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{{Interface explanation|[[{{SUBJECTPAGENAME}}]] is the message that appears in the edit window right above the {{button|text=Publish changes}} button.}}
{{tmbox|text=On [[Wikimedia Foundation]] wikis, the previous message [[MediaWiki:copyrightwarning]] was replaced by [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning]] on June 29, 2009.}}

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== Protected edit request on 18 December 2017 ==

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As per [[:meta:Editing/Publish]]...might be best to update the wording here to match new button.

:Current  
::By saving changes, you agree to...

:Proposed change
::By publishing changes, you agree to.... [[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 02:38, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
:{{onhold}} {{ping|User:Mpaulson (WMF)}} please confirm from WMF that this is OK. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 03:30, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
::Please also note, this is the localized version of this message for the English Wikipedia.  The mediawiki default message currently says:
{{tq|By saving changes, you agree to the [https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use Terms of Use], and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License CC BY-SA 3.0 License] and the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Documentation_License GFDL]. You agree that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient attribution under the Creative Commons license.}}. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 03:32, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
::Changes to the default for all projects will require a global update. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 03:33, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Xaosflux}} Michelle Paulson nio longer works for the WMF, I believe &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 12:03, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
:See also     [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131132  phabricator.T131132]   --[[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 03:46, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
::::{{re|Mdennis (WMF)}} please review both this change request and Michelle Paulson's status. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 12:15, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
:::::Maggie Dennis is aware of this and asked me to look further into it. Michelle Paulson indeed is no longer working for the foundation. --[[User:CSteigenberger (WMF)|CSteigenberger (WMF)]] ([[User talk:CSteigenberger (WMF)|talk]]) 14:45, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
::::::[[User:Xaosflux|Xaoxflux]], Legal didn't object to this proposed change.  [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 17:44, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
:{{done}} — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 19:18, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

== Protected edit request on 3 June 2018 ==

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Change the following
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under the [[Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License|CC BY-SA 3.0 License]] and the [[Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Documentation_License|GFDL]].
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to
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under the [[Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License|CC BY-SA 3.0]] and the [[Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Documentation_License|GFDL]] licenses.
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Since both CC BY-SA 3.0 and GFDL are licensees, it seems highly questionable to only say "license" after the first and not the second license. Neither "CC BY-SA 3.0" nor " CC BY-SA 3.0 License" is the license full name, so it doesn't have any legal difference. <span style="background: turquoise;font-family: 'Segoe Script', 'Comic Sans MS';">([[User talk:Josve05a|'''t''']])&nbsp;[[User:Josve05a|<span style="color:white;">'''Josve05a'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[Special:Contributions/Josve05a|'''c''']])</span> 21:58, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
:Also remove the unnecessary underscores in the wikilinks (<code>_</code>). <span style="background: turquoise;font-family: 'Segoe Script', 'Comic Sans MS';">([[User talk:Josve05a|'''t''']])&nbsp;[[User:Josve05a|<span style="color:white;">'''Josve05a'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[Special:Contributions/Josve05a|'''c''']])</span> 22:02, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
::The underscores are not an issue, and might even be useful for some ancients browsers. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 22:45, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
:::{{notdone}} {{re|Josve05a}} however feel free to follow up with WMF legal, this is the local copy of what is normally a global statement.  I suspect the term is like that because the L in the legacy GFDL already stands for license, while the normal abbreviation "CC BY-SA 3.0" would not be as obvious. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 11:11, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

== Protected edit request on 24 June 2019 ==

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Please change

<code><nowiki>By publishing changes, you agree to the [[wmf:Terms_of_Use|Terms of Use]], and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution</nowiki></code>

to

<code><nowiki>By publishing changes, you agree to the [[wmf:Terms_of_Use|Terms of Use]], and you irrevocably agree to release your contributions</nowiki></code>

(contribution -> contribution<u>s</u>). This is so that the sentence structure maintains [[parallelism (grammar)|parallelism]]. While a single contribution can include multiple individual "changes", it is only 1 change to the page as a whole, so an alternative is to change "changes" to "a change". Either way, they should either be both singular or both plural. Thanks, --[[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 10:41, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{Re|DannyS712}} this is certainly a ''legalese'' question, but my reading is that this is related to the current edit, which may have one or more "changes" to the page contained in "this contribution" - and certainly that you are not agreeing to do things about past or future contributions. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 11:15, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
::{{ping|Xaosflux}} I left a note at [[User talk:Mdennis (WMF)]], and it would also make sense to change it to "publishing your change" to mirror the current "your contribution" --[[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 11:21, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
:::{{re|DannyS712}} I think some of it arose from the labeling that WMF decided to use for the actual button ("Publish changes") that is clicked as well.  But this is really up to them and it likely will not be English Wikipedia specific. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 11:24, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Xaosflux}} Okay. Thanks anyway, --[[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 11:25, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
*{{on hold}} pending WMF response. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 11:25, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi all. Maggie brought this to my attention since it’s a question about how the licenses work on Wiki. I took a look at the proposed change, and while I do see the standard verb agreement concern, in this case, the use of a plural or singular would not make a difference (either to “changes” or “contribution”) because the creative work that’s being referenced as being licensed is adequately clear regardless of which terms are plural, which means it's also legally effective regardless. This means we don't see a need to put through a change specifically to adjust this, although I can certainly make a note of the verb agreement for the next time that we need to update the licensing language. -[[User:Jrogers (WMF)|Jrogers (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Jrogers (WMF)|talk]]) 20:48, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
:{{not done}} per above. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 23:21, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

== Protected edit request on 21 June 2021 ==

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Change <code>wmf:Terms_of_Use</code> to <code>wmf:Temrs_of_Use/en</code>, as the first terms of use without en prefix redirects to the latter page, so it would be better to have it redirect to the actual target page. [[User:54nd60x|54nd60x]] ([[User talk:54nd60x|talk]]) 01:57, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
:{{not done}} they have something wrong with their translatable page over there, but they should fix it over there so that this works regardless of the interface language selected by our readers. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 11:08, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

== Protected edit request on 29 July 2023 ==

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In 2012 the text "Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted." was removed as it was already included in the native heading for the 2010 Wikitext editor, per [[MediaWiki:Editpage-head-copy-warn]].

With the growth in usage of the 2017 wikitext and visual editors there is now no reminder to not add content that constitutes copyright infringement. There is sufficient space and, in light of the huge amount of copyright violation reports, primarily caused by inexperienced new users, I propose the aforementioned line is added back to the end, providing a link to copyright advice and helping remind new users that content must be sutiable for inclusion.
* Content that [[Wikipedia:Copyright violations|violates any copyrights]] will be deleted.  – [[User:Isochrone|'''<span style="color:#042559">I</span><span style="color:#0c3c8a">s</span><span style="color:#1d58b8">o</span>chrone''']] ([[User talk:Isochrone|T]]) 17:53, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
*: {{not done}} First off, this is one of the most visible messages on the project, and has a [[Template:Editnotices/Page/MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning|scary edit notice]] saying "Do not edit it without clearing any potential changes through WMF legal counsel. Administrators should contact legal@wikimedia.org once they're ready to make a change, and permission will be granted if the change is safe.", which means I don't feel comfortable doing this just on the basis of a month-old edit request on an obscure page without broader discussion (that none of the other admins watching this queue have responded to). {{pb}} Second off, I'm not even convinced this is a good idea or useful - users of the editors in question don't even see this message until they have already composed their edit and hit publish, by which point it's almost certainly too late. It feels like your problem would be better addressed by filing a task on [[WP:PHAB|phabricator]] asking to add a copyright warning earlier in the process than hacking around it here. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 22:52, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

== Protected edit request on 6 April 2024 ==

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Please replace this with <code><nowiki>{{int:wikimedia-copyrightwarning}}</nowiki></code> (the latter is a parser function that automatically internationalizes based on language) or delete this message since it is not used on Wikipedia, in a similar manner that [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-globalblocking-ipblocked]] is used instead of [[MediaWiki:Globalblocking-ipblocked]]. [[User:Awesome Aasim|Awesome]] [[User_talk:Awesome Aasim|Aasim]] 16:36, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
: {{not done}} [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]] is already a transclusion of [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning]]. I see no reason to do anything here. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 19:45, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Pppery|Pppery]]: I believe the idea of using '<code><nowiki>{{int:MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning}}</nowiki></code>' instead of '<code><nowiki>{{MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning}}</nowiki></code>' is to allow language translations to also work. [[User:Jdforrester (WMF)|Jdforrester (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Jdforrester (WMF)|talk]]) 13:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
::: Is this actually displayed anywhere, though? While I generally dislike the idea of supporting foreign user interface languages on enwiki I would be willing to implement this if someone could point to somewhere where it makes a difference. Otherwise it's just doubly trivial fiddling around. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 13:40, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:::: When you edit a Wikipedia page, you agree to license your contribution. The copyright warning appears directly above the 'publish changes' ([[MediaWiki:Publishchanges]]) button on the editing page. --[[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 16:13, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
::::: Yes, [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning]] is displayed there. My question is whether the content of the non-prefied [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]] ever matters, or is this entire section a waste of time? [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 20:28, 8 April 2024 (UTC)