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== Which version ==

What i liked about the new version of the shared upload notice was that it didn't place such an emphasis on who hosted the content (largely irrelevant), that it was free content and so on, it was just a short, to the point notice with two links, one bold which pointed you to the image description page on the commons.

I feel that the user interface here in general is a bit to prone to [[creeping featurism]], the longer this message is the less efficient it can be at its original purpose, to direct whoever goes to an image page to its description page on the commons.

For reference here are the two versions of the message: —[[{{ns:2}}:Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason|Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason]] 09:38, 2005 Mar 1 (UTC)

{| align=center cellpadding=3 cellspacing=3 style="border: solid #aaaaaa 1px; background: #f9f9f9;"
| [[Image:Commons-logo.svg|30px|Wikimedia Commons Logo]]
|This is a file from the [[Commons:Main Page|Wikimedia Commons]]. Please see its '''[[Commons:Image:{{PAGENAME}}|image description page]]''' there. 
|}

{| align=center cellpadding=3 cellspacing=3 style="border: solid #aaaaaa 1px; background: #f9f9f9;"
| [[Image:Commons-logo.svg|30px|Wikimedia Commons Logo]]
|This is a file from the [[Commons:Main Page|Wikimedia Commons]], a repository of [[free content]] hosted by the [[Wikimedia Foundation]]. Please see '''[[Commons:Image:{{PAGENAME}}|the image description page]]''' for licensing information and authorship.
|}

See [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village%20pump%20%28policy%29&oldid=11583978#Tag_for_images_on_commons Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Tag for images on commons]. Basically someone was concerned that the message didn't indicate that Commons was all free content and didn't indicate where licensing and authorship information might be found. "Image description page" is, after all, a bit of Wikipedia jargon that the average reader might or might not figure out. If it's necessary to keep it short and sweet, while still incorporating these vital points, I'd suggest:

{| align=center cellpadding=3 cellspacing=3 style="border: solid #aaaaaa 1px; background: #f9f9f9;"
| [[Image:Commons-logo.svg|30px|Wikimedia Commons Logo]]
|This file is [[free content]] from the [[Commons:Main Page|Wikimedia Commons]]. Please see '''[[Commons:Image:{{PAGENAME}}|the description page]]''' there for licensing and authorship.
|}

This omits the fact that the Commons is a Wikimedia project, which isn't essential, but keeps the two important points: the content is free, and the important information is on the Commons page. &mdash;[[User:Mirv|Charles]][[User talk:Mirv|&nbsp;P.]][[Special:Emailuser/Mirv|&nbsp;<sup><small>(Mirv)</small></sup>]] 18:31, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

:I think the link [[Free content]] is not needed. Every additional link distracts from the really important one to the image description page. The details of ''free'' is described there anyway. -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 13:31, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)

::The current version is fine. --[[User:Meno25|Meno25]] 02:00, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

== Image description page -> file description page ==

Would it not be better (for instance, for [[Image:Zh-zhongguo.ogg|this sound file]]) to have the text reading ''file description page'' rather than ''image description page''?  I know the namespace is currently <code>image:</code>, although I hope this might, in the future, change to <code>media:</code>.  Cheers, <i>[[User:Smoddy|Smoddy]]&nbsp;(<sub>[[User talk:Smoddy|t]]</sub><sup>[[User:Smoddy/Greece gallery|g]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Emailuser/Smoddy|e]]</sub><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Smoddy|c]]</sup>)</i> 18:17, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

== Proposed updates ==

#I think "its" should not be part of the link to the image description page. If i wasn't here for #2 anyway, I would have just been bold and done it..
#The word "copied" should be changed to "shown". I remember, when I was newer, this made me think that someone manually copied the page, and that it may be out dated.

What do you all think of that? --<span style="color:red">[[User:Phroziac|Phroziac]]<b> <sup>([[User talk:Phroziac|talk]])</sup></b></span> 23:07, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
:Sounds good to me... especially #2 as it makes more sense than the current message. '''[[User:Sasquatch|<span style="color: #89CF19>Sasquatch</span>]]'''<span style="background-color:#C1FF5F">[[User_talk:Sasquatch|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/Sasquatch|c]]</span> 23:22, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
:Sounds good to me as well. --<span style="background:gold;">[[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">S</span>]][[User:Siva1979|iva1979]]</span>[[User talk:Siva1979|<sup style="background:yellow;">Talk to me</sup>]] 18:26, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== please change to: ==

[[:Image:Commons-logo.svg]] --[[User:Paddyez|Paddyez]] 16:24, 7 October 2005 (UTC)


==trying to raise proife of commons==
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change the thing to this [[User:Geni/temp]] so that people relise there is a project they can contributr to.[[User:Geni|Geni]] 23:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

: I agree that something along those lines (maybe a slight rewording) would be useful. The current notice links to the Commons but doesn't actually say what it is; many Wikipedia readers don't even know there ''are'' other Wikimedia projects. Sure, there are the sister project links at the bottom of the Main Page and in other places, but people often don't notice them. Being as it is directly relevant to the Commons, this is a good place to have such a message – [[User:Qxz|Qxz]] 23:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:: Has been done (by Raul654, he forgot to remove the <nowiki>{{editprotected}}</nowiki> – [[User:Qxz|Qxz]] 02:46, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

correction on the link it should point to [[commons:Commons:Upload/en]] rather than [[Commons:Upload/en]].[[User:Geni|Geni]] 03:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:{{Done}} [[User:Cbrown1023|<b style="color:green;">Cbrown1023</b>]] [[User talk:Cbrown1023|<b style="color:#002bb8; font-size:small;">talk</b>]] 22:46, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[[Commons:Commons:Welcome]] would be a better page for a "You can help" link, really - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] 16:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

:Tl:dr. Just too much text there. [[commons:Commons:Upload/en]] at least gets yu dirrectly into things.[[User:Geni|Geni]] 17:13, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
::I doubt people will just upload something if they don't first have some idea of what the Commons is. Also, there are ways of helping Commons other than uploading images. Commons:Welcome mentions those ways, Commons:Upload does not. [[User:S_Sepp|'''ssepp''']][[User talk:S_Sepp|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

== "Please do not categorize this file locally" ==

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"Please do not categorize this file locally"

The above addition to the template was not discussed before being added recently by Yonatan. Please see this diff: 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ASharedupload&diff=154496829&oldid=140745748]

The edit summary was:
<blockquote>
"files should be categorized on commons, not locally in 99.9% of cases (ie. every case except for en.wp featured images"
</blockquote>

This is incorrect. This addition should be removed pending discussion. I have started a discussion here:
*[[commons:Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Image_categorization_in_commons_and_wikipedia]]

Please continue discussion there mostly, in order to avoid duplication and confusion in the talk threads.--[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] 13:52, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:[[Image:Yes check.svg|20px]] '''Done'''. I undid the edit while discussion continues. Cheers. --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] 02:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] 03:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

== Link to [[Wikimedia Commons]] ==

I want to suggest that instead of linking to the home page, we link to [[Wikipedia:Wikimedia Commons]]. --[[User:Steinninn|Steinn]][[User talk:Steinninn|inn]] 01:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

== protected edit request ==

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Apply the "plainlinks" class to this message, to hide the external link icon on the "edit" link, which is actually an inter-project link, thus:

<pre>
<div class="plainlinks" style="clear:both;"></div>
{| border=0 cellspacing=2 style="border:1px solid #aaa; background:#f9f9f9; font-size:90%; margin:.2em auto .2em auto;"
|- 
| style="padding:10px;" | [[Image:Commons-logo.svg|30px|Wikimedia Commons logo]]
| style="padding:10px;" | <big>This is a file from the [[Commons:Main Page|Wikimedia Commons]]. The description on its '''[[Commons:Image:{{PAGENAMEE}}|description page there]]''' ([[Commons:Image talk:{{PAGENAMEE}}|discuss]] · [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:{{urlencode:{{PAGENAMEE}}}}&action=edit edit]) is shown below.</big>
<div style="text-align: center;">Commons is a freely licensed media file repository. [[Commons:Commons:Welcome|You can help]].
</div>
|}
</pre>

-- [[User:Gurch|Gurch]] ([[User talk:Gurch|talk]]) 21:21, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:[[Image:Yes check.svg|20px]] '''Done'''. Though I didn't use your code, as it was broken. Cheers. --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] ([[User talk:MZMcBride|talk]]) 23:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

== Imbox ==
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Please replace the page with the following code:
<pre>
{| class="imbox imbox-notice" style="clear:both; font-size:90%;"
|- 
| class="mbox-image" | [[Image:Commons-logo.svg|30px|Wikimedia Commons]]
| class="mbox-text" |
<big>This is a file from the [[Commons:Main Page|Wikimedia Commons]]. The description on its '''[[Commons:Image:{{PAGENAMEE}}|description page there]]''' is shown below.</big>
<p style="text-align:center;">Commons is a freely licensed media file repository. [[Commons:Commons:Welcome|You can help]].</p>
|}
</pre>
Thanks. —[[User:Ms2ger|Ms2ger]] ([[User talk:Ms2ger|talk]]) 17:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
:{{done}} [[User:X!|<span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica;color:steelblue;">'''X'''</span>]][[User talk:X!|<span style="color:steelblue;"><small>clamation point</small></span>]] 03:46, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh no no. The loss of complete screen width means that you lose the commons as sort of elsewhere vibe. The extra high is bad the stronger colours distact from the other stuff on the page and the extra hight is undesirable. The tex formating also becomes an issue.[[User:Geni|Geni]] 04:51, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:Huh? I know you're a fair site more intelligible on IRC. --[[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 04:57, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

::Sort version the graphic design on the new version sucks and the change should not have been made without debate first.[[User:Genisock2|Genisock2]] ([[User talk:Genisock2|talk]]) 05:01, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:I reverted the edit, since this needs more discussion.
:For reference, here is how this message looked with the imbox code:
{| class="imbox imbox-notice" style="clear:both; font-size:90%;"
|- 
| class="mbox-image" | [[Image:Commons-logo.svg|30px|Wikimedia Commons]]
| class="mbox-text" |
<big>This is a file from the [[Commons:Main Page|Wikimedia Commons]]. The description on its '''[[Commons:Image:{{PAGENAMEE}}|description page there]]''' is shown below.</big>
<p style="text-align:center;">Commons is a freely licensed media file repository. [[Commons:Commons:Welcome|You can help]].</p>
|}

:And here is how this message used to look and how it now looks again since I reverted:
<div style="clear:both;"></div>
{| border=0 cellspacing=2 style="border:1px solid #aaa; background:#f9f9f9; font-size:90%; margin:.2em auto .2em auto;"
|- 
| style="padding:10px;" | [[Image:Commons-logo.svg|30px|Wikimedia Commons logo]]
| style="padding:10px;" | <big>This is a file from the [[Commons:Main Page|Wikimedia Commons]]. The description on its '''[[Commons:Image:{{PAGENAMEE}}|description page there]]''' is shown below.</big>
<div style="text-align: center;">Commons is a freely licensed media file repository. [[Commons:Commons:Welcome|You can help]].
</div>
|}

:I agree with Geni here. I don't think this message should use the imbox (even though I was the one who designed the imbox). The imbox was designed for "image message boxes" that are placed on image pages, usually by humans. But the sharedupload message is an automatic system message and is placed at the very top, something I call a "header message box". Header and footer message boxes usually use 100% width and the table of content colours. See for instance [[MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer]], [[MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer-anon]], [[MediaWiki:Anontalkpagetext]] and the automatic category footer box at the bottom of pages who have some category.
:However, this message currently uses somewhat clumsy code. I would like to update it to use the mbox compatible {{tl|fmbox}} instead. That is the "footer and header message box" and it was designed especially for this kind of messages. It is mbox compatible in the sense that it uses the same padding and the same parameters as the other mboxes do, like for instance the {{tl|ambox}} and the {{tl|imbox}}. Then it would look for instance like this:
{{fmbox
| image = [[Image:Commons-logo.svg|40x40px|Wikimedia Commons logo]]
| textstyle = font-size: 90%; text-align: center;
| text = 
<big>This is a file from the [[Commons:Main Page|Wikimedia Commons]]. The description on its '''[[Commons:Image:{{PAGENAMEE}}|description page there]]''' is shown below.</big> <br /> Commons is a freely licensed media file repository. [[Commons:Commons:Welcome|You can help]].
}}
:Note that these examples look very different depending on screen resolution. So to get the complete picture you need to try it in some different screen resolutions.
:--[[User:Davidgothberg|David Göthberg]] ([[User talk:Davidgothberg|talk]]) 08:22, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

::{{tick|18}} '''{{ucfirst:Done}}''' - I finally got around to do this update. This message now uses the {{tl|fmbox}}, so it now matches the other system messages. But I added a &lt;div>&lt;/div> around the text inside it, to give it more top and bottom text padding, so it looks a bit more like the old version.
::--[[User:Davidgothberg|David Göthberg]] ([[User talk:Davidgothberg|talk]]) 10:58, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

== Icon ==

I've placed a small Commons icon on the template, that appears in the top right corner for every image that is being pulled from Commons. This makes it much more readily apparent what the source is. Ideally, it would link to the Commons File: page, but I couldn't get the magic words to work with the image map. *shrug*

Anyway, I realize I'm implementing it without much discussion. [[WP:BOLD]] and all that jazz. Feel free to revert, discuss, or heap praise upon me as the spirit moves you (the third is my personal preference). [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 21:18, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

<pre>
<div class="metadata topicon" style="display:none; right:10px;">
[[Image:Commons-logo.svg|14px|link=commons:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons]]
</div>
</pre>
Sparely documented image syntax. — [[User:Dispenser|Dispenser]] 18:22, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:Fantastic, thank you. I'd never seen "link" be used in an image tag... very handy. [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 18:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::It's new. I can't find the documentation, there's also alt=.  The other way is to use <nowiki>{{#tag:imagemap|...}}</nowiki>.  — [[User:Dispenser|Dispenser]] 18:57, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

== Link to secure server ==
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I log in to Wikipedia via the secure server and unfortunately this template liks me to the unsecure page on Commons. I would like to change

<nowiki>'''[[Commons:File:{{PAGENAMEE}}|description page there]]'''</nowiki>

to

<nowiki>'''[[Commons:File:{{PAGENAMEE}}|description page there]]''' ([https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/File:{{PAGENAMEE}} secure link])</nowiki>

(or something smarter using <nowiki>{{fullurl}}</nowiki> and/or <nowiki>{{urlencode}} so that the one link that is used points to the unsecure Commons-site for users coming from an unsecure login from Wikipedia, and points to the secure Commons-site for users coming from a secure login from Wikipedia).</nowiki> --[[User:Bensin|Bensin]] ([[User talk:Bensin|talk]]) 21:50, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

:I have been looking for a day to find a method to keep a commons interwiki link on the secure server, but it's just not working. I don't think it's a good idea to provide two links either. It might be confusing to other users. There are scripts that can help you keep on the secure server, automatically translating http:// links to wikimedia servers to https secure links. [[User:Anakin101/alwayssecurewikipedia.js]] for instance does this. —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 10:23, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

::Thanks for the tip! What if we put the link in the bottom right corner and specify that is leads to the secure server? --[[User:Bensin|Bensin]] ([[User talk:Bensin|talk]]) 13:20, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

:This would be a great feature to request at [[mediazilla:|bugzilla]]. Making all interwiki links automatically link to the secure server would be awesome. --- [[User:RockMFR|RockMFR]] 16:42, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

<pre>
{{#ifeq:{{SERVERNAME}}|secure.wikimedia.org
  |[https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/File:{{PAGENAMEE}} description page there]
  |[[Commons:File:{{PAGENAMEE}}|description page there]]
}}
</pre>
Of course you should still file a bug.  — [[User:Dispenser|Dispenser]] 18:18, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

:Done. Good work Dispenser ! BTW the bug for this is [[bugzilla:5440]]. —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 18:57, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

::Thank you! --[[User:Bensin|Bensin]] ([[User talk:Bensin|talk]]) 02:52, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

:::Dispenser: Thanks for the code you showed here. It inspired me to make the template {{tl|sec link auto}} and write [[Wikipedia:Secure server]]. And now I have applied {{tlf|sec link auto}} to the rest of the links in this interface message. I am also applying it to many other places, like the Main Page. See [[Wikipedia talk:Secure server#Sister project links]].
:::--[[User:Davidgothberg|David Göthberg]] ([[User talk:Davidgothberg|talk]]) 02:47, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

:Today [[User:Docu|Docu]] made several experimental edits to this interface message. His final version was using {{tl|sec link image}} in a way it is not intended to and which removed the padlock from the link to the image on Commons. I reverted his edits.
:I have asked him to come here to explain what he tried to achieve. And Docu: Don't do experimental edits on live interface messages, since any mistakes you do are instantly visible to all users. Instead you could have copied the code of this message to any image description page, edited it, and previewed it as much as you wanted.
:--[[User:Davidgothberg|David Göthberg]] ([[User talk:Davidgothberg|talk]]) 20:45, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

::Your version had generated broken links. Please don't do experimental edits to the interface. If you edit the interface, please make sure to test the changes before and after doing them. -- [[Special:Contributions/Docu|<span style="color:#000000;">签名 <sub>sig</sub></span>]] at  20:53, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

:::{{tl|sec link auto}} and {{tl|sec link image}} for the most part internally use the same sub-templates to generate the actual links, so most likely also your version of [[MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here]] would be broken. But I have done extensive testing, as far as I can see {{tlf|sec link auto}} works very well and handles page names with special characters and spaces etc fine. And I have tested [[MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here]] with such image names, it seems to work fine.
:::Docu: Can you describe in what way the links were broken? And can you point to some examples? 
:::--[[User:Davidgothberg|David Göthberg]] ([[User talk:Davidgothberg|talk]]) 21:49, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I second David's opinion. —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 00:10, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

:::David's last edit seems to have fixed the problem with his previous version. It might help if less sub-template calls were used to create the links in this template. -- [[Special:Contributions/Docu|<span style="color:#000000;">签名 <sub>sig</sub></span>]] at  14:21, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I managed to re-create the bug with his previous version on test. It happens with file names including a comma (","). -- [[Special:Contributions/Docu|<span style="color:#000000;">签名 <sub>sig</sub></span>]] at  14:55, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

:::::Ah, thanks for the bug report. I'll investigate that. Strange. And regarding the sub-templates: Right, {{tl|sec link auto}} has several sub-templates. But on each usage it only calls two of them, one to create the link, and one to handle the link text. The reasons I broke out that functionality to sub-templates is that {{tlf|sec link auto}} belongs to a family of templates which includes {{tl|sec link}} and {{tl|sec link image}}. Having those parts in sub-templates means those templates can use the same sub-templates, which means when they add another Wikimedia project we only need to do each edit in one place, not do the same update to all three of {{tlf|sec link}}, {{tlf|sec link auto}} and {{tlf|sec link image}}. And it meant it was easier to properly debug each part.
:::::--[[User:Davidgothberg|David Göthberg]] ([[User talk:Davidgothberg|talk]]) 08:34, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

::::::If you want to experiment, I left them on Test for now. Eventually, I should delete them there though. It took quite a few imports to get all of them ;). -- [[Special:Contributions/Docu|<span style="color:#000000;">签名 <sub>sig</sub></span>]] at  10:42, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Ah. Always seperate <nowiki>[[link]]</nowiki> cases from <nowiki>{{#fullurl}}</nowiki> usecases. The first uses <nowiki>PAGENAME, the second uses PAGENAMEE (extra e for 'encoded').</nowiki> Double encoding is as bad as no encoding. —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 12:26, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

:Docu: You are not very clear. What do you mean by "''I left them on Test''"?
:TheDJ: Right, {{tl|sec link auto}} internally does the "EE" conversion when needed. We should not feed "{{tlc|FULLPAGENAMEE}}" to that template, instead we should feed "{{tlc|FULLPAGENAME}}" without the "EE" part. It was my mistake, I reused parts of the old code in this system message when I added {{tlf|sec link auto}}.
:A simple test here shows the problem that Docu has discovered:
<pre>
1: +{{FULLPAGENAMEE:File:David Göthberg.svg}}+

2: +{{FULLPAGENAMEE:{{FULLPAGENAMEE:File:David Göthberg.svg}} }}+

3: +{{FULLPAGENAMEE:File:David, Gothberg.svg}}+

4: +{{FULLPAGENAMEE:{{FULLPAGENAMEE:File:David, Gothberg.svg}} }}+
</pre>

::1: +{{FULLPAGENAMEE:File:David Göthberg.svg}}+

::2: +{{FULLPAGENAMEE:{{FULLPAGENAMEE:File:David Göthberg.svg}} }}+

::4: +{{FULLPAGENAMEE:File:David, Gothberg.svg}}+

::5: +{{FULLPAGENAMEE:{{FULLPAGENAMEE:File:David, Gothberg.svg}} }}+

:Oddly enough a double "EE" conversion of special characters like "ö" causes an empty string. But it doesn't seem to choke on comma or space. 
:Docu: So I am guessing that the image page you saw that had problems contained some special character in the image name. Could you please tell us what image it was?
:--[[User:Davidgothberg|David Göthberg]] ([[User talk:Davidgothberg|talk]]) 15:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

== Suggested improved wording ==

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Something always niggled me about the use of the same word in quick succession... Suggest changing it to ..


'This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons. Information from its description page there is shown below. '


I.e. change 'The description on' to 'Information from' since it is actually more than the description that is included ... [[user:leevanjackson|Lee&there4;V]] [[User talk:leevanjackson|<span style="color: #a3bfb1">(talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/leevanjackson|<span style="color: #a3bfb1">contribs)</span>]] 23:33, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:Done. I agree on all accounts, as reflected in my edit summary. I thought of changing "shown" to "reproduced" as well but I don't want to mess with it too much.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 00:57, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

== <nowiki>{{FULLPAGENAME}}</nowiki> ==
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hi, please convert "<nowiki>{{FULLPAGENAME}}</nowiki>" to "<nowiki>File:{{PAGENAME}}</nowiki>", may this is not important for enwiki but is important for wikis that have not same namespace for files with commons and want copy from this template. thanks.--[[user:ebraminio|ebraminio]]<sup>[[user talk:ebraminio|talk]]</sup> 21:51, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
:{{done}} &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 16:09, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== MediaWiki:Sharedupload ==

''copied from [[User talk:TheDJ]]:''

Hi,

You are the last one who edited [[MediaWiki:Sharedupload]]. When i see it at [[Special:AllMessages]], it is identical to the source - "This file is from $1 and may be used by other projects.". But when go to the actual page, i see <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here]]</nowiki>. Can you explain this?

Thank you. --[[User:Amire80|Amir E. Aharoni]] ([[User talk:Amire80|talk]]) 20:04, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
:[[MediaWiki:Sharedupload]] is not actually used by the MediaWiki software anymore. Instead [[MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here]] and [[MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-there]] are used instead. I made it a redirect because there were many inbound links towards it from older discussions. —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 21:33, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

== Edit request from LikeLakers2 ==

{{tl|editprotected|answered=no}}

I see no reason to need the padlock.

{{hide|Code without padlock|
2=<pre>{{fmbox
| type  = system
| id    = mw-sharedupload
| image = [[File:Commons-logo.svg|40x40px|Wikimedia Commons logo|alt=]]
| textstyle = font-size: 90%; text-align: center;
| text  = <div>
<big>This is a file from the {{sec link auto|commons|Main Page|Wikimedia Commons}}. Information from its '''{{sec link auto|commons|File:{{PAGENAME}}|description page there}}''' is shown below.</big> <br /> Commons is a freely licensed media file repository. {{sec link auto|commons|Commons:Welcome|You can help}}.
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}}{{file other|1=<div class="metadata topicon" id="commons-icon" style="display:none; right:30px;">[[File:Commons-logo.svg|14px|link={{sec link image|commons|File:{{PAGENAME}} }}|This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons]]</div>
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[[User:LikeLakers2|LikeLakers2]] ([[User talk:LikeLakers2|talk]] &#124; [[User:LikeLakers2/guestbook|Sign my guestbook!]])  21:20, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
:Done. It's funny I never noticed those were there despite seeing this displayed on image pages thousands of times and having edited this page in the past.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 21:34, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
::Actually, caused by a rewrite of {{tl|sec link auto}}. We are going through an https:// setup change, so expect to see more of these 'weird' things the coming days that need to be sorted out. We used a lot of hacks in the past to workaround much of these issues. Those hacks will need to be adapted or removed altogether. And at which specific points might take a few days to figure out. —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 22:18, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

== Unlinking of Commons-logo.svg ==

What do you think about unlinking the [[:File:Commons-logo.svg|Commons logo]] or making the link point to the file on Commons like [[:pt:MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here]]? I can imagine that a great deal of the [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/File:Commons-logo.svg ~1600 daily clicks] the logo gets are from people looking for the Commons file, not the 1,024×1,376 version of the logo. [[User:Jonkerz|jonkerz]][[User talk:Jonkerz|♠]] 15:52, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
{{FPER|ans=yes}}
:No answers since November; edit request added.
:Can someone please add <code><nowiki>|link=File:{{PAGENAME}}</nowiki></code> to the image in the |image parameter. This will link the Commons logo to the file on Commons. Or, add <code>|link=</code> to disable the link (this is how it is done on {{tlx|Commonscat}}). Not linking the Commons logo should not be a copyright/attribution issue, since it's not CC-licenced and The Foundation owns the copyright. [[User:Jonkerz|jonkerz]] [[User talk:Jonkerz|♠talk]] 13:04, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
:Hi, could you please clarify it? Looking on the version on pt.wikipedia rather appears it's broken there and not here. Did you mean to fix the version on pt wiki? [[User:Petrb|Petrb]] ([[User talk:Petrb|talk]]) 13:27, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
::Ah, hi again :)
::I'm referring to the English version, [[MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here]]. pt is only used as an example.
::The link does only not work on [[pt:MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here]] when you are viewing the interface page directly, because it needs parameters that only are available when the interface is transcluded. Take a look at any image, such as [[pt:Ficheiro:Kiwi_(Actinidia_chinensis)_1_Luc_Viatour.jpg]], to see it in action. On the pt version, the Commons logo is linking the file on Commons. Compare it to our local version, [[:File:Kiwi_(Actinidia_chinensis)_1_Luc_Viatour.jpg]], here the logo is linking a larger version of the logo itself. [[User:Jonkerz|jonkerz]] [[User talk:Jonkerz|♠talk]] 13:43, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Yes I understand it now. Please start a request for comment / try to get a consensus so that we can get a feedback from community to see if this change is required or not, I don't really think this is a bug or something what needs to be urgently fixed. Thank you [[User:Petrb|Petrb]] ([[User talk:Petrb|talk]]) 14:02, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
*[[Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here]]. [[User:XXN|XXN]], 10:30, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

== Italian version ==
Could you please edit the Italian version of Sharedupload-desc-here with this box?
{| align=center width="100%" border=0 cellpadding=3 cellspacing=3 style="border: solid #aaa 1px; background: #f9f9f9; font-size: 95%; margin: .2em auto .2em auto;"
| [[File:Commons-logo.svg|30px|Wikimedia Commons Logo]]
|align=center |Questo file proviene da [[Commons:Main Page|Wikimedia Commons]] e può essere utilizzato da altri progetti. Di seguito viene mostrata la descrizione presente nella '''[[Commons:File:{{PAGENAME}}|pagina di descrizione del file]]'''. 
|}

Thanks in advance.--[[User:Carnby|Carnby]] ([[User talk:Carnby|talk]]) 14:34, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:Surely this should be requested at [[:it:Discussioni MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here]]? Admins on English Wikipedia don't necessarily have admin rights on Italian Wikipedia. I'm certain that I haven't got them. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 15:59, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
::When I browse an image on English Wikipedia with Italian language interface there's a unpleasant text, when I browse the same page on Italian Wikipedia or English Wikipedia with English language interface there's a nice infobox. Check [http://web.tiscali.it/linnets/Sharedupload-desc-here.jpg here] --[[User:Carnby|Carnby]] ([[User talk:Carnby|talk]]) 15:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:::Where did the Italian text come from? It doesn't read well. What's wrong with "Questo file e la sua pagina di descrizione si trovano su Wikimedia Commons"? [[User:Justlettersandnumbers|Justlettersandnumbers]] ([[User talk:Justlettersandnumbers|talk]]) 01:24, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
::::If you switch to Italian language interface in English language Wikipedia (en.wiki) you'll get [[MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here/it|an ugly line of text]], whereas the [[MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here/en|English]], [[MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here/nl|Dutch]], [[MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here/de|German]], [[MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here/no|Norwegian]] interfaces of en.wiki (see above) have all a nice box. I would like to get a nice info box also for Italian language (in en.wiki, '''not''' in it.wiki where it's OK).--[[User:Carnby|Carnby]] ([[User talk:Carnby|talk]]) 12:47, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

==When logged in I see a different (inferior) version of this==
I see a line of text only that appears like this:

This file is from Wikimedia Commons and may be used by other projects. The description on its [http://www.correctimageaddressoncommons file description page] there is shown below.

There's no pretty box around it, and the link is not a cross-wiki link, so it opens a new window every time.  Annoying.  Can anyone figure out where this is from? --[[User:99of9|99of9]] ([[User talk:99of9|talk]]) 04:37, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
:Your language is probably set to en-gb or en-ca instead of en. [[User:Legoktm|Legoktm]] ([[User talk:Legoktm|talk]]) 04:18, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
<!-- DUPLICATE QUESTION == Another try ==
Could you please edit the Italian version of Sharedupload-desc-here with this box?
{| align=center width="100%" border=0 cellpadding=3 cellspacing=3 style="border: solid #aaa 1px; background: #f9f9f9; font-size: 95%; margin: .2em auto .2em auto;"
| [[File:Commons-logo.svg|30px|Wikimedia Commons Logo]]
|align=center |Questo file proviene da [[Commons:Main Page|Wikimedia Commons]] e può essere utilizzato da altri progetti. Di seguito viene mostrata la descrizione presente nella '''[[Commons:File:{{PAGENAME}}|pagina di descrizione del file]]'''. 
|}
[[MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here/it|This]] is the page I am referring to. I checked also [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here/en this page] and [https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here/en this one], but they don't seem to contain any box.--[[User:Carnby|Carnby]] ([[User talk:Carnby|talk]]) 21:59, 1 January 2014 (UTC)-->

== Marking the Commons icon as metadata ==

{{FPER|answered=yes}}
The Commons icon is picked up by Media Viewer as a second image on the page . It should have a <code>metadata</code> or <code>noviewer</code> class. (Ideally, it should be unlinked / linked to Commons [[#Unlinking of Commons-logo.svg|as proposed above]], but the logo appearing in the Media Viewer image sequence ''is'' a bug so we should fix it by other means if there is no consensus for unlinking.) --[[User:Tgr (WMF)|Tgr (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Tgr (WMF)|talk]]) 00:34, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:EP --> I gave it the <code>noviewer</code> class. — '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr.&nbsp;Stradivarius</span>]]''''' <sup>[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♪&nbsp;talk&nbsp;♪]]</sup> 02:06, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

== Protected edit request on 4 May 2021 ==

{{edit fully-protected|MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here|answered=yes}}
Add alt text to the indicator (and maybe add something like this to the tooltip). Something like this:

"This file is hosted on the Wikimedia Commons. Click here to go to the file page at the Wikimedia Commons." [[User:Remagoxer|Remagoxer]] ([[User talk:Remagoxer|talk]]) 18:21, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
:{{not done}} not needed, basically this same message is already right in the banner, with the link.  Alt text is supposed to describe an indicator, and this is only decorative. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 00:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)