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== White thing poking left eye on album cover ==

Mention what that white thing is poking his left eye on the album cover. [[User:Jidanni|Jidanni]] ([[User talk:Jidanni|talk]]) 01:55, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:I think it's the other side of his cheek that just get's hit by the light but this is pretty trivial and I can't really find any other information about it. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 17:06, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

== 1977 or 1978? ==

"Before and after Science is a 1977 album..."

"Brian Eno chronology... Before and after Science (1978)"

Discrepancy. Someone with definite knowledge please sort out. I suspect it's a difference between release of record and publication of music, but I don't know. [[Special:Contributions/86.0.169.202|86.0.169.202]] ([[User talk:86.0.169.202|talk]]) 17:20, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
:Somebody's typo I suspect - fixed. Thanks/cheers, [[User:Ian Rose|Ian Rose]] ([[User talk:Ian Rose|talk]]) 09:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

== Please do not mistakenly keep moving the article under a capitalized After ==

Brian Eno's express typography was to use lower case. This happens to be within his purview. It is also a matter of stylistic convention. Persons raised on Chicago Manual of Style will recognize it as such, because CMS downcases ''all'' prepositions. In any case, please read [[Capitalization]] and leave this album alone. Thanks. --[[User:Mareklug|Mareklug]] <sup>[[User talk:Mareklug|<b>talk</b>]]</sup> 20:42, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

== Veracity of status as an anagram ==

::: there are two "f" 's in each phrase.  You are really not a puzzle person, and neither is the person who acted on your suggestion.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.88.229.196|70.88.229.196]] ([[User talk:70.88.229.196|talk]]) 17:53, 5 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->




Confirmation seems needed for the statement, "'Before and after Science' is in fact an anagram for 'Arcane Benefits of Creed.'" — I'm not a puzzle person, so I don't know the answer, but can it be a ''true'' anagram if the one "f" in "Benefits" is used twice? Reading "in fact" didn't convince me.[[Special:Contributions/24.18.229.217|24.18.229.217]] ([[User talk:24.18.229.217|talk]]) 17:15, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:I've removed this information in the article since I can't find any information about it. It's pretty trivial anyhow. [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 17:07, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


== Source of the phrase in the album title ==
In a radio interview I heard when the album was released, Eno gave the quote from which the title came. I have long forgotten the origin and the quote was something like "Before and after science, all things are unchanged." I have had no luck at all in tracking it down, however. Robert G. Ingersoll, maybe it was.

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== Julie With... ==

''... Julie Christie ... the 36-year-old-actress has taken up with a 29-year-old rock musician named Brian Eno and they've been seen everywhere together.'' {{cite news |last=Sloan |first=Robin Adams |date=1978-03-19 |title=The Gossip Column |url=http://www.fultonhistory.com/highlighter/highlight-for-xml?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fultonhistory.com%2FNewpapers%2520Disk2%2FAuburn%2520NY%2520Citizen%2520Advertiser%2FAuburn%2520NY%2520Citizen%2520Advertiser%25201978.pdf%2FNewspaper%2520Auburn%2520NY%2520Citizen%2520Advertiser%25201978%2520-%25204872.PDF&xml=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fultonhistory.com%2FdtSearch%2Fdtisapi6.dll%3Fcmd%3Dgetpdfhits%26u%3D389223ef%26DocId%3D409051%26Index%3DZ%253a%255cIndex%2520U%252dF%252dP%26HitCount%3D2%26hits%3D428%2B429%2B%26SearchForm%3D%252fFulton%255fNew%255fform%252ehtml%26.pdf&openFirstHlPage=false |newspaper=The Citizen, Auburn N.Y. |location=Auburn, NY |access-date=2015-10-27 }}

There's probably more support.  I'll see about drilling for it later.

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