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=="When thanking Quigley" is a spoiler==
Quigley is assumed to be dead for a while, so maybe we should fix that.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.170.9.69|70.170.9.69]] ([[User talk:70.170.9.69|talk]]) 00:34, 26 January 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Wikipedia does not hide details because they're spoilers; see [[WP:SPOILER]]. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Glimmer721|<span style="color:blue;">Glimmer721</span>]] [[User talk:Glimmer721|<sup style="color:blue;">talk</sup>]]</span> 01:35, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

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== Lede image "fair use or not" discussion ==
Looking at the lede image, I do not believe that it meets the non-free content guideline requirement number 8, "signifigantly increases reader's understanding." There is no critical discussion of how the boxed set look within the article, for example.  In my opinion it should be removed. - [[User:Aaron Brenneman|Aaron Brenneman]] ([[User talk:Aaron Brenneman|talk]]) 00:08, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

== Allusions ==

I removed the following from the allusions because it has been labelled as unreferenced sinc 2009. [[User:Aircorn|AIR<span style="color:green;">'''''corn'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Aircorn|(talk)]] 10:09, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

In the second book, ''The Reptile Room'', the Baudelaire orphans are taken in by Uncle Monty, the famed herpetologist. Monty's name is presumably a reference to the English absurdist comedy troupe Monty Python. Another Monty Python reference can be found in ''The Slippery Slope'', with a punchline about strawberries being a defense against a man with a pointed stick giving a nod to the [[Self Defence Against Fresh Fruit]] sketch. In the fourth book, ''The Miserable Mill'', Dr. Georgina Orwell is a reference to the British author [[George Orwell]]. Orwell wrote his famous book "1984" in 1948. In the sixth book, "The Ersatz Elevator", it is not clear if the skyscraper in which Jerome and Esmé Squalor live has 48 or 84 stories.
Another example would be, [[Quagmire family#Duncan and Isadora Quagmire|Isadora and Duncan Quagmire]], who are named for the famous American pioneer of Modern dance, [[Isadora Duncan]].

Jerome and Esmé Squalor's names reference [[J.D. Salinger|Jerome David "J. D." Salinger]] and his short story "[[For Esmé&nbsp;– with Love and Squalor]]" In book nine, "The Carnivorous Carnival", the story takes place at Caligari Carnival; this is a nod to 1920 film, ''[[The Cabinet of Doctor Caligari]]'' about the eponymous carnival hypnotist who works alongside a troupe of freaks.
Also, most or all of the inhabitants of the island in which the Baudelaires find themselves on in ''The End'' are characters from ''[[The Tempest]]'', a play by [[William Shakespeare]]. This links together using [[word play]] when [[Kit Snicket]] tells the orphans about her story. Historical references are made in the fifth book where Nero, a violin playing [[Head teacher|head master]], is named after the [[Roman Emperor|Roman emperor]] [[Nero]] who, as legend says, played the fiddle as Rome burned.

In "The End", the character named Ishmael often asks people to call him "Ish". This alludes to [[Herman Melville]]'s "[[Moby Dick]]". Another allusion to Moby Dick is the submarine "Queequeg" in the eleventh book, ''The Grim Grotto''.

The books are all dedicated to a woman named Beatrice, who is supposed to be Lemony Snicket's ex-fiancé. This may be an allusion to the legendary Italian poet [[Dante Alighieri]] and his unrequited love, Beatrice, to whom he dedicated all of his work after her death. Beatrice is also the symbol of Divine Love who guides Dante to Paradiso in Dante's most famous work, ''[[The Divine Comedy]]''.

== Quote from nowhere ==

In "Recurring themes and concepts" under "Settings", the seventh paragraph says:
:: Lemony Snicket starts each book with a "post-modern dissection of the reading experience" before linking it back...
:: EDIT: Here's another one: "the sinister menace of an all-too-real adult world" (two paragraphs below the first quote) [[User:Bilorv|'''Bilorv''']] <sup>[[User talk:Bilorv|(Talk)]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Bilorv|(Contribs)]]</sub> 20:00, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Where does the quote ("post-modern dissection...") come from? There are no sources nearby and a Google search didn't find anything other than Wikipedia mirrors. [[User:Bilorv|'''Bilorv''']] <sup>[[User talk:Bilorv|(Talk)]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Bilorv|(Contribs)]]</sub> 19:51, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

I have added citation needed tags to the quotes, but am baffled as to who added them and where they came from. If no-one speaks up, I'll just remove the quotes soon (see [[WP:SILENCE]]). [[User:Bilorv|'''Bilorv''']] <sup>[[User talk:Bilorv|(Talk)]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Bilorv|(Contribs)]]</sub> 12:08, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

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== Seriously? ==

" Likewise, the final installments of the series are also acknowledged for their escalatingly intricate ethical ambiguity toward philosophical ambivalence, ..."

''ambiguity towards ambivalence'' ?

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== V.F.D. (Volunteers Fighting Disease) ==

Hi all, I just read "[[The Hostile Hospital]]" (which features the Volunteers Fighting Disease singing group). Since it's the only one I've read, I'm not sure if they're in other books, or only this one. I noticed that [[Lemony Snicket]]'s page hyperlinks the V.F.D. to the character list in The Series of Unfortunate Events, but I'm not seeing the V.F.D. in that list. Should it be added/ described more prominently, or should the V.F.D. not hyperlink to a page that doesn't list it? (Or does it talk about it somewhere without listing them? Or is someone Is this info considered "verifiable" enough?: https://snicket.fandom.com/wiki/Volunteers_Fighting_Disease
I tried to add a line to the "[[V.F.D.]]" list (of other things using those letters, including the "Volunteer Fire Department") but not sure if they'll keep it in the list since it doesn't really have its own Wikipedia page. It'd be a cool page -- we could include their song? :D

[[User:Follow.your.inner.heroes.2.the.work.you.love.2021|Follow.your.inner.heroes.2.the.work.you.love.2021]] ([[User talk:Follow.your.inner.heroes.2.the.work.you.love.2021|talk]]) 01:05, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

:*V.f.d is in three books that I know of. The sixth, the seventh, and the eighth
:[[Special:Contributions/47.147.144.169|47.147.144.169]] ([[User talk:47.147.144.169|talk]]) 22:55, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

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== Planned Editing Changes ==

Hello everyone! I plan on editing this article within the next few weeks. My hopes are to create a new “Background” section on the early development of the series; consolidate any information that addresses the series’ genre into one “Genre” section; condense the “Lead” section and move any extra detail into the main body of the article; add citations to the various unsourced claims made in the article; flag and/or delete any information that cannot be supported by evidence from verifiable scholarly sources; and conduct basic copyediting to fix the tone of the article for a general/public reading audience. 

These changes will reorganize the existing information to more closely align with Wikipedia’s example formatting for articles about books; summarize the information more concisely so readers can better understand the main points that they should get out of reading this article; add citations so readers can track from where Wikipedia is getting its information and/or go read those sources for themselves; delete any unnecessary, overly-biased, or unsupported information that goes against Wikipedia’s standards; and make the information more accessible in style/tone for a general reading audience.--[[User:Moira388|Moira388]] ([[User talk:Moira388|talk]]) 21:55, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

== Jude Law not signifier of ==

Meta fiction or absurdist textuality [[Special:Contributions/71.178.33.122|71.178.33.122]] ([[User talk:71.178.33.122|talk]]) 22:04, 31 October 2023 (UTC)