent.<ref name=esquire>{{cite web|url=https://www.esquire.com/sports/a43624153/bob-parsons-pxg-liv-golf-trump-interview/  |last=Boskovich |first=Ben |title=Bob Parsons Knows What You're Thinking—and Actually... |date=April 25, 2023 |website=Esquire |access-date=July 25, 2023}}</ref> 

Also, please add the following to the end of the political section. (I fixed a typo in the source name): 
He added that in retrospect, the U.S. president that he thinks most highly of is former U.S. President Barack Obama.<ref name=esquire/> Thank you. [[User:MusicJunkie14|MusicJunkie14]] ([[User talk:MusicJunkie14|talk]]) 17:28, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|MusicJunkie14}} Implemented. [[User:STEMinfo|<span style="color: red;">STEM</span><span style="color: green;">info</span>]] ([[User talk:STEMinfo|talk]]) 19:39, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

== Our Creator’s Demands  ==

While driving one day l hear a comment on the radio to mislead you by saying there is no God in Heaven and Jesus Cross did not die on the cross. I was completely taken aback, u mean to say my prayers were done in vain? No, l knew the only true answer l could trust 1,000% was from our Creator! Though l was not in the state of mind to be humble as l was acting like l was God’s little spoiled brat,as l had enough attitude DEMANDING the truth. Regarding the issue afore mentioned!!

Poof the next thing l knew l was that l was in Heaven. OMG the sensation felt like blissful orgasmic surrender and l just wallowed in it and l felt this sensation of utter completeness in its entirety in my mind body and soul.
l felt compelled to realize it could never be better than this to say the very least. 
Then l detected a man present thus l didn’t know if l was being punked. 

So l went to him quite aggressively for him to immediately tell me who he is.( how can one be in this total feeling of bliss but still have enough wits about in case of evil minions messing with you. You must allow your thoughts to be filled with love as that is all you feel while in Heaven. 
But l wasn’t intimidated by this person tho His answer to who He is, blew me away as He responded He is Jesus Christ to which l barked back that l Don’t Believe You!
Prove It!!
At which time He put both of His hands side by side, palm side up in front of me.
My eyes filled with tears for Him firstly due to the scars from when they inhumanely forced the nails through His flesh on His hands and feet as they were so mangled from being nailed to the cross. 
My heart filled with love for the incredible sacrifice He did so we could be forgiven for our sins once we repent for them of course.
I fell to my knees asking in a sincere voice for His forgiveness. 
Then Jesus Christ extended His hand to me, like a gentleman, to TAKE MY HAND IN His…
WOW Jesus Christ held my hand as He pulled me to stand beside Him. He then said to me that l have to go back. Of course l whined and complained as l didn’t want to leave Heaven. 
He calmly yet firmly said that Father God is very 
distressed about His greatest
creation, mankind. They are 
even talking about nuclear weapons. 
l was then instructed by God 
Almighty transmitted by His 
Lordship Jesus Christ Almighty that l must tell all humanity that if they are not living by the Ten
Commandments their souls are in jeopardy and they can’t enter Heaven to feel the blissful orgasmic surrender for eternity. 
Just be aware at all times that any chaos in ur life is created by saten so kick the minions back to hell as saten is after your soul, remember that.
End your prayers in Jesus Christ’s name and you and yours will be save and protected!

While in Heaven l asked if there was a particular religion to follow and He said none as they are a comfort for His children and all He wants is to bring the prayers directly to Father God. 
Just before l left Heaven l suddenly had three names pop into my head, Oprah Winfrey, Mrs.Joyce Myers, and Mrs. Obama.
Now l am back in my car and it’s well past dinner time but l’m still revelling in the sensation of the Holy Spirit.
I just wanted it to never stop and l didn’t care how long l was in the car still filled with the holy trinity. 
I think they refer to it as that. 
Nonetheless l just recalled l suggested to God Almighty that He add though shall not kill yourself or any man, woman and child!
He has added it to the commandments and it shall be done, it’s a sin, unless you are not in a sane mind! 
l must say as it took me by surprise but it should not have as Father God does truly listen to us. [[User:TrueGypsy1|TrueGypsy1]] ([[User talk:TrueGypsy1|talk]]) 20:37, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

== The Truth From God  ==

As evil naysayers were saying that there is no God in Heaven listening to our prayers, l was very distraught. 
I did indeed need the truth from our Creator. 
Is there really a God Above? [[User:TrueGypsy1|TrueGypsy1]] ([[User talk:TrueGypsy1|talk]]) 20:54, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

== When l DEMANDED It  ==

I knew who God and Jesus Christ were as they were a big part of my life.
However l heard what evil naysayers were saying which definitely caused chaos for humanity. As they were saying that God Almighty in Heaven doesn’t exist and His son, Jesus Christ didn’t die on the cross so our sins could be forgiven. 
I DEMANDED the truth from our Creator and got it. 

As for the first time in my life I was able to acknowledge the fact that I did get to go to Heaven and
meet Jesus Christ in person.
At first I didn’t know why 
God chose me, but when I did
recall the situation in PR, l could then understand why Father God did choose me. 
As l had ethics and He could 
trust that I would do the right thing when push got to
shove.
The fact that I wanted to strangle the drunk driver for not having any ethical character. 
By apologizing for his drunken behaviour killing my dear sweet sister, Maria. 
When l met the drunk driver who killed my sister expecting an apology l didn’t expect him to say aren’t you over that yet? This was the day after l went to the morgue to ID her body. Honestly l wanted to strangle him to death as l felt with the callous selfish attitude he had he was going to go on drinking and driving, killing other innocent souls!
l couldn’t bear that for any
one else so l called my ex boyfriend as he was the head of the lrish mafia. 
When l finished telling him what had transpired he said not to worry about it that he would take care of it! 
At that time l felt better thinking l got revenge for my sister.
However, when I got home all l could think about was that l was going to be responsible for his death!

Due to knowing our Lord’s Ten
Commandments: 
Thou shall not kill yourself 
or any other man, woman or
child. 
I just kept going over it in my mind all day until I realized that I had to let go of my anger. [[Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:5855:CA00:28C4:9D76:B6FA:4622|2607:FEA8:5855:CA00:28C4:9D76:B6FA:4622]] ([[User talk:2607:FEA8:5855:CA00:28C4:9D76:B6FA:4622|talk]]) 15:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)